We Were SO Wrong About Darkspawn…
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
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In this video, we're going to talk about the dark side of the Dragon Age series. We were SO wrong about darkspawn, the Blight, the Black city, and the Archdemons.
After watching this video, you'll have a better understanding of the origins of the darkspawn, the blight, and the possibility of a cure.
0:00 Birth of a New Darkspawn
0:45 A Curse of Rebirth
3:14 Intelligent Darkspawn
6:02 The Archdemons
10:01 The Cure
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Alright Thedosians!
This will probably be my *last* Dragon Age video for a while. 😭
Personally I feel like there are many active communities for games that deserve my effort.
Of course, you can check out my other socials, I talk about BioWare on Twitter alot LOL
But thank you all for sticking around in these series, I had a bunch of fun!
So what's next for you then?
Are you still going to be on patreon you should never limit yourself as far as content what ever you decide to do next ill be here and still following you
Could also come back when more DA stuff comes around. Go for it. Hold onto that spark of passion it don't matter if the content of that passion changes just that the passion is preserved and flourishes. It brings wondrous things to the community and the world and the self. All very important for life.
Smart choice. Everything about Dragon Age (the story, art direction, gameplay and music) has been going downhill ever since DAO. Is it so much to ask for a dark fantasy party-based CRPG with more than 4 dialogue options these days?
If you are looking for another franchise to cover, I suggest Baldur's Gate, Bioware's original inspiration behind DA. It would be halirious if BG3 sells better Dreadwolf assuming it even releases this year.
The world of gaming is as vast as the stars in the sky content creators with many challenges and often don't get the recognition or pay they deserve adaptation is one of those challenges i know your good at what you do thats why i became a patron covering different content is not a bad thing as long as your passion remains in tact
I've always thought the darkspawn were the most interesting antagonist especially after meeting the architect.
For real. Please may we have the Architect in DAD. 🙏
They are very interesting, but they are more of a force of nature and a plot device than an antagonist, that is excluding specific darkspawn like the architect who can have actual motivations and thought process.
@@unavezms8167 armies are not usually considered the antagonist of the story either. The darkspawn are to the Archdemons as the orcs are to Sauron and Saruman.
The old gods were infinitely better than the nonsense we got in 2 and 3.
@@unavezms8167 I mean I kind of killed him
@@Not-an-Alien There was option to ally with him. And I am pretty sure he can come back in DAD very annoyed regardless of whether he was killed or not. I mean kinda like Legion in ME3.
Don't forget the grey warden mage in the wardens keep dlc. He is able to survive the entire time through the use of blood magic plus hold off the calling and that the demons are stumped by the blight.
ahh i edited that out, thank you for bringing that up!
That's an understatement. He not only delayed the calling way beyond known maximum limit (30 years) but he also extended his lifespan way beyond of normal human. He lived over 200 years. Utilizing taint seems to be superior to curing it, at least when in comes to lifespan. Mind you this is what already was achieved by a grey warden mage (one you can allow to conduct further experiments concerning unlocking potential that taint has). In Dragon age 2 in chapter 1 there is even a message from him that he made some breakthroughs (albeit how much depends on whether you allowed him to conduct experiments without restrictions or imposed ethical restrictions on him).
Blood magic canon mvp best warden choice canon :P
Blood magic is a corrupting force. If you use it you are evil.
@@nagatouzumaki3492I don't think maximum limit is 30 years, Loghain in Inquisition is 60 y.o and he's fine
Just a note - The Mother was not a "born" sentient Darkspawn, but a failed experiment of the Architect, as the reception/return of sentient intelligence drove her insane. Most, if not all, of the intelligent darkspawn we find in Awakening were not inherently intelligent, but rather the subjects of the Architect. As a general rule, it would seem that no Broodmother, Hurlock, ect can be "born" with intelligence without some kind of outside intervention.
Yup. The Mother and darkspawn aligned with her were pretty much pissed off at Architect for making them able to think. They missed being mindless drones for the blight.
I’m even in dao darkspawn were often hinted at having some level of unexpected intelligence, considering the tools and armor they made and the crude shrines they often put up in areas they conquered (I’m thinking of when you go back to ostagar), so even from the very start it felt like there was something more to them, and every time we learn something new I just want more lol
They also seem to understand morale. They didn't tear apart and eat King Cailan as you'd expect. Instead they stripped him and hung him up by impaling him to their equivalent of a cross. Any survivors seeing that and spreading the story would have a pretty negative effect on morale throughout fereldan.
Ever since Dragon Age: Origins, I was wondering if the Grey Wardens should be considered a type of Darkspawn.
I mean, no, humans infected with the blight are not considered Darkspawn
Could be like a Typhoid Mary
No only broodmother can make Darkspawn, Grey Wardens are closer to tainted ones but with a lot more control over their affliction.
@@manolitolaleman5816 I don't see how Grey Wardens have control over the taint, when they are known to die young or give in to the Calling. It's also known that the Joining already kills many recruits. I believe that there's a lot more to the Blight/taint and my biggest three questions is How is it the the Maker left the the effects of the Golden City to remain the Black City. Who is the Maker? Is the Maker connected to the Elvish gods?
@@KedemothThePaladin my money is on Solas as the Maker. In a sense they do control their taint. People who aren´t strong enough die instantly. You need to have a certain strenght or you know plot armor to be able to survive over 30 years without becoming like Ruck or Tamlen.
