So I've heard ha ha! I didn't know that when I recorded this video. The 2 1/2 lbs of pan tension is perfect for what I trap and that trap is great! That adjustment is simple enough that I wouldn't even call that a 'modification'. Just a well made American trap that will last a long time. I'll be answering for my mistake for years I bet ha ha :) Thanks for commenting Herbert!
I also like that you explained tarps being fired off and nothing in it. After trapping coyotes for several yrs. I discovered most traps are set off with no catch itis by deer
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All of them are performance traps that are really 'top-of-the-line' in my opinion. My daddy thinks that the only trap worth buying is a duke. I may surprise him this year with a doz quality traps though. Traps have come a long way!
your opening comment is spot on! People ask me a lot of times how to catch raccoons. I tell them all the same thing, make sets for coyotes and you can't keep raccoons out of them
Just to help with the pan tension question. The MB is adjustable. to adjust the tension you bend the dog one way or the other. Bend it up for tighter tension and down for less pan tension.
Got a good whiff of a skunk when I was about 14, when our dog was killing one: A big lungful of fresh, concentrated scent -- five good episodes of screaming dry heaves the neighbors 3 famrs down probably heard (I was laughing in-between, but there was no stopping that wretching). That's powerful stuff.
Thank you for making this video, but I use the Bridgers dogless and I would not recommend filing any part of them, as they actually have a night latch click setting as well. From that point you can reset your pan at what ever height you need. Also they come with a bolt so you can adjust how many pounds pressure tension you want the pan set to.
I watched your striper fishing video. Nice job! As far as the filing, the ONLY reason I would recommend it is to reduce travel. I would NOT recommend reworking the night latch though. It's a common method with them and it works like a charm. Effectively making it activate as soon as enough weight is put on the pan. You don't have to of course. They are great right out of the box. I do like that you can adjust the pan tension as well. I looked for some trapping content on your channel. Are you trapping at all?
Yes you bring up a good point. I just found with adjusting the bolt they are working well. I have on my instagram and facebook pages some pictures, but I quit my job to film hunting fishing and trapping for at least a year. I have been filming every day and have lots of content to make a DVD for Trappers by trappers, of the North East. Next season I will be also targeting the Adirondacks Mountains as well as the Catskill Mountains where I am currently filming, but no I have not released any trapping footage on my channel just yet. I Love how you had all the different varieties of traps out to discuss them. My buddy swears by the MB traps and I think they are good, but rather have my Bridgers lol. Thanks again for the great video.
That sounds awesome! Traveling and trapping. What a dream come true. Good for you! I have love for all traps for one reason or another but I keep coming back to the MB's because they are US made. Not the only trap made here at home but I do keep coming back to them. I may do a series on traps next year. People really seem to enjoy that content. Thanks for doing what your doing Papa!
Thank you very much I appreciate that, Also I totally stand with you there USA made nothing better and nothing should come before it, also I really Like MB as a company I have never had an issue with anything from them. Ill keep an eye out for your content. Thanks again. Hope your traps are filled with fur
You are right. I learned that just after filming this lol. Folks in the comments below have been kind enough to let me know a few time too. You're not the first. My mistake. I'm still learning as well. Thanks Josiah. Are you using the MB's?
FIRST THE ENDING IS FUNNY AND AWESOME.YES THAT WAS DEER HAIR.I HAVE DUKE # 2 TRAPS ,BUT BOUGHT A BRIDGER DOG LESS THIS YEAR AND LOVE IT.THE LEVERS ON DUKES ARE LONGER BUT LOVE THE BRIDGER ITS SO MUCH EASIER AND SAFER THAN DUKES.IM SWITCHING A FEW TRAPS AT A TIME.THE BRIDGER WAS EASIER TO BED THAN DUKES TOO.
Thanks and I agree with everything you said. No modifications are necessary. Just a great all around trap that can be used on different types of critters.
I trapped with the original Montgomery #s 3 and 4 dogless traps years ago and the were wonderful! Briger's pan set-up id different on their dogless traps but, they look EXACTLY like the old Montgomery's other than the pan. As far as modifications, those chains are WAY to short for Wyoming Coyotes and Cats! Even in the cold, rocky ground with a 4 foot stake I've had Coyotes pump the stakes out of the ground and leave costing me trap, fur and money! You may never have that problem but, I will NEVER again set a trap for Coyote or Bobcat without adding another swivel or two and AT LEAST 3 more feet of chain. Four feet is even better! I once caught a Red Wolf on a four foot chain and he had pumped the stake out of the ground a foot when I got there. He was 7 feet from the tip of his nose to the tip of his tail so, he was a big fella! Good trapping. I enjoy your vids!
