Nope..Africa does. As we've seen with Hong Kong and Tibet and Taiwan...the CCP will treat us exactly how our precious colonial overlords did and destroy our country while they reap the benefits.
@@talyah23 Pffff, every country in the world has a territory that is not part of it by choice at the beginning. For example, Hawaii was annexation by the U.S. in 1898 against its will. At that same moment, Hong Kong, Tibet and Taiwan had been part of China for more than 100 years. Does that mean all nations should reject doing business with the U.S. due to what happened in Hawaii?
Jealous- stir- divide. If China’s investment in Africa is “debt trap” please EU, make the 300 bn you plan to throw in gift rather than debt trap(investment). Don’t be a hypocrite pls.
What do you think the IMF, World Bank, and various "Development Banks" are all about? Exactly, debt traps. That's how the west has been operating for decades.
Because African countries don't benefit. When does China ever do right by other countries? Why would any countries in Africa want to be like Tibet or Taiwan or Hong Kong?? We don't want CCP overlords thanks.
China is is using Africans corrupt leader to put there Countries in depth trap where China is slowly recognizing Africa in the same way the British colonized India.
I am perfectly fine with DW critiquing the negatives that resulted from the exchanges between China and Africa coalitions. But I have been very uncomfortable with how this narrative is 'carefully' structured in portraying the 'hidden' and 'underlining' intention of the Chinese or CCP, like an 'unspoken act of evil'. One thing to start: the critic of Mandarin Chinese as a language, compared to French, requires one to learn history and culture instead of linguistic knowledge only. While I myself have the utmost respect for all languages around the world, including African and Native American languages, but to say one is this and the other is that, how insensitive and ignorant! This is bordering racism. Chinese, like many Asian languages, have often phrases and idioms (Chengyu) embedded that require an understanding of history and past events. (ex. 完璧歸趙 Literal translates to 'Return Jade to Zhao'. If you know history, you then know it means to return something to its rightful owner.) So how can you learn Chinese without knowing its culture and history? This suggestive narration of an underlining 'cultural genocide' of Africa is absurd. And pardon my frankness, of all countries, Europe is the least in the position to criticize another for cultural genocide of Africa.
You have just realized that the media is conveniently changing the narrative in order to sabotage an image of a country because of a private agenda. While we all agree China is not an angel from heaven sent to help the rest of the world, it certainly tries to develop a commercial relationship with other african countries. We can also agree that China gets the bigger slice of the pie but that doesn't mean that Africans aren't getting theirs, specially if you consider in the las 200 years what Europeans natiions have been doing to african nations, then you realized that this is a way better deal than what the "former masters" provided.
@@jimwu955 Do you know what happened during colonization? China is mainly paying for infrastructure projects up front, the African states then owe the money to China. China doesn't gain any political leverage (apart from the effects the debt has on future relations), they don't oppress the native population, and they don't literally kidnap and enslave the people living there. This really isn't comparable, as China's goal is that both the African countries and China profit from these recent investments
When it comes to the relationship with a non-white country, western countries don’t use the word “mutual”. Mutual respect, mutual understanding and mutual benefit are beyond their comprehension.
Respect has been there at the beginning but after so many let downs and so much corruption there can be mutual interest or benefit and the west says it - and if everything goes well the lost respect can be earned back. Don’t forget that the west also gives foreign aid (free money) to those countries where as China only gives loans.. there is no comparison really!
@@remi_gio There are no freebies in this world. To accept a foreign aid, the developing country must commit to western-style political reform (to elect a government ‘endorsed’ by the aid-giver) and to economic reform so that western monopolies could enter the country. The consequence of not listening to its western giver is western military intervention to topple the government.
@@ttc1618 That’s a bunch of lies you just wrote! Of course there has to be some accountability to have certainty that the aid reaches and benefits the people, not the corrupt politicians. That’s why there have to be a mechanism to verify how the money is spent. I also give to charity and I like to know where the money goes - that’s normal! China would rather give loans and corrupt politicians without any accountability - buying political capital and doesn’t care about the population. Which one is better in your ‘expert’ opinion? If you don’t understand democracy and diplomacy that betters the lives of people then you should study a bit more. China’s loans come with strings attached that don’t benefit anyone apart from those at the top. We see this pattern with belt and road initiative so there is also evidence. B1M fund in Malaysia, dam project there… port in Sri Lanka… suddenly a reform to hold those in power accountable and without debt sounds 10 times better than China grab of territory, infrastructure and creating debt trap for poor countries.
@@remi_gio yes the loan do benefits the people, infrastructure such as port, railways, bridges and road so benefits the people as whole what doesn't benefits the people is Western aids that has been going on for decades, how do we know? Because they still come to china for investment
Well of course. It shakes up the status quo that have been around for a while. Of course everyone would be nervous and apprehensive. Do not forget why everyone learned English the first time.
When considering history, USA and European Countries have never, dealt with Africa in a respectful way. Many Africans are poor and have died because of the West. Although not perfect, China has approached relations with Africa in a way more professional manner than the West, where Africa can actually benefit.
More "professional" like snatching the only international airport in Uganda, or ports, or bugging the governmental buildings the Chinese built in Africa?
@@DarxKies Not sure if read my whole comment, but i did say "although not perfect" If you think you can compare the monstrosities between the West and China, then you need to go take another history course.
Ah yes, Europeans colonized nearly 200 years ago, therefore it is fine for China to colonuze now! You aren't fooling any Africans with this, they see first hand the abuses at the hands of these Chinese corporations. At least Europe has tried to make up for their past wrongs with aid...
It is win-win. China and Africans are gains. It is Africa asks China to invest in Africa. China hopes Africa can replace the EU , when they become rich and buy Chinese products
Hahaha, I like the comments below… I mean seriously “what the west in particular the US has done/built/accomplished in Africa”? You must be joking or seriously ill ….
This is ridiculous. When you learn a new language, of course, you need to know their culture, if you don't, how can you understand what they are talking. This is the same when I learned English, we have English culture classes; when I learned French, the training school held seminars to introduce French culture from time to time, too. Just stop picking bones from an egg. People.
When I learned English as a kid in China, we learned about the festivals, food, customs, songs, sports, etc in the UK and the US; a little bit older as teenagers we watched American movies and TV series in the original English sound tracks, learned to sing American pop songs, learned to recite the great speeches made by American statesmen in history. All these were encouraged as wonderful cultural exchanges in China, and the Americans and British were enthusiastic about promoting all these. But according to those same Westerners, when people from other parts of the world learn Chinese, all these cultural exchange stuff sudden become China's evil conspiracy...
@@joshuathomas668 One of the main source from which the Chinese in the 1980s-2000s learned English at a more advanced level was the Voice of America, which, as you know, was officially run by the US government to serve cold war ideological output purpose.
@@mattmiller2842 One of the main source from which the Chinese in the 1980s-2000s learned English at a more advanced level was the Voice of America, which, as you know, was officially run by the US government to serve cold war ideological output purpose.
Whatever it is, a stronger China means a stronger Africa and vice versa. Don't believe me? How did Africa fair during the few hundred years of white colonial rule? Compare that with the fast rates of modernisation and improvement in life quality just within the past 3 to 4 decades, coincidently this was the same time China started to modernise. We often forget, China had almost the same level of development and economic size to Africa less than half a century ago. If i was an African leader, I'd be knocking on China's door. Why on earth would i look to the Americans who openly exploit using force, or my previous colonial masters. Logic sometimes is hard to accept, especially if you're a declining superpower.
As someone who grew up in China and knows the Chinese mentality, that help isn't for free or out of good will. The CCP *will* get their pound of flesh from Africa. China has tapped out their own cheap labour force, so Africa is the next best place to extract vast amounts of cheap human labour. It's a form of control via economic growth - and that same greed that destroyed China's ecosystems and animals will befall Africa. Not to mention they'll gain control of your politicians too. It's already happening in some countries around the world. You're switching to a new master - white men were obvious about exploiting Africa, but the Chinese will do it with a smile and velvet gloves hiding an iron fist.
@@zoeydeu2261 If you grow up in China, you will know that China has 1.4 billion Chinese people and enough labor force. In addition, where did you grow up in China?
@@zoeydeu2261 If you don't know China, don't slander China. You haven't lived in China. You're not qualified to comment on China. China has never colonized Africa, but what about some European countries?
its funny to see that it took a China for the western countries to take Africa serious. They have failed that in the last 40 years. So at least in that point of view its a good thing
Not 40 years. The Western colonizers had 200 years (from 18th to 20th Centuries) to do something good for Africa, but they were not interested because they did not get much benefit from Africa.
