Chess Grandmasters vs. Cheaters
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Magnus still winning against a cheater is just so funny for no reason
Can someone check if the cheater used all the #1 top engine move in that last game in this video?
@@scottwarren4998 prob not cause of time trouble
@@scottwarren4998i, seen ur comment multiple times on others, so I have run a depth 20 stockfish 15.1 analysis on the moves of the last game. Surprisingly, Magnus played more, better moves than the cheater himself, which is hilarious. Either the cheater's engine depth was low since he had to play fast, or the cheater was using a different engine, or perhaps he was intentionally not playing the best moves. Overall, the cheater did play basically all great/best moves throughout the game, and so did Magnus. The best part is that Magnus was completely drawn with the cheater, which isn't anything too weird as Levy has said, the position wasn't sharp at all so Magnus managed to draw
@@DylanKJW the cheater mixed the engine moves with his moves
@@DylanKJW Your analysis should match the same time they had in their game, otherwise you ofcourse will get better moves from your engine cos of higher time.
Magnus when he sees a cheater: Finally, a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary!
and they continue to play chess on shaky hanging bridge 😃
Yes!
The chess engines are human made so technically it isnt cheating to use them. i do it in most of my games.
@@SoyAntonioGaming Tell me you're joking pls
@@niceperson4086 If I meet Magnus Carlsson he would probably be happy to struggle against me. He always wins against people who refuse to use Stockfish. so he would enjoy the challenge more if I use an engine against him.
So it's basically GMs being humiliated by Stockfish and Magnus casually winning against Stockfish.
Thing is the last game, magnus has a video on that. N there was a certain point in the vid where he knew his opponent was cheating.
@@GJAkuo can you link the video?
@@purplewine7362 U can type in Magnus beats cheater and itll pop up. The exact game that Levy showed. But its with Magnus facecam talking bout the game as he’s playing it.
He won on time you can’t beat an engine even if it only had a pawn
@@talal6983yes u could
I bet Magnus was sitting at his computer emotionless as he played the cheater💀💀
"he played really well for his rating, that's true."
I bet he was eating 90% of his thinking time
@@mattshuey1 there's no doubt about that
Cheater: You can not beat me
Hikaru: I know, but he can
(Magnus Carlsen appears)
Liking this because I have already seen 2 bots that stole this comment, and this appears to be the original
Carlsen; i have a very special set of skills...
@@Hamsonbumble humans stealing bot moves vs bots stealing human comments, who would win?
@@suezuccati304 humans coding the bots
@HamsonBumbleroot I've never seen bots copying people's comments before. I wonder if they also play the Petrov, am I right, folks?
Imagine having Stockfish as a chess coach. You're an unstoppable bastard.
ruclips.net/user/shortsggJZlNJ89y0?feature=share he is too good😂
Isn't that what learning with an engine is though?
@@guacca coaching and saying the best moves aint the same
nah u still can't do whole a lot , i mean all top players train with engines , in fact that's what magnus is famous for is that he takes you away from preperation early in the game , cuz there are some lines where engines won't give a f abt , magnus starts that line OTB and then it's just memory and skills
Can someone check if the cheater used all the #1 top engine move in that last game in this video?
It blows my mind that Magnus has openly said he’d never play against a computer like Kasparov…but when he did, he actually forced it to struggle.
You’re braindead if you think it was high depth and if it was a bot Magnus would lose easily
Didn't he play against a magnus style bot that he was promoting? I remember some play magnus program and him playing it in a promotional video
"The best Chess player is not Magnus Carlsen, it's someone who is cheating"
Someone who is cheating: Loses to Magnus on time
it was a set up game.
a person next to me pm ed magnus s stuff to make the game happend but only if i didn t open using stockfish so magnus would have a chance to stealmate or draw.
i asked for it cause i wanted to see irl his lv vs stockfish
that didn t happened vs hiukaru and daniel.this is just trying to promote magnus cause this dude s simiping for him. magnus played vs one line one low old stockfish from 20120 that was lower then what he s practicein on while dani and hiukaru played vs a dude that know the lines that lead to all the endgames he wanted to play and use stockfish to prepre 3 diferent variations of what the game was played is.
but sure i bet you rn if magnus played vs anyway human that has played 10k to 20 k games of chess in the last 30-40 days out of thouse 90%bullet out of the rest 10%,5 played using and 5%vs stockfish i garantee you he would not stand any chanse if that dude had only 1 stockfish to make sure its not a bad line or stealmate were he s going,shh. no matter how much time they have in chess its a game limited sorry.
its like now days football players trayining in vr to not get legs broken ofc he s gonna be better you regular guys just didn t train enough using stockfish
@@idkwhattousehere1 I'm sure of it buddy...
