You would like a broadcaster to critique the play of the world champion and another elite player without help of a flawless computer analysis? I find Kaja to be very refreshing and a joy to watch and listen.
Even with having the eval they did not sound very reasonable. Also I dont understand why they did criticize Nb5 so much? Did seem almost like a forced move to me, honestly I did not check the position and Im only rated about 2000.
This commentary is awful. The point of commentary is to give insight into the moves being played and the decisions behind them, not to give surface level information that's already shown. The young woman gives too much surface level information, the older man gives far too little clear information, but the younger guy gave great commentary. Please let him talk more so he can give some actual colour to the match. Also, Niemann is absolutely not Magnus' rival. They aren't even close in level, they just don't like each other.
@@maximilianadair3237 the main issue is the strength of the commentators. kaja snare is a decent enough host, but she is basically a beginner at chess so she just isn't able to give any substantive commentary without relying on the eval bar. i believe the guy is an FM but i've never heard him provide commentary before so he may just be fairly new
So many commentators need the computer to analyze moves. Pretty much anyone who can analyze a tournament in real time of these high level of players is probably already playing in the event. But yeah, I agree that I would like more interesting commentating than just talking about the eval bar. I can look at the eval bar myself.
Y'all literally are updating the match on a phone? That isn't even charged? Update it in post for the love of God. Also the second they move faster than the intern can update their phone the commentary has nothing to say. Where is y'all money going?
The most frustrating thing about this is that they do. They are trying to follow a ridiculous commentary strategy that avoids using notation or showing variations. Whoever organized this thinks this will work to make the commentary more casual friendly. What it does in reality is make the commentary completely useless for both experienced players and casuals alike.
@@casperkejser1712 the point here is evn the GMs themselves playing the game dont fully understand wht theyre tryna do. Theres a reason tht both of em blundered a winning position cus they dont understand how tf they got there and how to finish the great positions they somehow got themselves into. And yet ppl still want a full on move per move breakdown frm the commentators? I think ppl are expecting too much 😅
I mean it's blitz and you expect live in-depth analysis!? If they could analyse that quickly they'd be playing themselves. Wait for the agadmator or someone else to go into more depth later
well actually you can get far better commentary on blitz with 2 improvements: 1. this is a clear case where using notations outshine random move descriptions. Bd5 to stop c5-c6 is a good move, is a better way to communicate than 'that seems like a good move.' 2. consistent move updates.
Horrendous commentary. The technical glitches are one thing but why does no one commentating seem to know how to evaluate a position without the bar working? If that's the case just get rid of the commentators and make sure the bars isn't delayed or disappearing.
It's blitz chess. Stop expecting to get well-reasoned position evaluations without the bar. Obviously the commentators aren't as good as the players or they'd be playing themselves
How did that lady get into chess commentating? She doesnt understand chess at all. Can interpret the eval bar and read the clock though, and also knows how pieces are named
Please don't talk about a pawn move and then not mention what move that is. Don't assume knowledge of theory. Especially when the board is rickety. And they did it again. Not using coordinates may seem more approachable but it just makes such fast games incoherent.
I still don’t get why there is writing on the eval bar, any player who is watching a chess livestream would probably find it more useful to have the numbers
Idk who is responsible for the Take Take Take app, but the guy didn't do his job well. The app has only one feature: "following games of my fav players." And i had a bad experience every time i opened the app since i downloaded it, lag, delay, crash. I'm not sure if i'm keeping the app on my phone anymore. As a dev myself i can understand that performance of the app considering the time pressure and deadlines, but damn bro there's nothing getting better. Save the marketing money and hire a good dev.
Two, but only one gets to speak at a time... probably one to cite chess analysis, the other to call out the Eval Bar and ask first person why it moved.
