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Nemesis Reacts to Message from SANCHOVIES 👀
Nemesis Reacts to Message from SANCHOVIES 👀
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Nemesis About LOS RATONES JERSEY Situation 👀
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Nemesis About LOS RATONES JERSEY Situation 👀 [SOLD OUT] [SCALPED?!] ➡️ Credits: Support Nemesis on Twitch And RUclips Twitch: twitch.tv/lol_nemesis RUclips: ruclips.net/user/Nemesis_lol #Nemesis #LEC #LeagueOfLegends 📫 Send me Your Plays : terenn111345@gmail.com ⚠️ League of Legends Footage Permission: www.riotgames.com/en/legal 👍 Don’t forget to drop a like ✅ 💟 Thanks for watching!
Nemesis About His Performance in LOS RATONES vs T1 🤔
Просмотров 9 тыс.17 часов назад
Nemesis About His Performance in LOS RATONES vs T1 🤔 [RED BULL EVENT] ➡️ Credits: Support Nemesis on Twitch And RUclips Twitch: twitch.tv/lol_nemesis RUclips: ruclips.net/user/Nemesis_lol #Nemesis #LEC #LeagueOfLegends 📫 Send me Your Plays : terenn111345@gmail.com ⚠️ League of Legends Footage Permission: www.riotgames.com/en/legal 👍 Don’t forget to drop a like ✅ 💟 Thanks for watching!
KOI JOJOPYUN Reacts to TheBAUS Stream for The FIRST Time 👀
Просмотров 4,2 тыс.17 часов назад
KOI JOJOPYUN Reacts to Los Ratones TheBAUS Stream for The FIRST Time 👀 [FUNNY] ➡️ Credits: Support JOJOPYUN on Socials: Twitch: www.twitch.tv/jojopyun Twitter: x.com/jojopyunlol Instagram: jojopyun #JOJOPYUN #LEC #LeagueOfLegends 📫 Send me Your Plays : terenn111345@gmail.com ⚠️ League of Legends Footage Permission: www.riotgames.com/en/legal 👍 Don’t forget to drop a like ✅ 💟 Than...
Nemesis About Current Form of LOS RATONES 🤔
Просмотров 16 тыс.7 часов назад
Nemesis About Current Form of LOS RATONES with REKKLES 🤔 ➡️ Credits: Support Nemesis on Twitch And RUclips Twitch: twitch.tv/lol_nemesis RUclips: ruclips.net/user/Nemesis_lol #Nemesis #LEC #LeagueOfLegends 📫 Send me Your Plays : terenn111345@gmail.com ⚠️ League of Legends Footage Permission: www.riotgames.com/en/legal 👍 Don’t forget to drop a like ✅ 💟 Thanks for watching!
Nemesis Honest Opinion on T1 vs LOS RATONES 🤔
Просмотров 65 тыс.7 часов назад
Nemesis Honest Opinion on T1 vs LOS RATONES 🤔 - Nemesis About REUNITING With REKKLES IRL ➡️ Credits: Support Nemesis on Twitch And RUclips Twitch: twitch.tv/lol_nemesis RUclips: ruclips.net/user/Nemesis_lol #Nemesis #LEC #LeagueOfLegends 📫 Send me Your Plays : terenn111345@gmail.com ⚠️ League of Legends Footage Permission: www.riotgames.com/en/legal 👍 Don’t forget to drop a like ✅ 💟 Thanks for ...
Selfmade About WUFO Situation 🤔
Просмотров 5067 часов назад
Selfmade About WUFO Situation 🤔 ➡️ Credits: Support Selfmade on Twitch Twitch: www.twitch.tv/lol_selfmade #Selfmade #VITALITY #LEC #LeagueOfLegends 📫 Send me Your Plays : terenn111345@gmail.com ⚠️ League of Legends Footage Permission: www.riotgames.com/en/legal 👍 Don’t forget to drop a like ✅ 💟 Thanks for watching!