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I'm a huge Bridger fan but am going to go and buy a 1.5 dozen MB 650's for next season...I have so many Wolves around here they tear the heck out of my traps when I catch them...I would highly recommend you do a few mods to your traps depending on what they are at times...I change my Springs on my Dukes and Bridgers every few years on the one's that need it...I try to nite latch also all my traps...The MBs dont need it like you said...Nice video again...You want to text and share trapping and outdoor pics PM me your number brother...There are alot of us that do that on here....Alot of us talk on the phone also...Crazy like you said in the last video I watched...You make friends in places you never thought you would around the world...Take care, Gonzo...
Gonzo, you are in good company when you trap with a Bridger trap! I love them. I'm sure the MB's will exceed your expectations and I can't wait to see a wolf in one of them. If my springs get worn out I will change the springs but I don't weld (that's what I would consider a 'modification'). I believe that even a new trapper could change springs so I'd be ok with it too. The internet has made the world so small and there is both good and bad that goes along with that. Making new friends in places I've never been is a big POSITIVE! Any idea what happened in this video; what animals did I miss with them? I've been re-watching them and what I think happened keeps changing. Thanks Gonzo!
I run Bridger #3's fully modified dog on....once I started using them never switched. Got a few mb's but they hang in the shed. I prefer being able to adjust the pan tension with a screw driver and pliers. Duke in not an American trap either. Bridger is just better built. IMHO
That's kind, thank you! My daddy believes that any money spent on a trap other than a duke is money WASTED. BUT, when I showed him the Bridger DOGLESS he just about did a cartwheel ha ha! He liked it so much I decided to just leave it with him. I may have converted a 30+ year veteran of Duke brand traps! You don't know my 'ol man but that falls just short of a biblical miracle! These are some great traps and you can't go wrong with either. Keep digging for info but I can promise, after 30+ years we will both still be learning. Stop back often brother!
Forgot to comment on not being able to adjust the MB's. In their catalog they tell you how to adjust pan tension on the MB's. Not sure, but their website may as well.
I live in minnesota. I use Bridger #2 dogless awsum trap I have caught 3 wolves with them last season one was caught by toe. my traps are short chained with a spring making short chain even shorter and wolves or coyotes can't get out the spring keeps them from getting a gud tug. 15 inch Berkshire stake holds em tight
Great video have thought about the Bridger 2 dogless but still love my 550's. Pan tension is adjustable on mb's by bending the dog. 450's seem great out of box but 550's maybe touch too stiff for me.
+Pennsyltucky Trapper take 2 pliers and bend dog itself down its really strong metal but it doesn't take much of bend. If you would go on Minnesota trap line web sight it shows how to bend them and it's also in there catalog Also when u bend them it don't change the pan height unless you bend them too much
I've heard that from Eric Bortz in the comments recently. I didn't know that. I'm surprised because the design is SO different! Either way we go, we have a great trap.
As others have stated you did a great job staying on topic. I use Bridgers and MBs and am looking at the dogless option for the bridgers which you covered in detail...so thanks. Here is a question for you. You said you didn't like the rubber jawed MB550s...could you explain why?
Thanks Run. I don't believe I said anything about padded jaws in the video but that is a good point. I spoke about having an offset jaw and that it may reduce paw damage but I'm not so sure about that anymore. An offset jaw allows the trap to close a little further, which allows the lever to close further, which makes for a more secure hold on your catch. If you've ever found your trap discharged with a spring popped out you understand why an offset fills a need (not to mention a little bead weld or bend at the end of the jaws). Nothing takes the place of a quality trap though. In short, offsetting your jaws is NOT the solution to paw damage. Padded jaws are designed to fill that need. For me, I am not worried about paw damage. But, if you are concerned with paw damage a padded jaw is a good thing to consider. I would suggest to first try an offset jaw with a modified spring of lower tension. I may even test a trap after removing one of the two springs. I STRESS testing a single spring trap before taking it into the field though! Filing down the edges of the jaw where it will contact the paw will reduce damage as well. If you get padded jaws make sure the pads are secure each time you make a set as they can wear out. At this point you may be stepping into the 'trap modification' zone. So, I apologize if I gave the impression that I oppose padded jaws. I do not. They are just another option for us to consider. I hope you figure it out.
Thanks for the reply. My mistake on the padded jaw comment that was another video I saw from another channel. I actually strictly use offsets on my Bridger 2s and 3s in addition to my MB450s and 550s. I have rubber padded all my Bridgers for two reasons. First my targets are strictly coyotes. I have adjusted my pan tension but on occasions I have caught non-targets. I have noticed paw damage and lower leg damage due to the edges of the Bridgers. The MB550..no issues on that end. When I put the rubber pad kits on the Bridgers it was night and day as far as the paw damage. It was reduced significantly. Second reason is when property owners are hesitant about trapping I show them padded traps and It lessons their concerns and I get a green light compared to when I would show them MB550 for example. Public perception outside the trapping circle is a real challenge. Thanks again for the video..happy trapping.
