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Hi Mel.. That video was well worth watching.. I have only ever fitted one heater to my main fuel tank, I was on the Brecon's for 10 days in freezing weather, when i came to leave i ran out of diesel 3 mile down the road.. Since then I have all ways used a second tank and run it on red.. We buy it 2,000 ltrs at a time and we pay about 50p ltr.. Its a no brain'er and must be done.. They will also run on home heating fuel.. Cheers bud
Good job Mel. Nice to see someone cut through the bullshit and get straight to the point. Very informative. I've put a T piece on my main fuel line, a one way valve and a tap. With around half meter of fuel hose in the engine bay. If I run short of red while I'm away, I can fill a 5l Jerry can and chuck that in the heater tank. Also have a switch to trigger the vans own in tank fuel pump relay so there's no extra pumps etc. Works quite nice lol
Hi guys, Because I live in the country side I don’t have gas !!! Just electric, My house is also not connected the sewer system . And rain water is collected in tanks which makes my water cost nearly nothing, So my the heating in my house is powered by heating oil last delivery to my house 0.40p a litre 3000 litres And can also keep your cars heating system warm 🙈🙈🙈
Hi Mel. The only time red diesel was allowed to be used on British roads was during the fuel blockades and the only vehicles that were allowed to use it was lorries that removed dead animal carcasses and waste from the slaughter houses to the rendering plants. All the lorries was escorted with a police escort to make sure the fuel wasn't stolen. Also if you do use red diesel in a vehicle, it's designed to stain the tank and everything it touches so that the customs and excise know if you have been using it. Great video
It's duty free, the only time it's allowed to be used on public highways is by farmers and construction vehicles, it don't stain anything, and your talking bollacks there have never been police escorting vehicles using red diesel in case it was stolen, its readily available and anybody can by it, and as if HMRC, are bothered by some motorists saving £20-£30 by using it on public roads, their resources are used up chasing real tax evaders like those owe hundreds of thousands of pounds
@@BillSikes. you ain't got a clue what your talking about. Mel tells you the govt crush your vehicle if your caught with it in your in a vehicle. And it does stain. Ask any diesel mechanic
@@d144545r, it's Bollacks, they don't crush your vehicle, they take you to court where you'll get points and a fine, it don't stain nothing, what you're suggesting is the HMRC tear people's motors apart looking for red stains, get real mate, they got better things to do than fuck about pulling peoples cars apart looking for red stains
I'm sitting again 😅 it's still hissing it down in Wales. Nothing better to watch than Mells happy teachings. SWANSEA on full LOCKDOWN.🙄. . I feel that I may now have the confidence to fit my heater if I can go inyo a seperate tank. I'm edging up in years and going under a van would be a struggle. Its all about taking my time and doing my build slowly. My question is 1 - do you get combustion, pressure from the external tank. 2- can it explode 😂 let's hope not 😅. I think from your expression the tank is very expensive? Brilliant 🦋
didnt say where you can get it though and not all shell gargaes sell red diesel same applies to all the other garages, it only seems to be available in certain areas for some reason , none of which are in Northamptonshire. Ive called the garages head offices.
Hi Mel great vid if anyone tells you you can take the colour out you can but it's a chemical marker and they don't bother checking the tank Anymore they use a probe up the exhaust and use a spectrum analysis machine. Anyways love the vids had the 2kw Chinese heater and it's been faultless for a month happy days.
Great video, ordered the tank, will use red diesel, was thinking about using main tank, but the saving will pay for the new tank in 6 refills.. top stuff.
We have tax free diesel here in norway to. The color they add to that diesel will contaminate your fuel tank on your car and it will take many months of normal fuel before it will go away. So if you use it on your car, then the test kits they use, will see it. But that is the diesel i use for my heater to. Nice video. Keep up the good work !! And hope you soon have a happy new year
BUGGERY MATE YOU SHURE DO FLAPPP ALONG A LOT KRIKEE RED ANYTHING OFF ROAD FARM ESPECIALLY THE ALL SORTS OF OTHER BUGGERS BUT SOME OF THESE FUELS HAVE VARYING AMOUNTS OF SULPHUR ASWELL ALL THE BEST 👍
it would be ashame if someone accidentally installed a hidden switch and extra fuel pump, which just happen to switch from road fuel to red fuel, thus allowing you to switch tanks and burn off the red fuel that's in the lines, just incase you get stopped or have inspections (don't forget about the diesel filter, it will need some extra time to flush out red fuel. it may be worth adding solenoid and second line with its own filter so when switched over it would only take a few seconds to clear out of the system, would pay for itself in no time and could be done for less than 300 i'm sure.) Maybe connect another 20 liter tank of red fuel, you know for those really long cold stretches when out in the boonies. All of this being for extreme emergencies only of course, would want to gyp the Queen mum there now would we...
IN THE. U S A RED IS HIGH SULPHUR FOR FARM AND ASSORTED OFF ROAD EQUIPMENT AND BLUE-ISH-GREEN-ISH FUEL IS LOW SULPHUR NO ROAD TAX FOR OFF ROAD AND TAX ON BLUE GREEN FUELOIL
Since 2010 Duty is payable on private Boat Fuel......when it is used for propulsion. allowance is made for generator and heating use @ 60% is assumed for propulsion Engine....so duty is payable on that proportion....40% is untaxed. the purchaser declares their own proportions....some people declare 100% tax free.....
