@@thegreatkeljb I don't mean to be rude to Rekkles or anything but did you actually see the games? Like, all memes aside, yes Caedrel missplayed many times but the difference in shotcalling is abysmal
@@numeritos1799 Chill bro it's his first series with the boys. Have you watch the first two games when the draft was good? It is actually night and day between the team's gameplay and their play with Caedrel. The last two was actual just draft diff, full dive comp against Poppy, Sej, Ezreal, and Sylas that can steal Gragas and Ahri ulit, you're not winning that against decent players. The fourth game draft was just plain donkey ass draft. If you watch them play with Caedrel, it's actual Neme and Crownie who did a lot of correct calls. Most of the time, Caedrel calls are wrong, like saying the team should not fight but ending up winning the fight anyway. The only difference rn is the comms is loudly and live when Caedrel was playing.
Yeah, Caedrel unironically covered for a lot of their weaknesses. Being active, finding picks, good macro, crossmaps. All these things are missing now.
Having a scapegoat to blame when things go wrong that doesn't mind taking that role keeps morale high. Caedrel running it down and macro was a big part of why they were winning lost games in my opinion. Now it's a new team they will need to reajust.
It's because caedrel was constantly watching baus and telling him when it is good for him to int. Now they don't have that so baus is just back to being a soloq player
Yeah that's "coinflip getting challenger with 70% WR", always >10CS/min, always being 1rst or 2nd in gold and taking 85% of the map tower and 70% of map pressure. I swear you sound like the autofill silvers in my diamond draft games trying to teach people with 1200 LP more than them how to play the game 😂 They are kind people tho, a bit crazy, but I love their determination in convincing people to just "run it down with their *calls*" 😅 Baus is the God of Prio, Caedrel knew how to exploit it, with him leaving, the team needs to learn how to do it without his Shotcalls. My guess is Rekless / Velja and Nemesis will learn and do the shotcalling fort the overall team. Neme has an amazing map awareness of all moves and player position at all time, Velja has great "out of the box ideas" and Rekkles speak very little for now, but every single word he said was on point. He has experience and will talk a lot when used to play with this team. He is gonna do as great as Caedrel but with an awesome level of gameplay too (which our beloved coach did not have according to his own words).
It’s been proven already by Faker that someone mechanically good is not always the best choice. Caedrel might night be the best support but he knows how to read the map state and gives out good shot calls and his teammates either follow through it or have better play. I’ve watched their scrims with reckless but it felt like they were playing solo queue.
Faker is still one of the top mechanical players so while I get your point it’s just not comparable. More accurate would be Hai for C9 but even meteos and sneaky have come out against the hai macro god narrative.
let rekkless be comfortable with the team. yall have to understand that Sally is a PROFESSIONAL YAPPA. that guy YAPS SO MUCH, he got pressed by T1 stans for yapping. if rekkless becomes a yapper too, he will win worlds again
@seaweedbanana4663 its a joke that flew over your head but its ok, we all yap and dont think. i wish baus and rekkless does that on comms too they need to yap more
@ yeah he got big shoes to fil, also oddly enough D2Beryl inting led to some decently won team fights. My gripe with Rekkles has always been he’s a bit passive even as an adc. It’s why I never ranked him high. He and crownie have great scores cause crownie is calling most things but Rekkles doesn’t really die for plays as much.
Yeah, i was watching their scrims and something felt off with the team, especially the coms. Without Caedrel, the team doesn't seem that vocal and overall kinda meh to watch i guess.
@@Kalatakieta Yeah its pretty interesting because Caedral LR was the quintessential scrappy, engagy comp, much like T1. You get your engage, follow up mid, bruiser teamfighter jungle and whatever adc and top. With Rekkles in, who prefers ranged supports and safe play, I think they will now face a bit of a draft identity crisis in which they are not fully aware on how to properly play poke comps.
In a Gragas v Aurora game, when Baus was 1-7 and Aurora 7-0, Baus was 300 gold ahead of Aurora and had the most gold of the game. Aurora had a 500 gold shutdown
@@jorgenaranjo8029 That is because the Auora ends up grouping to get other objective while Baus team has to concede since they are down while he eventually getting a small incremental lead. Aurora is winning because he gained more pressure across the map.