@@dororix9047 So you wanna go into who exactly talked to mahmur about that ?Well i am pretty sure the logs of the talk are on this twich since my buddy the set it up contactez them there,but sure why ever go vs a big Image player better milk there words cause you can t be better the underatnad was meme or or his not playing cause he dont wanna lose vs stick fish its pot deal whit it he S a player that s learning from computer not teaching it
@@idkwhattousehere1 I'm not ready all that until you learn proper grammar mate, I had a stroke trying to comprehend that text....
@@dororix9047 like i care:) come around to just explain the dif from Daniel and hiikaru games and magnus.daniel was the only one who played like a camp and didn t tilT magnus had know from Eve for he S gonna play stockfish,hhiukaru acted like a little baby “i am a pro played your are geting baned i swere you are hering baned i am a pro player” that how he reacted.
Stop simping,i played thouse games i know better then you how it happened l.
Daniel its the camp in thouse times i played all of them.the only one to play to win but also let his oponent have a chance consider ING he was playing a lower rated player from his point of view.
That why hoikaru got Crush and Daniel was just defeted he let the king walks i tryed the king walk vs many players only dania let me have it after seening he can bet me.
Hiukaru played only to win and got title d as a kid when put in his place by stockfiah and me baited him while magnus didn t even wanna play vs a real opening stockfish….
Be real.
22:35 What's incredible is that stockfish managed to hold even with MAGNUS for so long.
Magnus ended up +0.3 too lol. He was beating the engine
@@ExplorersXRotmg +0.3 isn't "beating the engine" lol.
You eval bar merchants are hilarious honestly
@@ChessAndNotCheckers for normal players +0.3 obviously doesnt matter, but at the super GM level, +0.3 isn't exactly beating the engine but is a pretty decent advantage, if magnus had infinite time to calculate, he could probably convert the position into a winning one
@@idiot4177+0.3 just isn't substantial enough to be an advantage honestly, you need at least +0.5 at least to have even a sizeable advantage, and even with +0.5, some positions can still be drawn
@@ExplorersXRotmg you must be 300
"Nobody at 2400 or above moves the knight 6 times in a row" - Magnus who plays Ring Around The Rosie with his king
Cheaters: “I’m unstoppable!!”
Magnus: “Hold my beer…”
Han's Neiman still won him. It doesn't make sense to win a cheater if he lost to a cheater
@@stavros222 except for the fact that he has winning head to head score against Niemann so there goes your point to the bin lol
@williamrobert9898 I saw Neiman winning magnus tho. Where magnus won Hans? I'm speaking about Hans when he is cheating
@@stavros222 😂 switching gears already? Lol
@@williamrobert9898 wdym? I said the same things
Levy: It's rare to see Magnus play a cheater.
Hans: Am I a joke to you?
He did a long pause after he said that, and was definitely considering making a Hans joke but opted against it.
This should be pinned!
After this game stockfish should definitely learn from Magnus
Stop l. Magnus a.
@@johnmindson237 ...what?
@@arsenioaribawono o pini mi, jan Makunasu a!
what’s stock fish
@@jdub4k currently the best chess engibe
Levy saying Frank isnt the best chess player in the world feels illegal, he would defeat Levy using only 0.01% power
Frank is a dumbass getting milked for content, I personally believe that he is extremely annoying and over saturated, and not in a good way like Levy
Word
Frank would destroy every cheater
@HeisenbergFam would you be able to beat Jesse in a Chess match?
Ok I'll say it again, dude you're everywhere!!