I'm just wondering how quiet these things are. I'm also going to start vanlife and the only reason I'm considering a diesel heater is because u can leave it on overnight because it expels the hazardous gases outside unlike a propane heater (eg. Mr. Buddy).
Eric Yuan they are probably the safest way to heat your van when they first start up they sound like a hand dryer but when up to temperature the fan slows down and really quiet but the fuel pump ticks you soon get used to it though 🤓🤙
@@BigVanSmallWorld Thanks. I'm so glad the Espar patent expired. Literally the cost of heating a van, (long term, not half assing anything) in a Canadian winter went down from $1200 to $300.
As you stated we have red or dyed diese here in Canada just don't get caught running that fuel in your tanks in your personal car or even your work truck $500 fine 😖
A friend had his year old Range Rover seized never to be seen again in 1996 here in the U.K. We couldn't believe it and accused him of being a skin flint but he lost £30k for his motor and a fine etc
Mel.. I'm ex hgv driver.. The fine in UK is a minimum of £1,000. They impound your vehicle and remove the tank, they can tell how long you have been running on red, They then do you for TAX evasion upto 10 time the cost and can even be imprisoned...
Good vid mate, was going to plumb my heater into the fuel tank, when it arrives. TBH I’d never thought about red diesel. Definitely given my something to think about 🤔👍🏻
There are easier options than that.. the dye can easily be removed, however the trace chemical is much harder, so although your red looks white, a simple roadside chemical test, would prove otherwise, and hello impound and hefty fine... Has anyone tried straight kerosene domestical heating oil in one of these? Price per litre is cheaper than red, although I'm not too sure if the lower flash point would make for a weaker combustion? Great video, as always Mel. ATB and HNY to you chap..
@@team-118 My brother was using heating oil in his old Range Rover. He found the acceleration from a stand still absolutely hopeless but persevered until the fuel destroyed the cylinder head on a motorway journey. So not recommended.
most people believe red diesel or gas oil is normal derv with dye added, not quite correct as white is categorised as en590 and the red does not meet the same standards or burn the same, i would run your heater on kerosene if compatable,higher calorific value hence more bang for your pennies.
@@astront917 iv no idea i just assumed it was regular diesle with dye in it .i know you get premium diesel at the pumps but why would you make a shyte grade diesel rather then just add dye too a regular diesel and not colect the revenue on it ?
@@peteramberley9952 red diesel or gas oil is or was originally used for agricultural engines,farm machinery,generators etc, nowadays modern engines are finely engineered and require an optimum fuel.sure they may run on non en590 red but alot of fuel suppliers sell an additional additive to the red to meet en590 spec. Some but not all tractor manufacturers spec en590 fuel only or no warranty, I can only speak from experience but if I had spent 250,000 pounds on machinery I'd like my warranty to be intact.
I bought my van with the diesel tank already fitted behind the driver's seat. I've been told its not safe there and I should put it straight to the fuel tank. After watching this I'm not too sure. Is the tank ok just behind the driver seat? If I'm going to pay to relocate it would it be better just to put the fuel line straight into the main tank? Any advice gratefully received!
Now that red Diesel is getting harder to find I’d say absolutely plum into the main tank you will save on valuable space inside your van and also save yourself the headache if that fuel tank behind your seat should leak. diesel is really smelly and horrible good luck 🤞
hi mel love your money saving tips. i went and got 2 campingaz cylinders cos of your previous vid on them. keep up the brilliant work.p.s. im currently looking at vans on ebay to convert.
Hi Mel i haven't installed my chinezium diesel heater yet but one of the many guys who has reviewed them says run them on Kerosine , its supposed to stop them sooting up when running on lower temp settings , this appears to be the main problem with them what's your view on it ? I know from experience garage space heaters hated cherry and burned a lot better on Kerosine. regards Andy
Why not make your own diesel? See your local fish and chip shop and offer to dispose of their old oil, easy to convert to diesel only problem is that your exhaust smells of fish. Surely that is not illegal in the UK? It is quite legal here so much so that it is hard to get hold of the oil
Actually, another RUclipsr has his van fitted so as to use both regular and biodiesel, but the cooking oil diesel must be pre-heated first, so he has done some mods. I think it is "beyond the van".
Biodiesel is a thing of the past here since oil recyclers snatched all the recyclable oil and made it too expensive. Making it involves draino (lyle), methanol, cooking oil and a 44gallon drum - not worth it otherwise - once made and filtered it Is used just like ordinary diesel no need for heating but like I say not economic here any more.
