I remember living in the 90s and thinking why is this not happening. Thankfully several countries finally stepped up and started doing moon exploration.
Outer Space doesn't exist.Earth is the only World there is.There are no other Physical Cosmic Worlds out there and there is no Infinite Cosmic Spatial Vacuum Void.Outer Space has "3 Enormous Problems":Problem 1 - Survivability - Cosmic Space is completely and inherently uninhabitable, inhospitable and unliveable.This doesn't seem/feel right.If Outer Space truly existed it should therefore be completely and inherently habitable,hospitable and liveable.If Outer Space was real it would be 100% welcoming of All-potential Beings,Creatures and Life-forms.This means that Outer Space must be "Breathable",because otherwise Everyone and Everything would immediately and perpetually suffocate and no Life-forms would ever emerge or survive in such a lethal Cosmic Universe.Problem 2 - Cosmic Travel - All-vehicles must push "Something" in order to move and go "Somewhere".In Earth's Atmosphere Automobiles push "Air" to move,Airplanes also push "Air" to move and Cruise Ships push "Water" to move,but Outer Space has no Atmosphere.You cannot travel to/in Outer Space,because The Vacuum of Space neutralizes All-pushing power/travel power.This means that Space Travel is impossible,that No One has ever left The Earth,that No One has ever traveled to Space and that every single Space Mission from the beginning to today is a lie.If Outer Space truly existed it would need to have an "Atmosphere" in order for Outer Space Travel to be possible.Problem 3 - Vast Separation - Celestial Space is just far too tremendously vast as a territory.All-Life-forms are separated,because of the "Humongous Distance" between them.This is not convenient.If Outer Space was real it wouldn't be so gargantuan,because it has to be much smaller and more "Tightly-Knit",so that All-potential Life-forms can locate and discover each other.Outer Space is a lie designed in order to convince The Public that Extraterrestrial Beings exist.The total "Inhospitableness" and "Unfeasibility" of Outer Space proves that Outer Space cannot exist,because Outer Space doesn't exist!
Well yes...And well no! And there are obvious parallels with the Apollo missions during which America, and the world, was also going through a tumultuous time! 🤔 But yeah, bad stuff that's happening in the world today aside, developments like these actually keeps me sane! But it also feels like a race... Will we crack space, open up whole new worlds and industries, unify Humanity and usher in a new era of Peace as we finally make that transition to Type I Civilization...? Or will negative events surge ahead and condemn our species back to the Stone Age... Or worse!? Interesting Times Indeed!
@@dougspace6734 i think mars milestone are much farther then that, their just isn't that much to do on mars for the cost of it, and the living condition would be so horible. It would be cheaper to build city at the bottom of the ocean then on mars.
It will be future of NASA&ASEE "Advanced Automation for Space Missions" with Tesla-bot self-replicating fabric's. Robots will cover whole Moon in few years one gigantic Tesla-bot fabric, and it will be our gate to whole Solar System, whole Universe
Bringing this down to Earth, what difficulties the Antartica pioneers faced are key to planning? Those stations can be compared to potential planning of Moon or Mars colonies. The logistics and costs, & budgets, of maintaining these outposts will be the primary focus & provide the planning benchmarks going forward. That will help more accurately provide insight of the overall cost of this venture.
NASA would probably not even be interested in going back to the Moon if it wasn't for China wanting to go there. So, in a way I thank China for wanting to go there.
Not even remotely, NASA's been trying to start a sustainable Lunar program since 1969, shortly after Apollo 11. First it was part of the initial design process using the Space Shuttle with the Space Task Group, using tugs, multiple stations, and distributed launch to enable eventual Moon/Mars missions (until it was whittled down to the point that only the Shuttle remained). Then again in the 1989, trying to start something similar up again (the 90 day report), where only space station Freedom remained (which eventually evolved into the ISS), then in the early 2000s with Constellation with an Apollo-like architecture using a new Orion capsule, a Shuttle-Derived Super Heavy Lift Vehicle, and a new Lunar Lander, with plans for Mars/asteroid missions. Then a bit of a road block in 2011 with its cancellation, where only Orion and a redesigned SD-SHLV were left. Move to 2017 when Artemis was announced, and 2021/23 when SpaceX and Blue Orion were chosen to handle the Lunar Landers. The road to returning to the Moon has had many false starts, and while it seems that it'll actually stick this time, we can't know for sure, because it's dependent on Federal funding. And Congress is responsable for the lack of funding in these programs. We probably could've returned to the Moon in the 80s, or not even had a gap if Apollo were allowed to continue until the Shuttle could take over. It's only in the last 20 years that Congress has really approved reasonable funding for a Lunar program, and even then, they didn't give NASA enough for Lander development, most of it is for SLS/Orion/Gateway (SpaceX and Blue are funding 50% themselves, which is good, mind you, but NASA didn't have enough to select both of them in 2021).
Very good point. I've been a mechanical engineer all my life. Even the most precisely made oil seal will fail. This moon dust will grind away at anything. New technology will be needed to overcome this.
lunar regolith is electrostatic, therefore applying a small current to a machine could repel dust and keep bearings clean. Hope you find this interesting!
@@kv-2heavytank52yes, regolith is electrostatically charged (by the way, also mars dust is charged) and causes electric fields of several kilovolt, so there is also problem of electrostatic discharging to be solved, not only mechanical issues. There is research being done on mitigation measures but I have seen no evidence of truly practical solutions, where the complications (eg adding special surfaces to everything, equipment, instruments, astronaut gear,..) could be acceptable. Still a huge unsolved problem in general.
Ai will so enhance the project management of this venture. Exponential improvement in space ship design and safety is just around the corner and can make this happen.
Wowser, nasty stuff. Sounds like they have come up with a way to melt the high silica regolith in order to create a lunar glass launch pad, at least in earth trials.
Differences between the moon & Mars - - Atmosphere (Mars has one) - ISRU (can’t do Methane on the moon) - Gravity (16% of earth’s vs. 37.6% of earth’s) - Day length (14 days vs. 24.6 hours) - Growing food (more can grow on Mars) - Regolith (Lunar is really sharp, Martian is smother) - Cosmic radiation (Lunar is same as that going to deep space, Mars is same as ISS even if unshielded).
What a mind-blowingly weird time to be alive! There's a chance we will have a ton of people living on the moon before we figure out how to make sure all the people on earth have shelter. It's like inventing aerosol deodorant before the wheel.
Luckily there’s zero chance of them successfully establishing people on the moon long term Sadly there’s also zero chance money, power and tech will be used to help close the equality gap on earth
I assume a lunar Economy will be centered around heavy industry, and potentially kick off once we begin to construct giant, rotating orbital habitats. (Benefits: 1G, location, optimal weather, and nature 365 days / year, easy access / commute to deep space, and earth + heavy orbital industry as well.) It might also be slower, but more practical to construct such habitats in earth orbit, and to transfer them to other planets and moons in the solar system, since that means you also have a big habitat, industrial capabilities and a self-sustaining environment direct in the orbit of such planet, which would make colonization, or further exploration much easier, and reduce a lot of risk. The back draw would likely be, that it takes 50 - 100 years longer since you need viable, large habitats of that scale first.