Selfmade About Playing SCRIMS for NEW Team?! 👀
Просмотров 8937 часов назад
Selfmade About Playing SCRIMS for NEW Team?! 👀 ➡️ Credits: Support Selfmade on Twitch Twitch: www.twitch.tv/lol_selfmade #Selfmade #VITALITY #LEC #LeagueOfLegends 📫 Send me Your Plays : terenn111345@gmail.com ⚠️ League of Legends Footage Permission: www.riotgames.com/en/legal 👍 Don’t forget to drop a like ✅ 💟 Thanks for watching!
Selfmade About FNC HUMANOID Being BEST VIKTOR in LEC 👀
Просмотров 1,8 тыс.7 часов назад
Selfmade About FNC HUMANOID Being BEST VIKTOR in LEC 👀 ➡️ Credits: Support Selfmade on Twitch Twitch: www.twitch.tv/lol_selfmade #Selfmade #VITALITY #LEC #LeagueOfLegends 📫 Send me Your Plays : terenn111345@gmail.com ⚠️ League of Legends Footage Permission: www.riotgames.com/en/legal 👍 Don’t forget to drop a like ✅ 💟 Thanks for watching!
Nemesis About LOS RATONES NIDALEE Pick Situation 🤔
Просмотров 12 тыс.12 часов назад
Nemesis About LOS RATONES NIDALEE Pick Situation 🤔 ➡️ Credits: Support Nemesis on Twitch And RUclips Twitch: twitch.tv/lol_nemesis RUclips: ruclips.net/user/Nemesis_lol #Nemesis #LEC #LeagueOfLegends 📫 Send me Your Plays : terenn111345@gmail.com ⚠️ League of Legends Footage Permission: www.riotgames.com/en/legal 👍 Don’t forget to drop a like ✅ 💟 Thanks for watching!
Nemesis About TheBAUS Being WRONG 👀
Просмотров 29 тыс.12 часов назад
Nemesis About TheBAUS Being WRONG 👀 ➡️ Credits: Support Nemesis on Twitch And RUclips Twitch: twitch.tv/lol_nemesis RUclips: ruclips.net/user/Nemesis_lol #Nemesis #LEC #LeagueOfLegends 📫 Send me Your Plays : terenn111345@gmail.com ⚠️ League of Legends Footage Permission: www.riotgames.com/en/legal 👍 Don’t forget to drop a like ✅ 💟 Thanks for watching!
Nemesis ROASTING CAEDREL and REKKLES in One Sentence 👀
Просмотров 14 тыс.12 часов назад
Nemesis ROASTING CAEDREL and REKKLES in One Sentence 👀 [LOS RATONES] [DRAMA] ➡️ Credits: Support Nemesis on Twitch And RUclips Twitch: twitch.tv/lol_nemesis RUclips: ruclips.net/user/Nemesis_lol #Nemesis #LEC #LeagueOfLegends 📫 Send me Your Plays : terenn111345@gmail.com ⚠️ League of Legends Footage Permission: www.riotgames.com/en/legal 👍 Don’t forget to drop a like ✅ 💟 Thanks for watching!
JOJOPYUN and ELYOYA About KOI INTING SCRIMS vs G2 👀
Просмотров 11 тыс.12 часов назад
KOI JOJOPYUN and ELYOYA About KOI INTING SCRIMS vs G2 👀 [FUNNY] ➡️ Credits: Support JOJOPYUN on Socials: Twitch: www.twitch.tv/jojopyun Twitter: x.com/jojopyunlol Instagram: jojopyun #JOJOPYUN #LEC #LeagueOfLegends 📫 Send me Your Plays : terenn111345@gmail.com ⚠️ League of Legends Footage Permission: www.riotgames.com/en/legal 👍 Don’t forget to drop a like ✅ 💟 Thanks for watching!
Nemesis Reacts to REKKLES vs TheBAUS Comparison 👀
Просмотров 6 тыс.14 часов назад