"every human will make an inaccuracy at some point"
Magnus isnt human
Magnus is guy who come late to school and punishes his teachers for coming early
Levy: every human beeing is making mistakes
Magnus: let me prove you wrong
Cheater: “you can’t beat me, I’m using stock fish”
Magnus: *chuckles* “you fool… I AM STOCKFISH!”
Or "you fool....I MADE STOCKFISH"
He is not Stockfish, he is Stockshark
@@jankun24 best reply.
Magnus proving once again that whenever he plays a human, he's sword-fighting with his left hand. If you know, you know.
Uh yeah you are talking about the old gigachad Dr. Livesey right
"Sit at the chess board and play with yourself, it's great"
-Magnus Carlses
@@adrialsagadia6190 no, no! The man in black!
You seem a decent fellow, I hate to die
Vishy Vs Nikhil Kamath game should be covered in this episode. That's probably the most famous GM vs cheater game.
I know you have made a dedicated episode on that game, but still it served a mention in this episode as well.
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Heyyyyy, how are you guys?
Big fan here🙂
i guess he has already covered that game way before
No
@@stevenadar4704 Indeed, about a year ago :)
Magnus was never in a losing position vs a cheater 💀
He never even lost equality. That was insane
Magnus: being the endgame GOAT keeping level with stockfish
Cheater: WTF is Magnus even human?
Answer = No.
My god Magnus literally defeated a computer.
Gotham did too not too many videos back… cheaters can still time out
He defeated a cheater using a computer. Still impressive, but your wording makes it seems like he can fairly beat a modern engine. Which he can't.
@@scoutbane1651 i think what's amazing is that it was going to be a draw even if there was no time limit, so we can basically say he drew the engine. but yeah beating it is not possible
🎣🎣
@@user-ee1lo1il3f Oh yeah for sure. I'm just saying, if you play perfectly... you're going to draw, not win. You'll never win against modern full-power stockfish. It's just not achievable for a human, even someone like Magnus. But drawing is still impressive I agree, it means he just played a perfect game (or damn near it).
16:25 just made AI’s taking over world seem a whole lot more serious. Holy shit, that mate is fucking brutal
Metaphorically that whole game shows how an AI takeover will look like in the real world. It's going to "make moves" which to us seem very unnatural but turn out to be brilliant in the long term.
@@haas1298brilliant for it maybe
trap set in advance, the man quit once he saw the trap, it doesn't show you the game where I lost him right before I beat him or it was a draw, though mind you I used 3 devices to make sure the Lines where i was going to have the ending i planned for i kind of made him think of another game the games you see so hiukaru was also 1-2 or so against stockfish 1 .5-2.5.
I used people like Dani to make sure I knew what lines to counter them so later they just played to not lose so I picked ways to collect your pieces not just match them directly with your best moves as this can be countered. playing more standard and just going for the draw, which we didn't do. Hiukaru was looking to win, that's why he lost.
Hans Niemann: *nervous sweating*
Same for every other grandmaster
in childhood , we all thought that our dads could defeat any person who tried to bully us or harm us...
today, magnus is the only guy who gives that protective feeling that what if cheaters are there, he is gonna fight back and win for us
Petition for Levi to arrange a match between XQC and Frank. Imagine the amount of content you can milk from that.
who’s Levi?
@@joshdavis8832 Just Levi ;)
No one cares about that Frank guy
@@e.d.1642 how dare you insult the next world champion.
@@Temerityofficial21201 *next world champion. do not address him incorrectly
Danya's approach to potential cheaters is the best, always encouraging checking with the engine before making raondom claims, justifying and teaching us all how to check too :))
I usually is able to look to a depth of 15 moves if playing day chess. So the accuracy is sometimes unusually high, once did 100 one time
@@1mol831cool story bro
This video just proves how good Magnus is. Other GM’s were destroyed by the cheaters, yet Magnus kept the game even and even had a slightly better advantage in the end
Keep in mind there’s no way the engine made all the moves and this was likely an older version of SF. Magnus would lose very quickly against Stockfish 15.1 running at 100%. These cheaters purposely throw in mistakes or even blunders in order to seem “real”
Today's stare was nothing out of the ordinary but still the usual nerve-thrilling
It should go into the wikipedia entry for "millennial pause".
the subtle eyebrow raise immediately afterwards was pretty exciting
This is the most uninteresting meme ever
@@e.d.1642 your sense of humor is so dry it is actively exacerbating the world climate conflict.
sad stare
Cheater content and Magnus content are usually tied for the best chess content, so to see both in one video is a real treat. It didn't disappoint, either.