@@MichaelWinter-ss6lx You are right, once we finally broke the curse of not beeing able to ship things to orbit for a reasonable price, things could develop very fast. In all sectors, e.g. if I think about planet hunting and maybe finding something that starts a new race to a new world. I would love if it goes faster. I have to admit, I was not aiming for the minimal viable product, though but thinking about a fully matured heavy industry with cylinders more in the ballpark off 10 x 50 kilometers 😅
@@MichaelWinter-ss6lx OP is presumably talking about something like an O'Neill habitat (you can google it or if you've seen 'Babylon 5', well, basically that) and 50-100 years is pretty optimistic in that case IMO. And no "something something Starship !" isn't going to change that appreciably, not in the real world. Personally I don't see a lunar economy being based on "heavy industry" because why construct things on the Moon ? It's not rich in almost all the raw materials needed meaning they'd come from Earth, at least short-medium term. Why would we lift steel etc. into orbit, transport it to lunar orbit, drop it down the lunar gravity well, construct the habitats/pieces there only to have to lift them back _up_ again (even against "only" 1/6 g) ? Seems nonsensical. Cut out most of those steps by building in LEO. No, by the time we're building things like O'Neill cylinders we'll be well established on the Moon and likely Mars too i'd say (assuming we get there at all of course).
@@anonymes2884 i think heavy industry will have to be the first major thing to move to space, we need to expand and grow, but we also need to look after our ecosystems and natural balances, moving polluting industries to space would significantly help this. Perhaps we can find lunar substitutes to material, or begin development further afield in the asteroid belt. But what's to say the moon isn't rich in resources? I thought that we only had a good idea of what is on the surface and a few centimeters below?
Two elephants in the Moon Outpost Forum are (1) the certain physiological/psychological long term impacts of spending an extended period in a low gravity, very hostile environment and (2) the basic cost/benefit analysis of these extended missions which would certainly offer great entertainment and science opportunities but at a cost that cannot possibly justify the missions. IMO the only motivation that will actually allow the missions to succeed in a sustainable way are military-related. Seldom mentioned, the military aspect of a Lunar presence has considerable value, especially if adversaries are establishing bases there. This latter consideration requires some study to fully appreciate.
this would be illegal and dangerous, no one should be able to launch something from the moon, that would be country destroying if it would make sense, which it still doesnt because everyone would be able to see that many hours before it lands and launch some countermeasure to move it, lasers are not going to be as effective going through the atmosphere, and a nuke can still be launched and land quicker.
Yeah one thing this vid didn't mention in the China segment is China already has territorial-like ambitions for the moon/space, comparing it to Scarborough Shoals/Fiery Cross Reef, the contested islands they claim belong to them deep in the South China Sea, if anything they are gonna likely be the ones most willing to posture that way in space the way they do on Earth
@planetsec9 agree. China's presence on the moon provides the USA with multiple reasons to do the same. I am impressed with their lunar accomplishments thus far but expect them to lag behind others going forward due to their non-cooperative approach to space missions. We'll see.
Who is non-cooperative !? Thats not China. Its America, after having failed to dictate Chinas innerpolitical matters, they just announced China illegal. 🚀🏴☠️
Nuclear power is the safest form of energy known to man. But what is the first question asked after it's mentioned? "Will there not be environmental considerations to producing nuclear power on the moon?" I'd suggest Financial Times research new reactors and fuel types being developed for Nuclear Power.
Don't be obtuse. It was a valid question because to the general public that question would be the first thing to come to mind. Even transporting the uranium for the project on a Starship would cause a media frenzy due to the possibility of it exploding in flight and spreading the radiation across a large area.
@@NabroloClearly you know nothing of nuclear power and only know the fear of weaponized warheads and piss poor security measures. Go do some research.
Intuitive machines (Lunr) is trying to land mid november. Going up on a falcon 9. The stock might pop like a cherry. The entire management team is former nasa and private space company execs from other start-ups. This is an amazing time to be alive. Humans are amazing
It is a good thing for China to build a base on the moon. It forces the United States to invest resources in space instead of blowing the earth to pieces.
*If the US do not trying to cheat, and using its early industrialization advantage, abuse and tear up "free market economy" it championed for 60 years, team up and blackmailing other advanced countries to block the raise of Japan, now China ... in the 2030s, 2040s we will be talking about "the race to put the first white people on Mars between China and United States*
20:18 Context on 600b gallons of water. It is about 3x annual use of city of Los Angeles (pop. 3.2m). Does not count water used for producing food for the population and other indirect consumption.
This video has been amended to correct the name of the person speaking during the Apollo 11 landing clip. In the previous version of this video, a name strap at 13'18 showed Neil Armstrong's name. It should have read "Edwin 'Buzz' Aldrin". We apologise for the error.
*If the US do not trying to cheat, and using its early industrialization advantage, abuse and tear up "free market economy" it championed for 60 years, team up and blackmailing other advanced countries to block the raise of Japan, now China ... in the 2030s, 2040s we will be talking about "the race to put the first white people on Mars between China and United States*
Correction @ 24:31 Starship IFT1 was a prototype which had an aspirational goal of reaching orbit, but it's mission was to get off the pad; therefore, it has not failed.
"what are you, a rocket scientist?" just doesn't hold weight anymore. Apparently that's easy and not a highly complex iterative process full of testing that also includes not everything working smoothly immediately.
@@null090909say what .. the first one got off the pad but damaged the infrastructure which they repaired and upgraded .. the second one got off the pad all engines firing .. didn't damage the pad and got to space but not orbit .. it had a similar problem to the falcon 9 with fuel moving around when it did the return maneuver
There is a lot of talk of extracting Oxygen, Hydrogen, and Helium 3: but is anyone looking into getting Nitrogen from the Moon? Plants we grow will need it, and adding it to the indoor atmosphere should make things more comfortable for lunar colonists.
I'm surprised this video did not talk about the Chinese space program. It is in my opinion that they are ahead of the west by no less than 5 years. I would not be at all surprised to see a taikonaut on the moon by 2030.
Certainly makes sense to put up a moon colony first, so if people go crazy or just want to go back home, then we're right over here. Mars is insane. Out back WY & NV makes more sense.
SpaceX is absolutely committed to establishing a permanent base on Mars ASAP. Their engine production rate, Starship production rate, increasing Starlink revenue, and Earth-Mars windows means that SpaceX will be making multiple cargo landing attempts starting in 2026. Crazy or not (it's technically not) SpaceX is going to try sooner than later.
Gateway is the last bad decision that needs to be removed after the public SLS admission. Once they just focus on economic spending on a surface lunar base and channel said focus around resource acquistion and utilization(Water, o2, fuel to begin with and then more). Along side this you open up access to the rest of the surface with efficient hop vehicles that can refuel while beginning to really learn what it takes to mine and manufacture offworld along side all the human health research that has be missing outside of 1g and micro g enviroments. We've been capable of getting this rolling for dacades but it was never easy to sell politically until other countries like China put pressure on America with a 2nd space race. Take a second and imagine a scenario where the U.S was beaten to estabilishing a long term surface base and other countries began mining first etc. That would never sit well imo.