@@wangeliswangelis1464 You sound mad. Anyway, China wants countries to play by its rules, and attempts to punish them if not. Often economic sanctions if a country gives a prestigious award to someone unpopular with the CCP (Norway), inquires into a politically sensitive topic (Australia and corona origins), acknowledges Taiwan (Lithuania), personal sanctions if members of a government formally acknowledges human rights issues at the hands of the CCP (Canada), etc.
EU came to Africa hundreds of years ago, but the African still lived in stone age, until the coming of Chinese with roads, bridges, trains, power plants, tap water and all the morden live styles.
It doesn't benefit Germany/Nato/ American allies, that's the real problem. We're not dumb enough to actually believe dw cares whether this benefits Africa or not.
Ummmm.... I've studied Spanish in high school, Japanese in university, and Arabic recently. It's normal for the instructor to share their home country's history and culture. I am sure that when foreigners teacher their language in China, they would share their history and culture within the class
While both sides are benefits tremendously from their good relationship, Africa definitely benefits much more simply because its much lower developing level. This is exactly the same as US-China relationship in past 4 decades. According to one study, US has the 2/3 of the total benefits while China has the 1/3. It especially favors US at the beginning. But it helps China much more since it started from the very bottom while US was always at the top.
The founders of the US stole a lot from all other cultures, and then turned on them. I hope this relationship is better. Africa needs better relations with the world.
If Western countries think that China’s investment is problematic, you can provide better conditions for investment in the African continent. We Chinese very much hope to see more people invest in developing countries.
Nope, China is the evil as DW say. The western countries can't tolerate China's rise, especially this is a country they've raped, and done far more than genocide in 19th and 20th century.
Europe already did make a plan for a better solution to chinas Silk Road. Don’t know what USA is doing. You probobly paid by Chinese government to say those things here in English
@@MrWise23 anyone has conscience would call this a fair comment rather than a paid comment by some countries government. Don't you think so? Em.... seems like a no to me
@@MrWise23 According to your logic, all comments that do not promote European and American behavior are paid? Plans are not equal to actions. Europe and the United States are well-documented about their actions on the African continent during the colonial period and now. If you want to endorse Europe and the United States, then encourage them to take more practical and positive actions instead of talking about them.
@@pawpanda8443 I was going to explain my answer but didn’t want to spend 15 min on big explanation so just posted it without explaining. People are lazy these days 🤷🏼. The comments above are very negative about Europe and USA and you say I am wrong cause of being negative about China? People complaining about Europe and the west almost forget that in Russia or China as a citizen you are not allowed to criticize at all. Most of your freedom is gone and even tho politicians lie in every country the lies and online censorship they put out in country’s like China are from a whole new level.
Andrew is funny. When I learned English, I was also taught about US festival and history. It is still the case of English studying in China.But we chinese never claim is one kind of culture export. Come on, could you imagine one English learner knows nothing about UK and US?
Same in Europe when I learnt German and English. We would learn songs, geography, politics, history, talk about customs etc. For special holidays we would try to cook their food. But he compared it to learning French and maybe that would be different in his country cause it's an official language in several African countries so it might be too many to focus on and Africa's relationship with France is complicated due to colonialism.
No point talking about who benefits the most. A mutually beneficial relationship is all we need. It’s a common sense among Chinese. I don’t know why it’s so hard for the western people to understand. Maybe the western people still believe Africans are not even capable of negotiating a fair business deal. How racist is it?
West in general walked away from sub Saharan Africa after the collapse of colonialism. More accurately those not worth plundering for their resources or used as safari destinations were abandoned. As bad as the west if not worse are the oil rich nations of the north. US trillions and weapons poured into Israel as both nations supported apartheid is particularly cruel IMO.
Another day, another China bashing video from DW. I am learning Korean and it is perfectly normal for a textbook and language class to teach you about the history, culture, music and festivals. Quite pathetic fear mongering.
Partner with us Asians we only care about money and success. We don’t care about politics . We all have a commonality = money/success. Good luck my African Brothers . 🇰🇭
Not all Asians but yes Chinese and Philippinos have shown that they have the ability to treat us as equals. How are Africans viewed in Cambodia? Is it safe for visits?
IMF and the world bank never did anything good for developing countries but offer loans that were impossible to pay off as they contained clauses that would raise interest rates without ceilings at any point in time.
Yup most people don't know about the SAP conditions that starved a country of investment if they didn't agree to spend itv in a way that benefits the west.
@@36G I absolutely agree. Every country the IMF and world bank that's has lent money to is still dirt poor while countries China has lent money to are becoming more economically independent and industrialized. The west never wanted countries to gain that much economic power and they thought China was going to be a western dog forever.
@@mikeyu5004 true they are scared of how much profit they'd lose if they had to actually pay Africans a fair price for their resources. Did you see how fast France scrambled and called in their puppet African leaders when Africans made their free trade pact to ditch the Central African Franc? Look it up it's hilarious. If it wasn't for their old colonies France would have lost all its influence on Africans. Even more terrifying for them is that China helped the Africans facilitate the deal.
@@36G I don't know much about the trade pacts in Africa but I have no doubts countries like France don't want Africa to have a piece of their own cake. Having grown up in the west they don't teach or talk about these private trade details in the public for a reason.
@@36G many Africans in the west just want to make a living and are easily distracted with making easy money as it's a trap for many uneducated immigrants.
Who has benefited the most? This is less important to know but the most important question is know a part of China, who has this capacity to invest so much money to Africa to improve the infrastructure and help to develop our country
I once drove through a industrial zone in Gauteng, South Africa, and noticed an entire Chinese dominated block, with Mandarin banners across the road and Chinese workers building structures. Chinese workers in retail stores. Now how is that benefiting Africans. The only benefit is the cheap often junk goods that's on sale. Those benefits are working only one way and that's in China's favour. Sign up to Belt and Road at your own peril as they often demand that the infrastructure they supposedly invest is used as collateral. If you cannot service the China loans, they simply take ownership of the infrastructure. That benefits with a gun to your head.
@@youngz13o any contract has at least two parties in agreement; however such agreement may not necessary take place between parties of equal strength - subliminal dominance of power can come into play. Especially when the weaker party may agree under terms that ordinarily would not be acceptable. Such as agreeing to put up as collateral national interest key point assests; I.e. a airport, harbour, agricultural land, etc. The stronger party in agreement approaches the weaker party with a smile, promises to invest in a joint effort benefiting both parties. However, the agreement has a sting in the tail; it's in fact a 'loaded' agreement, which has its goal (development), but that goal masks the true goal, which is to build a claim (debit) over the weaker party setup so the weaker party inevitably would fail. The real goal is achieved; the collateral underpinning the agreement. The stronger party is using a dead standard business contract as a weapon. Much more effective and less costly than Putins method. It's the Chinese way - 'gentle quiet aggression'. Not a shot fired but dead done. There are already a number of examples in Africa and elsewhere. So my friend there's no where to hide, Belt & Road serves one aim dominance through trade. There are enough weak governments out there willing to sign away the wealth of nations for personal gain for China to make a real killing.
Interesting mentality: how can you teach a language without linking it to some basic facts about culture and history of the country? Isn't it a good thing to learn such things about another country?
Wow the delusions run high here. We want no part of the CCP. The whole world knows how miserable the people of China are under that fascist regime. Not to mention the Uiygers, and those oppressed by the CCP in Tibet, Taiwan and Hong Kong. No thanks. Love a free South Africa
@@talyah23 People all over the world know how miserable the Chinese people are, but except for Chinese like me. I like my government, and I don’t think it’s a bad government to make their country and people better,no matter what way.But look at yourself and ignore your own development for the sake of defamation without evidence. China is constantly developing, and your country is constantly declining
I agree that Africa is and will be one of the key power in humanity advances and achievements in the multi-polarized global community, whether certain countries like it or not.
possibly, though the europeans colonised mostly for tactical reasons or for prestige. except Belgium in the Congo. If the europeans could have got more out of africa they would have, china can get allot out of africa
It is good for young African to learn the culture of China as it is one of the countries that it's culture is well preserved. The African-China cooperation have shown the development road, agriculture, building etc. At least it is better than western countries colonies 🤣🤣.
I guess you do not mind being monitored by the state 24/7. Having to guard against saying anything publically that may offend your great leader. Pathetic.
@@thusspokezarathustra maybe I should not write as you instead of westerner 😀. You just refer to the treatment of Asian American in US, can you still deny that racist doesn't exist?
China better than America. American people always underestimate Asian and African people. America came with power hegemony, China come with economi challenge, but African have be careful because everything have a risk. I choose have USD 1 million with USD 1 million debt than USD 10 with USD 5 debt, because money can give challenge for better life.
@@sandman6088 oh my lord, u are def an american, who claims africa is a country. U think the whole world still in ancient times? China is now the most dominant economy in the world. I'm not even Chinese and I still know
When will DW do a story titled "German Colonization of Burundi, Rwanda, Tanzania, Namibia, Cameroon, Gabon, Congo, Central African Republic, Chad, Nigeria, Togo, Ghana: Who benefits most?"