The Black City in the Fade is the prison of the Evanuris, who used their respective dragons to reach out to the magisters to breach their prison. All I’ve said so far is a theory I have and if I’m correct, once the magisters breached the (supposedly) golden city, (which I believe was once golden, but became black) they were either cursed by the Evanuris intentionally or they were affected by some negative aspect of their prison.
Very interesting!
We know for a fact that when ya'boy said he breached the Golden city, that it was already black and covered in "filth", so something happened. So you're correct there.
Maybe he reached out to the magisters in the same way Corypheus can reach out to the Wardens...
I like the distinction between the old gods and the Evanuris - they're likely connected but i think there are decent evidence that they're not exactly the same thing. We know also that all the old gods dying would be VERY bad ( Drakon's prophecy and the Darkspawn being fully unleashed)
Evanuris being in the Black city makes a bit of sense ( dead whispers). Tho, i wonder why there, why the distinction between the Black city and the Eternal city, why is it called the abyss? Why is it the source of the taint even tho we know it also predates the first blight.
Why did the old god stop communicating as soon as the city was breached? (like Hakkon) Something must have happened at that specific time. The magisters actually got stronger from it too (they command the blight like an old god would)
The Evanuris were willing to destroy the world. The blight looks to be definately related to that. Since the forbidden and the forgotten ones are apparently related - the later one being returning - since we also know a lot more about how spirits works - its likely that the old gods are a type of spirits/god merged and then split from the Evanuris (like Mythal/Flemeth) I believe that its a version of what the Avaar could do.
I also believe that the city was golden before. Dreamers existed before and the magisters wouldnt believe something they can easily verify at any time in the fade.
There are still many missing link.
@@waralliedEvanuris probably are the old gods mythal and others are probably the old gods of legend. They are anti titans too
That's actually Interesting and would make much sense.
Corypheus said the city was already black and the dwarves said the darkspawn didn't fall from heaven, they were already deep within the earth.
I think it all has to do with titan blood.....
After my last playthrough I def see it very posible that Darkspawn are a defense mechanism of the Titans, maybe the blighted one.
Or it's the rotten leriem of the dead titans because the blue leriem does do stuff the the dwarfs or the titans only let it affect dwarfs
I mean the Blight infected one of the Evanuris so pretty much it has been around long before the Magisters even infiltrated the supposed Golden City
I agree but that doesn't explain what the honoured ones even are.
I think it has something to do with the false Gods of the elves when solas imprisoned them I believe that's how the dark spawn came about created from the false gods
I really hope we see more darkspawn, and the architect again too. They are my favorite enemies because there’s still a lot of mystery about them and they are terrifying and horrifying
Agreed especially after 3 I’m really excited to see what they do with the darkspawn in 4
I just hope they retcon the Brood Mother out of dragon age.
That... creature, is HORRIBLE
@@dylanmonstrum1538 they really put a lot of effort into making sure ALL her tig ol bitties jiggled
it would depend on if you killed him or not and if they use the keep to keep track of your choices like they have been
If only they bring back the Origins design for the darkspawn. Cause the ones from 2 and inquisition weren’t as terrifying if you ask me.
Darkspawn are the forgotten Reapers of the Dragon Age series who were pushed aside for BioWare's ever expanding exotic NPC romance option buffet & old characters with too many tumblr likes who won't exit the franchise.
"Now we're left with a silent disease. A disease...of the taint"
I think Dragons blood could have something to do with the cure. It would actually make sense for the Darkspawn to go out their way to taint as many dragons they can to make sure the cure is non existent and why not start with those that are imprisoned in the Deep Roads. I feel like I remember them saying Archdemon blood is needed for the joining at some point too and that could expand on that. Maybe some have joined without it but when they do receive it they may or may not give them more time and/or more resistance.
This makes me realise that from DA2, I really hate how they changed the design of the darkspawns.
And it feels like Bioware doesn't want to feature broodmothers anymore.
Bad retcon, they act like the genlock necromancer and forgemaster never existed.
I'm going to forever be pissed off about it. Darkspawn used to be so threatening looking. the details about their armor and colors were something that wasn't well replicated for the other games. Now they all look the same. Genlocks look like godamn monkeys and hurlocks are an actual joke. I mean, how can you not laugh when you see the way the walk towards you with their round helmets and stupid spiky armor. Their animations are also goofy af, so it's impossible to think these guys were the bane of Thedas during the blight.
@@Ganom-ng1zt Yep, I remember the first time I came across the Ancient Hurlock in the deep roads, he was as strong if not stronger comparitively to my party level (I did the Orzammar quest chain last) than any other main quest line boss. Darkspawn were alien and terrifying in dao, in 2 and dai they were like the locust in gears of war, generic edgy monsters. The only saving grace in dai were hidden lovecraftian statues that seemed to have more to do with the taint during Elvhenan than the darkspawn horde. I'm hoping to see a good lovecraftian payoff in da4 like we saw in thw concept art of the archdemons for dao but with nearly all the veteran BW staff gone who knows how it will turn out.
@@greenfrogbad Some of the art design for the lyrium-tainted darkspawn was decent, I think. I hope we see more about them.
I'm fine with the exclusion of broodmothers, they just seemed edgy without a real purpose.
The same blood mage that saved a few gryphons is also the one who killed them as i remember she used blood magic to alter the creatures to make them more aggressive not knowing the alterations could be transmitted to other gryphons. The animals became uncontrollable so the grey wardens started exterminating them but that same blood mage heard about what was going on and even though she was mostly insane at that point she managed to purify the eggs and place them in a magic induced suspended animation and hid them somewhere i think in orlais. I dont remember which book it was the one with cole they find the eggs.