Yeah, if not for China, the US would not be going back to the Moon. Why NASA didn't go back for decades? It's because no one else was interested. For space enthusiasts like myself, I thank China for wanting to go to the Moon and beyond. The TV Show Firefly is slowly coming true. 😅
@@jukio02 SpaceX developing cheaper access to space has re-ignited the desire to go there. NASA has always wanted to populate space but politicians didn't see any benefit to it. Elon woke them up.
tbf, if you live only to average (depending on your country) you still have 50 or so years. We could see great advancements in anti-aging. 50 years is a long time in medicine and technology.
i find that funny when she said the nuclear waste "need to be developt" as after 50 years it still haven't been done on earth, but honestly i don't find it being a big concern as with the low G of the moon you can easily launch it away. But i think solar satelite powerplant with wireless beam energy transfert look like a more durable solution
I am confused here.When Starship arrives in orbit ,it is empty because it can only carry so much fuel into orbit due to weight as well and not space. So how many tankers have to arrive in orbit to fill up just one Starship ??? How much heavier is this Starship compared to an Apollo space craft and LEM .
We would need to consider environmental impacts, a cause and effect scenario. With nuclear power, what expansions on safety protocols if a melt down, accident, or ignorance. Can the moon dust progress to problems like lead and asbestos exposure, if so then what protocols should be mandated. Even if additional safety procedures need to be included with some to offset tedious temperament, mental fatigue (considering the scope of the environment on the moon).
@CorTec if colonized then contamination in close quarters could present problems and hazards. If moon farms, contamination with could present newer health issues that offset progression.
We have never developed an Antarctic economy exploiting Antarctic resources, despite the fact that for centuries we have been capable of reaching Antarticta. So why should we develop a lunar economy?
Regarding trash, I think lunar orbital debris is the thing to be worried about. Unlike earth, you don't have an atmosphere to degrade the orbit of junk.
This video was completely interesting right up until the 7 minute mark where it has to emphasized who were going to the moon. Not people of great scientific standing or excellent performance, no because they exhibit particular immutable traits. Seriously, every video talking about the crew of the Artemis 3 mission talks about the these traits, not their merits. That is why we need private space companies, because we cannot rely on governments to send their best and brightest. No, the best and brightest have started space companies and hire the best and brightest based purely on merit. Well one particular company has anyway and the CEO of said company is pretty vocal about it too 😁
I believe that it may take countries with sizable budgets to get it done, but someone should produce utilities for sale on the moon such as electricity from a nuclear power plant, communication satellites for internet and cell phones, fresh water, and natural gas maybe. Between public accessible utilities and space rocket ride sharing, along with mass produced inflatable living and work modules, a lot of smaller countries, maybe even corporations or individuals, could set up shop on the moon. An industrial park if you like. I’ve heard that some pharmaceuticals and crystals can be produced better in a weightless environment. If you build it, THEY WILL COME! I’m thinking maybe the US could build a lunar nuclear power plant, communications satellite system, fuel depot, and a fresh water storage and distribution system, etc…. along with a living space and workspace collection yard for our own use, and then offer to sell all of it to other parties. I think the neighborhood would fill up pretty quick, actually. A real lunar city!
What you describe is useful in orbit around the Earth, but that is not economic reason for going to the Moon. It is far easier to get to low-Earth orbit than to land on the Moon. What the Moon offers is resources that are already in space. Everything found on the Earth in terms on general mining for metals can be found on the Moon such as Iron, Aluminum, Silicon, Lithium, and all of the "rare earth" metals that are important in the 21st Century. Refining metals on the Moon may even be easier than on the Earth.
Surely the temperature differential between the dark side and the sun-facing side of the moon is sufficient to provide all the power that we would need? There is nothing more green than sun power.
The idea of conflict arising over lunar resources is laughable. I have no doubt we'll have moon bases next decade, but the cost of upkeep and return will be such that nothing is worth bringing off the surface besides people and souvenirs. It's going to be easier to bring stuff from Earth for a while
13/ The concept of "Inteli Track" for lunar drones sounds like a significant advancement in rover mobility technology. This system would allow drones to adjust their tracks in real time, flattening or lengthening them by manipulating the rollers and carriage. Such adaptability would maintain a tight track while enabling the drone to traverse a wide range of lunar terrains more effectively. This dynamic track adjustment could improve stability on uneven surfaces, enhance traction in loose regolith, and even adapt to obstacles or inclines. Implementing such a system in lunar drones would merge robotics, mechanical engineering, and intelligent control systems, potentially revolutionizing lunar exploration and transportation.
Blue Origin would be wise to stop trying to develop rockets and just focus on building the main infrastructure for the moon base, the infra on which all else is based. BO has experience with steering a large workforce and would be best suited for this task while smaller companies focus on the details, like technology and support equipment. Starship will be able to take on all the transport of materials etc. Bezos just needs to swallow his stupid pride.
because everyone interviewed has a vested interest in seeing this succeed, its in no ones interest to mention that humans are not equipped to live outside earth's gravity for any meaningful length of time without serious physical and mental repercussions
Diversifying is always good. Nuclear is an awesome option but it would be perhaps foolish to ignore the fact you can build solar panels pretty much from scratch from the resources there without causing the harm and risk we do when producing them at home.
@@FinancialTimes *If the US do not trying to cheat, and using its early industrialization advantage, abuse and tear up "free market economy" it championed for 60 years, team up and blackmailing other advanced countries to block the raise of chips of Japan in the 1980s 🤭, now China ... in the 2030s, 2040s we will be talking about "the race to put the first white people on Mars between China and United States*
24:28 Starhip early failures ? It has never performed a mission, how could it has failed ? Having setbacks while *developing* and *experimenting* is not "failing". The huge success of Falcon 9 should have make that clear.
16:25 Why chose hydroponic instead of aeroponic? in Aroponic noo need to worry about flow of liquid. In Aeroponic the air in buble is around 75-80% and 90-95% in the chanels with suply and PH regulators in the roots. chanels of air dont depend on gravity just air flow wich can be made easy buy ventilator. and Maintance of sediment clean can be easy because are in the chanel and not in the air wich was the first problem in the aeroponic. In zero G i think aeroponic is better than hydroponic.
I cant believe we have not already deployed a satellite around the moon allowing us further exploring from orbit. I would think this could have been done by a rocket with autonomous systems to deploy the satellite once its in lunar orbit. imagine how much more about the moon we could already know. We could map the entire surface like Google Earth... that would be very beneficial...
I'm a huge fan of the Apollo programme and have read many books about the astronauts and the engineers who made it possible. It's puzzling, therefore, why I cannot get excited about returning humans to the Moon; an expensive and risky endeavour with dubious benefits. I'd far rather that our efforts in space were geared to more robotic missions that expanded our scientific knowledge. For example, let's fund missions to send landers to the icy moons of Jupiter and Saturn and explore their oceans.
We're literally doing all of that and more. Also, building our programs around human survivability is arguably the best way to translate space investment into benefits for people here on Earth.
Nobody forces you to go to the moon. If you prefer to stick your head in the sand, wont bother anybody either. But if we dont get people into space now, thats gonna be closed real soon. Orbit is getting crowded. Thats not only a competitive diversity of US satelites. There exist also other countries on this planet and they also want to use smartphones and web services etc. There is per definition enough space in space, until we are forced to see the danger of overcrowded orbits. Same problem on the ground. But I've never heard of a problem being solved by just going back a step. 🚀🏴☠️
That's an absolutely valid perspective i'd say. There's definitely a tension between human vs automated space exploration and the whole idea of a "Moon economy" is on pretty shaky ground economically (and possibly even morally IMO). (He-3 is probably the biggest supposed lunar export for instance and not only have there been studies calculating that mining it on the Moon is unlikely to ever be economically viable, the whole enterprise is predicated on using it for generating power via nuclear fusion which, y'know, we can't actually _do_ yet and which is likely still decades away at best)
With how far down Starship is pushing launch costs, it's almost hard to imagine a scenario where converting moon water into rocket fuel is cheaper than just launching the fuel from Earth. There are obviously more reasons to go to the moon than just extracting fuel, but I wouldn't be surprised if SpaceX develops a fuel tanker version of Starship.