Agreed, the west has failed its duty to support former colonies. I think it's a very fair criticism, and a responsibility we bear. If China embarrasses us in Africa, it will be a huge symbolic shift of power and influence.
@@greyfells2829 You're 100% correct. Can't ignore history. Millions have died over the years of a one way benficial approach the West has had with Africa.
Actually, it is a good thing for Africa to diversify the kind of countries that invest in the continent. We know that Western countries that invest in Africa want to push for homosexuality, feminism, human rights etc. On the other hand, Chinese want to push for infrastructural development without necessarily influencing the socio-political dynamics of the African country. Other countries like Japanese, Russia, India etc. (if they choose to invest in Africa) will introduce a new angle of development beyond infrastructure, homosexuality, gender equality etc. So this mix will provide a good balance for accelerated growth and development in Africa.
so human rights are bad now or what? China is not influencing? Are you high? Coercing the African countries signing some papers that China is not committing genocide while basically destroying the economy of the African countries with Chinese debt traps?
@@DarxKies nah they are not bad but how are u gonna have human right when whole country is starving and is ravaged by a virus???? I mean idk why u americans cant see that china has done more good then bad i whould rather have china as a global supper power then hypocritical eu and us
@@nemanjacvjetkovic5583 You mean the virus that comes from the China where the CCP tried to cover it up and now killed millions world wide? More good than bad? The CCP? Are you high? Wumao. Your governments runs concentration camps in 2021.
As someone who grew up in China and knows their mentality, the Chinese government's venture into Africa isn't out of good will, but to exploit cheap labour, natural African resources, using their votes to gain advantage, one way Chinese cultural exportation and to build infrastructure to aid in transporting those goods. They aren't doing it for free to help Africa, Chinese people love money, and they will get their money's worth in the end - which could be political control, suppression of freedom of speech, failing to repay debt will result in privatisation of federal/state utilities which could drive up prices of electricity/internet/phone/water/food/education, destroying native African ecosystems and animals for financial gain, higher pollution via inefficient methods of power production that will lead to deaths from respiratory issues, trade wars if an African country doesn't comply with CCP demands, purchasing and control of large amounts of land making it too expensive for locals to buy land, setting up poor or lax regulations that can lead to harm in the future, and much more. These are issues already faced by countries that had to deal with China for decades.
@@thecomment9489 Absolutely nothing. If you want to learn Chinese culture and the language then you have to go to Taiwan. The CCP butchered the Chinese language and destroyed its culture.
@@DarxKies LOL. Chinese language learning doesn't require you to visit Taiwan. There is whole online world available and Chinese language courses are available in probably most major countries of the world. CCP preserved the Chinese language and culture and that is why about 30-50 million people are learning it as their second or foreign language.
Another useless and discredited piece from DW - When Africa deals with West who benefits ? Is it not the West ? Hypocritical stance yet again - Why don't you level the field by making a piece on Africa's relationship with the West and who benefits ? huh ?
The real question is who is benefiting the lease and it is the old colonialist the US and the Europeans. They realize that days of their exploitation is over.
Meanwhile, the US their allies continue to criticise China, while NOT offering any investments to Africa. Look at how infrastructure in Nigeria has improved because of Chinese investments. What exactly has western countries done for them? It’s priceless really.
"who benefit the most?" -- easy answer, out of the two countries, the richest one will benefit the most. Note, this does not apply to China Africa relations only.
Africa is richer in resources but i believe. Hina will win that war. Bc they kill their own ppl. Africa will be set up... Sadly... Do not allow it. Africa has been raped enough
2:10 There is a Clip that I Strongly disagree. (The interviewee) Andrew argued that the Chinese school orchestrated the course of Chinese language, by teaching Chinese history or Chinese Poems, so as to implant culture influence to the learners like him. And he expressed that he would be happy enough ONLY to know communication language rather than poems. The fact is that for all pupils in China, the very first lesson of a Chinese textbook starts with a classic poem. For pupils entering a elementary school, it is a poem called The Goose (鹅) Which was written around 650 AD; on the same semester pupil will have to meet a few sentences collected from Analects (论语) which is a composition of Confucius' speech back to 2400 years ago. Toddlers were often taught the Three Character Classic (三字经) in the kindergarten, which was probably drafted during 13th Century AD. Unsurprisingly, starting with the Classic sounds odd to other language users. My explanation is that because Chinese as a written language didn't evolve too much in span of its history. Besides, knowing origin or etymology of characters, could render a reader quick interpretation of the meaning, even if a phrase he may never heard --- Chinese is a logogram language that a character represent one or several meanings. So understanding and reciting classic literatures as an assistance to remember and wield the Art of Chinese, are always part of Chinese learning, no matter today or 100 years ago, or 1,000 years ago. As a reference, Chinese textbooks for senior school in Taiwan possesses over a third of courses in classic readings. Similar it is in PRC. So, when a teacher wants his/her student understanding something from ancient, inevitably he/she has to talk about its background. Just like if someone is going to talk about Trojan Horse, please imagine He avoids to mention anything about the Greeks. Having said that, I could understand that learning the classics is painstaking and there will be resistance (Just as my child who always says I dont know after being questioned to interpret). Textbook and course had better tailor to fit second language learners typically taking it as a working language.
Chinese 'development deals' can result in China laying claim to strategic state assets such in the case of Kenya, which faces the possibly losing control over its port, Mobasa, because of difficulties repaying a Chinese loan. That's possibly why they've called it "Belt and Road" - if you dare fail, China gives you a real wallop with its 'belt's and 'tosses' into the 'road'. Sounds like a deal Africa should be thinking twice about.
Don't all do the same? If you can't pay the debt you lose some property of yours. And you usually need to meet some requirements or to agree on some conditions to be given the loan.
@@БорисСоловьев-я2ю for many decades the US, Europe, IMF and WB have provided development funding to Africa and despite the fact that much of those development loans never benefited those issuing loans, these states and development organizations do not demand African states give up sovereign territory or assets to compensate. Which brings into question the motives surrounding Chinese development funding.
@@thusspokezarathustra Same goes for Russia who wrote off 20 billion dollar of african debts to Soviet Union. But it's something to do with politics. Usually banks take your property if you can't pay the debt anywhere in the world afaik. Africa is probably a special case, it's more like a humanitarian aid than a commercial loan(though there're always some political agreements behind the debts we probably don't know of). China just makes it 100% commercial.
@@thusspokezarathustra well, the US just literally took the a piece of land and built a military base on it. Was it a part of loans? You will never know.
@@JR-vc4gm possibly its defence against rogue states that have killed their own people? Remember Tiananmen Square? Chinese were massacred simply because they questioned the benefits of Communism and decided Democracy was a better system - which it certainly is. To live in state which monitors your private and public life 24/7 is a hellish state. I guess you will not agree - well I understand you cannot do otherwise...
For now. Later they'll realise how the CCP will trap them into debt traps like literally every poor nations they targeted before. But I don't blame them as the western countries aren't providing any alternatives
@@anshumaanphukan4388that government matters!!! We all wanna see All CHILD in Africa not eating MUD and unhealthy meals ANYMORE! it's cost for something return for goods, for COMFORT ZONES you need to pay for it IF YOU CANNOT work on it by SELF!!!
@@kimienick6721 I know they are screwed anyways so they may not have any other options. Only time will tell how how this turns out. If it will genuinely helping them, then obviously it's amazing. But I'm still sceptical
@@anshumaanphukan4388 easy to made human understand, if you wanna connection you need pay INTERNET! The more high you pay the more benefit and BIG DATA YOU GET, same on this, the more land used the more BENEFITS returned....
NATO and the United States have become closed minded (living in a small bubble concerned only with inside their realm) and have literally ignored the pleas from these small developing countries to help them grow. BIG MISTAKE! Big! We have a scene in the last eight years a growth at an alarming rate of Dictatorships in Africa, funded and encouraged by Russia.
Right because Chinese imperialism is so great. Look how far East Turkestan got after it was occupied by the CCP. Now they have concentration camps. Isn't that wonderful?
Eid should be declared public holiday in Europe. And there should be freedom of choice so if a woman wants to wear veil it should be allowed but that basic freedom in many European countries is being denied.
Last time I check, Africa and Western countries had a wonderful slaving trading relationship prosperous for a few hundred years. I am sure it was much better for the Africans.
I'm sure DW misses out in mentioning that the Goethe institute courses in German not only teaches language, but also the culture as well. I seriously don't see why this is seen as negative in western mainstream press.
