E-BIKE CHAINRING UPGRADE! Go Faster on Your Wallke X3 Pro! No more Ghost Pedal!
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Is a chainring upgrade worth doing? I gave it a shot and it really helped the performance of this E-Mountain Bike! It's not for everyone so watch this video to learn more about the pros and cons. It might just take your bike to the next level!
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I put a 60T Chain ring on my X3 Pro about 2 weeks ago after watching your review of it. I does make riding the bike better, but on my last ride (about 15 miles) I threw the chain 3 times. It was always in 8th gear, and after hitting a good bump in the road.
Looking at the angle of the chain between 8th gear and the front sprocket, the chain is at its greatest angle of deflection off being perfectly straight (that's 1st gear). While I have nothing but "logical guessing" to back this up, I am guessing when hitting a bump, the rear derailer bounces also, allowing slack in the chain that makes it way all the way to the front sprocket, which ends up being enough to allow the chain to pop off the teeth. The chain also always ended up to the "outside" of the pedal, which make sense to me as well in support of my theory.
I think the key to this is the chain guard on the front sprocket. In looing at the stock 52 tooth sprocket in relationship to the chain guard, should the same condition exist/happen with the 52 tooth sprocket, the chain guard may provide enough of a "blocking action" to prevent the chain from popping off.
I am going to search for a larger chain guard (looks like around a 10" diameter will work) or look to a local shop to fabricate one for me. If I am correct, this should eliminate that issue...could be a niche market here for someone to look into!
Mine did to at first. I introduced the new ring in my 1000 mile H6 review and mentioned I was having a hard time dialing it in. Then after some miles, micro adjustments to the derailleur and the ring breaking in on the X3, it stays put. And yeah that outer ring would solve the problem without the micro adjustments and break in time. I found a ring for my new bike that’s 58t with the guard built into the ring. It’s really cool. On Monday I’ll hit up my cnc guy and bring the 60t to them. All they’d have to do is copy the ring without the teeth. Good idea man! I did art for their snowmobile racing team so they’ve been wanting to return the favor. Her’s the project. Shoot me an email when you get a chance. Tat2xtrace@gmail. I’ll hook you up with one.
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Quick Follow up...if you look at the stock setup, the front sprocket is mounted to the inside of the crank set, with the chain guard to the outside (make sense). This puts the front sprocket to be in line the best with 1st gear.
I switched these...put the guard to the inside, and sprocket to the outside. I really don't know if the guard is needed, but I put it on anyway.
This now puts the front sprocket more in line with 3rd or 4th gear, greatly reducing the angle of deflection when the bike is in 8th gear, which everyone knows is most of the time. I also noted there is now more clearance between the chain and rear wheel when the bike is in 1st gear. That is a plus as well.
I haven't taken a long ride on it yet in this setup, but my short trip around the neighborhood gave me high hopes. Shifts felt more "definitive" as well, which may be due to balancing the angle over the center of the rear sprocket more now.
If I feel then need to move the sprocket out a bit further, I noted the chain guard will go up against the sprocket directly without interfering with the chain, so it would effectively become an additional spacer.
Yeah tried inside and outside the supports. Common sense said to run it on the inside like the original but for some reason I got better results on the outside. But I don’t ride hills as much as you and shifting rare. The concept of using the cover as a spacer is interesting.
@@TheE-LightenedArtist This is the correct one. Is the description different from the video? Thank you for adding this link.
I've been bitching about this on Wallke bikes for over a year. The top gear is too low to handle 20 mph or so without moving your legs as fast as Usain Bolt! It sucks! Thanks for pointing this out, I was hoping that there was a fix for this!
yeah. I went even further on my H6. Did the rear too and removed the shifter.
I test rode one of them in Quartsite AZ. That's nice to know. My first Ebike that didn't help the speed, must have had a govener.
Follow up on my 60T sprocket experience on my X3 Pro...I moved the chain sprocket to the outside of the crankset and used the orignal chain guard as a spacer to push it out the max distance I could with the parts I had. I've since put about 40 miles on the bike, and so far, so good...zero chain pops. I am hoping that remains the trend! I really like the way the 60T "works" vs. the 52T, so I am very glad this worked!
Yeah man it’s all just a matter of experimenting. Plus the ring wears a little and settles in
Excellent video. I have the Aniioke A7 Pro which was sold by Wallke when I bought it, and looks very similar to X3 Pro. My bike starts to ghost pedal at about 19 mph, but goes about 33 mph with the motor alone. Super annoying. I'm definitely going to try this out.