Please take Kaja away from commentary. She is makimg me regret follow this channel. I was okay with her speaking ocassionally with David and Jovanka but now she is annoying. She is like a personal cheerleader of Magnus, nothing else :/
The board is completely broken and buggy. Commentators have absolutely no clue what's going on and just read the eval bar. Not a good look for Take Take Take.
i can't stand commentators who obviously don't get the game...but comment on how much better the bar is. at least some have the decency to say "i don't get the move" instead of just praising the computer eval.
What a hectic production. No one can keep track of the boards. Now we have the camera shot capturing the kid doing the bathroom dance the whole time. What an absolutely pathetic production.
The only commenting should be on threats such as blocking in magnus’s pawn, etc. If these aren’t found live, or unable to be spotted by these commentators, then don’t say anything and review and comment about the game afterwards. It’s clear that no viewers from these comments want to hear these commentators give live comments or let alone would stick around to hear them review the game afterwards. This video is up there with worst chess coverage I’ve seen.
@@freezericyyt6141 Except it never happens to Magnus. He's always the one who's cool as a cucumber. So, yes, he was uncharacteristically nervous in this game.
Do the commentators know chess? I don't mean to be rude but like c'mon they're narrating it like I would do it if I was there. That's not a good thing. Also how can the phone screen be so laggy (when it's there). Is there no better way to do it? I hate to do mean comments and Im sorry, but I rlly want better quality for this
What a horrible broadcast. Multiple technical bugs, worst of which was failing to show half of the moves leading up to totally crashing in the time scramble. The woman commentator is parroting the other commentators or whatever the eval bar/clock happen to read. Miserable
So the commentary is just an exaggerating hype woman with the thickest Norwegian accent ever? Super annoying "commentary" to listen to. Give us some insights instead, we can see the eval bar ourselves, and the chessboard graphics is lagging. Not a good experience at all. Get a camera angle above the chess board.
Such horrible commentary man, only talking about the eval bar the whole time (WE BLOODY SEE IT). And Kaja is so clueless about chess (thinks its a boxing match) and what's happening on the board that its useless to watch Take Take Take. Neither commentator even mentioned the name of the opening the players chose to play apart from pointing out the obvious all the time. Its annoying and viewers have given enough feedback to make a change.
chess commentary should be more like ASMR, its not an exciting game, regardless of the forced anxiety of short time controls, so it never sounds right when people try to hype it
Can you people perhaps hire someone that actually understands the game of chess? lmao woman was giving information about the time/eval bar that was literally already written on the screen 😂
Beating up Hikaru on the board and holding a draw against the greatest player of all time with 3 seconds on the clock. Hans is becoming one of the greats. Keep going Hans.
@lovetownsend Yep just FIDE not getting sponsors / sorting stuff out. Hence Magnus et als Freestyle championship next year, which they can't call a world championship as FIDE claims naming rights to the tournament they don't hold :)
The boy standing behind the clock is fidgeting like he could be pee himself any second. I wouldn’t be able to play if I saw that in the corner of my eye 😩
@@prateekc7804 Apparently we're watching different videos. I would like to view yours, because in mine the moves update 5 minutes later, or never at all
I don’t want to hear the eval bar and clock constantly. Just express gut reactions to moves in a time scramble and if you don’t know chess enough to be able to do that then saying nothing is better than talking just for the sake of it. I thought the guys did a fine job though.
can they not put the camera directly above the board so we have a better view of the pieces?
They thought we'd have flying cars in 2024. Instead we still have these problems
The problem is that it's hard to tell the pieces apart from the top sometimes, so there's not really a good middle ground
Bro there's a board on the left
@ you mean the board that wasn't up to date half the video then cut out and disappeared for the last quarter? How is that at all reliable?
@jasonr93 Wouldn't the best solution to that problem be to fix the digital board and not add a whole new camera angle?
These commentators are just narrating the eval bar lol
how could they comment a blitz game then ?
What eval bar? its literally bugged.
This is poorly narrated
get rid of the classical commentator.....
You would like a broadcaster to critique the play of the world champion and another elite player without help of a flawless computer analysis? I find Kaja to be very refreshing and a joy to watch and listen.