I still remember watching the Danya stream live when the cheater beat him while playing his favorite opening with black utilizing nonsense knight moves as an attempt to throw off the accuracy. It was absolutely wild!
This shows how much stronger an engine is even to human GM. An opponent plays dumb in the opening, which would never be reversible when 2 opponents are at that lvl, but still obliterating the GM in the end
magnus holding down a pawn and getting an equal position against cheater, then win on time is very insane !!
respect
Magnus must have trained Stockfish because he had all the right counter-moves.
He probably studied that line with stockfish and had that opening memories all the way to a stockfish theory draw tbh.
@@mubarkqardas46 exectly how that feeled like
Why cheat when you learn nothing?
because they cant take a loss
Dopamine
2:48 Magnus is doing this kinda stuff sometimes, so there is someone, and he ain't cheating
Well he's Carlos Magsen so he's counted separately
Cheater: You can't beat me
Magnus: Hold my Hikaru
2:51 "no grandmaster makes that many knight moves in opening"
Dubov:
Frank usually gets low accuracy, which means he calculates further than stockfish does. Frank is the best.
stockfish cheater: "I am the John Wick of chess!"
Magnus: pulls a Chuck Norris
The first game is pretty hilarious with the cheater clearly throwing the game then making the top engine move for the rest of the game after move 50 lol.
magnus staying even for a whole match against an engine and winning is something truly remarkable.
Man i would live to see Hikaru's reaction on the second game. He got absolutely rekd.
There is actually a video showing Hikaru’s reaction to this loss
It was funny, he kept saying "Wait, wait, what is this? What is this?"
@@theliincoln8892 link or title of the video
How to Make an engine resign? Magnus : hold my beer
Using an anime image for the cheater is so spot on. In every online game, and anime girl profile poc means 30% higher chance they're a cheater.
That third game was insane cuz to realise there was -3 worth of compensation for the pawn is absurd especially in blitz
This video is so well edited. The Magnus game is legendary. This is so so good.
Levy doesnt edit, its just one straight shot.
Magnus secretly has stockfish installed in his brain
Bro that explains why Magnus is better than Hikaru because hikaru only has stockfish in his ceiling not in his brain
magnus when he sees a cheater: "oi mate anybody got a bloody stubby holder? i need both hands to give the ol aussie salute to this legless banana bender" (He's australian right?)
Had my heart broken this weekend.The thing was in bits. Thanks for the content that always helps my day, especially days like these.
🧸
Tell it to the bottom of a bottle
It will pass mate, all the best!
@@jrnd3484 we've had many talks
@@ss9392 thanks mate
I was playing on lichess yesterday, and I was in a winning position. The opponent wrote in the meesage section 'it's so obvious that you are cheating'.. I got a surprise and asked him what he was talking about... he said, I learned to know when someone is cheating, and I'm going to report your account'... i was so weirded out that I went on to blunder the game, lost my queen and resigned.
I hope you didn't blunder on purpose :( The moderators are extremely precise with determining real from fake.
Back in my Counter-Strike days, I always took it as a HUGE compliment when people thought I was AIM botting or cheating. It really is the best compliment you can receive when you know that you are in fact, not cheating. Haha
The Magnus game reminded me of early chess computer games where you could exploit the strategy style of the computer.
Magnus vs cheater
Magnus trades the pieces, converts into an endgame.
And forget about winning, Magnus is the real engine in endgame.
Magnus really said pull up bro
Magnus: Call an ambulance...
... But not for me.
I'd absolutely love to see clips of the gms reactions once they realise they're playing a cheater
I have 3 games where hikaru played cheaters
@@raphaelkyembe4407 link?
