Does Cloud love Tifa? (Part 1) - The moment both open up to each other - Final Fantasy 7
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- This video compiles all the possible affection of Cloud towards Tifa from FF7: Original and FF7: Remake.
For Cloud's past story, link as below:
Part 1: • Video
Part 2: • Video
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Kid Cloud: “You’re really pretty.”
Kid Tifa: “Really? 🥰”
Kid Cloud: “But your friends suck.”
Kid Tifa: 😔
*13 Years Later*
Cloud: “You’re beautiful.”
Tifa: “Really? 😍”
*Cloud looks over at Barret & Avalanche*
Cloud: “But your new friends suck.”
Tifa: 😞
“As a young child, Cloud was rebellious and
isolated from those around his age, so he would try to convince himself
that he was special. As such, Tifa was important to him. A slight young love/childhood awakening of love is revealed in the mental world - FF7 25th AU.
Cloud and Tifa
Zack and Aerith
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
Well said Leila :D isn’t it?
Those are the canon couples of VII anyways. Nojima and Nomura planned so, so I don't care what anyone else says 😂🤘
THIS! CLOUDS AND AERITHS LOVE IS PLATONIC IN MY OPINION
it has always been like this. i dont know why people would like to smash their bestfriends girlfriend lmao
maybe , Cloud and Aerith so best XD
With this we can all agree that the reason Cloud wants to be stronger is to be acknowledged by Tifa. Tifa is the only reason for Cloud. Isn't that adorable
You’re joking right…?
Like it seems like you’re trying to lie to convince yourself lmfao
@@fearlesscheshirecat1411 Lowkey ever since he met Aerith, he wanted tobe strong for Aerith instead. These cloti stans lol.
@@Ken-sj1velol you're just contradicting yourself by saying the same thing! Simply Cloud is not doing well, thus he wants to be stronger for anyone! Don't go around criticizing others when you're mirroring the same claim.
An interesting change between the original and remake trilogy is that Cloud and Tifa have lot more of a history together in Remake.
In the original, the first time Cloud goes to Tifa’s house is when her mom died and then he went with her up Mt Nibel.
However, in the Remake continuity, Cloud and Tifa were inseparable and played with each other all day everyday up until the age of 7 when the 3 boys she was friends with (Emilio, Lester and Tyler) started bullying him because of how close he was with her which caused him to pull back from them all.
Tifa didn’t know this happened and thought Cloud just didn’t want to play with them and thought he liked being alone but, he actually did want to be involved but the other 3 boys were horrible to him that he wasn’t able to.
(Cloud never liked the other boys very much from the get go and was only friends with Tifa)
Cloud still liked Tifa however (not romantically at this point because he was 8, that came a few years later), but because she spent all her time with the 3 boys, he couldn’t spend any time with her and gave up.
This is where the stories reconverge,
VERY MILD SPOILERS FROM REBIRTH CHAPTER 9+11
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In the original timeline, Tifa is convinced that her mom is there and her friends standby idly while she goes up there, Cloud follows concerned for a neighbour. However, in the remake timeline, Tifa didn’t believe the stories about the other side of the mountain being the land of the dead but her friends convinced her it was true and to go, Cloud concerned for her follows in the same way.
Then another key difference was that in the original, Tifa says she never talks to Cloud or knows anything about him until the water tower promise while in the remake Tifa had a few that endeared him to her. For instance, remake cloud would always go and find Fluffy, Tifa’s cat whenever she went missing and sit at the water tower hoping she would wave at him (she never did because she thought he hated her). Before asking her to the water tower the same as the OG.
It’s interesting because the remake timeline definitely seems to be making them both a lot closer (if you know you know 😁) and the tweaked backstory to make them closer as children is being used to legitimise just how close they’ve gotten in remake, it gives them more depth and truly represents what it’s like for two childhood crushes to see each other again as adults.
I would put money on the remake trilogy creating a proper canon romance story because SQEX in final fantasy especially love to make romances for their characters, especially recently, (think Squall and Rinoa, Tidus and Yuna, Noctis and Lunafreya and Clive and Jill)
Man I wish there were more insightfull comments like this where someone spends the time to lay things out like this. I knew that the OG and Remake timeline had differences after playing the games and reading some snippets from the book. But it's nice to see it presented together and highlighted. It's also the exact same feeling I got with this especially after Rebirth.
In OG you get the feeling they kind of just did what they could with the PSX being what it is and this obviously still being an FF RPG at the time. So allot of details are just a bit weird if you translate them to modern day graphics and how games work. But as you said they seem to be really deliberately about these two and laying down the framework for part 3 and it's many moments they have together.