Hey Ron, I could talk trapping all day. I'm happy to. I love it. Besides, I'm glad you brought this up, it's a good point. It may be that the MB550's have a larger area where the jaw contacts the leg. Laminating the jaws of your Bridgers should give you a similar result. Padding still sounds like the be best option though. As you said, it's night and day. Padded jaws meet that need. If I may, as far as showing the property owners the padded jaws... I've been tossing around the idea of doing a video on talking to land owners for permission and I will make sure to include a part about showing them your equipment. I've found that showing them your equipment actually does damage. I'd encourage you to keep your gear tucked away. I used to show my gear, but I don't any more and there is a reason for that. Average Joe has a negative emotional reaction to traps. I've made a living out of reading body language and if you pay attention to the owner as you show them the trap there are red flags everywhere. Negative emotional responses end relationships FAST. If you are getting push back of any kind (hesitation as you said) showing them the steel isn't what I would suggest. I'll cover that more in the video I do. Thank you for getting me thinking about that. I think it's an important topic that could help a lot of folks out. The single best argument for padded traps IMO, is with regard to INCIDENTAL CATCHES (as in 'the family pet'). If you catch their dog and damage the leg it gets ugly fast. Even if they were at fault. I guess the answer is padded, laminated, offset, single spring traps that are sprinkled with pixie dust! Just kidding. There really is NO perfect solution. You can be dead right and get kicked out just as if you were dead wrong. You can avoid all of that if you do this SINGLE most important thing... I'll talk about that more in the video :)
Pennsyltucky Trapper From my experience I show land owners my equipment "if" they are uninformed and unsure about trapping. I hunt and trap coyotes and by far trapping is more more effective at reducing the numbers. When I show them a trap..and actually pop the trap itself with my own hand in it and they see my fingers are not broken..bruised....etc...it debunks a lot of things they have heard. Every single time I have done this I have owners thanking me for showing them this. Next thing I know I have permission.
MB owns bridger. MB made in USA bridger is made in foreign country I think Taiwan. I may be wrong. And you can adjust the pan tension on MB, it's on MB website.
You are right. I only learned about adjusting the MB's after the recording. They adjust GREAT too. I haven't caught a skunk, cat, or opossum even 1 time this year and I believe it is because I have the pan adjusted correctly on my MB's. I'm not opposed to buying foreign products but I do look for American made first. I just think it's worth asking for USA made before going with something else. Thanks so much for helping to make that clear for everyone.
Hi thanks for the videos. Hey are these traps set live for your video, looks like it. I'm new to this and I hope someone can make a full vid on trap safety for particular types of traps, it looks like lots of trappers tease you with showing off how they can handle the set traps and bed them it, makes me cringe ! Damn burned my finger today making stakes. Been preparing 6 traps do my first set tomorrow
I'm WAY behind on replying my friend. I hope you put up some fur since then. I started a new channel if you want to stay with me. Randall Rydes is my active channel ruclips.net/video/OhC8z4bsk3Q/видео.html
Hey so I actually love your video you had a lot of the same feelings about a lot of your traps as me but I had to disagree on one very important point I'm a Trapper and I love catching cats around my area we have an extreme feral cat problem we find Our Garbage strung out of our trash cans 60 yards across our turf
That's a legitimate pest animal that should be removed. I should have said something to that extent. I should do another video like this one just to 'update' some additional details like this. Thanks Chris.
They are ready to go just as they come. You should soak them in boiling water so the oil comes off of them. That way they don't have an oily odor. After that you're in business. Bridger makes a first class trap. You could add a swivel and a shock spring, night latch it, or laminate the jaws but I recommend that you GO TRAPPING!!! Ha ha, good luck young man.
Yes. I believe it is important to protect the metal (dye them) and to keep them as scent free as possible (wax them). The wax makes them fire smoother as well as water proofs them to some degree. The dye usually makes them darker in color as well (black in my case) which makes them easier to hide when in the water or under a thin layer of dirt. Any advantage helps. Check back because I will be dipping my traps next week and I'll put together a video on how I do it. It's simple, I'm sure you'll be able to do it right on your first try.