The CCP's venture into Africa isn't out of good will, but to exploit cheap labour, raid natural African resources, use African votes to gain geopolitical advantage, one way Chinese cultural exportation & to build infrastructure to aid in transporting those natural resources/importing goods to Africa. They aren't doing it for free to help Africa, Chinese people love money, and they will get more than their money's worth in the end - which could be political control, suppression of freedom of speech, countries that fail to repay debt will result in privatisation of federal/state utilities which could drive up prices of electricity/internet/phone/water/food/education, destroying native African ecosystems and animals for financial gain, higher pollution via inefficient methods of power production that will lead to deaths from respiratory issues, trade wars if an African country doesn't comply, purchasing and control of large amounts of land making it too expensive for locals to buy land, setting up poor or lax regulations that can lead to harm in the future, and much more. These are issues already faced by countries that had to deal with China for decades - I speak from experience! Be careful Africa!
So much is talked about and analyzed about the China-Africa relationship which includes among other issues social-cultural aspect of it. What l have failed to hear how China is blending into African society. African s are busy learning Chinese languages in Africa & China but haven't heard Chinese doing the same. How come? Can anybody explain that to me?
They have actually. Since many come to Africa to work for Chinese corporations many learn the local dialect marry local women, join/build communities and some ( a negligible amount) even join tribes. It's not all good obviously but their not raping women and butchering men like the Europeans did.
So why has English become the dominant language of the world then? Has many native Anglo speakers attempt to learn Chinese or Swahili or any other languages for that matter? Virtually none. Why? Because Britain was the first country to be industrialised which in turn made it the world’s first superpower thus enabling it to colonise virtually the whole world! Btw speaking a foreign language is an asset not a liability and the Chinese should feel inferior for being able to speak any native African languages or any other languages like English or even French not superior unlike many africans! 😅
The “debt-trap” theory is concocted by Brahma Chellaney, an Indian geopolitical strategist. The “debt-trap” theory is concocted by Indians, and popularized by Americans. They concoct this theory to demonize China, Chinese and BRI projects/loans. India, US, along with EU, fear losing their control over other countries which may result from these projects. Such fears are based on their selfish and geopolitical interests. However, people from all over the world, especially from developing countries have acknowledged the needs and the actual benefits of these projects/loans. They know from their first-hand experience that there is no debt-trap. Academics and researchers have reviewed these projects, and have debunked the debt-trap theory.
The salaries of the 9 directors of Apple are equivalent to the salaries of 100,000 Chinese workers in the assembly line of Apple. Is it OK this relationship.
The best thing for African countries is to be wary of their relationship with Chinese and western countries alike. The Chinese have their best interest at heart, so don’t expect too much from them in the future. You can calibrate with them, so both parties benefit, but keep your eyes and ears wide open and sleep with one eye open. The African people have to do all the heavy lifting. Political transparency and accountability is a must if they want to be at the top of the world stage and in every field. African countries must draw a long-term economic strategy that depends on their local labor and innovation by improving and developing the training and education of their youth. Or else they will not get the respect they deserve from the EAST or the WEST. It would be best to become the master of your destiny. or neo-colonialism is just around the corner.
Likewise when Africans learn English or French from their colonial teachers, they were being made into one of them too, don't they, ...according to the video? Also there were Western churches in Africa, and Africans were converted into Catholics, into a religion of foreign origin? Furthermore, they were made to dress like Europeans, and eat Western style of food... African watched Western movies and TV programs, listened to Western songs and do pop dances. Today with China invests in Africa, the people had the opportunities to expose to some elements of Chinese culture, like what they had previously with the English and the French.
The real question is who benefits the least? Obviously US and Europe.
Nope..Africa does. As we've seen with Hong Kong and Tibet and Taiwan...the CCP will treat us exactly how our precious colonial overlords did and destroy our country while they reap the benefits.
@@talyah23 Hong Kong and Tibet and Taiwan are all part of China, Africa is not
@@cSwDamian they are not part of China by choice...are serious? Do you even know the politics of each if them?
@@talyah23 Pffff, every country in the world has a territory that is not part of it by choice at the beginning. For example, Hawaii was annexation by the U.S. in 1898 against its will. At that same moment, Hong Kong, Tibet and Taiwan had been part of China for more than 100 years. Does that mean all nations should reject doing business with the U.S. due to what happened in Hawaii?
@@talyah23 They are a part of China "by choice" just like Catalunia is part of Spain "by choice", what are you on about?
Did all them western media asked these types of questions when the West was plundering (not invest, plunder) Africa?
Shuu! Only talking bad about china is allowed in here.
Haaaaaaa
Good question. Now that is china. Africa must sign a contract 😂😂😂.
Jealous- stir- divide. If China’s investment in Africa is “debt trap” please EU, make the 300 bn you plan to throw in gift rather than debt trap(investment). Don’t be a hypocrite pls.
What do you think the IMF, World Bank, and various "Development Banks" are all about? Exactly, debt traps. That's how the west has been operating for decades.
if they both benefit, it doesn't matter who benefits most.
Because African countries don't benefit. When does China ever do right by other countries? Why would any countries in Africa want to be like Tibet or Taiwan or Hong Kong?? We don't want CCP overlords thanks.
@@talyah23 note the first word of my sentence is "if".
@@talyah23 Do USA and EU make a loss while trading with any nation in the world? Don't be naive, nobody will do business which incurs losses!
China is is using Africans corrupt leader to put there Countries in depth trap where China is slowly recognizing Africa in the same way the British colonized India.
@@quirkframework7814 don't be a fool, they enforced their way and indias barely could resist to them. That's how the brits colonized India.
I am perfectly fine with DW critiquing the negatives that resulted from the exchanges between China and Africa coalitions. But I have been very uncomfortable with how this narrative is 'carefully' structured in portraying the 'hidden' and 'underlining' intention of the Chinese or CCP, like an 'unspoken act of evil'.
One thing to start: the critic of Mandarin Chinese as a language, compared to French, requires one to learn history and culture instead of linguistic knowledge only.
While I myself have the utmost respect for all languages around the world, including African and Native American languages, but to say one is this and the other is that, how insensitive and ignorant! This is bordering racism.
Chinese, like many Asian languages, have often phrases and idioms (Chengyu) embedded that require an understanding of history and past events. (ex. 完璧歸趙 Literal translates to 'Return Jade to Zhao'. If you know history, you then know it means to return something to its rightful owner.) So how can you learn Chinese without knowing its culture and history? This suggestive narration of an underlining 'cultural genocide' of Africa is absurd. And pardon my frankness, of all countries, Europe is the least in the position to criticize another for cultural genocide of Africa.
You have just realized that the media is conveniently changing the narrative in order to sabotage an image of a country because of a private agenda.
While we all agree China is not an angel from heaven sent to help the rest of the world, it certainly tries to develop a commercial relationship with other african countries. We can also agree that China gets the bigger slice of the pie but that doesn't mean that Africans aren't getting theirs, specially if you consider in the las 200 years what Europeans natiions have been doing to african nations, then you realized that this is a way better deal than what the "former masters" provided.
host:”no only financial means.”
what things dose she want to imply?
obviously,China have no intention of colonizing Africa like EU used to do.
I hate Africans who are being used as stoges.
@@jimwu955 Why do you think so?
@@jimwu955 Do you know what happened during colonization? China is mainly paying for infrastructure projects up front, the African states then owe the money to China. China doesn't gain any political leverage (apart from the effects the debt has on future relations), they don't oppress the native population, and they don't literally kidnap and enslave the people living there. This really isn't comparable, as China's goal is that both the African countries and China profit from these recent investments
When it comes to the relationship with a non-white country, western countries don’t use the word “mutual”. Mutual respect, mutual understanding and mutual benefit are beyond their comprehension.
Respect has been there at the beginning but after so many let downs and so much corruption there can be mutual interest or benefit and the west says it - and if everything goes well the lost respect can be earned back.
Don’t forget that the west also gives foreign aid (free money) to those countries where as China only gives loans.. there is no comparison really!
@@remi_gio There are no freebies in this world. To accept a foreign aid, the developing country must commit to western-style political reform (to elect a government ‘endorsed’ by the aid-giver) and to economic reform so that western monopolies could enter the country. The consequence of not listening to its western giver is western military intervention to topple the government.
@@ttc1618 That’s a bunch of lies you just wrote! Of course there has to be some accountability to have certainty that the aid reaches and benefits the people, not the corrupt politicians. That’s why there have to be a mechanism to verify how the money is spent. I also give to charity and I like to know where the money goes - that’s normal! China would rather give loans and corrupt politicians without any accountability - buying political capital and doesn’t care about the population. Which one is better in your ‘expert’ opinion? If you don’t understand democracy and diplomacy that betters the lives of people then you should study a bit more. China’s loans come with strings attached that don’t benefit anyone apart from those at the top. We see this pattern with belt and road initiative so there is also evidence. B1M fund in Malaysia, dam project there… port in Sri Lanka… suddenly a reform to hold those in power accountable and without debt sounds 10 times better than China grab of territory, infrastructure and creating debt trap for poor countries.
