Thank you for carefully weighing out your content! I’m in a similar headspace with rebuilding my old blog, and I’m finding that quality and truth are more important than quantity. And those things only come with my own growth.
I’ve had good experiences and bad experiences within the same churches, but because I had grown and I’m willing to change with new information. I grew up as a Seventh Day Adventist and that was the most traumatic and I left church for my whole adult life until my 40’s. I’ve been in and out since. The religious quips have been the hardest to deal with when I’ve been down but I’m realizing now to go to God and I have found other supportive (and predatory) people online.
Interesting insights! Myself was raised Pentecostal, we had kids raised them Pentecostal. One of our kiddos went to graduate school embraced atheism. Prayed hard and he actually converted to Catholicism. While we differ on some aspects of faith the most important thing for me is that he is talking to Jesus, he loves his community of faith. The whole process showed me so many aspects of my own faith that were so judgmental! Peace to you all as you search for truth!!!
I was saved out of the new age/new thought deception and into a church that has lots of connections with Bethel and many in leadership roles went to BSSM. I didn't know what Bethel was at first. Then I started noticing the lingo that was being used and the theology being shared had a certain ring to it, similar to the new age. Lots of buzz words like: "breakthrough, activation, annointing". Some of the leadership was also very influenced by E.W Kenyon and the Holiness Movement. A year in as a new Christian, I was teaching K-1 in the school affiliated with the church lead by a man who went to BSSM and whose main influence was Kris Vallotton. At that point, I had read some books Bethel put out including Physics of Heaven. I also witnessed a worship session with kids where the wife of the head od school started a "fire tunnel" (which I had never heard of but it felt right up the alley of something I would have done in a new age class). She then started to laugh uncontrollably. I was becoming more and more concerned that my family was involved in a church that was syncritized to the New Age, playing with strange fire, and ultimately trusting in signs, miracles and wonders instead Jesus. They were teaching a prosperity gospel about how we don't need to deal with sickness, if it didn't happen in the garden, then it doesn't need to happen now. They were also doing positive declarations in Jesus name. My husband and I slowly realized what we were in with the help of faithful brothers and sisters in Christ and we wanted nothing to do with it. I set up a meeting with the head of school in hopes of going to the word and doing a Berean study. He got quite upset and said that if Bethel wasn't for me then the school probably wasn't for me. I experienced serious attempts of spiritual manipulation for the rest of the year. Praise God my husband intervened. We met with the pastor, who just sat there quietly, while the head of school interrogated me on what I had said to others in the school and at one point asked if I was going to submit to him. We ran from that place after the end of the school year. We were shunned by some, still good friends with others. It's hard to see them still stuck in it. Doing Sozos, etc. They think we are the weaker brother. Praying the Lord will continue to guide all of us into all Truth. We are in a wonderful church now and praising God he made a path for us!
So Bill Johnson? I’ve been a charismatic for awhile and I’ve had experiences. Just because there’s unacceptable behaviors somewhere doesn’t mean the whole theology is bad. My opinion.
Disappointed, shattered with Bethel, Daystar, & especially Daystar , Joni Lamb needs to be step down, & Shawn Bolz truth was eventually was going to be exposed..
Yay! I was wondering where you went and now you’re back! Love the new channel name! Happy to be here 😊
Thank you!
Thank you for carefully weighing out your content! I’m in a similar headspace with rebuilding my old blog, and I’m finding that quality and truth are more important than quantity. And those things only come with my own growth.
So glad to have you back! It sounds like it’ll be a a fascinating series!
Thank you 🙏🏼
I’ve had good experiences and bad experiences within the same churches, but because I had grown and I’m willing to change with new information. I grew up as a Seventh Day Adventist and that was the most traumatic and I left church for my whole adult life until my 40’s. I’ve been in and out since. The religious quips have been the hardest to deal with when I’ve been down but I’m realizing now to go to God and I have found other supportive (and predatory) people online.
Awesome to see you back on here! Looking forward to it.
Hey, thanks!
I’m really looking forward to this series. I was raised Pentecostal, now I lean more reformed.
Awesome!
Dialogue is good. So many don't want to talk to people who disagree with them, avoiding heretical cooties.
Thanks buddy!
Can’t wait!!!! So glad you’re recording again!
Me too!! Thank you 🙏🏼
Here for it 🙌
Thank you 🙏🏼
im reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally looking forward to this!!!
Thanks!
Appreciate you sharing Brother!
looking forward to the videos
Thank you 🙏🏼
Interesting insights! Myself was raised Pentecostal, we had kids raised them Pentecostal. One of our kiddos went to graduate school embraced atheism. Prayed hard and he actually converted to Catholicism. While we differ on some aspects of faith the most important thing for me is that he is talking to Jesus, he loves his community of faith. The whole process showed me so many aspects of my own faith that were so judgmental!
Peace to you all as you search for truth!!!
DO NOT GO BACK TO HERESY OF BETHEL!!🙏✝️
Lol I'm not. the series is called "Back to Bethel" as a reference to people recounting their experience at Bethel.
I was saved out of the new age/new thought deception and into a church that has lots of connections with Bethel and many in leadership roles went to BSSM. I didn't know what Bethel was at first. Then I started noticing the lingo that was being used and the theology being shared had a certain ring to it, similar to the new age. Lots of buzz words like: "breakthrough, activation, annointing". Some of the leadership was also very influenced by E.W Kenyon and the Holiness Movement. A year in as a new Christian, I was teaching K-1 in the school affiliated with the church lead by a man who went to BSSM and whose main influence was Kris Vallotton. At that point, I had read some books Bethel put out including Physics of Heaven. I also witnessed a worship session with kids where the wife of the head od school started a "fire tunnel" (which I had never heard of but it felt right up the alley of something I would have done in a new age class). She then started to laugh uncontrollably. I was becoming more and more concerned that my family was involved in a church that was syncritized to the New Age, playing with strange fire, and ultimately trusting in signs, miracles and wonders instead Jesus. They were teaching a prosperity gospel about how we don't need to deal with sickness, if it didn't happen in the garden, then it doesn't need to happen now. They were also doing positive declarations in Jesus name. My husband and I slowly realized what we were in with the help of faithful brothers and sisters in Christ and we wanted nothing to do with it. I set up a meeting with the head of school in hopes of going to the word and doing a Berean study. He got quite upset and said that if Bethel wasn't for me then the school probably wasn't for me. I experienced serious attempts of spiritual manipulation for the rest of the year. Praise God my husband intervened. We met with the pastor, who just sat there quietly, while the head of school interrogated me on what I had said to others in the school and at one point asked if I was going to submit to him. We ran from that place after the end of the school year. We were shunned by some, still good friends with others. It's hard to see them still stuck in it. Doing Sozos, etc. They think we are the weaker brother. Praying the Lord will continue to guide all of us into all Truth.
We are in a wonderful church now and praising God he made a path for us!
🙌🏼🙌🏼
Hi Jesse, I sent you an email. The first one bounced back because I think you left out the 's' from Westwoods. God bless
Looking into it now!
Do not go back to Bethel! Spiritual manipulation survivor ❤
Did you watch the video? 😂 it’s called “Back To Bethel” because people are telling their experience at BSSM as a graduate
So Bill Johnson? I’ve been a charismatic for awhile and I’ve had experiences. Just because there’s unacceptable behaviors somewhere doesn’t mean the whole theology is bad. My opinion.
Disappointed, shattered with Bethel, Daystar, & especially Daystar , Joni Lamb needs to be step down, & Shawn Bolz truth was eventually was going to be exposed..