We pay tax on red diesel on pleasure boats it is a 60/30 split on the tax if you have a diesel heater on board here on the Norfolk Broads we pay about £1.09 per Litre
Up here in Scotland on the west coast we don’t have gas, so everybody has oil central heating. So if you’re on your travels and come to the prettiest part of this island, you’ll be able to find it. Good luck with the rest of your build, I’ve done a Transit Van conversion myself and I like to see how other people’s conversions turn out.
keith lester I love the Scots you guys really know how to party I used to go to T in the park every year and was all ways the best festival of them all don’t know if I would come your way in the winter though I’m a softy southerner lol I tend to follow the sun. Thanks for the tip tough really appreciated 🤓🤙
You’ve got a night heater, no need to worry about the weather. You’ll get a better welcome here than anywhere else you can name. We’ve travelled all over Europe in our van and the Scots seem to get a good welcome everywhere we go. Maybe we’re just great people eh! 😂
Hi Mel, do you know where i can get red diesel in Kent? I tried that same petrol station you went to but they changed ownership and are not doing red diesel anymore, hope you see this and thanks
@@BigVanSmallWorld I've just checked. It seems the use of red diesel for propulsion is not allowed in the EU neither. There has been something happening wrt it being used in boats but there doesn't seem to be any difference in the use of it for plant (Chinese diesel heaters and triffids included) so as long as you can get it it seems carry on heating...
@@BigVanSmallWorld I am follow you from iraq and I live in iraq and we have it normal we can use is on the car . But my question was if it's bad for the engine or normal . Thank you 🙂
How much diesel does it burn mel ,? How long will 10 litres last for ? I had a polish guy buy a bike of me once ,when he opened the side door on his transit van 100 s of empty cooking oil bottles fell out.he was paying 60 p for a litre of vedgetable oil from tescos, he reckoned he drove 1000 miles on it.
Great Vid Mel, thanks for sharing. I'm planning on installing one of these heaters, do they sell red diesel in Europe as I plan on going there. Or can you mix the two if not? Sub'd!
Thank you for your support and encouragement really appreciated yes you can mix it it’s perfectly fine not sure about availability in Europe I would think it’s the same 👍🤓👍
You can get an exemption certificate for red that has to be filled out before you use red on the road. This saves you from draining the tank when you take a vehicle on a public high way. You still have to pay the duty. This certificate must be filled out and you must carry with you on the Journey. You need a certificate for each journey.
Stag Man good morning thank you for subscribing really appreciate it. As far as I can tell the vented lid only vents one way to prevent vacuum building up in the tank. So no no small at all and I’m really careful when fuelling up having a cloth ready just in case. I’m really pleased with this tank I actually just ordered another one for water 🤓🤙
Mel, why on earth would you use red diesel when your diesel heater will work perfectly well if not better on kerosene ( heating oil) ? Its far cheaper and you can get it from the pump at some fuel stations. The vat on red is 20% whereas its only 5% on kero . Not so long ago I payed just over 50p a litre for kero ( heating oil) admittedly that's for a 1000 litres in my home oil tank.
By chance did Ireland go green to stop it being shipped into UK and sold on black market. There was a interesting documentary where some Welsh fellow was flogging cheap Irish fuel to his neighbours. Followed for months by customs. Went to court think only fined a few hundred pounds, came out of court with a smile on his face, must of costs thousands to get to prosecute.
Forgot the link www.gov.uk/government/publications/excise-notice-75-fuel-for-road-vehicles/excise-notice-75-fuel-for-road-vehicles "Use" of the fuel isnt restricted to just running the engine so saying its only for a heater wont work. Shower, engine, heater, whatever youre "using" red diesel in your vehicle.
If you already have oil fired central heating you ok, but the min purchase is about 250L it costs about 50p per Litre government always wins, we are Born FREE and taxed til DEATH.
LOL Xmas video vanished fast enough .. LOL ! 'WHAT !!The drunk family video went world WIDE !! ARRGGHH!! .. WHACK!" Good one. Solar electricty is FREE, oil is not.
Mel’s World your doing well! I do like your videos. Only talking about you today with mate who’s a professional converter. He liked the relocation of the heater fuel tank. 👍🏻
Good job Mel. Can you notice the smell inside your van for a while after you've filled your tank? In the summer when temps are high, the pressure inside the tank may come out through the breather as my motorbike stinks out my shed on hot days although it's petrol. I just open the door for a while though to help sort it out.
@@Pugwash. I understand that but The smell of diesel is quite sickening to me. The smell of diesel used to trigger sea sickness when sailing with the engine running for assistance. Or spilt diesel from filling the tank mid journey as the boat was rocking. Petrol never ever made me want to vomit. For this reason I have my heater diesel coming from the main tank although when it comes into the hotter months, if Mel can't smell diesel in his van I may change my mind and fit a tank in the back and use home heating oil as it's even cheaper than red.
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Just purchased a Chinese diesel heater for my campervan,this is a great bit of info,Thanks Mel 👍
No worries mate good luck with it 👍🤓
So glad I found your video.
I now use red diesel and nearly half the price. Thanks
You are welcome 😂👍🤓
Hi Mel.. That video was well worth watching.. I have only ever fitted one heater to my main fuel tank, I was on the Brecon's for 10 days in freezing weather, when i came to leave i ran out of diesel 3 mile down the road.. Since then I have all ways used a second tank and run it on red.. We buy it 2,000 ltrs at a time and we pay about 50p ltr.. Its a no brain'er and must be done.. They will also run on home heating fuel.. Cheers bud
Wondering Womble thank You appreciate your positive feedback 🤓🤙
Good job Mel. Nice to see someone cut through the bullshit and get straight to the point. Very informative.