Love your video, just ordered the bike and the chain ring too. Other question, what's the tire pressure are you running? I believe the manf recommend 25-28 PSI, just wanted to see what others are doing.
I'm running Tannus Armour so I'm in the 17-20 psi range. Remember that new 4" tubes have a break in period so they go squishy fast at first. So you'll want to check pressure every ride for the first few rides.
NICE
Cheers!
Been loving your vids on the x3 pro, there isn't a ton of info on them other than the earlier 2021 models which are a bit outdated. This mod makes a ton of sense, cheap too!
Cheers Man! Thing is Sik! Love it!
Problem with these chainrings without the cover is if you hit a bump hard enough the d-railer will bounce forward and knock your chain off. So ya gotta play with adjustments till it settles in. I just got a 58t with a built-in guard for my new bike. pretty cool.
nice
Cheers!
Could you recommend a model for the X3 Pro 2024? The current model's size is different and doesn't fit.
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@@TheE-LightenedArtist Thank you, 53T? right
Can you do this same mod for h6?
Absolutely. Pretty much the same setup.
Would that work on my troxus vulcanus?
Yes but it looks like the troxus has a fixed chainring. So you’d have to swap the crank arms. Same as the new Wallke bikes. I’ll give you a link. I’m actually working on a video now going over that.
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I looked a little closer at the crank. Looks like you can actually change the chainring. But it’s a 4 bolt pattern so might be hard to find a descent chainring. So yeah maybe the above crank arm set with chainring is the way to go. Just be sure to get a crank arm puller. They’re cheap.
Nice mod, didn’t know it was that easy, thought it would have required a new crank etc.
You lost the ability to use the front chain guard now?
Yeah the guard would be to small. Could buy a bigger one and stick it on there. I found another chainring for my new H6 ST that has the guard cnc’d with the ring. It’s nice. All one piece. Editing that video now.
I could only find the types with chainguard attached, at least for 60 sprocket ones. Not sure what my standard size is on the Wallke F2….
Will do the mod as soon as I find a reasonably priced Combi chaninguard/sprocket.
if anyone has a hint please let me know.
Just checked, the F2 has a 40t front sprocket, it is not fixed with rivet type screws but with a teethed ring on crank.
Good thing I did nit make a rash decision and order :-)
I just looked at the F2 online. Yeah totally different animal. I’d be willing to bet it has a freewheel instead of a cassette in back too. So depending on the motor connector, you might be able to to upgrade that freewheel a little easier than messing with the chainring.
@@TheE-LightenedArtiston the back I have a 7 gear shimano thingie……don’t know how to distuinguish freewheel or cassette type…
Is it possible to do this for the H9 AWD?
Unfortunately the newer Wallke bikes are coming with fixed chainrings. So you’d have to replace the whole crank. I like the one piece because of the dual chain guard though. So you’d need to switch out the freewheel. I’m working on a video for that.
Hey bro will you recommend h6 St over any other planning on my 1st e bike
I’m expecting mine to arrive tomorrow. Wallke told me that the ones that will be shipping on the 17th will have upgrades. They’re going to have 4 piston brakes and larger 200mm calipers! That sand color with the black everything else is sexy! I’ll have to put it to the test before recommending it but…yeah. I’m super happy with my other two Wallke bikes. My subscribers really seem to love theirs too. The range and build quality is great. I can’t imagine getting more bang for your buck. I’m considering doing a live unboxing. Never gone live before but might give it a shot this weekend. Cheers!
@@TheE-LightenedArtist that's great and nice to know that they are doing upgrades so should I wait to buy till the 17th or they will be shipping the upgrade ones thanks
@@TheE-LightenedArtist hey thanks for the reply and should I wait till the 17th for the upgraded one or buy now and they will ship them anyway
Yeah they can be preordered. Shot you my number via email.
Nice video dude! I'm planning on doing this to my H9 AWD that's still shipping lol
Sweet. They have a fixed chain ring on the new bikes so you have to swap the crank arms. Easy tho. And the new bikes have a free wheel instead of a cassette. Also easy to upgrade.
I and my twin sister keep staring at our foldable mobot leader ebike and eco drive..... thinking how you guys know the sizes of the chainring and which chainring can make our ebike speed faster abit???we shall go learn some knowledge of it.......