@@chuckles9767 Yep your right the extended info you find on it from the last flight and also a few codexes from DAI tell the whole story she used her blood magic to make her Griffon Ignore the taint this caused the slow spread and ensured any offspring of it would already have the taint
@@chuckles9767 her gryphon contracting the blight sounds vaguely familiar. However i will dissagree with you the eggs were contaminated and she purified them if you want to argue with me on that ill break the book out.
@@chuckles9767 yes but they were the eggs taken by that warden and as they had shown proof of no longer having the blight they are also what the hero warden commander has gone looking for it is in that book in the witch hunt dlc thats the info she says your char needs to see and she will also tell the warden if your her lover and follow her it is mentioned by her after she sees the feather but the chance of it triggering are so low most miss it you also need to find all the note on them in the wastes and it mentioned that other wardens over the yrs have gone looking for them to see how they were cured and also find out if the cure can be used by the wardens but in a way that wont make them unable to keep their oath which is the one thing they are afraid of happening
I'm so glad you explained what happened to the griffins! It's been a big question I have had since becoming a DA fan and slowly learning the lore. It would be so awesome if we actually saw them/be able to ride them in a DA game at some point (if they can come up with a storyline on how they were able to make a return that is..)
If you enjoy reading, there is a book by Liane Merciel call "Dragon Age: Last Flight". It is one of the books in the Bioware book series, and it goes into more details of griffins' past and possible future.
The darkspawn is my favorite piece of lore in Dragon Age! Thank you for this video ❤
I think there's more Darkspawn out there that are advanced in their intelligence, I even think that we'll see not just Solas trying to tear down the Veil but another Blight as a result, maybe Solas is directly or indirectly responsible for this new Blight by infecting an Old God with the Idol
Awesome job Saria. The amount of information that you dig up is nothing short of amazing. I would love to watch you do a play-through of DAO 😊
I'm still thinking the Blight is somehow the Evanuris' revenge/salted Earth contingency if not a way for them to free themselves/be reborn, mainly because of Solas' disdain for the Grey Wardens' using the Blight in their Joining and thinking they can control it. Seemed weird he'd feel that way about a process that used to stop Arch-Demons unless he knows something about the Blight no one else does, right?
I bet it's all to do with mythal killing a titan. The dead titans blood congealed, creating red lyrum, the taint, and Darkspawn and blackening the Golden City.
@@stevenhiggins3055 That could work, too.
@Steven Higgins that would make sense because Morrigan even states that Flemeth has a connection to the blight that no one would have seen. Unfortunately, she leaves it at that because she isn't entirely sure exactly how she is related.
Personally i think the dark spawn isn’t a type of disease but a type of magical curse. If the taint effecting the dark spawn was a disease it wouldn’t make sense for it to taint inanimate objects like the Eluvians.
Also I wonder if the taint is a curse created by the Old elven gods to assault the world and destroy the dragons sealed away in the deep roads whom I believe are the seals holding the old elven gods sealed away in the dreaming city. But with the rise of red lyrium and it being able to effect regular people I assume it can effect the dark spawn also. Imagine it, dark spawn bolstered by red lyrium being capable of even more screwed up things then they are now.
But One thing that still perplexes me is that we’ve seen dark spawn of all types, former humans, dwarves and elves including qunari but the one thing that hasn’t been shown yet is a darkspawn Qunari, the Ogre, capable of using magic. We’ve seen dwarven darkspawn that can use magic while regular dwarves (that we know of) can’t wield magic. And from the Trespasser dlc for inquisition we know that Qunari mages are capable of some really powerful magic so it’s strange we haven’t seen any Qunari darkspawn who can wield magic.
My guess is how the Darkspawn taint mutates people is different depending on the race. And they probably don't want to have too many magical users because we don't know what happens when a Darkspawn gets possessed by a demon. So its likely the taint tries to bar them from the fade enough to not dream but keeps the connection so that they can still use magic. It makes sense because normally mages when they dream enter the fade but Warden Mages only really dream of the Archdemon so the call must suppress the influence from the fade. Thus Perhaps why no Ogres can hear the Fade is because Quinari are more sensitive to it and probably require more suppression which cuts them off completely. But this is just a theory.
My dragon age conspiracy is the blight was created by the Evanirus after they were trapped by Solas in a bloodthirsty revenge plot, which we now know sounds pretty typical of them. The magisters that found them in their prison, the Golden/Black city, were patient zeroed and weaponized by the Evanirus in a play to reclaim their godhood on Thedas. The archdemons are extremely powerful high dragons that date to ancient Arlathan and were used by the Evanirus as avatars that were pacified and hidden away by Mythal to limit the Evanirus during the rebellion. When an archdemon is found it's possessed by one of the Evanirus so they more directly act on Thedas despite being stuck in the Fade. Excluding Fen'harel and Mythalv there's 7 archdemons and 7 Evanirus.
An add on theory is the Archdemons were originally dragon guardians (like at the shrine in Inquisition) gifted to the Evanirus by Mythal, but they're assholes and used them as war machines. She puts them in the Deep Roads, Evanirus knows about them and finds one, starts the official blight and here we are.
The blight is just a defense mechanism of the Titan's bodies. Something like our white blood cells, created to defend themselves against ancient elves.