I've put a T piece on my main fuel line, a one way valve and a tap. With around half meter of fuel hose in the engine bay. If I run short of red while I'm away, I can fill a 5l Jerry can and chuck that in the heater tank. Also have a switch to trigger the vans own in tank fuel pump relay so there's no extra pumps etc. Works quite nice lol
sounds like you have a great little set up well done :)
@Tom Lennon oh its nothing naughty. It's just a supply of regular diesel from the tank. So I have my own "on board diesel pump" ⛽
If it dont run on cherry it aint worth avin
Hi guys,
Because I live in the country side I don’t have gas !!! Just electric,
My house is also not connected the sewer system . And rain water is collected in tanks which makes my water cost nearly nothing,
So my the heating in my house is powered by heating oil last delivery to my house 0.40p a litre 3000 litres
And can also keep your cars heating system warm 🙈🙈🙈
Hi Mel. The only time red diesel was allowed to be used on British roads was during the fuel blockades and the only vehicles that were allowed to use it was lorries that removed dead animal carcasses and waste from the slaughter houses to the rendering plants. All the lorries was escorted with a police escort to make sure the fuel wasn't stolen. Also if you do use red diesel in a vehicle, it's designed to stain the tank and everything it touches so that the customs and excise know if you have been using it. Great video
It's duty free, the only time it's allowed to be used on public highways is by farmers and construction vehicles, it don't stain anything, and your talking bollacks there have never been police escorting vehicles using red diesel in case it was stolen, its readily available and anybody can by it, and as if HMRC, are bothered by some motorists saving £20-£30 by using it on public roads, their resources are used up chasing real tax evaders like those owe hundreds of thousands of pounds
@@BillSikes. you ain't got a clue what your talking about. Mel tells you the govt crush your vehicle if your caught with it in your in a vehicle. And it does stain. Ask any diesel mechanic
@@d144545r, it's Bollacks, they don't crush your vehicle, they take you to court where you'll get points and a fine, it don't stain nothing, what you're suggesting is the HMRC tear people's motors apart looking for red stains, get real mate, they got better things to do than fuck about pulling peoples cars apart looking for red stains
Try adding something positive twat
that's interesting i know it can be used on the road under license but the duty has to be paid
Good thing i am colorblind. Discrimination against the disabled is illegal.
I'm sitting again 😅 it's still hissing it down in Wales. Nothing better to watch than Mells happy teachings. SWANSEA on full LOCKDOWN.🙄. .
I feel that I may now have the confidence to fit my heater if I can go inyo a seperate tank. I'm edging up in years and going under a van would be a struggle. Its all about taking my time and doing my build slowly. My question is 1 - do you get combustion, pressure from the external tank. 2- can it explode 😂 let's hope not 😅. I think from your expression the tank is very expensive? Brilliant 🦋
didnt say where you can get it though and not all shell gargaes sell red diesel same applies to all the other garages, it only seems to be available in certain areas for some reason , none of which are in Northamptonshire. Ive called the garages head offices.
Hi Mel great vid if anyone tells you you can take the colour out you can but it's a chemical marker and they don't bother checking the tank
Anymore they use a probe up the exhaust and use a spectrum analysis machine.
Anyways love the vids had the 2kw
Chinese heater and it's been faultless for a month happy days.
that's really interesting I didn't know that thank you and glad you are happy with your heater :)
As usual Mel.. Great video
Thank you 😊
You can’t beat a bit of pink 👍
Great vid 😀
Best Regards Me, He and Her 👍😀🐾
One Man and His Whippet Dave Bertholini thanks Dude 🤓🤙
Great video, ordered the tank, will use red diesel, was thinking about using main tank, but the saving will pay for the new tank in 6 refills.. top stuff.
That’s brilliant please be careful of the vented lid I broke mine today I knocked off the little button 😞
We have tax free diesel here in norway to. The color they add to that diesel will contaminate your fuel tank on your car and it will take many months of normal fuel before it will go away. So if you use it on your car, then the test kits they use, will see it. But that is the diesel i use for my heater to. Nice video. Keep up the good work !! And hope you soon have a happy new year
that's interesting sounds like the same here. happy new year to you too :)
Great Mel ,👌👌
Ya' living the perfect Life.....
🦅free as a bird 🦅
Thank you 🙏
Damn if only everyone in the UK was like you, everyone just seems so depressed.