Your very welcome. I had fun making this one. I picked up a arm load of MB's and this fall we are going to plant them and see what grows. Thanks for stopping in.
the best reason for a dogless as opposed to a dog is it will fire when a dog is frozen. I run Bridger #3 Dogless and MB 550s. Pan tension ..lol I have caught lots of squirrel and rabbits. So pan tension is a joke. When a squirrel or rabbit jumps on the pan it will fire. It doesn't matter the weight, it is the pressure from then jump which sets it off. Plus how much tension you talking. remember the cat weights about 10 lbs.
if I get any this yr I will get footage n post. just got ought the stone age this winter n got a phone computer device deal that everyone has got. my daughter guna help me figure it out lol.
Just gave you a shout out in my latest vid. Hopefully I can send a few subs your way! I'm trying out the Bridger dogless #2s this season along with my MB 550s. I've been really digging your channel, great vids! All the best my friend!
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Google translated this for me (I have NO IDEA if it's close...?) Google translates it as: I do not have to do it in Thailand, or someone to sell it, do not want to do if you do not have a tool. If you can't personally go out there and chase critters then just stop by my youtube channel and some of my friends channels. Thailand looks like a beautiful country. What kind of outdoor activities are legal?
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if ya send me an email address again I'll send you a picture of one I got that was disposed of I think I figured out how to email a pic. he was big white one with black tips. truly a beauty
I'd love to see that. You can send me a message at anytime using my youtube channel. Go to the 'about' link above and click on 'send message'. Thanks Shawn.
@@PennsyltuckyTrapper wow well here's my take. If they wanted me they could have me no problem I'm hunting alone or scouting and in the middle of nowhere. But there's plenty of food...elk deer available. One strange thing is the unit I hunt in Colorado has a low success rate and overall not tons of elk. This year it went from over the counter to a draw unit. They are blaming low numbers and high hunter pressure. All while they introduce the wolf back into Colorado.
MB550 pan tension is adjusted by bending the dog at different angles in a vise so they are adjustable but most come at 2.5#'s
So I've heard ha ha! I didn't know that when I recorded this video. The 2 1/2 lbs of pan tension is perfect for what I trap and that trap is great! That adjustment is simple enough that I wouldn't even call that a 'modification'. Just a well made American trap that will last a long time. I'll be answering for my mistake for years I bet ha ha :) Thanks for commenting Herbert!
I also like that you explained tarps being fired off and nothing in it. After trapping coyotes for several yrs. I discovered most traps are set off with no catch itis by deer
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great non-biased comparisons on these traps! Subbed! Fellow PA guy myself
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Good presentation. I'm a tinkerer, and like the dogged traps. Have not been as happy with dog less traps, but that's just me.
All of them are performance traps that are really 'top-of-the-line' in my opinion. My daddy thinks that the only trap worth buying is a duke. I may surprise him this year with a doz quality traps though. Traps have come a long way!
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I have some MB 550s and some fully modified Bridger #2 dog less. Both are great traps.
Both are great traps. I agree. The best trap is the one you have but if we are being picky you can't go wrong with either. Thanks Shadow.
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your opening comment is spot on! People ask me a lot of times how to catch raccoons. I tell them all the same thing, make sets for coyotes and you can't keep raccoons out of them
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Just to help with the pan tension question. The MB is adjustable. to adjust the tension you bend the dog one way or the other. Bend it up for tighter tension and down for less pan tension.
Yes you are right. I only learned that AFTER making this video. Thanks for putting that in the comments here. That helps.
Pennsyltucky Trapper not a problem it wasn't until after I posted the comment I seen you mentioned it in a reply
It's worth repeating.
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Nice video. I too like to set my traps, not play with them. You do a good job staying on topic. Keep them coming.Good luck from a fellow PA trapper.
You nailed it. I prefer to do my playing in the field NOT the at the work bench. If you ever have the time, come ride the line with me.
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Nice review! I'm a big fan of the Bridger #2 Dogless! I like the MB 550's as well, but they are currently not in the budget! LOL! Take care!
Thanks again Todd. I'm a fan of them all. You really can't make a bad choice. Budget wisely my friend ha ha!
Got a good whiff of a skunk when I was about 14, when our dog was killing one: A big lungful of fresh, concentrated scent -- five good episodes of screaming dry heaves the neighbors 3 famrs down probably heard (I was laughing in-between, but there was no stopping that wretching). That's powerful stuff.
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mb550 is my go to trap. love it
Love that trap!
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Thank you for making this video, but I use the Bridgers dogless and I would not recommend filing any part of them, as they actually have a night latch click setting as well. From that point you can reset your pan at what ever height you need. Also they come with a bolt so you can adjust how many pounds pressure tension you want the pan set to.