Ngl every defeat on that scrim block felt they had 0 damage. Along with the fact macro wasn’t good, makes them value a lot Caedrel game knowledge and brain in general
People with high deaths typically have decent damage too because they're constantly fighting, it all adds up. The age old situation of your bronze teammate flaming everyone cuz they have most damage while ignoring the fact that they've got 20 deaths is a classic, lol. (edit - not to imply Baus is bronze, he's great and this is a very different level of play)
It was one scrim lol. Also things were fine but Baus kinda griefed game 4 and Bwipo griefed the draft by yapping them into something super uncomfortable. They don’t need Caedrel to make moves on the map they have Crownie.
Well, they do have the knowledge. They just need a bit of time to get more comfortable and find their place in the team environment. This is 100% a thing that will get fixed as time goes on :D
I mean he seemed more than fine to me for a first time scrim. Think with a bit of time and talks with caedrel he'll be speaking his mind more often. Mechanically its a gigantic upgrade so far tho, imagine if caedrel was playing the series today 💀
Depends on the gamestate honestly, like the sion game he was 0/7 vs 7/1 aurora and ahead in gold xd Like these are proplayers, they dont look at scores but at gamestate and items. But yea he has a lot of consistency progress to make before the season starts.
If you are tilted by just your teammate's kda without caring at all about the gamestate then you need to uninstall league fast. You're not even playing the game at that point, you're just loading in to tilt.
Baus also was 100+ CS up in the last game, so its not as bad as it looked. But they were not so connected on calls today. Also first day of scrim without Caedrel carrying draft and with enemies picking tanks into baus, which his champpool is bad for
@@_papasparta_-txc-4730 When he is dead that means pressure around the map. He may be ahead but it leads to other team laners/junglers to get leads because the enemy team is playing 4v5. Was working against mediocre teams but against any team that isn't mentally challenged that's a 20min win.
Evryone seemed a little out of focus yesterday, but its ok, coms needs to improve and also talk around macro choices for what you can gain most out of.
@@lukazagi9183Once you fall behind on Nidalee its so hard to come back into the game, u just have to walk a tightrope and even then other junglers are better. Just look at Zyra in the game LR played, was literally so strong and had 10x impact than Nidalee.
This is a COMPLETELY new team. With a top laner that’s known for having a completely different playstyle than regular top laners and has no pro experience. And these are not "stage games", these are scrims. They also did not have the "main coach". Stop overreacting. Let them figure things out lmfaooo
Training wheels came off...and by training wheels, I mean Sally.
Not really, just draft diff. They had a wonky ass solo queue draft on those loses. They'd be fine when Caedrel drafts for them.
@@thegreatkeljb I don't mean to be rude to Rekkles or anything but did you actually see the games? Like, all memes aside, yes Caedrel missplayed many times but the difference in shotcalling is abysmal
@@numeritos1799Exactly that! But Rekkles will do it soon, let him some time ;-)
@@numeritos1799 Chill bro it's his first series with the boys. Have you watch the first two games when the draft was good? It is actually night and day between the team's gameplay and their play with Caedrel. The last two was actual just draft diff, full dive comp against Poppy, Sej, Ezreal, and Sylas that can steal Gragas and Ahri ulit, you're not winning that against decent players. The fourth game draft was just plain donkey ass draft. If you watch them play with Caedrel, it's actual Neme and Crownie who did a lot of correct calls. Most of the time, Caedrel calls are wrong, like saying the team should not fight but ending up winning the fight anyway. The only difference rn is the comms is loudly and live when Caedrel was playing.
@@thegreatkeljbyeap when caedrel went out draft went loose 😅
Everyone getting infected by bausenslaw lmfao.
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Yeah, Caedrel unironically covered for a lot of their weaknesses.
Being active, finding picks, good macro, crossmaps.
All these things are missing now.
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Having a scapegoat to blame when things go wrong that doesn't mind taking that role keeps morale high. Caedrel running it down and macro was a big part of why they were winning lost games in my opinion. Now it's a new team they will need to reajust.
bro has not heard of grey kayn before.
It's because caedrel was constantly watching baus and telling him when it is good for him to int. Now they don't have that so baus is just back to being a soloq player
Idk much about competitive league but is caedrel allowed to participate in voice comms as a coach? Actively making calls live?
@@ardechey No, the coach can only participate in the draft phase. When the game starts the players are on their own.
every time thebausffs enters a game, the gods flip a coin
Yeah that's "coinflip getting challenger with 70% WR", always >10CS/min, always being 1rst or 2nd in gold and taking 85% of the map tower and 70% of map pressure.