The delay showing the moves on the board is annoying, also clock disapere sometimes. Try to fix that to next time please. 😐
No. Provide your own broadcast, commentary, and all. You think you are better? No. Just watch what’s given you ungrateful embicile!
yes, it was completely useless almost
The DGT boards are using useless technology from decades ago. They need to go away.
It was on FIDE’s broadcasting side.
It's blitz dude.
I wonder what the commentators would be saying if they didn't see who was playing and the evaluation bar lol
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Even with having the eval they did not sound very reasonable. Also I dont understand why they did criticize Nb5 so much? Did seem almost like a forced move to me, honestly I did not check the position and Im only rated about 2000.
"Immense Magnus, ankara Magnus, ankara Magnus, ankara Magnus"
"Ankara Magnus, ankara Magnus, ankara Magnus"
This commentary is awful. The point of commentary is to give insight into the moves being played and the decisions behind them, not to give surface level information that's already shown. The young woman gives too much surface level information, the older man gives far too little clear information, but the younger guy gave great commentary. Please let him talk more so he can give some actual colour to the match.
Also, Niemann is absolutely not Magnus' rival. They aren't even close in level, they just don't like each other.
its blitz, there is no time to explain moves properly.
it's still terrible commentary though.
I also think they can't see the board lol
@@maximilianadair3237 the main issue is the strength of the commentators. kaja snare is a decent enough host, but she is basically a beginner at chess so she just isn't able to give any substantive commentary without relying on the eval bar. i believe the guy is an FM but i've never heard him provide commentary before so he may just be fairly new
I think u have never saw chess base india those ppl know how it's done @@steinanderson
So many commentators need the computer to analyze moves. Pretty much anyone who can analyze a tournament in real time of these high level of players is probably already playing in the event. But yeah, I agree that I would like more interesting commentating than just talking about the eval bar. I can look at the eval bar myself.
Y'all literally are updating the match on a phone? That isn't even charged? Update it in post for the love of God. Also the second they move faster than the intern can update their phone the commentary has nothing to say. Where is y'all money going?
Pants
This broadcast is so awful
Literally ran by idiots
Low Power Mode is a first in chess broadcast
i think the correct term is y’all’s*
I don’t think the commentators even understand what is going on
Magnus drew a winning position, han's was losing and scraped a draw. If those two didn't know what was going on, don't expect the commentators to.
@@HEDWARDMUSIC huh? Hans was winning after Rxb7...
The most frustrating thing about this is that they do. They are trying to follow a ridiculous commentary strategy that avoids using notation or showing variations. Whoever organized this thinks this will work to make the commentary more casual friendly. What it does in reality is make the commentary completely useless for both experienced players and casuals alike.
@@HEDWARDMUSIC I mean Hans blundered a winning position first at 4:11 Hans could've gone Nb5 and that would've trapped Magnus's rook
@@casperkejser1712 the point here is evn the GMs themselves playing the game dont fully understand wht theyre tryna do. Theres a reason tht both of em blundered a winning position cus they dont understand how tf they got there and how to finish the great positions they somehow got themselves into. And yet ppl still want a full on move per move breakdown frm the commentators? I think ppl are expecting too much 😅
The delay is awful, fix it!
Could yall go a little more in depth with commentary? It kinda just seemed like reaction to the eval bar and no insights which i was wanting to see
I mean it's blitz and you expect live in-depth analysis!? If they could analyse that quickly they'd be playing themselves. Wait for the agadmator or someone else to go into more depth later
no time
@@AmateurSurgeonThe3rdi also think same, in live it's hard to explain but reviewing games will be good
well actually you can get far better commentary on blitz with 2 improvements:
1. this is a clear case where using notations outshine random move descriptions. Bd5 to stop c5-c6 is a good move, is a better way to communicate than 'that seems like a good move.'
2. consistent move updates.
Mf its blitz, they cant speak for 3 seconds without a move being played, what in depth you want in this little time ?