LOL: Starship doesn't work, so it isn't "bringing down launch costs". There's no universal "launch cost" either. Those numbers do not translate very far. Starlink costs don't translate to anything but Starlink.
It's strange that you didn't speak one word about india which just months ago landed in south pole, 1st country to do so and have very ambitious plans for future
India did a fantastic job but the mission wasnt a complete success, it didn’t land properly and battery died soon after it landed there. Also transporting humans is a completely different ball game. I hope they catch up
In 1969 a living room full of maschinery was needed for a computing power of a smartphone in 2023. Why don't we have lunar bases already and going there as tourists?
There is a positive in the Lunar environment being so hostile. It demands cooperation among the people living there. Cooperation literally becomes a matter of life and death.
The Greatest Quotes with regards to The Moon: Connie Conehead: "I think I'll have some Tang." Prymatt Conehead: "Ah Tang, the drink astronauts took to The Moon." Beldar Conehead: "Astronauts... to The Moon?"
Pre-packaged food would not be appetizing after six months but staples like flour, rice, tomato paste, etc., keep very well in a cabinet for a year or two. So take that stuff and make pizza with cheese made from cultured curds.
Who is singing and which song is it, the 'heavenly moon, I'm dreaming of somebody soon' song at the end, I can't find the song at all... at the credits of the video?
This is is nothing but a distraction a cheap magicians trick. So we don't focus on the real news of the day. The real question is since they don't consider Palestinians to be human why don't they send them to the Moon?
NASA's 2009 LCROSS mission shoes us one place with high concentrations of both water ice and organics. Meteorite gardening of the regolith has made the surface smooth and drivable.
A possibly better use of lunar resources (IMO) is to build forgo human colonies on the surface, leaving autonomous automated systems instead. A human presence requires food, water, and other life-support resources which are not necessary to effectively on the lunar surface; automation requires only communications and a source of electrical power.
You are dreaming.....if we don't return humans to the moon , in a decade virtually no one under 40 will believe we ever went to the moon....the moon landing hoax theory, as absurd as it is, grows every day... Eventually there will be NO support for any space effort of any kind.
I wonder who would put their lives in the hands of rich people who own the water, the air, etc. Here on earth, billionaires have become masters of food and resources, as if they inherited them from their grandparents😢😢😢😢😢
There will be multiple competing companies providing life support. As a settler, if you can't get your air supply from Company A you buy from Company B and tell your fellow residents not to trust Company A if you value your life. Company A goes out of business.
@@dougspace6734 As a resident of one of the few countries in the world with privatised water utilities, I can assure you that the free market fantasy you depict is absolutely NOT how it actually works in the real world.
Gamers would pay subscription to pilot those off world miners and excavators. They could make 100s of mill a year on subs alone. You could use machine learning and AI to create an overlay that gives the illusion of instant movement, overcoming the latency due to the moon's distance, with a small video box in the corner with the live feed.
“International Space Agencies have done a better job of keeping it together better than any geopolitical group” 🎉❤
You mean by propping up the Russian space program! But not with the Chinese.
I remember living in the 90s and thinking why is this not happening. Thankfully several countries finally stepped up and started doing moon exploration.
Outer Space doesn't exist.Earth is the only World there is.There are no other Physical Cosmic
Worlds out there and there is no Infinite Cosmic Spatial Vacuum Void.Outer Space has "3 Enormous Problems":Problem 1 - Survivability - Cosmic Space is completely and inherently uninhabitable,
inhospitable and unliveable.This doesn't seem/feel right.If Outer Space truly existed
it should therefore be completely and inherently habitable,hospitable and liveable.If Outer Space was real it would be 100% welcoming of All-potential Beings,Creatures and Life-forms.This means that Outer Space must be "Breathable",because otherwise Everyone and Everything would immediately and perpetually suffocate and no Life-forms would ever emerge or survive in such a lethal Cosmic Universe.Problem 2 - Cosmic Travel - All-vehicles must push "Something" in order to move and go "Somewhere".In Earth's Atmosphere Automobiles push "Air" to move,Airplanes also push "Air" to move and Cruise Ships push "Water" to move,but Outer Space has no Atmosphere.You cannot travel to/in Outer Space,because The Vacuum of Space neutralizes All-pushing power/travel power.This means that Space Travel is impossible,that No One has ever left The Earth,that No One has ever traveled to Space and that every single Space Mission from the beginning to today is a lie.If Outer Space truly existed it would need to have an "Atmosphere" in order for Outer Space Travel to be possible.Problem 3 - Vast Separation - Celestial Space is just far too tremendously vast as a territory.All-Life-forms are separated,because of the "Humongous Distance" between them.This is not convenient.If Outer Space was real it wouldn't be so gargantuan,because it has to be much smaller and more "Tightly-Knit",so that All-potential Life-forms can locate and
discover each other.Outer Space is a lie designed in order to convince The Public that Extraterrestrial Beings exist.The total "Inhospitableness" and "Unfeasibility" of Outer Space proves that Outer Space cannot exist,because Outer Space doesn't exist!
What a great time to be alive
Well yes...And well no! And there are obvious parallels with the Apollo missions during which America, and the world, was also going through a tumultuous time! 🤔
But yeah, bad stuff that's happening in the world today aside, developments like these actually keeps me sane!
But it also feels like a race... Will we crack space, open up whole new worlds and industries, unify Humanity and usher in a new era of Peace as we finally make that transition to Type I Civilization...?
Or will negative events surge ahead and condemn our species back to the Stone Age... Or worse!?
Interesting Times Indeed!
I miss Blockbuster, libraries with books, and disco
Just wait 10 more years. We will see humanity establishing the first permanent footholds on the Moon and Mars largely thanks to the Starship fleet.
@@lillyanneserrelio2187 would you trade netflix, youtube and podcast, iphone and...taylor swift? for it?
@@dougspace6734 i think mars milestone are much farther then that, their just isn't that much to do on mars for the cost of it, and the living condition would be so horible. It would be cheaper to build city at the bottom of the ocean then on mars.
Finally that For All Menkind future we've been looking for!
Living on earth is akin to dwelling in a cocoon, which may explain why humans have fought for land since the beginning of time.
It will be future of NASA&ASEE "Advanced Automation for Space Missions" with Tesla-bot self-replicating fabric's. Robots will cover whole Moon in few years one gigantic Tesla-bot fabric, and it will be our gate to whole Solar System, whole Universe
This was so well made!! It's so great to find out about all these new companies and not see any retreading of past info about going to the moon.
Yes, I think that says it well.
Wrong! Read my post!
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😅😅.
Bringing this down to Earth, what difficulties the Antartica pioneers faced are key to planning? Those stations can be compared to potential planning of Moon or Mars colonies. The logistics and costs, & budgets, of maintaining these outposts will be the primary focus & provide the planning benchmarks going forward. That will help more accurately provide insight of the overall cost of this venture.
NASA would probably not even be interested in going back to the Moon if it wasn't for China wanting to go there. So, in a way I thank China for wanting to go there.
SpaceX would of gone anyways
@@cameronh3260SpaceX is hugely sponsored by NASA and the US government
Not even remotely, NASA's been trying to start a sustainable Lunar program since 1969, shortly after Apollo 11.