Let's see the facts:
Lyrium is the Titan's blood, constantly "attacked" by ancient elves (the virus). Therefore the Titan creates red lyrium, which contains the Blight (defense mechanism).
We know this from Bianca, only she thinks it's normal lyrium corrupted, instead of it being the corruptor.
This is supported by a piece of info from Trespasser, where it says that the ancient elves collapsed their mines in horror of what was in there (probably the first corrupted elves/darkspawn)
So, Corypheus didn't enter the golden city, he entered the ruins of Arlathan in the Fade, and got infected by either red lyrium or other source of the Blight that was concealed in Arlathan, and brought it back.
Great Video and it's good to see your channel growing with each posting. Your videos are well-written and beautifully delivered.
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I had no idea that Fiona was the mother of Alistair! 😮
Why, I keep wondering, does a Warden even have to die in order to kill the Archdemon? We have Morrigan--Flemeth's daughter and we now know who Flemeth actually is--sleep with a Grey Warden i.e. someone with the taint. This somehow allows his father to survive dealing the killing blow. Similarly, Fiona is cured of the taint when she is pregnant by Maric. Then there's the griffins...
I feel like the answer is right in front of us but it's just too hard to grasp. Maybe if I went back and played the whole series again, but I'm all about BG3 right now so that will have to wait.
You've been killing it with the lore videos lately 👏 👏
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Hang on, I'm going to shoot spitballs at this Archdemon while it poses for the camera!
If the series Dragon Age Absolution is cannon and not a standalone story/alternative world in Thedas, Fiona will be alive. We saw the red templars in Absolution
aren't high dragons also resistant to the blight because they grow blighted tumours that then are cut off from blood flow and such that means they don't really get blighted
so how do the old gods become tainted just slowly or overwhelmed with so much they can't resist or much like Cor's dragon do they chose it?
I feel bad for that last Darkspawn leader who will die hearing the main mans phrase that stikes awe and inspiration to his allies but dread and humiliation to his enemies "Enchantment?"
ENCHANTMENT!!! *KA ME HA ME HA's old god in the face*
Just wanted to point out that the whole Theirin bloodline being a cure is illogical because Alistair underwent and survived the joining and still has the taint in him
oh absolutely, just adding it in there since a lot of fans believe Fiona was cured from that
Maybe, but I think it's more to do with the dragon's blood, rather than the Theirin bloodline specifically, although it's entirely possible that it only works as a cure for an already afflicted person rather than preventing someone from being tainted.
It'd explain why Fiona was cured but Alistair was still able to go through the joining.
@@matthewhart9610 that would be the difference between vaccination and cure, what would be preferred is something that can do both, but often we only have a vaccination, protection against, or a cure, removal of the threat.
your lore videos are good, keep going! really enjoy them
Perfect timing for me as I'm planning a dragon age campaign atm!
What ever content you decide to make i look forward to it and hope you put it on RUclips
What if the original dark spawn horde are those who were sacrificed in order to get into the city, and after the first blight wardens who die are rebirthed into darkspawn themselves?
I wish Dragon Age games had continued to be as awesome as DA: Origins. DA2 decided to focus on one city while sidelining Darkspawn and Daemon lore (which were the coolest lore in DA:O in my opinion), and DA:I tried too hard to be an mock-open-world game with countless hours of uninteresting quests and "things to do" instead of focusing as much on narrative and lore. Anyway, great lore video. =)
As much as I enjoyed DAI, I completely agree. That's why ANYTHING to do with that lore in DAI was so enthralling, because it was so damn sparse.
@@dylanmonstrum1538 Yeah, at first I got excited because I was like "Ooo, there are new types of Daemons in this one?!" and was psyched for more lore to expand upon the setting, but instead, it seemed like there was less lore getting dropped than in the other two games, despite them being on a smaller world scale. =(
I always thought the story about the dwarf seeing intelligent dark spawn dressed like kings were three of the other managers from the chant of light. It makes the most sense based on the other info we have on the dark spawn. The one thing I’m hoping is explained more is the urn of sacred ashes. Cause according to Corypheus the black city was empty and from what we learned from Solas is that the fade was created by him when he split reality in two. So does that mean the maker is fake and if he is then where do the ashes and there guardian get there power from
Given that the Darkspawn have taken the backseat as an antagonist after the first game (understandably so as the Blight is their big show) I wonder if after dealing with whoever in Dreadwolf (and those following this channel know it's gonna be elven gods related, if not the gods themselves) the Evanuris are gonna come out and say "The Darkspawn has grown how big?! F*CK, why are you going after me, go destroy them!!!" or something to that effect.
I was thinking something like that too! Or maybe Solas tries to tear down the veil but something happens and everything goes to sh*t, the elven gods are released, cue in massive fight and mayhem but, at the same time, the archdemon is awoken and a new blight begins (or maybe the two remaing at once) so everyone will have to join forces to fight the blight (or blights), etc. Maybe our character becomes a grey warden to be able to kill said archdemon (and in that way it ties back to how we began our journey back on origins, we end the same way as we started, if you want to get poetic lol).
@@maruvalls9493 Or maybe, rather than the new protagonist, the Hero of Ferelden (if they survived Origins) makes a comeback!
@@leonardobattistel4595 omg yes!!! that would be awesome!
@@leonardobattistel4595 That won't happen. Devs already stated many times that the story of HoF concluded and that he will never come back. No matter if he is alive or not.