Haha cheers 🍻 🤓👍
BUGGERY MATE YOU SHURE DO FLAPPP ALONG A LOT KRIKEE
RED ANYTHING OFF ROAD FARM ESPECIALLY THE ALL SORTS OF OTHER BUGGERS BUT SOME OF THESE FUELS HAVE VARYING AMOUNTS OF SULPHUR ASWELL ALL THE BEST 👍
Thank you ☺️
You keep saving all this coin Mel you'll have Marley and the other 3 visiting you next Xmas eve
hahaha brilliant :)
it would be ashame if someone accidentally installed a hidden switch and extra fuel pump, which just happen to switch from road fuel to red fuel, thus allowing you to switch tanks and burn off the red fuel that's in the lines, just incase you get stopped or have inspections (don't forget about the diesel filter, it will need some extra time to flush out red fuel. it may be worth adding solenoid and second line with its own filter so when switched over it would only take a few seconds to clear out of the system, would pay for itself in no time and could be done for less than 300 i'm sure.) Maybe connect another 20 liter tank of red fuel, you know for those really long cold stretches when out in the boonies. All of this being for extreme emergencies only of course, would want to gyp the Queen mum there now would we...
Nicely explained. I live in the sticks and have a heating oil tank. It's usually cheaper in summer so I'll be syphoning some off into my van heater.
IN THE. U S A RED IS HIGH SULPHUR FOR FARM AND ASSORTED OFF ROAD EQUIPMENT
AND BLUE-ISH-GREEN-ISH FUEL IS LOW SULPHUR
NO ROAD TAX FOR OFF ROAD AND TAX ON BLUE GREEN FUELOIL
Since 2010 Duty is payable on private Boat Fuel......when it is used for propulsion.
allowance is made for generator and heating use
@ 60% is assumed for propulsion Engine....so duty is payable on that proportion....40% is untaxed.
the purchaser declares their own proportions....some people declare 100% tax free.....
Thanks Mel i did not no about price thanks i just bought a diesel heater
No worries good luck with the installation 👍🤓👍
I'm just wondering how quiet these things are. I'm also going to start vanlife and the only reason I'm considering a diesel heater is because u can leave it on overnight because it expels the hazardous gases outside unlike a propane heater (eg. Mr. Buddy).
Eric Yuan they are probably the safest way to heat your van when they first start up they sound like a hand dryer but when up to temperature the fan slows down and really quiet but the fuel pump ticks you soon get used to it though 🤓🤙
@@BigVanSmallWorld Thanks. I'm so glad the Espar patent expired. Literally the cost of heating a van, (long term, not half assing anything) in a Canadian winter went down from $1200 to $300.
Eric Yuan wow that’s incredible massive savings 🤓🤙
Used to run my off road Discovery on Kerosene with a drop of oil, works a treat and about 52p a litre at the moment?
well done :)
Kerosene with seals. You must have an update by now. Kerosene eats rubber and silicone.
@@mabusinyambane2609 Modern cars use synthetic rubber.
In what ratio?
@@varticovidiu9894 Just put enough oil in the kerosene so it matches Diesel viscosity
$ 3.75 A GALLON ON ROAD
AND $3.00 FOR OFF ROAD OR RED THERE IM DUN MILTON ERNEST FOR EVER 🤙👍😉
We call it off road deasil in the states, No road tax.
or no2 fuel oil
Thats interesting thanks for sharing 🤓🤙
As you stated we have red or dyed diese here in Canada just don't get caught running that fuel in your tanks in your personal car or even your work truck $500 fine 😖
Expedite Travels that’s interesting. I think the fine here in the UK is around 500 bucks too plus they crush your vehicle or in pound it 🤓🤙
A friend had his year old Range Rover seized never to be seen again in 1996 here in the U.K.
We couldn't believe it and accused him of being a skin flint but he lost £30k for his motor and a fine etc
@@BigVanSmallWorld for running red diesel?? Wow unbelievable
Well in Finland, that's a tax fraud, and if you'll get caught, the fine will be astronomical.
Mel.. I'm ex hgv driver.. The fine in UK is a minimum of £1,000. They impound your vehicle and remove the tank, they can tell how long you have been running on red, They then do you for TAX evasion upto 10 time the cost and can even be imprisoned...
Brilliant video and excellent channel. Thanks for posting Mel 😀👌
Thank you really appreciate your encouragement and support 👍🤓👍
Good vid mate, was going to plumb my heater into the fuel tank, when it arrives. TBH I’d never thought about red diesel. Definitely given my something to think about 🤔👍🏻
that's good to know well done :)
Thanks Mel, another really helpful video, cheers x
you are welcome. thank you for positive feedback really appreciated :)
I’m fitting out my 1989 VW T3, watching all your build videos - you make me laugh very time! Keep doing what you’re doing, its fab xx
Thank you Luana that’s nice to know and good luck with your build hope it goes well for you keep me updated thanks for watching and your support 🤓🤙
Hi Mel, I was told by someone once that you can remove the red dye by filtering it thru cat litter. 👀 if you can be bothered that is. 👍🏻🎉🚐
There are easier options than that.. the dye can easily be removed, however the trace chemical is much harder, so although your red looks white, a simple roadside chemical test, would prove otherwise, and hello impound and hefty fine...
Has anyone tried straight kerosene domestical heating oil in one of these? Price per litre is cheaper than red, although I'm not too sure if the lower flash point would make for a weaker combustion?
Great video, as always Mel. ATB and HNY to you chap..
@@team-118 Hi, ..As i said, if you could be bothered. Better off mixing oil from your local chippy 50/50 with Diesel from the pump. 🧐👍🏻🚐
Cat litter absorbs the diesel so you would lose it not filter. You would have an easier time running it past coffee filters to have them grab the red.