I watched your striper fishing video. Nice job! As far as the filing, the ONLY reason I would recommend it is to reduce travel. I would NOT recommend reworking the night latch though. It's a common method with them and it works like a charm. Effectively making it activate as soon as enough weight is put on the pan. You don't have to of course. They are great right out of the box. I do like that you can adjust the pan tension as well. I looked for some trapping content on your channel. Are you trapping at all?
Yes you bring up a good point. I just found with adjusting the bolt they are working well. I have on my instagram and facebook pages some pictures, but I quit my job to film hunting fishing and trapping for at least a year. I have been filming every day and have lots of content to make a DVD for Trappers by trappers, of the North East. Next season I will be also targeting the Adirondacks Mountains as well as the Catskill Mountains where I am currently filming, but no I have not released any trapping footage on my channel just yet. I Love how you had all the different varieties of traps out to discuss them. My buddy swears by the MB traps and I think they are good, but rather have my Bridgers lol. Thanks again for the great video.
That sounds awesome! Traveling and trapping. What a dream come true. Good for you! I have love for all traps for one reason or another but I keep coming back to the MB's because they are US made. Not the only trap made here at home but I do keep coming back to them. I may do a series on traps next year. People really seem to enjoy that content. Thanks for doing what your doing Papa!
Thank you very much I appreciate that, Also I totally stand with you there USA made nothing better and nothing should come before it, also I really Like MB as a company I have never had an issue with anything from them. Ill keep an eye out for your content. Thanks again. Hope your traps are filled with fur
You can adjust the pan tench in on the mb 550 by bending the dog a little bit
You are right. I learned that just after filming this lol. Folks in the comments below have been kind enough to let me know a few time too. You're not the first. My mistake. I'm still learning as well. Thanks Josiah. Are you using the MB's?
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I use Bridger Dogless (but I use #3's) and 550s and I catch as many coyotes in the Bridgers (no pan tension at all) as I do in my 550's
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FIRST THE ENDING IS FUNNY AND AWESOME.YES THAT WAS DEER HAIR.I HAVE DUKE # 2 TRAPS ,BUT BOUGHT A BRIDGER DOG LESS THIS YEAR AND LOVE IT.THE LEVERS ON DUKES ARE LONGER BUT LOVE THE BRIDGER ITS SO MUCH EASIER AND SAFER THAN DUKES.IM SWITCHING A FEW TRAPS AT A TIME.THE BRIDGER WAS EASIER TO BED THAN DUKES TOO.
Thanks and I agree with everything you said. No modifications are necessary. Just a great all around trap that can be used on different types of critters.
YOUR WELCOME.YES THEY ARE.IVE ALSO FOUND A NEW PROBLEM,WHEN YOU HAVE DOGS THEY BEND THEM IN HALF EVERY TIME.SO DOG LESS IS BEST TO ME.
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I agree with ya on modifacation all I do is night latching and add an extra swivel.
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Simple and effective. That's the goal. Stay with me Lucas. Follow the link to my new channel if you'd like.
I trapped with the original Montgomery #s 3 and 4 dogless traps years ago and the were wonderful! Briger's pan set-up id different on their dogless traps but, they look EXACTLY like the old Montgomery's other than the pan.
As far as modifications, those chains are WAY to short for Wyoming Coyotes and Cats! Even in the cold, rocky ground with a 4 foot stake I've had Coyotes pump the stakes out of the ground and leave costing me trap, fur and money! You may never have that problem but, I will NEVER again set a trap for Coyote or Bobcat without adding another swivel or two and AT LEAST 3 more feet of chain. Four feet is even better!
I once caught a Red Wolf on a four foot chain and he had pumped the stake out of the ground a foot when I got there. He was 7 feet from the tip of his nose to the tip of his tail so, he was a big fella!
Good trapping. I enjoy your vids!
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I'm a huge Bridger fan but am going to go and buy a 1.5 dozen MB 650's for next season...I have so many Wolves around here they tear the heck out of my traps when I catch them...I would highly recommend you do a few mods to your traps depending on what they are at times...I change my Springs on my Dukes and Bridgers every few years on the one's that need it...I try to nite latch also all my traps...The MBs dont need it like you said...Nice video again...You want to text and share trapping and outdoor pics PM me your number brother...There are alot of us that do that on here....Alot of us talk on the phone also...Crazy like you said in the last video I watched...You make friends in places you never thought you would around the world...Take care, Gonzo...
Gonzo, you are in good company when you trap with a Bridger trap! I love them. I'm sure the MB's will exceed your expectations and I can't wait to see a wolf in one of them. If my springs get worn out I will change the springs but I don't weld (that's what I would consider a 'modification'). I believe that even a new trapper could change springs so I'd be ok with it too. The internet has made the world so small and there is both good and bad that goes along with that. Making new friends in places I've never been is a big POSITIVE! Any idea what happened in this video; what animals did I miss with them? I've been re-watching them and what I think happened keeps changing. Thanks Gonzo!