Besides, think about it. It would be such a fucking hassle just to make changes around him being alive or not and having him the MC, instead of a new fledged protagonist like we had in all the other DA games up until now. They would literally need to make 2 games, from scratch, from start to end just to feature a world where HoF is dead and a world where he is alive. It's just not worth it.
It's extra work that the devs shouldn't be put through. And 90% of the community wouldn't care for a return of HoF anyway. So why would they want to focus on HoF?
@@benjyyx you misunderstood me, I never meant having the HoF as the player character, but as a sort of "guest character", like Hawke was in DA:I
And yes, it would totally be fanservice, and it wouldn't even be easy to put into the game (this one or others) and while I will never expect it to happen, I do wish for it to happen.
If I'm allowed to exaggerate, I would be overjoyed to see at one point (seeing as this is the 4th game and the standard party in DA is of four members) all the MCs line-up to face whatever the threat is. Again this is fanservice, and not realistically feasible to put into the game, but maaaaan it would be awesome.
A new saria video, you love to see it
There is a flower that is immune to the blight in the Silent Plains, near Solas (town) between Minrathous and Arlathan. Just as the Wilds Flower is required to cure Mabari in Origins.
Andruil's legend sounds an awful lot like the Elves caused the blight and red lyrium. Which makes since, as they warred with the Titans and Dwarves.
Crazy idea.
A female mage made a deal with a pride demon to "father" a child with her. (She gave the demon a body to posses.) She was infected with the blight or was a grey warden and her chulild would cary the blight like the ritual in DA Origins.
This kid should be a dreamer and intertwined with the blight akin to Coriphious and Arkitect. Also have him/her drink dragon blood and learn blood magic.
Would this kid be on same level of power as Old gods or Maker?
I just started to get into dragon age and these are by far my favorite videos too watch for lore
My personal theory is the black city was always a prison, designed to hold the source of the blight there. That the magisters broke it open, infecting themselves and others because they didn't understand that what they were looking at wasn't "the holy golden city" of the maker, but a prison full of a contagious entity/spirit/disease. Sorta like pandora's box.
And that while the arch demons are dragons in their slumbering forms, that they're actually the great old gods, or the Elves who became gods. Because if you look through some of the more obscure lore, there's a mountain the cantry guard that has nothing to do with anything else, shooting down specifically any dragon that goes towards it. Because there's a scrap of lore that indicates that any "dragon" who makes it to the mountain's peak and does a ritual becomes a god. I think this is where the elves who could take dragon form, went and obtained their "god hood" and the chantry, while selling one side of a lie to the people, are actively trying to stop any new gods from being created that could either topple their power structure or who could be corrupted by the taint and become new arch demons.
Mm. The warden can drink dragons blood and still had to search for a cure for the calling. More inclined to think the amulet did something
I have to point out that the warden can possibly drink HIGH dragon blood, not GREAT dragon blood like the one flowing inside the Theirins
Thanks for the video!
You have brought Sin to Heaven And doom upon all the world.
the concept of the Architect, the Mother also the horror of darkspawn were kinda abandoned and overlooked in DA:I. I don't remember I felt the same fear I felt in previous games...the hopelesness of Blight was so real in previous games. Don't get me wrong I think DA:I was the best of the franchise; however, it feels more like a heroic fantasy journey
In a lot of regards the first game was much more grim than the other two. The tone difference between DAO and DAI is abismal, even if in both the protagonist is a typical bioware savior of all. Darkspawn were basically like the plague, but ten times worse and unknown, primal and cruel.
@@hojosconsal9913 agreed, i think compared to hero of ferelden or hawke, inquisitor has the best life, almost no family drama, no companion deaths etc
I played Inquisition first, and I was still terrified of the darkspawn. Whenever I first went up against them I'd make sure my party was all ranged fighters and Blackwall. The threat level is less than previous games, but definitely non-zero!
Well because Dragon Age is not Warhammer 40k. Its supposed to be a combination of Tolkien's and George RR Martin's worlds combining high fantasy with low fantasy. In this respect its a world that always combines two extremes. It doesn't help the Darkspawn are a constant force of despair and edginess if there is no genuine hope and faith you can beat them, its why light hearted characters like Alastair are perfect for this type of series but everyone apparently hated him being that and wanted to harden him. So I think taking a step back from the horror and despair really helped people get invested more in the world, ofc I want the next game's tone to be more ala Witcher where yeah its dark and grim in some aspects but also jovial and hopeful in others.
i agree with you, but sometimes it was too light, yet the inquisition and DLC stuff was a good combo of this.
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I think in DA dreadwolf we will finally understand the crimes of Elven gods and the true origin of blight...
This is wonderful. Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it! :))
Romancable darkspawn companion when?
I sincerely hope we will discover the real source of the blight in DA:4, I’ve always been fascinated by these undead things
How do you get those cinematic camera angles in-game? Is that a mod?
Awesome video by the way! It's nice to see people still covering Dragon Age. It's one of my favorite RPG franchises of all time.
Ok so after hearing the dwarven story about intelligent darkspawn arguing, we know at least one of the Magisters was killed and eaten by another. Whether they stayed dead would be interesting to learn.
All of this is good to think on. My one question is did the Hero of Fereldon find a cure. It what the went out for, and if you do it right they come back, but what did they find, and is it a cure, or is it something else?
Maybe the darkspawn are searching for the old gods in a vain hope that their blood will cure them... but they end up corrupting it instead.