Horrendous commentary. The technical glitches are one thing but why does no one commentating seem to know how to evaluate a position without the bar working? If that's the case just get rid of the commentators and make sure the bars isn't delayed or disappearing.
It's blitz chess. Stop expecting to get well-reasoned position evaluations without the bar. Obviously the commentators aren't as good as the players or they'd be playing themselves
@@AmateurSurgeonThe3rddude but they can’t be saying “some good moves there” like come on
This seems to happen a lot for a supposedly high level production
blue shirt kid is so happy, probably will remember it for the rest of his life
I thought you meant magnus for a second 😅
Magnus didn't even notice about his presence 😅
Peak excitement 8:09
… black mask dude must be fun at parties …
@@Hooper33Andrew Haha
Board has more lag than someone playing online street fighter on a hotspot in the middle of Siberia.
You cooking 😂😂
How did that lady get into chess commentating? She doesnt understand chess at all. Can interpret the eval bar and read the clock though, and also knows how pieces are named
I think she probably also knows how the pieces move
@@vanonu Except the horse. That one's tricky to remember.
I think she does good with moderation, which I believe she’s there for.
@@Rafi009 She adds nothing
That's why there are 2 experts sitting next to her.! But Kaja is a great interviewer and moderator, which is why she is there.
I've genuinely never heard a useful piece of commentary from Kaja
Almost like she’s a host and not an analyst
@@abraham7140 Then maybe the "host" should stay quiet during critical moments of the match
So we have video object tracking good enough for autonomous driving, but not good enough for tracking chess pieces in real time?
its Blitz
Wowwww
It is not good enough for autonomous driving but it could work well for this purpose.
how hard can it be to have the board move in real time and not skip 2-3 moves? very confusing
Idk. Commentary doesn’t really work for this. Just need Danya commenting he is one of the only ppl capable of commentating blitz
Isn't he playing in the tournament?!😅
@@zezeti2246 He can comment inbetween rounds via statellite lol
Please don't talk about a pawn move and then not mention what move that is. Don't assume knowledge of theory. Especially when the board is rickety. And they did it again. Not using coordinates may seem more approachable but it just makes such fast games incoherent.
h3
Blitz doesn’t need commentary… it’s best to watch with out.
Yet, in classical, commentary is necessary
I still don’t get why there is writing on the eval bar, any player who is watching a chess livestream would probably find it more useful to have the numbers
I'm for the captions as long as +3.6 shows as "not great, not terrible"
9:56 magnus slamed the bishop on the board in anger , hans got on his nerves 😂
Angry at himself for not converting.
What a game. Magnus was played optimal chess but Hans defended in time trouble. Takes needs to upgrade their virtual board.
Someone Take tak take all that moolah and none left for the virtual board 😂
Kaja is clueless about chess... why have her commentate a world tournament?
She is the hoster
host's voice is brash, digital board is late
Idk who is responsible for the Take Take Take app, but the guy didn't do his job well. The app has only one feature: "following games of my fav players." And i had a bad experience every time i opened the app since i downloaded it, lag, delay, crash. I'm not sure if i'm keeping the app on my phone anymore. As a dev myself i can understand that performance of the app considering the time pressure and deadlines, but damn bro there's nothing getting better. Save the marketing money and hire a good dev.
Commentator:
Who's winning Magnus or Niemann?
Take Take Take needs to get some unbiased commentators. I'm surprised they weren't throwing things at Hans to distract him.
It's not going to be unbiased. It's Magnus' company.
cope
With Kaja you are out of luck.
Magnus is co-founder of Take Take Take - but I actually think they give room for all sides to be heard.
Its so cool how their display board is laggy af and cant even keep up with the posistion 😂
Low battery
I would urge advertiser to avoid advertising in this platform. They don't deserve it.
Let's go with one commentator, sparsely commenting, and letting the chess speak for itself
Two, but only one gets to speak at a time... probably one to cite chess analysis, the other to call out the Eval Bar and ask first person why it moved.