I swear you sound like the autofill silvers in my diamond draft games trying to teach people with 1200 LP more than them how to play the game 😂
They are kind people tho, a bit crazy, but I love their determination in convincing people to just "run it down with their *calls*" 😅
Baus is the God of Prio, Caedrel knew how to exploit it, with him leaving, the team needs to learn how to do it without his Shotcalls.
My guess is Rekless / Velja and Nemesis will learn and do the shotcalling fort the overall team.
Neme has an amazing map awareness of all moves and player position at all time, Velja has great "out of the box ideas" and Rekkles speak very little for now, but every single word he said was on point. He has experience and will talk a lot when used to play with this team. He is gonna do as great as Caedrel but with an awesome level of gameplay too (which our beloved coach did not have according to his own words).
I mean, you know its a joke right?
@@aldzcant1736 I don't know man. So many people are first degree mean with the guy, I swear it's not easy to know people intent sometimes...
@@Masterpouya so many people are first degree glizzy too xdd chillout
@@Masterpouyathats a whole dozen of glazed doughnuts, holy shit man
They loose macro god, but get challenger support...
Worlds Champions Support*
@@mid-dinero7869 World champion substitute/analyst.
@@arcticfoxes8034 this player "won" worlds without playing. i guess i won worlds as well as a t1 fan
lose*****
grey demon vs unkillable demon the choice is yours
Rekkless needs to step up his game. 2 Deaths does not fit into this team well.
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It’s been proven already by Faker that someone mechanically good is not always the best choice. Caedrel might night be the best support but he knows how to read the map state and gives out good shot calls and his teammates either follow through it or have better play. I’ve watched their scrims with reckless but it felt like they were playing solo queue.
Faker is still one of the top mechanical players so while I get your point it’s just not comparable. More accurate would be Hai for C9 but even meteos and sneaky have come out against the hai macro god narrative.
let rekkless be comfortable with the team. yall have to understand that Sally is a PROFESSIONAL YAPPA. that guy YAPS SO MUCH, he got pressed by T1 stans for yapping.
if rekkless becomes a yapper too, he will win worlds again
again lmao
if only rekkless gets to play when they’re against a minor region
@seaweedbanana4663 its a joke that flew over your head but its ok, we all yap and dont think. i wish baus and rekkless does that on comms too they need to yap more
i think without sally you guys are more passive, rekkles dosn't speak up as much as cadrael. There's too much meandering in the mid game.
That's correct, but Rekkles will speak more, he is new in the squad. Let him some time to blend in!
@ yeah he got big shoes to fil, also oddly enough D2Beryl inting led to some decently won team fights. My gripe with Rekkles has always been he’s a bit passive even as an adc. It’s why I never ranked him high. He and crownie have great scores cause crownie is calling most things but Rekkles doesn’t really die for plays as much.
Technically Rekkles just join so 4 of them just need to adopt
Yeah, i was watching their scrims and something felt off with the team, especially the coms. Without Caedrel, the team doesn't seem that vocal and overall kinda meh to watch i guess.
@@Kalatakieta Yeah its pretty interesting because Caedral LR was the quintessential scrappy, engagy comp, much like T1. You get your engage, follow up mid, bruiser teamfighter jungle and whatever adc and top. With Rekkles in, who prefers ranged supports and safe play, I think they will now face a bit of a draft identity crisis in which they are not fully aware on how to properly play poke comps.
Look at the gold difference Baus is always top 3 in all the games almost
In a Gragas v Aurora game, when Baus was 1-7 and Aurora 7-0, Baus was 300 gold ahead of Aurora and had the most gold of the game. Aurora had a 500 gold shutdown
@@jorgenaranjo8029 exactly , I think it has potential to off meta most of top teams
One problem with this is that the enemy also gets a lot of gold and xp from him.
@@jorgenaranjo8029 yeah the problem is the aurora is mega fed though and can steam roll baus's team
@@jorgenaranjo8029 That is because the Auora ends up grouping to get other objective while Baus team has to concede since they are down while he eventually getting a small incremental lead. Aurora is winning because he gained more pressure across the map.
Ngl every defeat on that scrim block felt they had 0 damage. Along with the fact macro wasn’t good, makes them value a lot Caedrel game knowledge and brain in general
Baus was still even on damage even with 10 deaths
That happens if you fight 24/7 for minion waves 😂
People with high deaths typically have decent damage too because they're constantly fighting, it all adds up.