@@remi_gio so far as i can remember Chinese investment still very much welcome and indeed change the country, cant say the same for western aid
@@remi_gio yes the loan do benefits the people, infrastructure such as port, railways, bridges and road so benefits the people as whole what doesn't benefits the people is Western aids that has been going on for decades, how do we know? Because they still come to china for investment
If the whole world talks in English, no one gets hurt. It hurts if some people learn Chinese for better opportunity . jealous western media 😒
Says a musalman from india
Agreed. It is completely normal to learn about the culture when learning a language.
Well of course.
It shakes up the status quo that have been around for a while. Of course everyone would be nervous and apprehensive.
Do not forget why everyone learned English the first time.
When considering history, USA and European Countries have never, dealt with Africa in a respectful way. Many Africans are poor and have died because of the West. Although not perfect, China has approached relations with Africa in a way more professional manner than the West, where Africa can actually benefit.
More "professional" like snatching the only international airport in Uganda, or ports, or bugging the governmental buildings the Chinese built in Africa?
@@DarxKies yeaa thats much more respectful then bombing and invading country for oil
China went to Africa to rebuild the country after being robbed and slaved by the West for century
@@DarxKies Not sure if read my whole comment, but i did say "although not perfect" If you think you can compare the monstrosities between the West and China, then you need to go take another history course.
Ah yes, Europeans colonized nearly 200 years ago, therefore it is fine for China to colonuze now! You aren't fooling any Africans with this, they see first hand the abuses at the hands of these Chinese corporations. At least Europe has tried to make up for their past wrongs with aid...
It is win-win. China and Africans are gains.
It is Africa asks China to invest in Africa. China hopes Africa can replace the EU , when they become rich and buy Chinese products
This makes the most sense to me. Why does China want to get rid of the EU?
@@_VISION. why does the EU want to get rid of everyone?
Can we please have a video about what the West in particular the US has done/built/accomplished in Africa.
you mean the slave trade? funding warlords? supporting coups? what would you like?
Interference
Impose DICTATOR on citizenship in the name of democracy
Hahaha, I like the comments below… I mean seriously “what the west in particular the US has done/built/accomplished in Africa”? You must be joking or seriously ill ….
Spot on!
This is ridiculous. When you learn a new language, of course, you need to know their culture, if you don't, how can you understand what they are talking. This is the same when I learned English, we have English culture classes; when I learned French, the training school held seminars to introduce French culture from time to time, too. Just stop picking bones from an egg. People.
When I learned English as a kid in China, we learned about the festivals, food, customs, songs, sports, etc in the UK and the US; a little bit older as teenagers we watched American movies and TV series in the original English sound tracks, learned to sing American pop songs, learned to recite the great speeches made by American statesmen in history. All these were encouraged as wonderful cultural exchanges in China, and the Americans and British were enthusiastic about promoting all these. But according to those same Westerners, when people from other parts of the world learn Chinese, all these cultural exchange stuff sudden become China's evil conspiracy...
I know you are right 😊
Is that history and culture filtered by the US government?
@@joshuathomas668 One of the main source from which the Chinese in the 1980s-2000s learned English at a more advanced level was the Voice of America, which, as you know, was officially run by the US government to serve cold war ideological output purpose.
@@mattmiller2842 One of the main source from which the Chinese in the 1980s-2000s learned English at a more advanced level was the Voice of America, which, as you know, was officially run by the US government to serve cold war ideological output purpose.
@@jingyuanchen3426 VOA was created before the cold war in 1942.
Whatever it is, a stronger China means a stronger Africa and vice versa. Don't believe me? How did Africa fair during the few hundred years of white colonial rule? Compare that with the fast rates of modernisation and improvement in life quality just within the past 3 to 4 decades, coincidently this was the same time China started to modernise. We often forget, China had almost the same level of development and economic size to Africa less than half a century ago.
If i was an African leader, I'd be knocking on China's door. Why on earth would i look to the Americans who openly exploit using force, or my previous colonial masters. Logic sometimes is hard to accept, especially if you're a declining superpower.
Exactly. It seems white western countries want China and Africa to remain poor and impoverished.
As someone who grew up in China and knows the Chinese mentality, that help isn't for free or out of good will. The CCP *will* get their pound of flesh from Africa. China has tapped out their own cheap labour force, so Africa is the next best place to extract vast amounts of cheap human labour. It's a form of control via economic growth - and that same greed that destroyed China's ecosystems and animals will befall Africa. Not to mention they'll gain control of your politicians too. It's already happening in some countries around the world. You're switching to a new master - white men were obvious about exploiting Africa, but the Chinese will do it with a smile and velvet gloves hiding an iron fist.
@@zoeydeu2261 Oh, where did you grow up?
Deu isn't really a Chinese surname, unless you're an international student?
@@zoeydeu2261 If you grow up in China, you will know that China has 1.4 billion Chinese people and enough labor force. In addition, where did you grow up in China?
@@zoeydeu2261 If you don't know China, don't slander China. You haven't lived in China. You're not qualified to comment on China. China has never colonized Africa, but what about some European countries?
its funny to see that it took a China for the western countries to take Africa serious. They have failed that in the last 40 years. So at least in that point of view its a good thing
Not 40 years. The Western colonizers had 200 years (from 18th to 20th Centuries) to do something good for Africa, but they were not interested because they did not get much benefit from Africa.
Stand on your foot , forget Europe and China!
I hope that Germany and the European Union will help Africa more instead of talking about who will benefit more from China and Africa.
Europe had hundreds of years to "help" africa, but they did the opposite.
They can not help themselves
How can they help Africa ?
Before that, deb traps they were said and now they are talking about who benefits the most😂😂
Yeah
Because they can't send Africans as slaves to make money anymore, so anybody who wants to help the Africans is a debt trap for the Africans.
A stronger Africa benefits China economically. So, of course China is going to help Africa modernize and become more wealthier.
This will only be true from the CCP's perspective if African countries are compliant with Chinese political wishes.
@@beautanner8409 And what are those alleged political wishes from China? Any evidence to back them up and it is just your delusion?
@@wangeliswangelis1464 You sound mad. Anyway, China wants countries to play by its rules, and attempts to punish them if not. Often economic sanctions if a country gives a prestigious award to someone unpopular with the CCP (Norway), inquires into a politically sensitive topic (Australia and corona origins), acknowledges Taiwan (Lithuania), personal sanctions if members of a government formally acknowledges human rights issues at the hands of the CCP (Canada), etc.
imagine communism become widespread in the continent too.. neo-mao worldwide 👏👏
@@beautanner8409 you are talking about United Snakes, not China
EU came to Africa hundreds of years ago, but the African still lived in stone age, until the coming of Chinese with roads, bridges, trains, power plants, tap water and all the morden live styles.
The revisionism is strong in you.
You mean the people who birth modern civilization lived in the stone age? What crack are you smoking.
Let's take a north African country as example, the west and Libya relation, who benefits the most? 😳😳😥
Like Trump was saying the US troops was "protecting" the oil fields ... smh
The firearm factories for sure
It doesn't benefit Germany/Nato/ American allies, that's the real problem.
We're not dumb enough to actually believe dw cares whether this benefits Africa or not.
Nice to see wise comments like this.
Europe colonisation africa: who benefits Most..?
The western media: Africa. They have democracy now, and use our superior language as their official language.
Do some videos on what EU countries did to Africa. How they colonized them and looted their resources at gunpoint.
That was the past....say the colonialists.
Exactly! They won’t show us that. Hypocrites
Western ideas and media: who will be the winner? / I win, you lose.
Asian ideas: Equality and mutual respect
China: one belt one road
US and Europe: one bomb one road
west is jealous when china and africa cooperate and grow together
Ummmm....
I've studied Spanish in high school, Japanese in university, and Arabic recently. It's normal for the instructor to share their home country's history and culture. I am sure that when foreigners teacher their language in China, they would share their history and culture within the class
A stronger China means a stronger Africa and vice versa.
Love from Russia!
While both sides are benefits tremendously from their good relationship, Africa definitely benefits much more simply because its much lower developing level. This is exactly the same as US-China relationship in past 4 decades. According to one study, US has the 2/3 of the total benefits while China has the 1/3. It especially favors US at the beginning. But it helps China much more since it started from the very bottom while US was always at the top.
The founders of the US stole a lot from all other cultures, and then turned on them. I hope this relationship is better. Africa needs better relations with the world.
Who benefits the most? Not the West for sure, and that's the biggest unspoken concern in this report.
If Western countries think that China’s investment is problematic, you can provide better conditions for investment in the African continent. We Chinese very much hope to see more people invest in developing countries.
Nope, China is the evil as DW say. The western countries can't tolerate China's rise, especially this is a country they've raped, and done far more than genocide in 19th and 20th century.