@@team-118 My brother was using heating oil in his old Range Rover. He found the acceleration from a stand still absolutely hopeless but persevered until the fuel destroyed the cylinder head on a motorway journey. So not recommended.
It was initially produced as an agricultural fuel
That’s what i understand it to be 🤓🤙
most people believe red diesel or gas oil is normal derv with dye added,
not quite correct as white is categorised as en590 and the red does not meet the same standards or burn the same,
i would run your heater on kerosene if compatable,higher calorific value hence more bang for your pennies.
maybe true but I just wanted to help people that don't know about red diesel understand its purpose :)
So are you telling me someone is putting a substandard diesel in his £50,000 volvo / cattapila marine engines ?
@@peteramberley9952 that depends on the red diesel,is it en590 red or non en590 that some manufacturers do not allow in modern engines.
@@astront917 iv no idea i just assumed it was regular diesle with dye in it .i know you get premium diesel at the pumps but why would you make a shyte grade diesel rather then just add dye too a regular diesel and not colect the revenue on it ?
@@peteramberley9952 red diesel or gas oil is or was originally used for agricultural engines,farm machinery,generators etc, nowadays modern engines are finely engineered and require an optimum fuel.sure they may run on non en590 red but alot of fuel suppliers sell an additional additive to the red to meet en590 spec.
Some but not all tractor manufacturers spec en590 fuel only or no warranty,
I can only speak from experience but if I had spent 250,000 pounds on machinery I'd like my warranty to be intact.
Separate tank allows you to use different fuels, you forgot to mention the Gvt puts a red dye in the diesal which gives it its colour
aly davidson no he never. Lmao
Thanks for taking the time to make this video 👍
Ecologise you are welcome thanks for the positive feedback really appreciated 🤓🤙
I bought my van with the diesel tank already fitted behind the driver's seat. I've been told its not safe there and I should put it straight to the fuel tank. After watching this I'm not too sure. Is the tank ok just behind the driver seat? If I'm going to pay to relocate it would it be better just to put the fuel line straight into the main tank? Any advice gratefully received!
Now that red Diesel is getting harder to find I’d say absolutely plum into the main tank you will save on valuable space inside your van and also save yourself the headache if that fuel tank behind your seat should leak. diesel is really smelly and horrible good luck 🤞
Used to buy red diesel from gypsies
Great info and advice
Ash 🏴
No worries mate 👍🤓
Yes well worth putting red in for the heater.
shaun cains I think so 🤓🤙thank you for watching 🤙
hi mel love your money saving tips. i went and got 2 campingaz cylinders cos of your previous vid on them. keep up the brilliant work.p.s. im currently looking at vans on ebay to convert.
Shaun Kelly that’s good to know makes making these vlogs worthwhile good luck with your search for a van 🤓🤙
Hi Mel i haven't installed my chinezium diesel heater yet but one of the many guys who has reviewed them says run them on Kerosine , its supposed to stop them sooting up when running on lower temp settings , this appears to be the main problem with them what's your view on it ? I know from experience garage space heaters hated cherry and burned a lot better on Kerosine.
regards Andy
Hi Mel, I just use domestic heating oil - cheaper than red diesel.
yes but i don't know where i could buy 10 llt ay a time ?
Mel’s World my local petrol station has a pump & is cheaper than red
Great stuff, really like ur channel it's super helpful. I'm a new subscriber
Thanks for sharing
Thank you really appreciate your support and encouragement please feel free to share on Facebook and any other media cheers 🍻 👍🤓
Why not make your own diesel? See your local fish and chip shop and offer to dispose of their old oil, easy to convert to diesel only problem is that your exhaust smells of fish. Surely that is not illegal in the UK? It is quite legal here so much so that it is hard to get hold of the oil
Actually, another RUclipsr has his van fitted so as to use both regular and biodiesel, but the cooking oil diesel must be pre-heated first, so he has done some mods. I think it is "beyond the van".
Biodiesel is a thing of the past here since oil recyclers snatched all the recyclable oil and made it too expensive. Making it involves draino (lyle), methanol, cooking oil and a 44gallon drum - not worth it otherwise - once made and filtered it Is used just like ordinary diesel no need for heating but like I say not economic here any more.
I run my 4x4 for years on veggie oil :) but it won't work in the heaters :)
its ok to use it as heating oil :)
interesting :)
good info Mel. 😎
Wow good to know !
You are absolutely welcome 👍🤓👍
You're brilliant, Mel!
Kellie Thorne thank you 😊🤓🤙
Nice one Mel had to like and Sub after watching that tip !!!
We pay tax on red diesel on pleasure boats it is a 60/30 split on the tax if you have a diesel heater on board here on the Norfolk Broads we pay about £1.09 per Litre
davidj837 oh I didn’t realise that thanks for the update 🤓🤙
How long would you say 10 litres of fuel lasts in those Chinese heaters?
on full it would last about 24 hours but would cook the inside of my van lol last winter i used about 5 litres a week
Useful
Oh good 😅
Very informative Mel
thank you :)
I wonder about driving an electric car as it's being charged by a generator powered by red diesel.