Nemesis Reacts to REKKLES vs TheBAUS Comparison 👀 [LOS RATONES] ➡️ Credits: Support Nemesis on Twitch And RUclips Twitch: twitch.tv/lol_nemesis RUclips: ruclips.net/user/Nemesis_lol #Nemesis #LEC #LeagueOfLegends 📫 Send me Your Plays : terenn111345@gmail.com ⚠️ League of Legends Footage Permission: www.riotgames.com/en/legal 👍 Don’t forget to drop a like ✅ 💟 Thanks for watching!
Nemesis Reacts to TheBAUS Opinion LOS RATONES LOSING SCRIMS 👀 [ROASTED]
Просмотров 23 тыс.14 часов назад
Nemesis Reacts to TheBAUS Opinion LOS RATONES LOSING SCRIMS 👀 [ROASTED] - TheBAUS About Becoming LEADER in Los Ratones ➡️ Credits: Support Nemesis on Twitch And RUclips Twitch: twitch.tv/lol_nemesis RUclips: ruclips.net/user/Nemesis_lol #Nemesis #LEC #LeagueOfLegends 📫 Send me Your Plays : terenn111345@gmail.com ⚠️ League of Legends Footage Permission: www.riotgames.com/en/legal 👍 Don’t forget ...
JOJOPYUN About KOI Coach MELZHET Situation 👀
Просмотров 2,4 тыс.14 часов назад
JOJOPYUN About KOI Coach MELZHET Situation 👀
Nemesis About First LOS RATONES SCRIMS With REKKLES 👀
Просмотров 67 тыс.16 часов назад
Nemesis About First LOS RATONES SCRIMS With REKKLES 👀
JOJOPYUN Learning Spanish Language on Stream 👀 ft. SUPA
Просмотров 5 тыс.16 часов назад
JOJOPYUN Learning Spanish Language on Stream 👀 ft. SUPA
KOI JOJOPYUN About His FIST FIGHT with ELYOYA 👀
Просмотров 4,4 тыс.16 часов назад
KOI JOJOPYUN About His FIST FIGHT with ELYOYA 👀
KOI JOJOPYUN Reacts to ELYOYA ROASTING KC VLADI and YIKE 👀
Просмотров 7 тыс.16 часов назад
KOI JOJOPYUN Reacts to ELYOYA ROASTING KC VLADI and YIKE 👀
KOI JOJOPYUN and ELYOYA With 200IQ Play 👀 [FUNNY]
Просмотров 10 тыс.16 часов назад
KOI JOJOPYUN and ELYOYA With 200IQ Play 👀 [FUNNY]
Nemesis About TheBAUS Being HIGHER RANK Than Him 👀
Просмотров 19 тыс.День назад
Nemesis About TheBAUS Being HIGHER RANK Than Him 👀
Nemesis About LOS RATONES SCRIMS Situation 👀
Просмотров 20 тыс.День назад
Nemesis About LOS RATONES SCRIMS Situation 👀
Nemesis Reacts to JOJOPYUN SMURFING in MADLIONS vs KC 👀
Просмотров 37 тыс.День назад
Nemesis Reacts to JOJOPYUN SMURFING in MADLIONS vs KC 👀
G2 BrokenBlade About SHEN TOP Situation 🤔
Просмотров 3,1 тыс.День назад
G2 BrokenBlade About SHEN TOP Situation 🤔
Nemesis Reacts to AGURIN MENTAL BOOM on Stream 👀 [CLASSIC]
Просмотров 16 тыс.День назад
Nemesis Reacts to AGURIN MENTAL BOOM on Stream 👀 [CLASSIC]
Nemesis About REKKLES COACHING LOS RATONES 👀
Просмотров 32 тыс.День назад
Nemesis About REKKLES COACHING LOS RATONES 👀
Nemesis About FOX In His HOUSE 👀
Просмотров 3,2 тыс.День назад
Nemesis About FOX In His HOUSE 👀
Nemesis About Him JOINING Team HERETICS 👀
Просмотров 9 тыс.День назад
Nemesis About Him JOINING Team HERETICS 👀
Nemesis Reacts to TheBAUS SMURFING on AP IRELIA 👀
Просмотров 43 тыс.День назад
Nemesis Reacts to TheBAUS SMURFING on AP IRELIA 👀