Europe already did make a plan for a better solution to chinas Silk Road. Don’t know what USA is doing.
You probobly paid by Chinese government to say those things here in English
@@MrWise23 anyone has conscience would call this a fair comment rather than a paid comment by some countries government. Don't you think so? Em.... seems like a no to me
@@MrWise23 According to your logic, all comments that do not promote European and American behavior are paid? Plans are not equal to actions. Europe and the United States are well-documented about their actions on the African continent during the colonial period and now. If you want to endorse Europe and the United States, then encourage them to take more practical and positive actions instead of talking about them.
@@pawpanda8443 I was going to explain my answer but didn’t want to spend 15 min on big explanation so just posted it without explaining. People are lazy these days 🤷🏼. The comments above are very negative about Europe and USA and you say I am wrong cause of being negative about China?
People complaining about Europe and the west almost forget that in Russia or China as a citizen you are not allowed to criticize at all. Most of your freedom is gone and even tho politicians lie in every country the lies and online censorship they put out in country’s like China are from a whole new level.
Andrew is funny. When I learned English, I was also taught about US festival and history. It is still the case of English studying in China.But we chinese never claim is one kind of culture export. Come on, could you imagine one English learner knows nothing about UK and US?
Same in Europe when I learnt German and English. We would learn songs, geography, politics, history, talk about customs etc. For special holidays we would try to cook their food.
But he compared it to learning French and maybe that would be different in his country cause it's an official language in several African countries so it might be too many to focus on and Africa's relationship with France is complicated due to colonialism.
No point talking about who benefits the most. A mutually beneficial relationship is all we need. It’s a common sense among Chinese. I don’t know why it’s so hard for the western people to understand. Maybe the western people still believe Africans are not even capable of negotiating a fair business deal. How racist is it?
Only the west knows what’s a good deal. Haha
Well, clearly they can't because their land is being taken away from them for failing to pay LOL.
@@max1cp , the west can be generous and write off Africa’s debts, mostly owed to western banks.
@@max1cp what land, you are just wishing that was true.
We can’t ask questions now huh?
Long live sino african relationship
West in general walked away from sub Saharan Africa after the collapse of colonialism. More accurately those not worth plundering for their resources or used as safari destinations were abandoned. As bad as the west if not worse are the oil rich nations of the north. US trillions and weapons poured into Israel as both nations supported apartheid is particularly cruel IMO.
Very true. The West is extremely rich in large part due to plundering of Africa's natural resources and slave Labour.
True, they pivoted from Africa to the Middle East instead to steal their oil.
Another day, another China bashing video from DW. I am learning Korean and it is perfectly normal for a textbook and language class to teach you about the history, culture, music and festivals. Quite pathetic fear mongering.
Partner with us Asians we only care about money and success. We don’t care about politics . We all have a commonality = money/success. Good luck my African Brothers . 🇰🇭
Not all Asians but yes Chinese and Philippinos have shown that they have the ability to treat us as equals. How are Africans viewed in Cambodia? Is it safe for visits?
@@36G which Asians are the worst toward Africans?
China some decedes ago - Poorer than Africa
China today - Help building Africa
Conclusion Biggest treasure a country can have is it's people
make a video about US and afghanistan... who benefits most?
IMF and the world bank never did anything good for developing countries but offer loans that were impossible to pay off as they contained clauses that would raise interest rates without ceilings at any point in time.
Yup most people don't know about the SAP conditions that starved a country of investment if they didn't agree to spend itv in a way that benefits the west.
@@36G I absolutely agree. Every country the IMF and world bank that's has lent money to is still dirt poor while countries China has lent money to are becoming more economically independent and industrialized. The west never wanted countries to gain that much economic power and they thought China was going to be a western dog forever.
@@mikeyu5004 true they are scared of how much profit they'd lose if they had to actually pay Africans a fair price for their resources. Did you see how fast France scrambled and called in their puppet African leaders when Africans made their free trade pact to ditch the Central African Franc? Look it up it's hilarious. If it wasn't for their old colonies France would have lost all its influence on Africans. Even more terrifying for them is that China helped the Africans facilitate the deal.
@@36G I don't know much about the trade pacts in Africa but I have no doubts countries like France don't want Africa to have a piece of their own cake. Having grown up in the west they don't teach or talk about these private trade details in the public for a reason.
@@36G many Africans in the west just want to make a living and are easily distracted with making easy money as it's a trap for many uneducated immigrants.
Short term - Africa. Long term - Africa & China.
Who has benefited the most?
This is less important to know but the most important question is know a part of China, who has this capacity to invest so much money to Africa to improve the infrastructure and help to develop our country
Hey Wumao brother! 👍
I once drove through a industrial zone in Gauteng, South Africa, and noticed an entire Chinese dominated block, with Mandarin banners across the road and Chinese workers building structures. Chinese workers in retail stores. Now how is that benefiting Africans. The only benefit is the cheap often junk goods that's on sale. Those benefits are working only one way and that's in China's favour. Sign up to Belt and Road at your own peril as they often demand that the infrastructure they supposedly invest is used as collateral. If you cannot service the China loans, they simply take ownership of the infrastructure. That benefits with a gun to your head.
@@thusspokezarathustra are you saying the entire continent of Africa is being tricked by China?
@@youngz13o any contract has at least two parties in agreement; however such agreement may not necessary take place between parties of equal strength - subliminal dominance of power can come into play. Especially when the weaker party may agree under terms that ordinarily would not be acceptable. Such as agreeing to put up as collateral national interest key point assests; I.e. a airport, harbour, agricultural land, etc. The stronger party in agreement approaches the weaker party with a smile, promises to invest in a joint effort benefiting both parties. However, the agreement has a sting in the tail; it's in fact a 'loaded' agreement, which has its goal (development), but that goal masks the true goal, which is to build a claim (debit) over the weaker party setup so the weaker party inevitably would fail. The real goal is achieved; the collateral underpinning the agreement. The stronger party is using a dead standard business contract as a weapon. Much more effective and less costly than Putins method. It's the Chinese way - 'gentle quiet aggression'. Not a shot fired but dead done. There are already a number of examples in Africa and elsewhere. So my friend there's no where to hide, Belt & Road serves one aim dominance through trade. There are enough weak governments out there willing to sign away the wealth of nations for personal gain for China to make a real killing.
Are you high? It's the US
God bless China 🇨🇳
Interesting mentality: how can you teach a language without linking it to some basic facts about culture and history of the country? Isn't it a good thing to learn such things about another country?
Stop supporting these western looters
From Russia With Love .
From China With Happiness And Prosperity .
Wow the delusions run high here. We want no part of the CCP. The whole world knows how miserable the people of China are under that fascist regime. Not to mention the Uiygers, and those oppressed by the CCP in Tibet, Taiwan and Hong Kong. No thanks. Love a free South Africa
@@talyah23 People all over the world know how miserable the Chinese people are, but except for Chinese like me.
I like my government, and I don’t think it’s a bad government to make their country and people better,no matter what way.But look at yourself and ignore your own development for the sake of defamation without evidence.
China is constantly developing, and your country is constantly declining
@@talyah23 have you ever been to china and Tibet instead of watching western medias?
The west And the world is nothing without Africa
Cheers from west Africa
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I agree that Africa is and will be one of the key power in humanity advances and achievements in the multi-polarized global community, whether certain countries like it or not.
The West is rich in large part due to the west plundering African countries and the whole world.
They said Africa benefited from colonization more than its masters. Why wouldn't the same apply here?
Africa did not benefit from colonisation
possibly, though the europeans colonised mostly for tactical reasons or for prestige. except Belgium in the Congo. If the europeans could have got more out of africa they would have, china can get allot out of africa
Who said that?
It is good for young African to learn the culture of China as it is one of the countries that it's culture is well preserved. The African-China cooperation have shown the development road, agriculture, building etc. At least it is better than western countries colonies 🤣🤣.
I guess you do not mind being monitored by the state 24/7. Having to guard against saying anything publically that may offend your great leader. Pathetic.
I think you won't mind being a citizen of china then.
@@thusspokezarathustra I think you westerners are so pathetic, claiming your democracy as superb, but in fact you are racist too.
@@Ramli_K how on earth do you conclude I'm racist because I comment on a political choice?! Please explain, I'm keen to hear you argument. Good luck!
@@thusspokezarathustra maybe I should not write as you instead of westerner 😀. You just refer to the treatment of Asian American in US, can you still deny that racist doesn't exist?
China better than America.
American people always underestimate Asian and African people.
America came with power hegemony, China come with economi challenge, but African have be careful because everything have a risk. I choose have USD 1 million with USD 1 million debt than USD 10 with USD 5 debt, because money can give challenge for better life.
China doesn't even have clean water, dude. Lol.