That’s about rite 👍😊👍
Top video,top tip cheers mate I’ll be on this for my heater lol
Paul Wolfsburg T5 Van glad to be of service 🤓🤙
Stroooth mate.. im learnin way to much stuff here .. fabbo .. jolly good carryon pip pips ..😁
It might help if you got to the point...3mins would complete the task. Too many hmmmms and hhhss.
This is one of my early videos I’m a lot better now 👍😊👍
Hi Mel, how did you attach your exhausts together thanks
Caenloch hi i put silencer in the middle using jubilee clips to hold the pipes on 🤓🤙
How's the heater working with the cold air feed I'm going to do the same in my van I'm doing make a lot of sense
Brian Boyle it works perfect I’m really happy with it 🤓🤙
Nice price white diesel around our area is 1.39 per litre
it was the same here in some places :)
does red diesal mess up the car at all ?
You could save even more if you use kerosene heating oil. It’s about 55 p a litre and burns fine in a diesel heater
keith lester Hi I have been told this before but can’t find any 🤙🤓
Up here in Scotland on the west coast we don’t have gas, so everybody has oil central heating. So if you’re on your travels and come to the prettiest part of this island, you’ll be able to find it. Good luck with the rest of your build, I’ve done a Transit Van conversion myself and I like to see how other people’s conversions turn out.
keith lester I love the Scots you guys really know how to party I used to go to T in the park every year and was all ways the best festival of them all don’t know if I would come your way in the winter though I’m a softy southerner lol I tend to follow the sun. Thanks for the tip tough really appreciated 🤓🤙
You’ve got a night heater, no need to worry about the weather. You’ll get a better welcome here than anywhere else you can name. We’ve travelled all over Europe in our van and the Scots seem to get a good welcome everywhere we go. Maybe we’re just great people eh! 😂
keith lester I think you are probably are rite 🤓🤙
Hi Mel, do you know where i can get red diesel in Kent? I tried that same petrol station you went to but they changed ownership and are not doing red diesel anymore, hope you see this and thanks
Cuxton serves 1 Sundridge Hill, Cuxton, Rochester ME2 1LH
@@BigVanSmallWorld thanks for the prompt response Mel, top man, love your vids keep them coming
Is that the petrol station just off the A2 near Gravesend?
Yes it is 👍😊👍
Will red dies damage a car that’s 2014.
Ok Mel so where do i get some cheap red diesel for my Sprinter?? happy new year, and keep up the good work.
David Firth Hi you just have to keep ya eye out for it at petrol stations but don’t use it as road fuel 😐 happy new year 🤓🤙
What's the gen on red diesel overseas, availability and allowed uses?
Good Question unfortunately I really don’t know 🤓👍
@@BigVanSmallWorld I've just checked. It seems the use of red diesel for propulsion is not allowed in the EU neither. There has been something happening wrt it being used in boats but there doesn't seem to be any difference in the use of it for plant (Chinese diesel heaters and triffids included) so as long as you can get it it seems carry on heating...
I just have questions if I use the gas oli . Is there is no problem for my engine?
It’s not to be used as road fuel you must not use it in your engine your car or van will be destroyed my HMRC
@@BigVanSmallWorld I am follow you from iraq and I live in iraq and we have it normal we can use is on the car . But my question was if it's bad for the engine or normal . Thank you 🙂
I reckon hmrc need to check mels hat to make sure it aint a fake insulate
How much diesel does it burn mel ,? How long will 10 litres last for ? I had a polish guy buy a bike of me once ,when he opened the side door on his transit van 100 s of empty cooking oil bottles fell out.he was paying 60 p for a litre of vedgetable oil from tescos, he reckoned he drove 1000 miles on it.
Hi veggie oil won't work in these heaters 10 ltr would last about 24 hours on full power :)
@@BigVanSmallWorld no he ran the transit on it not the heater
peter amberley oh ok 👍 cool 🤓🤙
self evident I suppose but, if you cant find 'red' for your heater you can still use 'white'.
That’s rite 👍🤓👍
Does red diesel come up on MOTS???
Off road diesel is red here in the united states.
Good thinking batman😁
thank you :)
the only thing is in the US Red diesel is 3.85 a gal. white diesel is 2.85 a gal.
Oh my gosh that’s the wrong way round lol how strange funny how things are so different thanks for your input 🤙🤓
Hi does having the diesel in the van smell at all? Good video 🙂👍
Life's Hobbies And Happenings no not at all I’m really careful not to spill any 🤓🤙
Great Vid Mel, thanks for sharing. I'm planning on installing one of these heaters, do they sell red diesel in Europe as I plan on going there. Or can you mix the two if not? Sub'd!
Thank you for your support and encouragement really appreciated yes you can mix it it’s perfectly fine not sure about availability in Europe I would think it’s the same 👍🤓👍
It's available all over Europe, if you have difficulty finding it just go to to a truck stop, trucks run the fridges on it
You can get an exemption certificate for red that has to be filled out before you use red on the road. This saves you from draining the tank when you take a vehicle on a public high way. You still have to pay the duty. This certificate must be filled out and you must carry with you on the Journey. You need a certificate for each journey.