I just wish we were right about something for once. 😔
L Tevinter 😂
Hey guys! Question for anyone: Why do people think that the darkspawn aren't intelligent? Regardless of rank, they appear able to comprehend and use military tactics and traps. They often position themselves so that they can ambush their adversaries and utilise space to maximise the effectiveness of their abilities.
It's been stated that they recieve telepathic orders from the Archdaemon. They're not the ones coming up with the tactics. They're basically a hive mind and the arch demon is the queen.
That's why it's believed that they're not intelligent. Because without an Archdaemon or someone like Corypheus or the Architect calling the shots, they default to the instinctive drive to seek out the Old Gods.
@@stevenhiggins3055 Thanks for the reply! That does make sense and it works with what you learn in-game, but that would require an incredible level of micro-management that I doubt the Archdemon would do.
I guess the Archdemon could have shared that knowledge with them telepathically so they have the know-how to set traps and ambushes but don't need that oversight. I always imagined that their every action wasn't controlled or influenced by the Archdemon, rather, it gave them a larger order and they just did it as best as they could: sort of like how a computer program works.
@@wanglord9591 how the archdemon leads was shown in darkspawn chronicles dlc actually. Urthemiel was speaking into Vanguard's mind to be careful about dangerous ones like Sten and Alistair, and showing what was ahead in denerim.
@@HeySareth Ah, I haven't played that DLC. I'll check it out though, thanks!
The more I hear of this Archdemon, the less it sounds like a god and the more it sounds like me playing Civ. Relatable villains, eh?
@@wanglord9591 indeed.
those enemies in the trespasser dlc that are like darkspawn are major hint i think
i think the first to breach the heavens and turn/destroy the black city were the elfs, and they did it by using a titan
we don't know much about red lyrium, but all things hint at it being really old, older than the veil itself
the darkspawn are probably a corruption of the immune system of the titans, one that probably has ran wild like a cancer
So what we "Were SO Wrong Abaut Darkspawn" is that we cannot control the blight?
I still maintain my opinion that "Golden City" was just a seat of power for Evanuris(so-called elven gods) and after Fen'Harel locked them away, they prepared some kind of "trap" so that anyone who manages to enter that city(those "gods" could've suspected that some of their people will eventualy come looking for them) will trigger it.
My theory is, that their plan was to make elves so desperate that they would rather take life in slavery than death(though that was the "beauty" of said plan, because Blight do not always kill immediately after contraction). Now, IMO, they hoped that if they exert enough pressure over their brethren, some of them will manage to rip the veil and allow them to come back.
But, just like Solas, they did not account for the fact that elves lost 90% of their powers and their lifespans, so even if they truly wanted to rip open veil, they simply could not(and that is not accounting for the fact that after the creation of the veil, the resulting disaster wiped much of the ancient elvhen knowledge).
Now, the connection between Old Gods and Evanuris is quite simple. We saw that Mythal could control dragon, the one that Inquisitor can tame if he/she drink from the Well. So my theory is, that the reason why Darkspawn instinctively are searching for "Old Gods" is simply because they are sensing similiar power to what they are. In a sense, i would say that Old Gods were amongst the most powerful pets ancient elven "gods" had at their disposal and they were linked to them like Corypheus was to his pet dragon. But when the Veil was created and that connection was cut, they fell to slumber(just like Solas did after he created veil and expended most of his power).
The only problem with this theory is that how exactly did those dragons got into the deep roads. But since we know about Titans from descent, and we know that Titans were also at some point at war with elves, it is possible, that after "gods" were banished and veil was created, some titans picked up those dragons and imprisoned them underground... Though why did they not kill them outright in this scenario would be beyond me.
Sadly I don’t think dragon blood is a cure since the warden in Origins can drink dragon blood, mine had, and after i had Morrigan on inquisition send him a message for me did I learn he’s on his calling trying to find a cure. So dragons blood sadly doesn’t do much
I'm sorry but that Darkspawn Emissary looks soo goofy
I think the Blight is actually the will of the Maker; it seemingly can't be cured, it can infect everything (even rocks/lyrium), it brings intelligence the longer an infected survives. Maybe Solas or the elven gods sealed the maker away, which is why there was no one upon the throne when the magisters entered, and the city turned black as a trap left behind by the elven gods should the Maker find his way back. Just food for thought. We will probably get some pretty huge answers and surprises in Dreadwolf
The blight can't infect inorganic items. In Inquisition, Varric and Bianca say that red lyrium shouldn't exist because it's blighted lyrium. So it turns what we think about lyrium on its head.
I think that the three spoken of at 3:30 are the Architect, who ran away, maybe the Madman of Chaos (Zazikel) and another one who was eaten by the Madman. Corypheus was found elsewhere, so I guess that all of them where sent back together but in a different place and woke up. Its interesting though that the other three where able to find out what happened and who they are much earlier than Corypheus and the Architect, unless the Architect choose to forgot certain things because - maybe! - he was traumatized. But lets not forget: All of them where politican once upon a time and had no problem sacrificing elves and lifes like it was nothing.
A bloody mage grey warden sounds badass
I always thought the Dawkspawn, though twisted, still possessed the lingering will of the old Tevinter of seeking out their gods.
Thus, the reason are always looking for them. And by some side-effect, that Old God becomes Archdemon.
It's like they barely remember what they were, but their "old selves" somehow still linger within their savage nature.
