Xiangqi Opening Principles - and why they differ from chess

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  • Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
  • Joep Nabuurs covers some xiangqi opening principles that he noticed as a chess player, and analyses a game played by one of the greatest.
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    0:00 Introduction
    1:15 Early queen development in chess; the bad
    2:28 My first games
    4:12 Why the difference in principles
    6:24 Example game: Hu Ronghua VS Li Laiqun
    30:29 Early queen development in chess; the good
    32:22 Epilogue
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Комментарии • 49

  • @ivanozuccolotto1
    @ivanozuccolotto1 2 года назад +22

    Great video. I hope you will publish many other commented matches. As beginners, we need tips on strategy. Thanks

  • @Harnas31
    @Harnas31 Год назад +13

    Xiangqi is more aggressive than chess. So many counter-attacks, pins and skewers, and traps. Everything. It looks like much more combination than in chess. In chess position can be more static, all defended by pawns, here one needs to look way ahead to see all counter-attack combinations.

  • @flyduster80
    @flyduster80 Год назад +7

    I am loving this analysis of grandmasters! You need to do WAY more of these games! It teaches me so much about strategy.

  • @bozmar1
    @bozmar1 Год назад +10

    Xiang qi is extremly tactical form of chess
    compared to western chess that is
    more strategic … in xiangqi needs more imagination and creativity than learning the different strategies … shogi is the best all in my opinion

  • @RJWolfeStunts
    @RJWolfeStunts 2 года назад +11

    Thank you for making this content. It's highly appreciated!

  • @drWakt
    @drWakt 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the video! I learned a lot today.

  • @Magnulus76
    @Magnulus76 11 месяцев назад +4

    Another thing I notice, playing a few games of xianqi, is how the pawns make the game completely different. Philidor said pawns are the soul of chess, but they just aren't as powerful in Xianqi, at least in the opening.

    • @XiangqiChineseChess
      @XiangqiChineseChess  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes! This makes lots of difference

    • @shrandesign
      @shrandesign 3 месяца назад

      Pawns in Western Chess can protect each other, which makes a chain structure throughout the entire board and it also is an easy way to synergize pieces together. The good thing about this is that a large part of the game is dedicated to creating walls and fortresses with this setup. And it's also a bad thing since the game most often becomes very passive and ends up in a lot of draws.
      In Xiangqi, the pawns move up and are all dynamic attacking pieces. It is also necessary for unblocking paths. It is such a powerful piece in the endgame that it does not need to promote. Because there is no piece that moves diagonally like bishops, you can see how solid pawns are in many positions, when a pawn gets near a piece the piece usually has to jump away instead of taking back (with the only exception being the chariot)

  • @ArtofSpeculation
    @ArtofSpeculation Год назад +1

    This is my favorite XiangQi review to-date. Wonderful!

  • @vwazp
    @vwazp 2 года назад +2

    Keep making these, they are great!

  • @kroeterichNo1
    @kroeterichNo1 2 года назад +3

    Great video!

  • @lennyuniverse
    @lennyuniverse 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this video! Great overview of the game strategy and why it's different from international chess.

  • @user-lj4ir4re7y
    @user-lj4ir4re7y 7 месяцев назад +1

    It is important to point out at 24:42 that the move is "cannon pinning five pieces" since after red cannon taking the black pawn, the black elephant, the horse, the king and two advisors can not move anymore.

  • @LuMe58
    @LuMe58 3 месяца назад

    Thanks, good explication.

  • @capt.JohnSilver
    @capt.JohnSilver Год назад +1

    Thank you for your video. It is very informative.👍

  • @flaviorogledi1937
    @flaviorogledi1937 Год назад +1

    This Channel Is pure Gold thank you

  • @_MonarchYT_
    @_MonarchYT_ 2 года назад +3

    I subscribed since you only had 999 subcribers :)

  • @StopFear
    @StopFear Год назад +4

    I think one of the biggest obstacles to many people interested in xiangqi is that there is no universal consistent notation like the algebraic notation with international chess. This is also a problem with Go/Baduk. Often many manuals have diagrams but among the Chinese, Korean, and Japanese training literature there is no consistent use of notation. Neither is there an established set of international terminology.

    • @XiangqiChineseChess
      @XiangqiChineseChess  Год назад +5

      Actually Xiangqi does have universal consistent notation, will publish a video for it later!

    • @Magnulus76
      @Magnulus76 11 месяцев назад +1

      The average slower pieces in xianqi don't lend themselves to the same kind of tactical depth. Chess pieces are far more abstract and dynamic in their movement.
      I think xianqi is a bit more like checkers in this respect. Tactics are still important but in chess, there is alot more tactical tension and dynamism on the board at any given time, because every pieces is only a turn or two away from being captured by most of the pieces on the board. In xianqi, the only pieces that can easily do this are the chariot and cannon.

  • @Magnulus76
    @Magnulus76 11 месяцев назад +1

    The cannons, the slower pawns, the ministers only moving two spaces all make the openings different from regular chess.

    • @XiangqiChineseChess
      @XiangqiChineseChess  11 месяцев назад

      Edited: True, all those make for a different game from chess. We may tackle those subtleties and others in a later video.
      The main principle of using your strongest pieces early may sound odd to chess players, which is why Joep covered that specific one here.

  • @StopFear
    @StopFear Год назад

    Can somebody please recommend a good engine and a GUI for beginner learner or Xiangqi?

  • @gingeral253
    @gingeral253 Год назад +2

    Thanks for the reviews. They help beginners build a basis. Also is there a Chinese chess engine?

    • @XiangqiChineseChess
      @XiangqiChineseChess  Год назад +1

      You can play against engine or use it to analyze your games on play.xiangqi.com/lobby

  • @eprjct
    @eprjct Год назад +9

    I remember the first time I played chess and felt the exact reverse. I tried to move out all the pieces and everyone is trapped.

    • @spasegeek9214
      @spasegeek9214 Год назад +1

      No one is "trapped" in western chess. In western chess they are placed in positions that they don't know how to move out of. That isn't rhe same thing.

    • @Rene.A.D
      @Rene.A.D 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@spasegeek9214why so pedantic? that's exactly what he meant by trapped

  • @tonyhuang431
    @tonyhuang431 Год назад +1

    This is awesome! where did you find the chess match?

  • @gingeral253
    @gingeral253 Год назад +1

    What was the explanation why you can’t take the central pawn as red in the same side cannon again?

    • @ItsTheWhale
      @ItsTheWhale 11 месяцев назад

      Wasting moves. Black will be able to develop more pieces, and in Xiangqi, positioning is just as important as material.

  • @stefankalhorn7456
    @stefankalhorn7456 2 года назад +3

    Always a bad sign if your horse is pinned at palaces center.

  • @swagdog100
    @swagdog100 Год назад +1

    More

  • @gingeral253
    @gingeral253 Год назад +4

    You aren’t allowed to perpetual check in Chinese chess?

  • @neuro2ber
    @neuro2ber Год назад

    wrong ! soldier cannot move horizontically to protect each other if they have not pass the other side of the river ! (cf 6.00 minutes in the video)

    • @andyplaysgundam
      @andyplaysgundam 11 месяцев назад +3

      He was talking about Korean chess, which uses basically the same pieces and board