Heith Gagnon 650's Rock. Way nicer than the bridger 3's. How'd they do for ya?
@@PennsyltuckyTrapper Question is there a difference in springc diameter between the Bridger and mb 550?
I run Bridger #3's fully modified dog on....once I started using them never switched. Got a few mb's but they hang in the shed. I prefer being able to adjust the pan tension with a screw driver and pliers. Duke in not an American trap either. Bridger is just better built. IMHO
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I love Bridgers. I'm MB all the way though. Follow my link and stay with me. I could use trappers support when I post the trapping vids. Thanks man.
Videos like this and I just may learn how to do this sooner or later. Thanks.
That's kind, thank you! My daddy believes that any money spent on a trap other than a duke is money WASTED. BUT, when I showed him the Bridger DOGLESS he just about did a cartwheel ha ha! He liked it so much I decided to just leave it with him. I may have converted a 30+ year veteran of Duke brand traps! You don't know my 'ol man but that falls just short of a biblical miracle! These are some great traps and you can't go wrong with either. Keep digging for info but I can promise, after 30+ years we will both still be learning. Stop back often brother!
Right on. I keep telling myself I'm just tryen to finish off the last few yotes that are on our place, but I just may be telling myself a lie.
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Forgot to comment on not being able to adjust the MB's. In their catalog they tell you how to adjust pan tension on the MB's. Not sure, but their website may as well.
Yes, you are right. By adjusting the dog on the MB's you can adjust the pan tension. I only learned that AFTER this recording. Thank you :)
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I live in minnesota. I use Bridger #2 dogless awsum trap I have caught 3 wolves with them last season one was caught by toe. my traps are short chained with a spring making short chain even shorter and wolves or coyotes can't get out the spring keeps them from getting a gud tug. 15 inch Berkshire stake holds em tight
Wow! That's a big k9 with a #2?! I'd love to see some video of that kind of catch.
Great video have thought about the Bridger 2 dogless but still love my 550's. Pan tension is adjustable on mb's by bending the dog. 450's seem great out of box but 550's maybe touch too stiff for me.
Thanks Lee. Really?! Explain how you adjust the pan tension on the 550's? The 550's are a new trap to me.
+Pennsyltucky Trapper take 2 pliers and bend dog itself down its really strong metal but it doesn't take much of bend. If you would go on Minnesota trap line web sight it shows how to bend them and it's also in there catalog Also when u bend them it don't change the pan height unless you bend them too much
Great tip brother! Thank you. I'll make sure to say something about that in my upcoming videos.
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Love the flags! Great video man.
I love the flag too Vasahr :)
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Mbs rule shorter levers helps with freezing,, I normally grind my long levers down,, less for a coyote to chew on also,, just my opinion,, nice video
Thank you Tom. I'm a big fan of the MB's. I even caught two beaver this year with some. A little small but they got the job done.
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Nice vid, thanks. Something y'all may find interesting; MB owns Bridger.
I've heard that from Eric Bortz in the comments recently. I didn't know that. I'm surprised because the design is SO different! Either way we go, we have a great trap.
The mbs are springs are coiled down tighter which gives them more tension
I figured. They are STRONG. That is prob one of my favorite characteristics of the MB's. No need to 4 coil them!
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As others have stated you did a great job staying on topic. I use Bridgers and MBs and am looking at the dogless option for the bridgers which you covered in detail...so thanks.
Here is a question for you. You said you didn't like the rubber jawed MB550s...could you explain why?
Thanks Run. I don't believe I said anything about padded jaws in the video but that is a good point. I spoke about having an offset jaw and that it may reduce paw damage but I'm not so sure about that anymore. An offset jaw allows the trap to close a little further, which allows the lever to close further, which makes for a more secure hold on your catch. If you've ever found your trap discharged with a spring popped out you understand why an offset fills a need (not to mention a little bead weld or bend at the end of the jaws). Nothing takes the place of a quality trap though. In short, offsetting your jaws is NOT the solution to paw damage. Padded jaws are designed to fill that need. For me, I am not worried about paw damage. But, if you are concerned with paw damage a padded jaw is a good thing to consider. I would suggest to first try an offset jaw with a modified spring of lower tension. I may even test a trap after removing one of the two springs. I STRESS testing a single spring trap before taking it into the field though! Filing down the edges of the jaw where it will contact the paw will reduce damage as well. If you get padded jaws make sure the pads are secure each time you make a set as they can wear out. At this point you may be stepping into the 'trap modification' zone. So, I apologize if I gave the impression that I oppose padded jaws. I do not. They are just another option for us to consider. I hope you figure it out.