We've seen a potential "cure" by the Architect. Sadly, some tend to go mad without being "guided" by the Blight's influence.
As for the Blight itself, and the so-called Golden City, well I'd say the Chantry stories are just plain wrong. The city was always Black.
Likely warped and full of taint since after Solas brought up the Veil and that city used to be an Elven Capital.
And I still stick to my theory: the Blight and the Maker are all a fabricated plan by the Evanuris, the old Elven Pantheon trapped in the Fade.
6:06 watching this after the confirmation of who the 2 figure flashed are o-o
Didn't it turn out in recent DLC that the earth itself is a Titan and lyrium being it's blood equivalent? Maybe the blight is like a blood cancer ?
I've always thought the old gods are mages of the past who took on Dragon forms kinda how Flemeth can transform into a dragon 🐉. Would love to see a video about Ghoulafaction as it's a little confusing between the three games
Big sad to see this will be the final one for a bit, love DA lore.
I didn't know that Grand Enchanter Fiona is actually King/Grey Warden Alistair's mother. She was pregnant with Alistair in the novel Dragon Age: The Calling.
I hope we finally get to finally visit the Black City in DA4. I have this gut feeling that the 'official version' of Tevinter Magisters causing the corruption is not a complete picture of what actually occurred there. It was interesting to however hear Corypheus say that the seat was empty in Inquisition while we encountered him in Haven's attack.
Also, I hope we get another blight in DA4. I think two of the old gods remain to be found. In a way I think this would be tied to the Anderfels region where the wardens are stationed in Weisshaupt fortress.
I definitely think that there is a major connection between Fen'Harel & the Maker and thus the Old Gods & the Evanuris, especially with the whole splitting the fade and material world and such. I also think that the fact that vallaslin has to do with blood and the blight does too is very important, perhaps the original vallaslin (lyrium infused?) may be a cure for the blight or a preventative!
I would love to actually see a Darkspawn Grey Warden, would love to see the Messenger from Awakening to have joined the Grey Wardens and become a future Companion would be an interesting Companion
Magia de Sangue feita por um Grey Warden.
É uma combinação inusitada para mim.
Esse pode mesmo ser o caminho da cura.
i wasn't incorrect about dragon age lore. i researched what the game said darkspawn were. if the company is retconning what darkspawn are, it means THEY were incorrect, not me. so dont insult my intelligence
So what exactly did we get wrong??
Imagine if some simple medicine is the cure. Like ibuprofen or something. 😂
I love the Darkspawn and the mystery surrounding the Blight! Personally I always thought, especially after the Descent DLC, that the Blight might have something to do with the Titans. I mean, we know that Titans, just like Arch Demons or Corypheus, emit a song that has the power to control those that fall under it. Sha-Brytol have quite a few similarities with Darkspawns and reminded me a lot of them.
My suspicion has been that the Blight started through the Evanuris inside the fade one way or another. The most probable cause being infecting the magisters that stumbled into their "Trap": the golden city. My theory is that the Black City could have turned black due to the fact, that the "Golden City" had been an illusion to lure those arrogant enough from the beginning, and "turning black" was just the Evanuris not seeing any point in keeping up their deception since they had already fulfilled their goal and had no further use for the lure of gold and devinity.
When the Magisters entered the city, like Starkgeek said in their comment, the Evanuris could have used them to be "Patient Zeros" through which they could release the Blight into the world beyond the fade. My assumption through sending them into the Deep Roads. I remember reading about Evanuris collapsing caverns and tunnels and entries to the deep roads, saying they had unleashed something terrible in Trespasser. I always wondered if what they unleashed couldn't have been a blighted titan. Solas describes those that unleashed the Blight as fools, and that in my opinion would fit with tainting a Titan with the Blight. I've been also wondering whether the Blight, Red Lyrium and Titans aren't connected as a whole. We're finding more and more of it, like it's spreading. Arch Demons don't like fighting on the surface if not absolutely necessary and the Dark Spawn also come out of the Deep Roads. The Dwarfs were the first hit, and they are still defending the surface every day. There's a connection there to me. Possibly that the reason we have reports of a Dwarf seeing 3 Darkspawn dressed like kings arguing about the black city in the Deep Roads is that they reawakened the tainted Titan either willingly or through being tainted by the Blight and drawn to the Titan like moths to a flame, and now they are serving that Titan in one way or another. My suspicion is that it started with 1 Titan, far far down into the stone, but that that taint has been spreading... closer and closer to the Thaigs of the Dwarfs and the surface. And that Red Lyrium is a byproduct of this. Which is also why we're finding more.
What if through the Magisters and the reawakened tainted Titan the taint spread in form of red Lyrium to more and more Titans underneath the earth. If a dwarf or any living being ventured too close they could be overtaken by the calling, and thus a slow infection spread that ultimately started seeping out of the cracks in the stone.
Of course that's all just speculation and I'm aware that there are probably many inconsistencies that don't really make sense. But there was so much focus on the Titans, the mention during Trespassers and the runes speaking of Mythal and the sealing of the Deep Roads, the war with Dwarfs and Titans... to me that's just too much to ignore. I think they are somehow connected.
"Disease of the taint" 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Do you prefer 3D or 2D sculpting?
One thing that’s always confused me, I probably overlooked something but if the archdemon is an old god would that make all dragons old god? Like specifically the one you have the option to poison andraste ashes with, is that high dragon a god as well? Would it have any form of intelligence? Is that why andraste ashes would be corrupted? If so how was it not trapped with the rest of the pantheon?