The age old situation of your bronze teammate flaming everyone cuz they have most damage while ignoring the fact that they've got 20 deaths is a classic, lol.
(edit - not to imply Baus is bronze, he's great and this is a very different level of play)
Meaningless damage bc he took a lot of fights that he should not lol these glazers won't stop
This arg sucks. I can pick Karthus and ran it 1vs5 all game and get 70k dmg by going 0/20 and lose the game by myself. Been there, done that.
lol baus was saying in game 4 how midlaners used to be bad
"Even Rekkless two deaths"😂
Thats how we know the games were hard
It was one scrim lol. Also things were fine but Baus kinda griefed game 4 and Bwipo griefed the draft by yapping them into something super uncomfortable. They don’t need Caedrel to make moves on the map they have Crownie.
caedral is what brings them together
Now only 1 inter left on the team 💀💀💀
replacing the lead macro caller with a quiet kda support -- a modern tragedy
Well, they do have the knowledge. They just need a bit of time to get more comfortable and find their place in the team environment. This is 100% a thing that will get fixed as time goes on :D
Bro when one person dominates the comms obviously others would be reluctant to speak cause they could voice out wrong calls
@@yesyeayepnonope716 if crownie gets to shot call they are doomed to failure
I mean he seemed more than fine to me for a first time scrim. Think with a bit of time and talks with caedrel he'll be speaking his mind more often.
Mechanically its a gigantic upgrade so far tho, imagine if caedrel was playing the series today 💀
A bit premature to be saying this, Rekkles is an upgrade.
Caedrel diff
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Gray kayn 💀
It's funny how Rekkless is the least Rekkless player on the team. 2 deaths? My god... lol
i can not even imagine how tilting it must be to press tab every game and see your top laner is 0/5 by 10 minutes in a pro play setting 💀
Depends on the gamestate honestly, like the sion game he was 0/7 vs 7/1 aurora and ahead in gold xd
Like these are proplayers, they dont look at scores but at gamestate and items.
But yea he has a lot of consistency progress to make before the season starts.
If you are tilted by just your teammate's kda without caring at all about the gamestate then you need to uninstall league fast. You're not even playing the game at that point, you're just loading in to tilt.
Baus also was 100+ CS up in the last game, so its not as bad as it looked. But they were not so connected on calls today. Also first day of scrim without Caedrel carrying draft and with enemies picking tanks into baus, which his champpool is bad for
@@_papasparta_-txc-4730 When he is dead that means pressure around the map. He may be ahead but it leads to other team laners/junglers to get leads because the enemy team is playing 4v5. Was working against mediocre teams but against any team that isn't mentally challenged that's a 20min win.
@@coderaven1107 Split pushing while the enemy top laner groups and gets gold across the map. His strategy works in soloq.
i feel cadreal was a big voice in the team reckless didnt call things
Is everyone ignoring the fact they played against objectively better teams here? I mean most of these guys are ex pros
i don't know how they were allowed to be so stacked in the nno tournament in the first place ;p
... what lol -- they have significantly better players in almost every role. Those players are "ex" lec for a reason.
The french team was better
Lets see how it will go with 4 mute players
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Those last two games 😂😂😂 baus
Last game I think they just played for fun with that draft and didn't care about winning.
Evryone seemed a little out of focus yesterday, but its ok, coms needs to improve and also talk around macro choices for what you can gain most out of.
Baus inting from silver solo q
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JUST STOP PALYIGN NIDA JG, AGAISNT GOOD TEAMS YOU LOOSE 90% TIME
He is a nid main..
@@lukazagi9183and? is he canyon?
@@lukazagi9183Once you fall behind on Nidalee its so hard to come back into the game, u just have to walk a tightrope and even then other junglers are better. Just look at Zyra in the game LR played, was literally so strong and had 10x impact than Nidalee.
This is a COMPLETELY new team. With a top laner that’s known for having a completely different playstyle than regular top laners and has no pro experience. And these are not "stage games", these are scrims. They also did not have the "main coach". Stop overreacting. Let them figure things out lmfaooo
Even Canyon got stomped and was 0/7 in the Kespa Cup.
Why is Nemesis always so childish? Is he not mid 20s?
Baus is the problem.
Baus is the reason why this team has any kind of attention put on it
@ na, not only him. But I hear you.