The commentators don't even know what is happening on the board lol
Apparently they dont even know what's happening with their own display board lol
So good to hear the disappointment in these biased announcers voice.
Horrible coverage. Too much delay. Just show a close up of the actual board. Commentary is also weak.
give these commentators a fire!
What a great commentary guys, slow claps
Kaja has a career commentating on horse races.
But not on chess.
@diogenes2550 it's excruciating.
Levy farming views with this one
Why is the feedback board so crappy?
I have never played a single game of chess in my life. I could do the commentary that the woman did
> what is happening here
> idk, the bar approves
Please take Kaja away from commentary. She is makimg me regret follow this channel. I was okay with her speaking ocassionally with David and Jovanka but now she is annoying. She is like a personal cheerleader of Magnus, nothing else :/
Did the lady have a crash course in chess 1 hour before the stream? 😂
Why was Hans chair vibrating?
Maybe he's got a bead of his own? jk lol
Do all these people complaining about commentary know how hard it is to commentate an OTB Blitz game?
They didn't apply for the job.
The board is completely broken and buggy. Commentators have absolutely no clue what's going on and just read the eval bar. Not a good look for Take Take Take.
Is it so hard to timely sync the moves on the screen board in the 21st century?
i can't stand commentators who obviously don't get the game...but comment on how much better the bar is.
at least some have the decency to say "i don't get the move" instead of just praising the computer eval.
What a hectic production. No one can keep track of the boards. Now we have the camera shot capturing the kid doing the bathroom dance the whole time. What an absolutely pathetic production.
😂😂😂
8:35 "Neemainormainus"
at 6:55 where this shows "Winning Position", the ChessBaseIndia eval bar shows it as +0.6
The only commenting should be on threats such as blocking in magnus’s pawn, etc. If these aren’t found live, or unable to be spotted by these commentators, then don’t say anything and review and comment about the game afterwards. It’s clear that no viewers from these comments want to hear these commentators give live comments or let alone would stick around to hear them review the game afterwards. This video is up there with worst chess coverage I’ve seen.
why did they stop updating the board on the screen? that was annoying
Why are all the FIDE live boards always wrong? Unwatchable. It's 2024. I know we can do better.
Does anyone know what chess pieces these are?
I thought David Attenborough was commentating on the game.
NGL magnus was literally shaking in the endgame, I watched it live.
It was adrenaline lol, not fear like you're trying to portray. Happens to anyone who plays chess and I'm sure it's even worse at the higher levels
@@freezericyyt6141 Except it never happens to Magnus. He's always the one who's cool as a cucumber. So, yes, he was uncharacteristically nervous in this game.
@@JimmyBoosterCrate Did Magnus tell you that? Are you with him in every game he plays to know if he's shaking not?
@@JimmyBoosterCrate plus I never said he wasn't nervous, I said the nervousness was caused by adrenaline not fear
He has rematch with neimann in quarterfinals. let's see what happens.
Commentary is unbearable
Do the commentators know chess? I don't mean to be rude but like c'mon they're narrating it like I would do it if I was there. That's not a good thing.
Also how can the phone screen be so laggy (when it's there). Is there no better way to do it?
I hate to do mean comments and Im sorry, but I rlly want better quality for this
The delay isn’t very pleasing with the moves, I think there a ton of constructive critism in these comments.
What a horrible broadcast. Multiple technical bugs, worst of which was failing to show half of the moves leading up to totally crashing in the time scramble. The woman commentator is parroting the other commentators or whatever the eval bar/clock happen to read. Miserable
BOTH WERENT EXPECTING HANDSHAKE FROM EACH OTHER STILL PULLED IT
You guys definitely have to fix the live board. So frustrating.
It's not their fault. It's the broadcasting from New York. It's the same problem on all channels sending live.
@ no way… here in Norway the live board goes just alright 👍
So the commentary is just an exaggerating hype woman with the thickest Norwegian accent ever? Super annoying "commentary" to listen to. Give us some insights instead, we can see the eval bar ourselves, and the chessboard graphics is lagging. Not a good experience at all. Get a camera angle above the chess board.
