This was great, thank you! I recently took out that book from the library and I’ve begun trying to replicate the plates. Still just at the beginning but I was glad to find this video. Charcoal tutorial would be great as I’ve only ever done graphite.
I'm glad you found the video helpful! Replicating those plates is a fantastic way to improve your skills. 👏😊 Keep practicing. ✍️ And I’ll definitely do a charcoal tutorial soon!
it's amazing to watch how a modern high-tech civilization is busy with these clumsy and primitive devices for transferring a drawing (coloring forms - and this is exactly coloring, no matter how you look at it)))... while medieval masters would have taken a pantograph and simply transferred the drawing to the scale they needed using a scale compass))) well, yes, modern lovers of pseudo-archaic technologies are trying to make something that they then proudly call "works of art"
@@martindang7333 my comment raises the question of the meaning of this activity as such. - why do we need to draw? and if we learn using primitive methods, then the final product will be primitive (in concept), even if a person learns to draw like a camera or artificial intelligence. but why??!)). I have not yet met a single artist who would teach imagination. probably they just do not understand what it is. what you teach with a stick and a rope (which chimpanzees very willingly use in the wild) is not teaching imagination - it is teaching visual memory or representation - that is, how to imagine a familiar and observable object from a different angle.. - this is engineering and technical drawing, this is what builders and architects are taught (and after that they still can't draw))
Your perspective on the role of drawing is really worth considering, but a lot of contemporary artists would definitely disagree. Nowadays, many artists can create stunning works on an iPad, but they can't even draw a proportionally correct figure with a pencil. I know this because I’m a teacher, and I teach exactly those kinds of students. While traditional methods may seem primitive, they serve as a foundation for understanding form and structure, which can then enhance creativity and imagination in art. And let me go back to your first question: why do we need to draw? Well, because we want to. Simple as that. I also teach drawing from imagination, and I'll definitely create lessons on constructive drawing for this. However, starting with the basics is a fundamental principle of teaching in every aspect of education, not just drawing. Thank you for your opinion, and have a nice day!
@@petermahoney89 Thank you for the detailed answer. I know your point of view, since I am professionally connected with this (and you are not alone). However, I am interested in the philosophical position on this question - why and for what reason??!! As for digital drawing - can we consider the achievements of Formula 1 racers unconvincing if they do not know how to handle a horse?)) In past eras, drawing was a truly significant tool, since it had a direct meaning and without it it was impossible to do what was required. Today, drawing has become a form of entertainment (hobby, art therapy, sports), but there is absolutely no meaning in it. And since there is no meaning, then the teaching practices should be different. And most importantly - aimed at something that remains outside the brackets ... Take, for example, the so-called hyperrealism. an artist only needs to create a grid in the right scale to translate a reference photo into a final product - just draw on the cells and that's it!.. you need to feel the volume and form where there are no other means to create an image... as well as visual memory and imagination (no one understands what the latter is at all - neither drawing teachers nor psychologists) it would be good if interested people joined the discussion to advance this issue
@@ronkempke6673 because of that feeling.. The feeling of creating something. You have to love it, and have passion. Why do we learn? If we have google and chatgpt. Why some people learn to play a musical instrument, when AI can generate any kind of music. Somebody goes to the gym for 10+ years and still looks almost the same, (if he is neat).. It's for that feeling of progress.
Thanks, good vídeo. What others methods exist?
This was great, thank you!
I recently took out that book from the library and I’ve begun trying to replicate the plates. Still just at the beginning but I was glad to find this video.
Charcoal tutorial would be great as I’ve only ever done graphite.
I'm glad you found the video helpful! Replicating those plates is a fantastic way to improve your skills. 👏😊 Keep practicing. ✍️ And I’ll definitely do a charcoal tutorial soon!
beautiful.
Is this what they teach in an Atelier?
it's amazing to watch how a modern high-tech civilization is busy with these clumsy and primitive devices for transferring a drawing (coloring forms - and this is exactly coloring, no matter how you look at it)))... while medieval masters would have taken a pantograph and simply transferred the drawing to the scale they needed using a scale compass))) well, yes, modern lovers of pseudo-archaic technologies are trying to make something that they then proudly call "works of art"
This isn’t about the result, but about learning the technique to eventually draw from life and imagination…
@@martindang7333 my comment raises the question of the meaning of this activity as such. - why do we need to draw? and if we learn using primitive methods, then the final product will be primitive (in concept), even if a person learns to draw like a camera or artificial intelligence. but why??!)). I have not yet met a single artist who would teach imagination. probably they just do not understand what it is. what you teach with a stick and a rope (which chimpanzees very willingly use in the wild) is not teaching imagination - it is teaching visual memory or representation - that is, how to imagine a familiar and observable object from a different angle.. - this is engineering and technical drawing, this is what builders and architects are taught (and after that they still can't draw))
Your perspective on the role of drawing is really worth considering, but a lot of contemporary artists would definitely disagree. Nowadays, many artists can create stunning works on an iPad, but they can't even draw a proportionally correct figure with a pencil. I know this because I’m a teacher, and I teach exactly those kinds of students. While traditional methods may seem primitive, they serve as a foundation for understanding form and structure, which can then enhance creativity and imagination in art. And let me go back to your first question: why do we need to draw? Well, because we want to. Simple as that. I also teach drawing from imagination, and I'll definitely create lessons on constructive drawing for this. However, starting with the basics is a fundamental principle of teaching in every aspect of education, not just drawing. Thank you for your opinion, and have a nice day!
@@petermahoney89 Thank you for the detailed answer. I know your point of view, since I am professionally connected with this (and you are not alone). However, I am interested in the philosophical position on this question - why and for what reason??!! As for digital drawing - can we consider the achievements of Formula 1 racers unconvincing if they do not know how to handle a horse?)) In past eras, drawing was a truly significant tool, since it had a direct meaning and without it it was impossible to do what was required. Today, drawing has become a form of entertainment (hobby, art therapy, sports), but there is absolutely no meaning in it. And since there is no meaning, then the teaching practices should be different. And most importantly - aimed at something that remains outside the brackets ... Take, for example, the so-called hyperrealism. an artist only needs to create a grid in the right scale to translate a reference photo into a final product - just draw on the cells and that's it!.. you need to feel the volume and form where there are no other means to create an image... as well as visual memory and imagination (no one understands what the latter is at all - neither drawing teachers nor psychologists)
it would be good if interested people joined the discussion to advance this issue
@@martindang7333 That's a lot of hot air.
All that work for an image that a camera could produce even more accurately. Why do people waste their time making hand-drawn copies?
@@ronkempke6673 because of that feeling.. The feeling of creating something. You have to love it, and have passion. Why do we learn? If we have google and chatgpt. Why some people learn to play a musical instrument, when AI can generate any kind of music. Somebody goes to the gym for 10+ years and still looks almost the same, (if he is neat).. It's for that feeling of progress.
Because as you age, you begin to realize its not so much the destination you have been seeking, but the journey
@@MrTnnr"the chase is better than the catch "