@@sandman6088 oh my lord, u are def an american, who claims africa is a country. U think the whole world still in ancient times? China is now the most dominant economy in the world. I'm not even Chinese and I still know
@@sandman6088 so do people that live in Mississippi you sh*thead lmfaooo!
When will DW do a story titled "German Colonization of Burundi, Rwanda, Tanzania, Namibia, Cameroon, Gabon, Congo, Central African Republic, Chad, Nigeria, Togo, Ghana: Who benefits most?"
Yes, the relationship between Africa and China may be unequal but the West should be partly blamed for not providing alternative cooperations.
Agreed, the west has failed its duty to support former colonies. I think it's a very fair criticism, and a responsibility we bear. If China embarrasses us in Africa, it will be a huge symbolic shift of power and influence.
@@greyfells2829 You're 100% correct. Can't ignore history. Millions have died over the years of a one way benficial approach the West has had with Africa.
@@drewp1076 And now the Chinese colonize them economically.
Nothing can beat evil European history
@@DarxKies Chinese own most of American Sept, are they colonizing them economically?
Actually, it is a good thing for Africa to diversify the kind of countries that invest in the continent. We know that Western countries that invest in Africa want to push for homosexuality, feminism, human rights etc. On the other hand, Chinese want to push for infrastructural development without necessarily influencing the socio-political dynamics of the African country. Other countries like Japanese, Russia, India etc. (if they choose to invest in Africa) will introduce a new angle of development beyond infrastructure, homosexuality, gender equality etc. So this mix will provide a good balance for accelerated growth and development in Africa.
so human rights are bad now or what? China is not influencing? Are you high? Coercing the African countries signing some papers that China is not committing genocide while basically destroying the economy of the African countries with Chinese debt traps?
@@DarxKies nah they are not bad but how are u gonna have human right when whole country is starving and is ravaged by a virus???? I mean idk why u americans cant see that china has done more good then bad i whould rather have china as a global supper power then hypocritical eu and us
@@DarxKies Chinese own most of American dept, are they colonizing them economically?
@@nemanjacvjetkovic5583 You mean the virus that comes from the China where the CCP tried to cover it up and now killed millions world wide?
More good than bad? The CCP? Are you high? Wumao. Your governments runs concentration camps in 2021.
As someone who grew up in China and knows their mentality, the Chinese government's venture into Africa isn't out of good will, but to exploit cheap labour, natural African resources, using their votes to gain advantage, one way Chinese cultural exportation and to build infrastructure to aid in transporting those goods. They aren't doing it for free to help Africa, Chinese people love money, and they will get their money's worth in the end - which could be political control, suppression of freedom of speech, failing to repay debt will result in privatisation of federal/state utilities which could drive up prices of electricity/internet/phone/water/food/education, destroying native African ecosystems and animals for financial gain, higher pollution via inefficient methods of power production that will lead to deaths from respiratory issues, trade wars if an African country doesn't comply with CCP demands, purchasing and control of large amounts of land making it too expensive for locals to buy land, setting up poor or lax regulations that can lead to harm in the future, and much more. These are issues already faced by countries that had to deal with China for decades.
Let’s go Africa forget the US
Compare to what European did to African, China is a saint. I think the reporter know it really well.
To do business with Western countries, you have to do accept Gayness, do what they say and support them against their rivals.
And what's wrong with "gayness"? Are you gay and afraid of that?
@@DarxKies And what's wrong in learning Chinese culture and language?
@@thecomment9489 Absolutely nothing. If you want to learn Chinese culture and the language then you have to go to Taiwan.
The CCP butchered the Chinese language and destroyed its culture.
@@DarxKies LOL. Chinese language learning doesn't require you to visit Taiwan. There is whole online world available and Chinese language courses are available in probably most major countries of the world. CCP preserved the Chinese language and culture and that is why about 30-50 million people are learning it as their second or foreign language.
@ciybersal Oh poor poor ignorant. Gayness is a totally different thing than nicest and animal sex.
Question for you: how come animals are gay too?
Another useless and discredited piece from DW - When Africa deals with West who benefits ? Is it not the West ? Hypocritical stance yet again -
Why don't you level the field by making a piece on Africa's relationship with the West and who benefits ? huh ?
Why do you have to moan wumao. Educate yourself.
Darx Kies you are sick and need medication. I sympathize you 😆
@@DarxKies I agree - DW - Educate yourself
@@mhtanster hahahahaha Sympathizing requires empathy, and wumaos lack that. Otherwise they wouldn't support the CCP.
@@kenpinzky4798 "I agree".... selective perception is not a good sign wumao. Now get lost behind the Great Firewall.
Who will benefit more from the joint venture? There is no doubt that shareholders who invest more have the most benefits and, of course, more risks
Well, the Spanish burned all Maya books, destroyed their language, leaving Mexicans to speak Spanish today.
The real question is who is benefiting the lease and it is the old colonialist the US and the Europeans. They realize that days of their exploitation is over.
Meanwhile, the US their allies continue to criticise China, while NOT offering any investments to Africa. Look at how infrastructure in Nigeria has improved because of Chinese investments. What exactly has western countries done for them? It’s priceless really.
I am interested in understanding how Africans are treated in China. That is the question at hand.
Who benefit the most? That means both benefited? Wow.
"who benefit the most?" -- easy answer, out of the two countries, the richest one will benefit the most. Note, this does not apply to China Africa relations only.
Which two countries?
Africa is richer in resources but i believe. Hina will win that war. Bc they kill their own ppl. Africa will be set up... Sadly... Do not allow it. Africa has been raped enough
Still better than what the Europeans did and Uncle Sam bombs.
@@maxscania Baloney, their motives and objectives are the same.
yeah this is DW and its....''LEGENDARY ''questions''
Did Andrew himself says that "One sided cultural exchange is no exchange? " Or did DW News add that up without Andrew's consent?
They would have added a video showing him say that if he really said that.
It's an edited narrative. I am sure he didn't mean it like that.
Confucius institutes are better than McDonalds 😂😂
Do "Europe s relations with Africa" next...
Africa economy doing better now..
Europe's relations with Africa: Who benefits most??🤐
simple, Chinese never ever slave African friends, and today's African surely would slap on anyone who try to do that again!
China treat you as equal and we feel good. China has no competition in African and we love that. So stop disturbing China
中国的老祖宗有句话叫:授人以鱼，不如授人以渔！
2:10 There is a Clip that I Strongly disagree.
(The interviewee) Andrew argued that the Chinese school orchestrated the course of Chinese language, by teaching Chinese history or Chinese Poems, so as to implant culture influence to the learners like him. And he expressed that he would be happy enough ONLY to know communication language rather than poems.
The fact is that for all pupils in China, the very first lesson of a Chinese textbook starts with a classic poem. For pupils entering a elementary school, it is a poem called The Goose (鹅) Which was written around 650 AD; on the same semester pupil will have to meet a few sentences collected from Analects (论语) which is a composition of Confucius' speech back to 2400 years ago. Toddlers were often taught the Three Character Classic (三字经) in the kindergarten, which was probably drafted during 13th Century AD.
Unsurprisingly, starting with the Classic sounds odd to other language users. My explanation is that because Chinese as a written language didn't evolve too much in span of its history. Besides, knowing origin or etymology of characters, could render a reader quick interpretation of the meaning, even if a phrase he may never heard --- Chinese is a logogram language that a character represent one or several meanings. So understanding and reciting classic literatures as an assistance to remember and wield the Art of Chinese, are always part of Chinese learning, no matter today or 100 years ago, or 1,000 years ago. As a reference, Chinese textbooks for senior school in Taiwan possesses over a third of courses in classic readings. Similar it is in PRC.
So, when a teacher wants his/her student understanding something from ancient, inevitably he/she has to talk about its background. Just like if someone is going to talk about Trojan Horse, please imagine He avoids to mention anything about the Greeks.
Having said that, I could understand that learning the classics is painstaking and there will be resistance (Just as my child who always says I dont know after being questioned to interpret). Textbook and course had better tailor to fit second language learners typically taking it as a working language.
Africa needs the West and China to collaborate together to help Africa develop, not compete against each other
There is no such thing, all the 3 are very greedy, competitions always good to the consumers, collaboration is not ...
right ! :)))) soon after that you ll ask me to perform a blo***b too :D
@@maxscania stup please China is NOT helping Africa in any way theyre just SECURING food
@@kukulroukul4698 u r way off point.
@徐鋒 you re in NO POSITION culturaly speaking to compare yourself with America
china its 500 years late to help africa against Europe !!
Sorry for the late. because 100years ago china is still so poor at fighting against EU, at that time we don't have the energy to help Africa.
China also export a lot more than import from the US, so….what’s your problem with it?
you mean africa actually benefits as well? that's new. that hasn't been the case after a couple of centuries of western colonialism.