First it was part of the initial design process using the Space Shuttle with the Space Task Group, using tugs, multiple stations, and distributed launch to enable eventual Moon/Mars missions (until it was whittled down to the point that only the Shuttle remained). Then again in the 1989, trying to start something similar up again (the 90 day report), where only space station Freedom remained (which eventually evolved into the ISS), then in the early 2000s with Constellation with an Apollo-like architecture using a new Orion capsule, a Shuttle-Derived Super Heavy Lift Vehicle, and a new Lunar Lander, with plans for Mars/asteroid missions. Then a bit of a road block in 2011 with its cancellation, where only Orion and a redesigned SD-SHLV were left. Move to 2017 when Artemis was announced, and 2021/23 when SpaceX and Blue Orion were chosen to handle the Lunar Landers.
The road to returning to the Moon has had many false starts, and while it seems that it'll actually stick this time, we can't know for sure, because it's dependent on Federal funding. And Congress is responsable for the lack of funding in these programs. We probably could've returned to the Moon in the 80s, or not even had a gap if Apollo were allowed to continue until the Shuttle could take over. It's only in the last 20 years that Congress has really approved reasonable funding for a Lunar program, and even then, they didn't give NASA enough for Lander development, most of it is for SLS/Orion/Gateway (SpaceX and Blue are funding 50% themselves, which is good, mind you, but NASA didn't have enough to select both of them in 2021).
50 years later, nothing has changed. We only went to the moon because the Soviet Union was going.
Yeah. Other than flexing, this seems a pointless waste of time and money.
As an engineer the regolith will devour machinery (bearings/gears/motors). Solving this issue is crucial.
Very good point. I've been a mechanical engineer all my life. Even the most precisely made oil seal will fail. This moon dust will grind away at anything. New technology will be needed to overcome this.
@@rwkh10 indeed - but for those gullible enough to believe this delusional narrative, any huge problems are solved merely by slogans
Also no food water shelter and air let alone radiation , it will be endless hyper expensive resupply and medical costs .
lunar regolith is electrostatic, therefore applying a small current to a machine could repel dust and keep bearings clean. Hope you find this interesting!
@@kv-2heavytank52yes, regolith is electrostatically charged (by the way, also mars dust is charged) and causes electric fields of several kilovolt, so there is also problem of electrostatic discharging to be solved, not only mechanical issues. There is research being done on mitigation measures but I have seen no evidence of truly practical solutions, where the complications (eg adding special surfaces to everything, equipment, instruments, astronaut gear,..) could be acceptable. Still a huge unsolved problem in general.
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Living on earth is akin to dwelling in a cocoon, which may explain why humans have fought for land since the beginning of time.
Ai will so enhance the project management of this venture. Exponential improvement in space ship design and safety is just around the corner and can make this happen.
Yay... something new and real informative thank you ..
Read about the problems caused by moon dust for the Apollo astronauts.
Wowser, nasty stuff. Sounds like they have come up with a way to melt the high silica regolith in order to create a lunar glass launch pad, at least in earth trials.
Differences between the moon & Mars -
- Atmosphere (Mars has one)
- ISRU (can’t do Methane on the moon)
- Gravity (16% of earth’s vs. 37.6% of earth’s)
- Day length (14 days vs. 24.6 hours)
- Growing food (more can grow on Mars)
- Regolith (Lunar is really sharp, Martian is smother)
- Cosmic radiation (Lunar is same as that going to deep space, Mars is same as ISS even if unshielded).
There is evidence of CO2 ice in lunar cold traps. It might well be possible to generate methane on the Moon
i think lunar mining will need something more substantial than BigTrak
Madame Philips, je vous aime : As the world not a nation give me chills.
I love that crews will be picked politically rather than on who are the best qualified individuals.
Yeah, first scene of this video, and I'm like "of course...." 😦
What a mind-blowingly weird time to be alive! There's a chance we will have a ton of people living on the moon before we figure out how to make sure all the people on earth have shelter. It's like inventing aerosol deodorant before the wheel.
Luckily there’s zero chance of them successfully establishing people on the moon long term
Sadly there’s also zero chance money, power and tech will be used to help close the equality gap on earth
Living on earth is akin to dwelling in a cocoon, which may explain why humans have fought for land since the beginning of time.
I assume a lunar Economy will be centered around heavy industry, and potentially kick off once we begin to construct giant, rotating orbital habitats. (Benefits: 1G, location, optimal weather, and nature 365 days / year, easy access / commute to deep space, and earth + heavy orbital industry as well.)
It might also be slower, but more practical to construct such habitats in earth orbit, and to transfer them to other planets and moons in the solar system, since that means you also have a big habitat, industrial capabilities and a self-sustaining environment direct in the orbit of such planet, which would make colonization, or further exploration much easier, and reduce a lot of risk. The back draw would likely be, that it takes 50 - 100 years longer since you need viable, large habitats of that scale first.
Why 50 to 100 years ? Are you so used to NASA time ?
Once starship is operational, a big wheelestation can be made in 4 to 8 months. 🚀🏴☠️
@@MichaelWinter-ss6lx You are right, once we finally broke the curse of not beeing able to ship things to orbit for a reasonable price, things could develop very fast. In all sectors, e.g. if I think about planet hunting and maybe finding something that starts a new race to a new world. I would love if it goes faster. I have to admit, I was not aiming for the minimal viable product, though but thinking about a fully matured heavy industry with cylinders more in the ballpark off 10 x 50 kilometers 😅
@@MichaelWinter-ss6lx OP is presumably talking about something like an O'Neill habitat (you can google it or if you've seen 'Babylon 5', well, basically that) and 50-100 years is pretty optimistic in that case IMO. And no "something something Starship !" isn't going to change that appreciably, not in the real world.
Personally I don't see a lunar economy being based on "heavy industry" because why construct things on the Moon ? It's not rich in almost all the raw materials needed meaning they'd come from Earth, at least short-medium term. Why would we lift steel etc. into orbit, transport it to lunar orbit, drop it down the lunar gravity well, construct the habitats/pieces there only to have to lift them back _up_ again (even against "only" 1/6 g) ? Seems nonsensical. Cut out most of those steps by building in LEO.
No, by the time we're building things like O'Neill cylinders we'll be well established on the Moon and likely Mars too i'd say (assuming we get there at all of course).
@@anonymes2884 i think heavy industry will have to be the first major thing to move to space, we need to expand and grow, but we also need to look after our ecosystems and natural balances, moving polluting industries to space would significantly help this.
Perhaps we can find lunar substitutes to material, or begin development further afield in the asteroid belt.
But what's to say the moon isn't rich in resources? I thought that we only had a good idea of what is on the surface and a few centimeters below?
also, this 50 - 100 years assume linear technological development .. we are already well on the path of exponential growth with all things electronic
Please let me be alive to see a permanent Moon settlement :)
Thanks largely to the Starship fleet, you will see the first permanent habitats on the Moon in a bit less than 10 years from now.
no worries, you can always see it in a VR
Living on earth is akin to dwelling in a cocoon, which may explain why humans have fought for land since the beginning of time.
What is so special about that!