Комментарии

  • @starfariespinksupercute
    @starfariespinksupercute 3 часа назад

    HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

  • @mrbluesky3972
    @mrbluesky3972 5 часов назад

    is he still even relevant?

  • @xXHotaroXx
    @xXHotaroXx 7 часов назад

    Everybody: Neme is INSAAAAAANE ! Nemesis: I played so bad....like 20% of my capacity only.

  • @xavmarz755
    @xavmarz755 10 часов назад

    Wow this SITUATION is absolutely insane. Can't believe a SITUATION like this could even arize. You'd think as people we would've evolved past all these SITUATIONS...

  • @ernest7241
    @ernest7241 11 часов назад

    good actor

  • @Masterpouya
    @Masterpouya 12 часов назад

    If that was 20%, I dream of the 100% !!

  • @blurryface5744
    @blurryface5744 15 часов назад

    "He's 3/12 with 10cs a minute. How is that even possible bruhh" world class acting. Yeah sure man this guy haven't seen Baus before. Yeah sure.

    • @menchupamela811
      @menchupamela811 8 часов назад

      Literally he don't even know against who is competing next year

  • @domagojpinter3587
    @domagojpinter3587 16 часов назад

    What are you talking about🤣🤣🤣🤣 they played off role and don t play lol for month… Hahahahahaha

    • @wwekings9505
      @wwekings9505 15 часов назад

      And they didn’t even got the full roaster and their champ were legit booty juice

    • @domagojpinter3587
      @domagojpinter3587 15 часов назад

      @ true they hype so much hahahah

    • @faerdfsa
      @faerdfsa 15 часов назад

      are you talking to the voices?

    • @TwentyEight_Art
      @TwentyEight_Art 15 часов назад

      @@wwekings9505 Waa waaa T1 copeium

    • @brian3634
      @brian3634 14 часов назад

      What is this responding to?

  • @Mike-ni8uz
    @Mike-ni8uz 16 часов назад

    Neme you were insane!

  • @dissidius13
    @dissidius13 17 часов назад

    This is gonna age well like a fine wine in the future. Calling it now.

  • @SherifNeamatalla
    @SherifNeamatalla 17 часов назад

    Getting clapped by baus is in his future, TRUST

  • @LaNoir.
    @LaNoir. 2 дня назад

    Nemesis: "May god be with us" Baus: "I'm coming, I'm coming"

  • @aniswara480
    @aniswara480 2 дня назад

    WE WON BOYSSSSS

  • @gergelybiro
    @gergelybiro 2 дня назад

    The problem with Los Ratones is: Individually they are all great, but Caedrel has an edge of knowing comps, counters, and game macro beyond anyone else. Even if individually they all better on their roles, Caedrel subbing in any role, and communicating makes the team infinitely stronger

  • @1Plebeian
    @1Plebeian 2 дня назад

    Their macro is definitely worse without Caedrel.

  • @leopard3473
    @leopard3473 2 дня назад

    “may faker be with you guys”

  • @baNkzFortnite
    @baNkzFortnite 2 дня назад

    I'm sure t1 sent rekkles to int the scrim so t1 has a chance

  • @rpvmnh7751
    @rpvmnh7751 2 дня назад

    Cringe jojopyun fan only posting clips or your boyfriend

  • @Everestスノー
    @Everestスノー 2 дня назад

    Can we watch the LIVE game from LoL's twitch channel?

  • @average_student4378
    @average_student4378 3 дня назад

    pls someone tell me the time the match is going to start

    • @renhardhalim
      @renhardhalim 3 дня назад

      If you're SEAGANG than you're cooked. The event start at 3PM CET. LR is the third match so their match will be start at 6PM.

    • @DasSnek
      @DasSnek 2 дня назад

      ​​@@renhardhalimLR is at 19:35?

  • @earvinpiamonte
    @earvinpiamonte 3 дня назад

    Neme: "may God be with us" Baus: "I don't remember ever leaving"

  • @jdmd3247
    @jdmd3247 3 дня назад

    Bad thing Humanoid is the biggest paycheck stealer in the whole history of LEC. So much talent and so much potential wasted, this kind of players is what keep the region stucked as fuck

  • @Hiaki1000
    @Hiaki1000 3 дня назад

    I mean, you have Baus

  • @PaddyBaddie
    @PaddyBaddie 3 дня назад

    I just want the boys to have tons of fun and build great relationships with the T1 boys <3

  • @elia0162
    @elia0162 3 дня назад

    Thw grey demon is much stornger than the unkillable demon

  • @mateuszsiedlarz7650
    @mateuszsiedlarz7650 3 дня назад

    it's like a sparring a man with a woman when no matter what a man does whether he stomps or play along and let a woman win he's not gaining anything xdd

    • @Ettanlös1822
      @Ettanlös1822 2 дня назад

      You mean no matter what a man does, he won't get anything from his woman, like sex?`Or what you mean

  • @garailac
    @garailac 3 дня назад

    God is with you in the top lane

  • @tbone9000
    @tbone9000 3 дня назад

    anyone expecting anything but a stomp is deluded, T1 won't last a chance.