...also, have you considered laminating the jaws instead?
Thanks for the reply. My mistake on the padded jaw comment that was another video I saw from another channel. I actually strictly use offsets on my Bridger 2s and 3s in addition to my MB450s and 550s.
I have rubber padded all my Bridgers for two reasons. First my targets are strictly coyotes. I have adjusted my pan tension but on occasions I have caught non-targets. I have noticed paw damage and lower leg damage due to the edges of the Bridgers. The MB550..no issues on that end. When I put the rubber pad kits on the Bridgers it was night and day as far as the paw damage. It was reduced significantly.
Second reason is when property owners are hesitant about trapping I show them padded traps and It lessons their concerns and I get a green light compared to when I would show them MB550 for example. Public perception outside the trapping circle is a real challenge.
Thanks again for the video..happy trapping.
Hey Ron, I could talk trapping all day. I'm happy to. I love it. Besides, I'm glad you brought this up, it's a good point. It may be that the MB550's have a larger area where the jaw contacts the leg. Laminating the jaws of your Bridgers should give you a similar result. Padding still sounds like the be best option though. As you said, it's night and day. Padded jaws meet that need.
If I may, as far as showing the property owners the padded jaws... I've been tossing around the idea of doing a video on talking to land owners for permission and I will make sure to include a part about showing them your equipment. I've found that showing them your equipment actually does damage. I'd encourage you to keep your gear tucked away. I used to show my gear, but I don't any more and there is a reason for that. Average Joe has a negative emotional reaction to traps. I've made a living out of reading body language and if you pay attention to the owner as you show them the trap there are red flags everywhere. Negative emotional responses end relationships FAST. If you are getting push back of any kind (hesitation as you said) showing them the steel isn't what I would suggest. I'll cover that more in the video I do. Thank you for getting me thinking about that. I think it's an important topic that could help a lot of folks out.
The single best argument for padded traps IMO, is with regard to INCIDENTAL CATCHES (as in 'the family pet'). If you catch their dog and damage the leg it gets ugly fast. Even if they were at fault. I guess the answer is padded, laminated, offset, single spring traps that are sprinkled with pixie dust! Just kidding. There really is NO perfect solution. You can be dead right and get kicked out just as if you were dead wrong. You can avoid all of that if you do this SINGLE most important thing... I'll talk about that more in the video :)
Pennsyltucky Trapper From my experience I show land owners my equipment "if" they are uninformed and unsure about trapping. I hunt and trap coyotes and by far trapping is more more effective at reducing the numbers. When I show them a trap..and actually pop the trap itself with my own hand in it and they see my fingers are not broken..bruised....etc...it debunks a lot of things they have heard. Every single time I have done this I have owners thanking me for showing them this. Next thing I know I have permission.
MB owns bridger. MB made in USA bridger is made in foreign country I think Taiwan. I may be wrong. And you can adjust the pan tension on MB, it's on MB website.
You are right. I only learned about adjusting the MB's after the recording. They adjust GREAT too. I haven't caught a skunk, cat, or opossum even 1 time this year and I believe it is because I have the pan adjusted correctly on my MB's. I'm not opposed to buying foreign products but I do look for American made first. I just think it's worth asking for USA made before going with something else. Thanks so much for helping to make that clear for everyone.
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Hi thanks for the videos. Hey are these traps set live for your video, looks like it. I'm new to this and I hope someone can make a full vid on trap safety for particular types of traps, it looks like lots of trappers tease you with showing off how they can handle the set traps and bed them it, makes me cringe ! Damn burned my finger today making stakes. Been preparing 6 traps do my first set tomorrow
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Hey so I actually love your video you had a lot of the same feelings about a lot of your traps as me but I had to disagree on one very important point I'm a Trapper and I love catching cats around my area we have an extreme feral cat problem we find Our Garbage strung out of our trash cans 60 yards across our turf
That's a legitimate pest animal that should be removed. I should have said something to that extent. I should do another video like this one just to 'update' some additional details like this. Thanks Chris.
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Very useful information!
Thanks buddy, glad it helped.
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im going to be buying a a bridger 1.65 for fox i heard to modify them and stuff what do you do do you just leave them or modify them a bunch
They are ready to go just as they come. You should soak them in boiling water so the oil comes off of them. That way they don't have an oily odor. After that you're in business. Bridger makes a first class trap. You could add a swivel and a shock spring, night latch it, or laminate the jaws but I recommend that you GO TRAPPING!!! Ha ha, good luck young man.