Two elephants in the Moon Outpost Forum are (1) the certain physiological/psychological long term impacts of spending an extended period in a low gravity, very hostile environment and (2) the basic cost/benefit analysis of these extended missions which would certainly offer great entertainment and science opportunities but at a cost that cannot possibly justify the missions. IMO the only motivation that will actually allow the missions to succeed in a sustainable way are military-related. Seldom mentioned, the military aspect of a Lunar presence has considerable value, especially if adversaries are establishing bases there. This latter consideration requires some study to fully appreciate.
this would be illegal and dangerous, no one should be able to launch something from the moon, that would be country destroying if it would make sense, which it still doesnt because everyone would be able to see that many hours before it lands and launch some countermeasure to move it, lasers are not going to be as effective going through the atmosphere, and a nuke can still be launched and land quicker.
Yeah one thing this vid didn't mention in the China segment is China already has territorial-like ambitions for the moon/space, comparing it to Scarborough Shoals/Fiery Cross Reef, the contested islands they claim belong to them deep in the South China Sea, if anything they are gonna likely be the ones most willing to posture that way in space the way they do on Earth
@planetsec9 agree. China's presence on the moon provides the USA with multiple reasons to do the same. I am impressed with their lunar accomplishments thus far but expect them to lag behind others going forward due to their non-cooperative approach to space missions. We'll see.
Who is non-cooperative !? Thats not China. Its America, after having failed to dictate Chinas innerpolitical matters, they just announced China illegal. 🚀🏴☠️
@@jlvandat69China is cooperative with other nations, it’s the US that prohibited China from cooperating with us in space explorations.
Nuclear power is the safest form of energy known to man. But what is the first question asked after it's mentioned? "Will there not be environmental considerations to producing nuclear power on the moon?" I'd suggest Financial Times research new reactors and fuel types being developed for Nuclear Power.
Don't be obtuse. It was a valid question because to the general public that question would be the first thing to come to mind. Even transporting the uranium for the project on a Starship would cause a media frenzy due to the possibility of it exploding in flight and spreading the radiation across a large area.
@@Nabroloin space¿ punt it a light year away. Problem solved. And he’s right ppl need to get up to speed
@@NabroloClearly you know nothing of nuclear power and only know the fear of weaponized warheads and piss poor security measures. Go do some research.
@@souljr. You clearly didn't understand their response. A journalist's job is to ask the questions the people want answered.
@@TheFartoholicFair. I definitely don't have a journalist mindset 😅
Earth: "How well can you work with low pay?"
Moon: "How well can you work with no oxygen?"
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Intuitive machines (Lunr) is trying to land mid november. Going up on a falcon 9. The stock might pop like a cherry. The entire management team is former nasa and private space company execs from other start-ups. This is an amazing time to be alive. Humans are amazing
It is a good thing for China to build a base on the moon. It forces the United States to invest resources in space instead of blowing the earth to pieces.
It’s not the US blowing things up at the moment, it’s allies of China…
*If the US do not trying to cheat, and using its early industrialization advantage, abuse and tear up "free market economy" it championed for 60 years, team up and blackmailing other advanced countries to block the raise of Japan, now China ... in the 2030s, 2040s we will be talking about "the race to put the first white people on Mars between China and United States*
How come some comments seem to having missing responses?
They crashed didn't they. Ooops. I think they may have a wee way to go.
@@richardcaves3601 not as far as NASA, with their Super Late Ship. Thank god we've finally got someone who wants to go to space, not just spend money.
20:18 Context on 600b gallons of water. It is about 3x annual use of city of Los Angeles (pop. 3.2m). Does not count water used for producing food for the population and other indirect consumption.
Very cool, but let's be a little more accurate here, Mars has about twice the strength of Gravity as Earth's Moon.
Nobody is ever going to build anything on the moon ever.
This video has been amended to correct the name of the person speaking during the Apollo 11 landing clip.
In the previous version of this video, a name strap at 13'18 showed Neil Armstrong's name. It should have read "Edwin 'Buzz' Aldrin".
We apologise for the error.
Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins. Don't forget them!
Thanks for the good story, FT.
They called him Buzz as he was afraid of Bees
*If the US do not trying to cheat, and using its early industrialization advantage, abuse and tear up "free market economy" it championed for 60 years, team up and blackmailing other advanced countries to block the raise of Japan, now China ... in the 2030s, 2040s we will be talking about "the race to put the first white people on Mars between China and United States*
Excellent video!! We are going !!🚀
Correction @ 24:31 Starship IFT1 was a prototype which had an aspirational goal of reaching orbit, but it's mission was to get off the pad; therefore, it has not failed.
It started self-destruction before liftoff then obliterated the pad.
If this was success, I really hope we never see failure.
"what are you, a rocket scientist?" just doesn't hold weight anymore. Apparently that's easy and not a highly complex iterative process full of testing that also includes not everything working smoothly immediately.
@@null090909say what .. the first one got off the pad but damaged the infrastructure which they repaired and upgraded .. the second one got off the pad all engines firing .. didn't damage the pad and got to space but not orbit .. it had a similar problem to the falcon 9 with fuel moving around when it did the return maneuver
destroys reality by making a big crunch implosive cavitation bubble@@null090909
@@null090909 What are you talking about??
We Are Going!
There is a lot of talk of extracting Oxygen, Hydrogen, and Helium 3: but is anyone looking into getting Nitrogen from the Moon? Plants we grow will need it, and adding it to the indoor atmosphere should make things more comfortable for lunar colonists.
Correct, this is all show and f-all substance.
Wow, very surprising article by FT. Excellent presentation, every article is well researched and presented. Am very impressed 🇿🇦👌
I'm surprised this video did not talk about the Chinese space program. It is in my opinion that they are ahead of the west by no less than 5 years. I would not be at all surprised to see a taikonaut on the moon by 2030.
Certainly makes sense to put up a moon colony first, so if people go crazy or just want to go back home, then we're right over here. Mars is insane. Out back WY & NV makes more sense.
SpaceX is absolutely committed to establishing a permanent base on Mars ASAP. Their engine production rate, Starship production rate, increasing Starlink revenue, and Earth-Mars windows means that SpaceX will be making multiple cargo landing attempts starting in 2026. Crazy or not (it's technically not) SpaceX is going to try sooner than later.
Living on earth is akin to dwelling in a cocoon, which may explain why humans have fought for land since the beginning of time.
I waited patiently through this video to hear your comments on the starship heatshield because it seems a little different?
I am thinking of opening a bicycle repair shop on the moon.
That's one of the more credible among the "hundreds of business models in dpace".
Jazz bar.
It seems we gonna up Pitch it to the moon!
I can see this being a possibility if leaving the earth’s gravity didn’t come at a high cost.
Living on earth is akin to dwelling in a cocoon, which may explain why humans have fought for land since the beginning of time.
Go SpaceX!!!!!
Weeeeeeee splat.
Gateway is the last bad decision that needs to be removed after the public SLS admission. Once they just focus on economic spending on a surface lunar base and channel said focus around resource acquistion and utilization(Water, o2, fuel to begin with and then more). Along side this you open up access to the rest of the surface with efficient hop vehicles that can refuel while beginning to really learn what it takes to mine and manufacture offworld along side all the human health research that has be missing outside of 1g and micro g enviroments. We've been capable of getting this rolling for dacades but it was never easy to sell politically until other countries like China put pressure on America with a 2nd space race. Take a second and imagine a scenario where the U.S was beaten to estabilishing a long term surface base and other countries began mining first etc. That would never sit well imo.