    • @Aviqu
      @Aviqu 3 дня назад

      for real, how can anyone think of something else

    • @emilydegroot6436
      @emilydegroot6436 3 дня назад

      They had us in the first half, ngl

    • @peytonsmith1062
      @peytonsmith1062 3 дня назад

      I mean, Los Ratones has a World champion in their roster. Surely, they can win. One thing T1 has to look out for is Baus. With him average 2/10 every scrims, T1 Doran should be praying every night hoping he wins against Baus in the top lane.

    • @persona189blank6
      @persona189blank6 2 дня назад

      Remember if T1 is beating los Ratines it’s all according to plan

    • @grinderino2060
      @grinderino2060 2 дня назад

      Lul

  • @ultratronger
    @ultratronger 3 дня назад

    honestly, they have doran and untara, doran is good mechanically but he might not be acclimated to the team yet, and untara is an absolute troll, if they can beat t1 its now lol

    • @freyakvinski774
      @freyakvinski774 3 дня назад

      They have untara we have intara

    • @whereDoCarrotsComeFrom
      @whereDoCarrotsComeFrom 3 дня назад

      ☝️🗣️🔥🗣️🔥 But We have ankara messi

    • @lighting7508
      @lighting7508 3 дня назад

      You’re completely delusional… I like that 😍😍

    • @optie5
      @optie5 3 дня назад

      dont underestimate the aatrox ult flash mind control

    • @lubelle9447
      @lubelle9447 3 дня назад

      But they also have faker oner and gumayusi lol

  • @MrAspect121
    @MrAspect121 3 дня назад

    god is with you ... its called Baus

    • @user-Datex
      @user-Datex 3 дня назад

      I believe in Messi

    • @jonathanarcher5356
      @jonathanarcher5356 3 дня назад

      He is the opitome of good game, bad game. The old Claps vs Craps discussion. Some games he is unbeatable, the next, how does he win anything.

    • @droggellord
      @droggellord 3 дня назад

      For you it's Bausen, Thebaus, Solo Bolo Master or Messi

    • @Jelonazo
      @Jelonazo 3 дня назад

      Blasphemy

    • @gdaxolotl8510
      @gdaxolotl8510 3 дня назад

      ​@@Jelonazo Bausphemy

  • @ardechey
    @ardechey 3 дня назад

    Baus needs to do what that American chess player was accused of and have Caedrel buzzing him everytime he needs to back off or signal him something incognito

  • @KristinaBlabla
    @KristinaBlabla 3 дня назад

    he's not that stupid to not ask/read/inquire/negotiate/re-negotiate/re-read a contract is he? oh wait xD

  • @heavylton5099
    @heavylton5099 3 дня назад

    larssen viktor >>>>>

  • @bleedingbird8085
    @bleedingbird8085 3 дня назад

    he sad was and that is all u need 2 know about humanoid

  • @arias1610
    @arias1610 4 дня назад

    ye, I would say that Velja is actually like best Nidalee EU and it really surprised me when I saw how good he is on that champ, but that’s not enough in league.

  • @PickleSnot
    @PickleSnot 4 дня назад

    It's funny how Rekkless is the least Rekkless player on the team. 2 deaths? My god... lol

  • @curza6373
    @curza6373 4 дня назад

    For those who dont know: It is obviously a joke. Since last year every time someone trolls or plays badly we say Melzhet is gonna punish him with a belt

  • @rpvmnh7751
    @rpvmnh7751 4 дня назад

    yike in 1 year did better than elyoya in 4 years

    • @nestorlasala8118
      @nestorlasala8118 4 дня назад

      ????? XDDDDDDD what are u on my man? Im sorry, if you mean Yoya is worse than yike now, okay. I give you that. But Jesus you cant be comparing having in the team nisky, freskowi, Álvaro or reeker to fking caps, hans sama, Miky... Get outta here Bro xD