All old gods are high dragons. However, not all high dragons are old gods.
You should do elder scrolls lore. A video formatted like this would be so sick.
soon! :)
I love the video though buy inhave been wondering what happens to the soul when you become tainted. I don't think it gets destroyed.
I love the concept of the darkspawn. I hope we can bring them back to the forefront in another game for some reason. That being said can we please get DA:O darkspawn armor back? The darkspawn armor in DA2 and onward looks goofy to me. I might be in the minority about that though. lol
The hurlock alpha codex entry lends some insight into darkspawn' motivations. When asked what does his people want, the alpha replies: "There is no talk. No negotiation. You will die. Your world will die. Now you understand."
This sounds oddly familiar to what Solas says when asked about his plan in Trespasser...
Looks like there are 2 opposed parties interested in the end of Thedas: The elvhen empire led by Solas, and the darkspawn, led by whatever the evanuris awakened while mining titan corpses.
It would be nice if we where able to play as a sain darkspawn in da4 as a optional race
The first and the mother weren't special darkspawn, they were failed attempts of the arkitec at freeing the darkspawn from the calling, in fact the mother was driven insane because she no longer heard the song of the darkspawn as she put it.
@sarialue Is it possible that the Archdemons/Old Gods were the Evanuris?
Seven Old Gods (the ones excluding Mythal & Fen'heral) = Seven Elven Gods.
I'm starting to wonder if the difference between a demon and a spirit is the taint and maybe THATS why they fear the black city.
Origins Genlocks > 2/Inquisition Genlocks.
This sounds like wheel of time
You are wrong:
1) Mother could speak just because of Grey Warden's blood given by the Architect and she was insane cause the process of turning someone into the broodmother...is insane
2) A tainted person will not become true darkspawn but something different. There are many examples of what tainted person looks like after some time. Not real darkspawn reproduction but anothar mean to spred the Blight
3) Intelligent darkspawn mentioned in the codex are heavily implied to be original magisters who were cast down from the Black city
What if the Maker was Solas? And Andraste was Mythal?
I'm not a 100% on the lore, but.. isn't it so that all darkspawn are just creatures inflicted with the taint? I know there are many who are birthed from brood-mothers, but brood mothers too are normal beings who have been warped into a darkspawn? And their offspring still have the "genes" of their brood mother?
So Dwarves infected by the taint become Genlocks, humans become Hurlocks, elves become Shrieks and Qunari become Ogres? (My 17 year old self was so proud for seeing the correlation in that when playing DA: Origins back in the day.. Not sure if this still holds up with all the dragon age-lore published today?)
And there are no darkspawn that are "raised above" being infected by the taint?
What if Arch Demons, then, simply are dragons infected by the taint?
What if this "greater will", or hive-mentality, that seem to be behind the Blight, is just a result of thousands of consciousnesses being "pooled together" by whatever process the taint makes the hive-mentality by?
Also, don't remember if dragons in DA-universe can actually communicate with mortals? But if not, I imagine their "great inteligence" really coming into its right when its being fed into this hive-mentality shared by all dark spawn. Maybe even their great intelligence lets them assert some kind of influence over the others, and maintain some sense of self? And this is why tainted dragons, or "arch demons" are natural leaders for the dark spawn?
I think this would be really interesting. Like, there are no higher purpose or demonic evil behind the Blight, its just the result of many small voices all crying out and creating a "perfect storm". Even the old gods, or dragons, are a part of it. It really asks some big questions about what "godhood" actually means and how all creatures really can fall to the same influences...
The Darkspawn remind me of the White Walkers from Game of Thrones. The appearance of being creatures that randomly attack, but hints that they are more intelligent than at first glance. And the mysterious origin. If the Black City really is Arlethan, and unrelated to the creation of the Darkspawn, plus Corypheus saying the Darkspawn already existed when he was a wee lad, where did they come from, or were they always around? Also, there is one cure for the Blight that is 100% effective and that is *spoiler alert* deez nutz
Well the Chantry doesn't touch on ancient Elvin lore at all. Solas created the Veil to the beyond/fade long before the Tevinter old gods came into prominence. The golden city existed, but was this due to the "gods" merging into one god (the maker) or was the maker already there? Hmm...
Goaded by the seven gods of Tevinter, the 7 high priests worked together (but also in secret, hence the names like Corypheus and the Architect) to reach the golden city. Turned it black. The seven true high dragons (the old gods) get locked deep underground. Perhaps they are easily tainted to become archedemons because of their high priests.
So neither really contradicts the other. And most likely the three that a dwarf saw arguing with one killing the other one were three of the magisters. That would mean that after DA:I (if you killed the Architect like I always do) there are only four of those blighted magisters left (unless the four went at it and killed each other).
I think the archdemons show up for the blights in the same order as the magisters entered the golden city before it turned black (Dumat was the first and, given the self importance Corypheus has, he probably entered first).
I also think the titan (pretty sure there's actually only one, but could be wrong) is immune to the blight. Only the lyrium that grows outside of the titan's actual body is affected. This thought is because we literally don't see any signs of taint in the titan and the darkspawn avoid the entire area. Granted I also think the first instance of the titan causing earthquakes mentioned in the Descent DLC was due to the arrival of the blight because it was scared it would succumb.
An intelligent darkspawn companion!
A Disease of the Taint?
Sounds unpleasant.