Chinese 'development deals' can result in China laying claim to strategic state assets such in the case of Kenya, which faces the possibly losing control over its port, Mobasa, because of difficulties repaying a Chinese loan. That's possibly why they've called it "Belt and Road" - if you dare fail, China gives you a real wallop with its 'belt's and 'tosses' into the 'road'. Sounds like a deal Africa should be thinking twice about.
Don't all do the same? If you can't pay the debt you lose some property of yours. And you usually need to meet some requirements or to agree on some conditions to be given the loan.
@@БорисСоловьев-я2ю for many decades the US, Europe, IMF and WB have provided development funding to Africa and despite the fact that much of those development loans never benefited those issuing loans, these states and development organizations do not demand African states give up sovereign territory or assets to compensate. Which brings into question the motives surrounding Chinese development funding.
@@thusspokezarathustra Same goes for Russia who wrote off 20 billion dollar of african debts to Soviet Union. But it's something to do with politics. Usually banks take your property if you can't pay the debt anywhere in the world afaik. Africa is probably a special case, it's more like a humanitarian aid than a commercial loan(though there're always some political agreements behind the debts we probably don't know of). China just makes it 100% commercial.
@@thusspokezarathustra well, the US just literally took the a piece of land and built a military base on it. Was it a part of loans? You will never know.
@@JR-vc4gm possibly its defence against rogue states that have killed their own people? Remember Tiananmen Square? Chinese were massacred simply because they questioned the benefits of Communism and decided Democracy was a better system - which it certainly is. To live in state which monitors your private and public life 24/7 is a hellish state. I guess you will not agree - well I understand you cannot do otherwise...
Africa get 100% benefits!! African will get new technology for farm and electronic system,UNCLE give SUPPORT in RIGHT times☺☺☺
For now. Later they'll realise how the CCP will trap them into debt traps like literally every poor nations they targeted before. But I don't blame them as the western countries aren't providing any alternatives
And they have to give up the rights of ports or the only international airports (Uganda) to the Chinese because they didn't see the Chinese debt trap.
@@anshumaanphukan4388that government matters!!! We all wanna see All CHILD in Africa not eating MUD and unhealthy meals ANYMORE! it's cost for something return for goods, for COMFORT ZONES you need to pay for it IF YOU CANNOT work on it by SELF!!!
@@kimienick6721 I know they are screwed anyways so they may not have any other options. Only time will tell how how this turns out. If it will genuinely helping them, then obviously it's amazing. But I'm still sceptical
@@anshumaanphukan4388 easy to made human understand, if you wanna connection you need pay INTERNET! The more high you pay the more benefit and BIG DATA YOU GET, same on this, the more land used the more BENEFITS returned....
How many country in Africa speaks French? non of them speak Chinese.
NATO and the United States have become closed minded (living in a small bubble concerned only with inside their realm) and have literally ignored the pleas from these small developing countries to help them grow. BIG MISTAKE! Big!
We have a scene in the last eight years a growth at an alarming rate of Dictatorships in Africa, funded and encouraged by Russia.
The west underestimates the ambition of Han hegemony that we've been fighting against for centuries.
I love Kenya and the people. I've been there several times with the army. Jambo Kenya!
Of course it had to be war related business lol 😂
CPC deconstructing the neo-colonial grip of the Imperial Core on Africa is a most welcome paradigm shift.
Right because Chinese imperialism is so great. Look how far East Turkestan got after it was occupied by the CCP. Now they have concentration camps. Isn't that wonderful?
Eid should be declared public holiday in Europe. And there should be freedom of choice so if a woman wants to wear veil it should be allowed but that basic freedom in many European countries is being denied.
Why you learn English and celebrate Christmas . Answer is
Beware of Greeks bearing gifts
Destination = War
Why news platforms forget to tell about India's assistance and helps to African nations
please DONT !... SouthAfrica are still searching for their disappeared money even today :)))
It's because geopolitics
😂😂😂🇮🇳101 global hunger index
We don't want to help Africa .we should focus on self development
101 hunger index😂😂😂
Superpower india
Last time I check, Africa and Western countries had a wonderful slaving trading relationship prosperous for a few hundred years. I am sure it was much better for the Africans.
I'm sure DW misses out in mentioning that the Goethe institute courses in German not only teaches language, but also the culture as well. I seriously don't see why this is seen as negative in western mainstream press.
Germany FAILED in Namibia. They destroyed instead of building. I will never forget what Germany did to Namibia...never!
The CCP's venture into Africa isn't out of good will, but to exploit cheap labour, raid natural African resources, use African votes to gain geopolitical advantage, one way Chinese cultural exportation & to build infrastructure to aid in transporting those natural resources/importing goods to Africa. They aren't doing it for free to help Africa, Chinese people love money, and they will get more than their money's worth in the end - which could be political control, suppression of freedom of speech, countries that fail to repay debt will result in privatisation of federal/state utilities which could drive up prices of electricity/internet/phone/water/food/education, destroying native African ecosystems and animals for financial gain, higher pollution via inefficient methods of power production that will lead to deaths from respiratory issues, trade wars if an African country doesn't comply, purchasing and control of large amounts of land making it too expensive for locals to buy land, setting up poor or lax regulations that can lead to harm in the future, and much more. These are issues already faced by countries that had to deal with China for decades - I speak from experience! Be careful Africa!
Who benefits the most? Logically speaking, its the investors in the short run, clients in the long run. Am I right?
Europe loves Africa HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
America & Europe benefit most, when they colonised & exploited resources there.
West vs china : colonization vs business.
Is this true???
Im just asking???
At least in China-Africa relations it's beneficial for both parties..
Crying Europe 😭😭😭
Can't get slaves from Africa anymore 😭
They don't need slaves they just need the resources underground for free.
So much is talked about and analyzed about the China-Africa relationship which includes among other issues social-cultural aspect of it. What l have failed to hear how China is blending into African society. African s are busy learning Chinese languages in Africa & China but haven't heard Chinese doing the same. How come? Can anybody explain that to me?
They have actually. Since many come to Africa to work for Chinese corporations many learn the local dialect marry local women, join/build communities and some ( a negligible amount) even join tribes. It's not all good obviously but their not raping women and butchering men like the Europeans did.
So why has English become the dominant language of the world then? Has many native Anglo speakers attempt to learn Chinese or Swahili or any other languages for that matter? Virtually none. Why? Because Britain was the first country to be industrialised which in turn made it the world’s first superpower thus enabling it to colonise virtually the whole world! Btw speaking a foreign language is an asset not a liability and the Chinese should feel inferior for being able to speak any native African languages or any other languages like English or even French not superior unlike many africans! 😅
The “debt-trap” theory is concocted by Brahma Chellaney, an Indian geopolitical strategist. The “debt-trap” theory is concocted by Indians, and popularized by Americans. They concoct this theory to demonize China, Chinese and BRI projects/loans. India, US, along with EU, fear losing their control over other countries which may result from these projects. Such fears are based on their selfish and geopolitical interests. However, people from all over the world, especially from developing countries have acknowledged the needs and the actual benefits of these projects/loans. They know from their first-hand experience that there is no debt-trap. Academics and researchers have reviewed these projects, and have debunked the debt-trap theory.
Loans carry risks, but locals don't have the money
The salaries of the 9 directors of Apple are equivalent to the salaries of 100,000 Chinese workers in the assembly line of Apple. Is it OK this relationship.
The best thing for African countries is to be wary of their relationship with Chinese and western countries alike. The Chinese have their best interest at heart, so don’t expect too much from them in the future. You can calibrate with them, so both parties benefit, but keep your eyes and ears wide open and sleep with one eye open. The African people have to do all the heavy lifting. Political transparency and accountability is a must if they want to be at the top of the world stage and in every field. African countries must draw a long-term economic strategy that depends on their local labor and innovation by improving and developing the training and education of their youth. Or else they will not get the respect they deserve from the EAST or the WEST. It would be best to become the master of your destiny. or neo-colonialism is just around the corner.
Likewise when Africans learn English or French from their colonial teachers, they were being made into one of them too, don't they, ...according to the video?
Also there were Western churches in Africa, and Africans were converted into Catholics, into a religion of foreign origin? Furthermore, they were made to dress like Europeans, and eat Western style of food...
African watched Western movies and TV programs, listened to Western songs and do pop dances.
Today with China invests in Africa, the people had the opportunities to expose to some elements of Chinese culture, like what they had previously with the English and the French.
Great China contributes to the growth and prosperity in Africa.
Wumao^
the hunger REFLEX stares out of the chinese! by comparison africans are SPOILED in terms of food
CCP imperialism is bad wumao. There is only winner: the CCP
@@MilesBellas CIA Troll
@@DarxKies Only US regime / Euro lackeys imperialism is good for the world.