@@A7MDRetr0 ruclips.net/video/ryIIpwQ4XkY/видео.html
I saw a way out.
King to B7, white will hunt king.
King to A1 or A2, white will continue to hunt, but Rook comes to block, if A2, forcing white to Q to D4 taking pawn, Bishop to take Queen.
From there, advantage black.
Detecting and preventing cheating in online chess feels like an impossible battle. At this point you can easily train an AI to keep the game even until the final moves. Especially the end game where the number of moves available is much smaller.
Magnus still beat them 😂
Hans niemaan having the honour to be both
Plot twist, Magnus was actually trolling Hikaru
As someone who is new to chess I thought cheating meant somehow moving pieces in ways they shouldn't by somehow hacking the game.
Now I realise it's just using a bot to dictate your moves.
When he said “the best player in the world is not frank” i was shocked jeeez the ladder changes so fast theese days
Wait, how is Frank not the best? I think Levy is being too humble. After all he trained him.
Why would you cheat in chess? There's like nothing to win. Only lose something, your dignity...
That was the most fun Magnus had at the whole event and everyone knows it 😂😂😂
For mothers and/or fathers day you do a guess the elo of kids against their parents. It would be cute
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What prompt did you enter into chat gpt for that poem?
Its cool
I like it
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0:14 “not frank”
Me: *OMG “not frank”?!? WHO IN THE HELL CAN IT BE?!?*
And the funny part is magnus said every move of the black is "okay, okay, okay"
Magnus said Hold my beer.
Nope he chugged his beer and slapped the cheater LoL
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"It's not Frank"
How dare you underestimate his power.
please do more of these kind of videos, really enjoy watching them
What can you say..he is Magnus
for that last player to cheat and still lose is kinda funny
I bet Hikaru just lost because he's an aggressive player who likes to use his queen a lot, but if he managed to force a queen trade, and bring it to a late game, I don't think he would lose so easily.
Imagine a cheater would castle with the opponent's king 💀
ruclips.net/user/shortsggJZlNJ89y0?feature=share he did that mistake here
Magnus actually able to control stockfish
Even if he had unlimited time he wouldn't have hold against Stockfish that bot isn't Stockfish honey.
@@walidali8669Yes he used stockfish for most of the moves
@@stianaandal1488 Nope it's not Stockfish
We can't see definite proof of cheating.
So basically, if you give a grandmaster a tough game you get banned? Great way to keep your grandmaster title - ban the people who you can't immediately stomp.
I never really tried to get better. I played when I was a kid, so I’m always rated 1400 on 10 minutes lol
The hikaru vs cheater 2 was just hilarious xD
True. I would play all the same moves as a cheater 2 ;p Pretty funny.
@@crystallized1676 No you wouldn't
the way that engines make the best players in the world look like children straight out of the womb at chess is terrifying
How interesting that the RUclips algorithm suggested me that video of Daniel playing the cheater earlier today even though I don't watch him at all.
Stockfish speaks for itself
Finally things are back to normal, and instead of goofy Gotham face we get Magnus in the thumbnail.
How can we be sure this isn't a drunk magnus getting his friends account banned for cheating as a prank?
I have absolutely zero games of actual chess played but your channel is so well put together and entertaining it makes me want to actually give it a shot.
Danya has faced a lot of cheaters in his educational "speedruns" and often does really well, often salvaging a draw. This game was a little bit misrepresentative if we're just showcasing GMs v cheaters, probably his worst defeat.
Magnus goddamn what a player 😂😂😂
I wouldn't be suprised if Magnus Carlsen knew his opponent was cheating at some point.
“It’s not frank”
BLASPHEMY
Hilarious video Levi, I definitely watched all of it already ❤
yeah, video was released 14 mins ago
@@neutroI yeah mate, snorted some Adderall and watched it 2.0x speed 🙄
@@K4NY3_ oh aight lol
My chess goal is to once be mistaken for a cheater.
and get banned
@@DraxleNation Ali Reza has completed this wish and got banned when he was just playing too good.
I wish i could just catch an opponent using stockfish just so i can say "I smell something fishy here"
Don't forget legendary Deva Kipas 😂
I’m a simple man, I see cheater, I click.