Yeah, if not for China, the US would not be going back to the Moon. Why NASA didn't go back for decades? It's because no one else was interested. For space enthusiasts like myself, I thank China for wanting to go to the Moon and beyond. The TV Show Firefly is slowly coming true. 😅
@@jukio02 SpaceX developing cheaper access to space has re-ignited the desire to go there. NASA has always wanted to populate space but politicians didn't see any benefit to it. Elon woke them up.
❤ Very well done! 🎉👏
I'm 73, but I'm very inspired by the possibility of helping mankind on a new adventure of evolution
That is so sad for me. I'm 30 and almost impossible to experience the lunar travel during my life span.
Same. Maybe if we make it to 80, we can get a trip up.
tbf, if you live only to average (depending on your country) you still have 50 or so years. We could see great advancements in anti-aging. 50 years is a long time in medicine and technology.
Great documentary!!
Sue Origin's Chode 1 rocket may be small, but at least it's largely useless :D
I enjoyed this production. Well done
i find that funny when she said the nuclear waste "need to be developt" as after 50 years it still haven't been done on earth, but honestly i don't find it being a big concern as with the low G of the moon you can easily launch it away.
But i think solar satelite powerplant with wireless beam energy transfert look like a more durable solution
Great
I am confused here.When Starship arrives in orbit ,it is empty because it can only carry so much fuel into orbit due to weight as well and not space. So how many tankers have to arrive in orbit to fill up just one Starship ??? How much heavier is this Starship compared to an Apollo space craft and LEM .
A great documentary. I especially enjoyed the personal end-statements of all the speakers =)
We would need to consider environmental impacts, a cause and effect scenario. With nuclear power, what expansions on safety protocols if a melt down, accident, or ignorance. Can the moon dust progress to problems like lead and asbestos exposure, if so then what protocols should be mandated. Even if additional safety procedures need to be included with some to offset tedious temperament, mental fatigue (considering the scope of the environment on the moon).
yes especially considering how many people and animals live and breath the pristine air on the moon.
@CorTec if colonized then contamination in close quarters could present problems and hazards. If moon farms, contamination with could present newer health issues that offset progression.
We have never developed an Antarctic economy exploiting Antarctic resources, despite the fact that for centuries we have been capable of reaching Antarticta. So why should we develop a lunar economy?
We're waiting for the ice to thin out and recede, courtesy of climate changes.....then the show will begin.😊
Try the Antarctic Treaty.
Thank you!
Regarding trash, I think lunar orbital debris is the thing to be worried about. Unlike earth, you don't have an atmosphere to degrade the orbit of junk.
Build a Force Field to keep the debris from orbiting into the Moons Atmosphere
If it happens will we trash the moon? The answer is yes!
This video was completely interesting right up until the 7 minute mark where it has to emphasized who were going to the moon. Not people of great scientific standing or excellent performance, no because they exhibit particular immutable traits. Seriously, every video talking about the crew of the Artemis 3 mission talks about the these traits, not their merits.
That is why we need private space companies, because we cannot rely on governments to send their best and brightest. No, the best and brightest have started space companies and hire the best and brightest based purely on merit. Well one particular company has anyway and the CEO of said company is pretty vocal about it too 😁
Wonderful graphics and edits....comparable to melody sheep 👍
AWESOME FINANCIAL TIMES !!!!
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I believe that it may take countries with sizable budgets to get it done, but someone should produce utilities for sale on the moon such as electricity from a nuclear power plant, communication satellites for internet and cell phones, fresh water, and natural gas maybe.
Between public accessible utilities and space rocket ride sharing, along with mass produced inflatable living and work modules, a lot of smaller countries, maybe even corporations or individuals, could set up shop on the moon. An industrial park if you like.
I’ve heard that some pharmaceuticals and crystals can be produced better in a weightless environment. If you build it, THEY WILL COME!
I’m thinking maybe the US could build a lunar nuclear power plant, communications satellite system, fuel depot, and a fresh water storage and distribution system, etc…. along with a living space and workspace collection yard for our own use, and then offer to sell all of it to other parties. I think the neighborhood would fill up pretty quick, actually. A real lunar city!
What you describe is useful in orbit around the Earth, but that is not economic reason for going to the Moon. It is far easier to get to low-Earth orbit than to land on the Moon.
What the Moon offers is resources that are already in space. Everything found on the Earth in terms on general mining for metals can be found on the Moon such as Iron, Aluminum, Silicon, Lithium, and all of the "rare earth" metals that are important in the 21st Century. Refining metals on the Moon may even be easier than on the Earth.
That's a good one.....the cable companies are going to set up first around the moon and sell you a package before you even launch.
The best use of the Starships fuel tanks would be gardening spaces if they can clean out the propellant substance.
Surely the temperature differential between the dark side and the sun-facing side of the moon is sufficient to provide all the power that we would need? There is nothing more green than sun power.
The idea of conflict arising over lunar resources is laughable. I have no doubt we'll have moon bases next decade, but the cost of upkeep and return will be such that nothing is worth bringing off the surface besides people and souvenirs. It's going to be easier to bring stuff from Earth for a while
in 100 years the space economy is gonna be huge! wish i could invest in spacex
Believe it when i see it. There's always a reason for not going back..
Living on earth is akin to dwelling in a cocoon, which may explain why humans have fought for land since the beginning of time.
13/ The concept of "Inteli Track" for lunar drones sounds like a significant advancement in rover mobility technology. This system would allow drones to adjust their tracks in real time, flattening or lengthening them by manipulating the rollers and carriage. Such adaptability would maintain a tight track while enabling the drone to traverse a wide range of lunar terrains more effectively. This dynamic track adjustment could improve stability on uneven surfaces, enhance traction in loose regolith, and even adapt to obstacles or inclines. Implementing such a system in lunar drones would merge robotics, mechanical engineering, and intelligent control systems, potentially revolutionizing lunar exploration and transportation.
17:00 We can't make money mining on earth, but we will make money mining on the moon. Trust me bruh!
Great report
So, why are we going to the moon again?
To figure out if there are real reasons to go there to begin with?
Blue Origin would be wise to stop trying to develop rockets and just focus on building the main infrastructure for the moon base, the infra on which all else is based. BO has experience with steering a large workforce and would be best suited for this task while smaller companies focus on the details, like technology and support equipment. Starship will be able to take on all the transport of materials etc. Bezos just needs to swallow his stupid pride.
We need 3 space stations between the Earth and moon for lunar missions
Let's get back to The Moon. Come on, people! LET'S GO!!!!!!!
Im down lets go I have sooo many questions thst can only be answered from the surface of the moon.
because everyone interviewed has a vested interest in seeing this succeed, its in no ones interest to mention that humans are not equipped to live outside earth's gravity for any meaningful length of time without serious physical and mental repercussions
We need power on the Moon and our best bet for that is Nuclear for sure ! .... I am all for it ! .... 👍 .... 🙂 ....
Diversifying is always good. Nuclear is an awesome option but it would be perhaps foolish to ignore the fact you can build solar panels pretty much from scratch from the resources there without causing the harm and risk we do when producing them at home.
@@antifusion Nuclear can provide us with baseline power ! .... Other options should also be explored for sure .... 👍 ....
@@41ankitt Totally agree
13:16 That's Buzz Aldrin speaking not Armstrong
Apologies, you are correct. We will amend the video, and issue a correction at the top of the comments.