    • @Tp-ft1vu
      @Tp-ft1vu 4 дня назад

      Yike has never gotten past group stage in worlds, yoya did

    • @Basto0o
      @Basto0o 4 дня назад

      Yoya won 3 LECs without G2, very few players can say that. Lets see how does Yike do without Caps and BB

    • @alvarofernandez9345
      @alvarofernandez9345 3 дня назад

      That is why g2 wanted to pay 800k for elyoya before taking yike😂

    • @misterragger2389
      @misterragger2389 3 дня назад

      that's just blatantly false, but whatever

  • @MultiFans
    @MultiFans 4 дня назад

    So Caedrel = A Circus Depressed Loser 🤣

  • @shadowcraftplayer9075
    @shadowcraftplayer9075 4 дня назад

    Man, Baus has clearly the best macro. It's not even close.

  • @themockingjay894
    @themockingjay894 4 дня назад

    They are currently 4-1 with nida jungle I think Neme's bias talking laud here

  • @crispybanana3198
    @crispybanana3198 4 дня назад

    yeah revolving a draft around feast or famine champs is a bad idea

  • @Marlesden
    @Marlesden 4 дня назад

    He's obviously joking about being the voice on the team, if anyone watches Baus they know that. However, they desperately need a voice that was as prominent as Caedrals in the team. Someone has to be the shotcaller. It can't be crownie because he's calls are always "play around me". I don't think Rekkles wants to do that so then it leaves neme and velja

  • @sharpasacueball
    @sharpasacueball 5 дней назад

    So Rekkles a depressed loser lmao

  • @mahiruchan6424
    @mahiruchan6424 5 дней назад

    1v1 them!

  • @ArenDsiire
    @ArenDsiire 5 дней назад

    I know he's joking, he's said himself he's not confident being the shot caller, but I think he does actually make great calls often, particularly in the late game when he's up and confident in his position. The team just aren't familiar enough with his odd champ builds yet to trust him on them, so a lot of the time he's ignored. 😅

    • @sanyadev97
      @sanyadev97 4 дня назад

      I agree. I think the team just doesn't really realise at times how powerful he is until he arrives and takes out 1-2 or even 3 people alone. Maybe if he communicates "we can go in I already have 3 items", they would be able to asess the situation and follow him. sometimes he goes in so blind tho.

  • @Workplaylister
    @Workplaylister 5 дней назад

    You can tell how this team is doomed to fail. Just a publicity stunt

  • @xavmarz755
    @xavmarz755 5 дней назад

    Not much of a situation guy, you're a bit of a drama queen I'd say

  • @SherifNeamatalla
    @SherifNeamatalla 5 дней назад

    wdym lose every game ? they lost like a single nid game when they all trollpicked and velja carries hard on her every time

    • @WonderWorld12391
      @WonderWorld12391 4 дня назад

      no velja is just bad... especially on nidalee... guy could barely get chall let alone play pro...

    • @SherifNeamatalla
      @SherifNeamatalla 4 дня назад

      @ I mean am not following him personally so cant comment on that. But his games on Lilia (and again, nid as far as I remember) he was dominating the whole map. That being said, he still has a long way to go when it comes to team/pro play. I dont think it's as bad as u'r making it to be though 😂

    • @WonderWorld12391
      @WonderWorld12391 4 дня назад

      @@SherifNeamatalla ye i was just ragebaiting i love velja

    • @suna7511
      @suna7511 4 дня назад

      @@WonderWorld12391 he reached top1 chally lmao

    • @SherifNeamatalla
      @SherifNeamatalla 4 дня назад

      @@WonderWorld12391 haha you never know on youtube comments :D I did not know him before los ratones, but I really like his spirit (and I LOVE the Velja/Baus dynamic). He's still technically a "noob pro player", but damn he's growing so fast and I can see him being the next EU jgl in a couple years.

  • @calvinleonardi4916
    @calvinleonardi4916 5 дней назад

    it's because baus always want to farm lmao no valid reason in his opinion when they had a talk caedral and neme were right at that time