Could show any ideas a lot clearer if they could draw arrows on the board
@8:05 "what is happening here??"
Me : The video is lagging
The eval board is several moves behind the live board and the commentary. Rather frustrating way to be shown the game.
Don't even bother uploading these if you can't show the moves on the separate board without massive delays.
Commentators, the audience doesn’t need to hear you about the time of the clock or it getting low. It’s incremental blitz. It’s always low. Lmao
The broadcaster sacrificed a proper digital board and chose a crappy camera angle just to show them jeans 😂
That was barely watchable. The board on the left was moves behind what was actually being played and the comms were unable to verbalise anything.
Such horrible commentary man, only talking about the eval bar the whole time (WE BLOODY SEE IT). And Kaja is so clueless about chess (thinks its a boxing match) and what's happening on the board that its useless to watch Take Take Take. Neither commentator even mentioned the name of the opening the players chose to play apart from pointing out the obvious all the time. Its annoying and viewers have given enough feedback to make a change.
chess commentary should be more like ASMR, its not an exciting game, regardless of the forced anxiety of short time controls, so it never sounds right when people try to hype it
why the moves on the board so lag. Might as well don't broadcast. Boo
Can you people perhaps hire someone that actually understands the game of chess? lmao woman was giving information about the time/eval bar that was literally already written on the screen 😂
Beating up Hikaru on the board and holding a draw against the greatest player of all time with 3 seconds on the clock. Hans is becoming one of the greats. Keep going Hans.
For sure...he's getting much better
Umm, Hans was much worse in both games, it was more about Hikaru and Magnus throwing than Hans being great.
@@mikspp6415 One of the traits about a great player is knowing when the opponent makes mistakes and capitalize the emerging opportunities.
is it me or do these mics look like the hendheld points of those walker devices for elderly...
wtf is this delay?
For the life of me I can't figure out who 2024 Fischer Random World Champion is, google isn't helping, does anyone know?
Hasn't been played since 2022. Hikaru holds the title from then.
@@thejoyofchecks Ohh huh, weird they stopped? My favorite kind of chess
@lovetownsend Yep just FIDE not getting sponsors / sorting stuff out. Hence Magnus et als Freestyle championship next year, which they can't call a world championship as FIDE claims naming rights to the tournament they don't hold :)
Magnus should invite Hans for his tournament !!!
The boy standing behind the clock is fidgeting like he could be pee himself any second. I wouldn’t be able to play if I saw that in the corner of my eye 😩
The digital chess board displayed is updating far too slowly. Very off putting to watch😡
Who won?
The lag is so frustrating
DGT needs to be retied from making boards. They're using technology from 20 years ago. There's zero reason to not be able to track moves instantly.
It's tracks immediately
@@prateekc7804 Apparently we're watching different videos. I would like to view yours, because in mine the moves update 5 minutes later, or never at all
What's with the freaking delay????? The commentators are talking away about a position we can't see!!!!! What's the point?
"Magnus smells blood"-what are you? Magnus's nose?
AI should be doing the live virtual board updates
That kid looking at Carlsen with stars in the yes
"there is Magnus Carlsen, he is a human with jeans on...better on the bar"
I still cant figure it out who is winning....
Why would you watch MMA, when this checker board game is so vivaciously exciting 😂
“It feels like someone is winning now” okay??? Lmao
I don’t want to hear the eval bar and clock constantly. Just express gut reactions to moves in a time scramble and if you don’t know chess enough to be able to do that then saying nothing is better than talking just for the sake of it. I thought the guys did a fine job though.
Magnus new app Take Take Take is the best Levy of Chess exposure.
Why can’t we get a board that updates in real time? This is pathetic
“Some good moves!”
Winning move bishop c4?
You guys really need to sort your shit out with the tech. This is 2024, you should be able to update a chess board.
The board is delayed 3-5 business days.