Hi mel I see your other reply to the other viewer but does the vented fuel tank give off the smell of diesel via the vent that you’ve noticed Atb 👍🏼
Stag Man good morning thank you for subscribing really appreciate it.
As far as I can tell the vented lid only vents one way to prevent vacuum building up in the tank. So no no small at all and I’m really careful when fuelling up having a cloth ready just in case. I’m really pleased with this tank I actually just ordered another one for water 🤓🤙
Stag Man ps if you order one ask for the vented cap 👍
great video mel///
thank you :)
Mel, why on earth would you use red diesel when your diesel heater will work perfectly well if not better on kerosene ( heating oil) ?
Its far cheaper and you can get it from the pump at some fuel stations. The vat on red is 20% whereas its only 5% on kero . Not so long ago I payed just over 50p a litre for kero ( heating oil) admittedly that's for a 1000 litres in my home oil tank.
that's interesting thank you :)
Big saving
barkingbadger1 definitely 🤓🤙
Great bids bud.im sure it'll help many.. cheers
thank you :)
By chance did Ireland go green to stop it being shipped into UK and sold on black market. There was a interesting documentary where some Welsh fellow was flogging cheap Irish fuel to his neighbours. Followed for months by customs. Went to court think only fined a few hundred pounds, came out of court with a smile on his face, must of costs thousands to get to prosecute.
I'm not sure but think it may be because of the UK use red :)
Can red diesel work in a diesel car. I know its unlawful to do so but will it harm the car in anyway.
Rab carn you can run any Diesel engine or heater on red diesel but if you use it in your car and get caught your car maybe crushed 😱
The only road vehicle motors that can legally run on the public roads on Red Diesel are Farm and Agricultural vehicles.
@@sambee8982 Special vehicles as well, mobile cranes and concrete pumps run on red.
@@mikehurley5052 Really? Are you sure about that?
@@sambee8982 I drove them back 10 years ago, they can use red because they are classed as special vehicles, no tachograph needed either.
Forgot the link
www.gov.uk/government/publications/excise-notice-75-fuel-for-road-vehicles/excise-notice-75-fuel-for-road-vehicles
"Use" of the fuel isnt restricted to just running the engine so saying its only for a heater wont work. Shower, engine, heater, whatever youre "using" red diesel in your vehicle.
read section 4.2 and 4.3 in that link you posted
Use paraffin in my webasto heater less smelly and cheap.
David Brailsford I’m not sure if it would work in this one I just wanted to explain to people that didn’t know what red diesel was 👍🤙🤓
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Use central heating oil it's cheaper.
Martin Counsell yes but where does one get it ? 🤓🤙
If you already have oil fired central heating you ok, but the min purchase is about 250L it costs about 50p per Litre government always wins, we are Born FREE and taxed til DEATH.
It's easy to put red diesel into a diesel car in Canada. Too easy.
I’m moving to Canada then 😂🤓👍
@@BigVanSmallWorld I know a place that has it set up right next to the diesel pumps.
LOL Xmas video vanished fast enough .. LOL ! 'WHAT !!The drunk family video went world WIDE !! ARRGGHH!! .. WHACK!" Good one. Solar electricty is FREE, oil is not.
copy rite infringement because of the music love solar power :)
Does red diesel clog dpf or do damage etc on a 2018 Volkswagen Diesel engine? Asking for a friend 😂😂
Yes it will destroy it 😂😂😂
@@BigVanSmallWorld it wont it's only a colour dye. We have green in ireland . UK have red
I never have to refuel me heater as unlike yours running on fossil fuels i'm going to run mine on Diesel, Vin Diesel LOL. Ha Ha HA HAR.
good luck with that
Better red than dead
This guy talks too much ! But he’s funny and explains thing really simply.
Next time grab me a subway. Thanks 👍
Stellar Andrews thank you I’m trying to get better as I go 🤓🤙
Mel’s World your doing well!
I do like your videos.
Only talking about you today with mate who’s a professional converter.
He liked the relocation of the heater fuel tank. 👍🏻
Good job Mel. Can you notice the smell inside your van for a while after you've filled your tank?
In the summer when temps are high, the pressure inside the tank may come out through the breather as my motorbike stinks out my shed on hot days although it's petrol. I just open the door for a while though to help sort it out.
Diesel isn't as smelly as petrol. Also way less combustible at normal pressure!
@@Pugwash. I understand that but The smell of diesel is quite sickening to me.
The smell of diesel used to trigger sea sickness when sailing with the engine running for assistance.
Or spilt diesel from filling the tank mid journey as the boat was rocking.
Petrol never ever made me want to vomit.
For this reason I have my heater diesel coming from the main tank although when it comes into the hotter months, if Mel can't smell diesel in his van I may change my mind and fit a tank in the back and use home heating oil as it's even cheaper than red.
You have missed a trick here cocker, why not connect your heater tank to your normal tank and go all red👍👍👍👍 lol
nooo dont do it lol
seth perry WRONG red is 5%
I will my house a few company their. on club on ways to go this yay