Pennsyltucky Trapper thanks
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You ain't the only one that had a problem with deer getting into traps ! Lol !
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good vids by the way good luck trapping this yr
Thank's Shawn. I hope you fill your shed and tags as well! Post lots of video.
Do you dye and wax your traps?
Yes. I believe it is important to protect the metal (dye them) and to keep them as scent free as possible (wax them). The wax makes them fire smoother as well as water proofs them to some degree. The dye usually makes them darker in color as well (black in my case) which makes them easier to hide when in the water or under a thin layer of dirt. Any advantage helps. Check back because I will be dipping my traps next week and I'll put together a video on how I do it. It's simple, I'm sure you'll be able to do it right on your first try.
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Donde puedo conseguirlas
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tanks video you mb 650 trap no ? im mb 650 trap
Your very welcome. I had fun making this one. I picked up a arm load of MB's and this fall we are going to plant them and see what grows. Thanks for stopping in.
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Seems like something felt the trap shift and moved
Perhaps. Thanks for watching it till the end. I miss a lot every year. Probably more than I realize.
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the best reason for a dogless as opposed to a dog is it will fire when a dog is frozen. I run Bridger #3 Dogless and MB 550s. Pan tension ..lol I have caught lots of squirrel and rabbits. So pan tension is a joke. When a squirrel or rabbit jumps on the pan it will fire. It doesn't matter the weight, it is the pressure from then jump which sets it off. Plus how much tension you talking. remember the cat weights about 10 lbs.
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if I get any this yr I will get footage n post. just got ought the stone age this winter n got a phone computer device deal that everyone has got. my daughter guna help me figure it out lol.
It's a lot of fun, you'll see.
I would guess that your tracks are a small Fox. It's really hard to tell from the video.
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u bend the dog on mb changes pan tensent
Your right, my mistake. Love that trap.
lol yea I need to take a u tube class or somthing I can yap all day long got that figured out, just can't figure out picture or g mail thing uhg
I can relate to that :)
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Them deer can miss up a wet dream if they had one ! Lol !
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Big foot tracks ! Lol !
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I'd say I'm in trouble then lol. Randall Rydes is my active channel ruclips.net/video/OhC8z4bsk3Q/видео.html
The Bridger doesn’t have play in it when it set right.
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They are superior. IMHO Stay with my by following the link above. Thanks.
Just gave you a shout out in my latest vid. Hopefully I can send a few subs your way! I'm trying out the Bridger dogless #2s this season along with my MB 550s. I've been really digging your channel, great vids! All the best my friend!
Great traps, both of them. You'll do great I'm sure. Thanks for the support Johnny.
mbs have music wire springs
Strong enough to hold a bear I bet :)
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the tracks look like a waumpus cat
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like u . why buy to have to modify? not going to happen here either
Exactly!? To each their own I guess...? My opinion is NOT everyone's. Thanks for checking in with me Timothy.
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i prefer dogs on my traps mainly because 99% of my coil springs have dogs
We all have our personal preference. Either are great traps, can't make a bad choice here :)
thats right
Every cat is a target.
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Bob cat yeah !! Lol !
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if anything just needs bigger pans
It wouldn't take much to make the pan larger. Maybe a pan from a larger model would be simple enough to swap out?
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lmao..nice made in the U.S ref.
Ha ha, yeah. There are only a few U.S. made traps. MB's are one of the best.
hey dont bother me I,m watching your other video dang it
Ha that's great! Have at it!
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Google translated this for me (I have NO IDEA if it's close...?) Google translates it as: I do not have to do it in Thailand, or someone to sell it, do not want to do if you do not have a tool.
If you can't personally go out there and chase critters then just stop by my youtube channel and some of my friends channels. Thailand looks like a beautiful country. What kind of outdoor activities are legal?
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Cats make great bait though
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if ya send me an email address again I'll send you a picture of one I got that was disposed of I think I figured out how to email a pic. he was big white one with black tips. truly a beauty
I'd love to see that. You can send me a message at anytime using my youtube channel. Go to the 'about' link above and click on 'send message'. Thanks Shawn.
looked like little pig tracks
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Bigfoot??? I have seen real tracks in colorado
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I'd love to catch a Bigfoot! Question, KILL or NO KILL???
@@PennsyltuckyTrapper wow well here's my take.
If they wanted me they could have me no problem
I'm hunting alone or scouting and in the middle of nowhere.
But there's plenty of food...elk deer available.
One strange thing is the unit I hunt in Colorado has a low success rate and overall not tons of elk.
This year it went from over the counter to a draw unit.
They are blaming low numbers and high hunter pressure.
All while they introduce the wolf back into Colorado.
So no kill unless I'm attacked...then it's game on if I am