@@FinancialTimes *If the US do not trying to cheat, and using its early industrialization advantage, abuse and tear up "free market economy" it championed for 60 years, team up and blackmailing other advanced countries to block the raise of chips of Japan in the 1980s 🤭, now China ... in the 2030s, 2040s we will be talking about "the race to put the first white people on Mars between China and United States*
24:28 Starhip early failures ? It has never performed a mission, how could it has failed ? Having setbacks while *developing* and *experimenting* is not "failing". The huge success of Falcon 9 should have make that clear.
Starship has not had "several failures", tests that achieve goals are not failures. Perhaps you prefer ULA's development methodology?
Keep telling yourself that…
16:25 Why chose hydroponic instead of aeroponic? in Aroponic noo need to worry about flow of liquid. In Aeroponic the air in buble is around 75-80% and 90-95% in the chanels with suply and PH regulators in the roots. chanels of air dont depend on gravity just air flow wich can be made easy buy ventilator. and Maintance of sediment clean can be easy because are in the chanel and not in the air wich was the first problem in the aeroponic.
In zero G i think aeroponic is better than hydroponic.
I cant believe we have not already deployed a satellite around the moon allowing us further exploring from orbit. I would think this could have been done by a rocket with autonomous systems to deploy the satellite once its in lunar orbit. imagine how much more about the moon we could already know. We could map the entire surface like Google Earth... that would be very beneficial...
I'm a huge fan of the Apollo programme and have read many books about the astronauts and the engineers who made it possible. It's puzzling, therefore, why I cannot get excited about returning humans to the Moon; an expensive and risky endeavour with dubious benefits. I'd far rather that our efforts in space were geared to more robotic missions that expanded our scientific knowledge. For example, let's fund missions to send landers to the icy moons of Jupiter and Saturn and explore their oceans.
We're literally doing all of that and more. Also, building our programs around human survivability is arguably the best way to translate space investment into benefits for people here on Earth.
Nobody forces you to go to the moon. If you prefer to stick your head in the sand, wont bother anybody either. But if we dont get people into space now, thats gonna be closed real soon. Orbit is getting crowded. Thats not only a competitive diversity of US satelites. There exist also other countries on this planet and they also want to use smartphones and web services etc. There is per definition enough space in space, until we are forced to see the danger of overcrowded orbits.
Same problem on the ground. But I've never heard of a problem being solved by just going back a step. 🚀🏴☠️
Question asking humans respond better to the unexpected.
That's an absolutely valid perspective i'd say. There's definitely a tension between human vs automated space exploration and the whole idea of a "Moon economy" is on pretty shaky ground economically (and possibly even morally IMO).
(He-3 is probably the biggest supposed lunar export for instance and not only have there been studies calculating that mining it on the Moon is unlikely to ever be economically viable, the whole enterprise is predicated on using it for generating power via nuclear fusion which, y'know, we can't actually _do_ yet and which is likely still decades away at best)
The space industry is starting to sound an awful lot like the crypto industry 5 years ago.
That should be a massive red flag for any investor.
With how far down Starship is pushing launch costs, it's almost hard to imagine a scenario where converting moon water into rocket fuel is cheaper than just launching the fuel from Earth. There are obviously more reasons to go to the moon than just extracting fuel, but I wouldn't be surprised if SpaceX develops a fuel tanker version of Starship.
I don't think it would be cheaper to get water to moon instead of mining for water on the moon ...
they already plan a fuel tanker variant, theyre gonna refuel in orbit to get to the moon
LOL: Starship doesn't work, so it isn't "bringing down launch costs". There's no universal "launch cost" either. Those numbers do not translate very far. Starlink costs don't translate to anything but Starlink.
“Sell that” to whom? This is all powerpoint wishes without funding.
Starship hasn’t even reached orbit, hasn’t pushed down launch costs by a penny yet…
It's strange that you didn't speak one word about india which just months ago landed in south pole, 1st country to do so and have very ambitious plans for future
India did a fantastic job but the mission wasnt a complete success, it didn’t land properly and battery died soon after it landed there. Also transporting humans is a completely different ball game. I hope they catch up
In 1969 a living room full of maschinery was needed for a computing power of a smartphone in 2023. Why don't we have lunar bases already and going there as tourists?
There is a positive in the Lunar environment being so hostile. It demands cooperation among the people living there. Cooperation literally becomes a matter of life and death.
How do you plan to counteract micro meteorites impacting on structures?
Since the moon is tidally locked with earth, only one side always faces us.... so building on that side would prevent this...
The Greatest Quotes with regards to The Moon:
Connie Conehead: "I think I'll have some Tang."
Prymatt Conehead: "Ah Tang, the drink astronauts took to The Moon."
Beldar Conehead: "Astronauts... to The Moon?"
Nice. But I still don’t know how people will make money on the moon? Tourism? (is not that profitable) Mining would be great, but a ways off.
Pre-packaged food would not be appetizing after six months but staples like flour, rice, tomato paste, etc., keep very well in a cabinet for a year or two. So take that stuff and make pizza with cheese made from cultured curds.
I've had some freeze died food that years later tasted fresh.
Not very nice when mixed with insidious Moon dust (silica) - poisonous! 😢
Who is singing and which song is it, the 'heavenly moon, I'm dreaming of somebody soon' song at the end, I can't find the song at all... at the credits of the video?
Awesome!! But can we please not be referring to robots as 'species'... we're walking blindly into Skynet😂😮
We can barely go on here and they waste resources to go other planets .. one thing is science , another is obsession.
This is is nothing but a distraction a cheap magicians trick. So we don't focus on the real news of the day. The real question is since they don't consider Palestinians to be human why don't they send them to the Moon?
This is literally the pathway to post scarcity civilization my guy
I must go to the moon 🌙
Watch out for unrendered clips that skipped through the edit/render! It's a bummer and happened to all of us.
There is plenty of ice on moon. But it's scattered and hidden in rugged surface.
NASA's 2009 LCROSS mission shoes us one place with high concentrations of both water ice and organics. Meteorite gardening of the regolith has made the surface smooth and drivable.
A possibly better use of lunar resources (IMO) is to build forgo human colonies on the surface, leaving autonomous automated systems instead. A human presence requires food, water, and other life-support resources which are not necessary to effectively on the lunar surface; automation requires only communications and a source of electrical power.
You are dreaming.....if we don't return humans to the moon , in a decade virtually no one under 40 will believe we ever went to the moon....the moon landing hoax theory, as absurd as it is, grows every day...
Eventually there will be NO support for any space effort of any kind.
Here's hoping in less than 100 years we can repeat what we once did.
Super interesting!
I wonder who would put their lives in the hands of rich people who own the water, the air, etc. Here on earth, billionaires have become masters of food and resources, as if they inherited them from their grandparents😢😢😢😢😢
There will be multiple competing companies providing life support. As a settler, if you can't get your air supply from Company A you buy from Company B and tell your fellow residents not to trust Company A if you value your life. Company A goes out of business.
@@dougspace6734 As a resident of one of the few countries in the world with privatised water utilities, I can assure you that the free market fantasy you depict is absolutely NOT how it actually works in the real world.
Living on earth is akin to dwelling in a cocoon, which may explain why humans have fought for land since the beginning of time.
Gamers would pay subscription to pilot those off world miners and excavators. They could make 100s of mill a year on subs alone. You could use machine learning and AI to create an overlay that gives the illusion of instant movement, overcoming the latency due to the moon's distance, with a small video box in the corner with the live feed.
i dont think we should mine the moon considering we need its stable gravity pull to remain the same because of earth tides
The impact would be negligible