When I looked back at OG with this new contrasting experience in Remake/Rebirth I found it so jarring to see their Lifestream conversation tbh. And even the Highwind part to a degree. It felt less plausible and less impactfull, more like an afterthought. Which was fine back then but I think now they need to do allot more.
So yeah as you said there's all these details now that frame these two as two kids from a small village with a complicated history together. Having a distanced infatuation with one another. Obsessions even after being worlds apart. Only then to be reunited in a way that speaks to the imagination. It's much more compelling and important to the narrative.
As you said SE loves to do pairings but honestly I found all those you named rather lame. Clive and Jill likewise don't do anything to me. This is their one shot in a lifetime where they can get something off the ground that's actually well developed (not taking place in one 40 hour game or with dated story telling methods). And it certainly feels that way. They cranked the tension up massively so far so I hope they just double down in part 3.
@@mikev8746THIS!
They didn’t have to expand Tifa and Clouds story but they did. They literally added to it in a way that really drives in that Cloud and Tifa are going to eventually have their big moment. The Gongaga scene naturally reinforces that eventually, they’re are going to kiss and exchange feelings when his mind is cleared. It’s proper story telling IMO. And naturally the one that’s going to help him, save him and restore him is Tifa.
I’m anticipating Part 3 being quite the damn story. Rebirth opened up with them at odds but they gradually open up with one another and Tifa proclaims she’s not going to let him and his Soldier degradation get the best of him. All while he doesn’t even fully feel like himself. Now, he has mentally snapped. 😮💨😮💨 Tifa has her own mental obstacles. Losing another important person and someone she relied on with what she had going on internally. Now, I can only imagine the mental hurdles she’s going through. They both have quite a bit ahead of them. It’s what’s going to make the highwind scene that much more heartfelt if they do it right. I don’t even care about the “sex scene”. I more so want to see if their feelings match and from the looks of it, it will.
@@houstonscott4362 > The Gongaga scene naturally reinforces that eventually, they’re are going to kiss and exchange feelings when his mind is cleared. It’s proper story telling IMO.
Yep agreed I have the same feeling here. There's no way they would do this in Gongaga after a 'mini Lifestream' scene and then not go all the way when it actually happens. As you said this is how storytelling is done often. One moment rhymes with the next in the sequel etc. Its more a question HOW they will do it rather than if tbh. So its fun speculation until release in a couple years.
> Rebirth opened up with them at odds
Tbh I had entirely forgotten the time of Remake and so when I started playing Rebirth I reverted to my OG memories and told myself I would go for Aerith with my GS date and so I had to be extra 'nice' to her. But the moment this scene started and they had a 'fight' and the way especially Tifa acted and what she said until the moment she closes the door. I instantly knew what was going on 😂
Again maybe its my own experiences but generally when a girl acts this way it's a good sign not a bad one hahahaha. So the fact they started the game off that way put me in the mindset that Tifa was the canonical story going forward. And chapter to chapter, moment to moment that feeling was never turned down. I think the developers did a great job. Clearly they did that intentionally. Start them off at odds but also in a very emotionally charged scene that would never happen between two platonic people. Making the audience realize "Ohh.. okay I know what this is, but we're going to have to work for it". This builds the tension and yearning these characters feel.
> Now, I can only imagine the mental hurdles she’s going through. They both have quite a bit ahead of them.
Gonna have to get really low for the Lifestream scene to hit I figure.
> It’s what’s going to make the highwind scene that much more heartfelt if they do it right. I don’t even care about the “sex scene I more so want to see if their feelings match and from the looks of it, it will.”.
I mean I personally also am curious what happens between the Lifestream and Highwind scene. In OG it felt a bit weird that you have this big exposition dump and romantic realization from both characters pov's. And then it never goes anywhere until the Highwind suddenly. They have some really fun moments in Remake and Rebirth for them between these big moments so I hope they do the same in Part 3. Hell give me adult Tifa in that baby blue 'with a little green in it' dress and have Cloud react to it. They can make up some excuse that she wants to surprise him with a date since they never got to have one in Remake despite her arranging one. Stuff like that really. Just don't make the skip from Lifestream to Highwind so jarring.
They can build it up where they have a kiss during the Lifestream and afterward they revert back to their awkward unsure selves but with the knowledge there's something mutual there. Then they have some time to get to know one another more. And then you get the Highwind. And while the sex scene isn't everything it would be cherry on top. Especially since they gave one to Clive and Jill for christ sakes. No one cared about that. Their feelings matching I think is a lock so what could they do to make it more fun and also stronger character development? Something tells me they might do a HA/LA option like with Aerith in Rebirth. Because that was kind of inspired by the Highwind scene literally. Though in the case of Tifa I think they should just go full canon here. Even though it had two slightly varrying outcomes in OG.
The devs really seem to know their stuff and my expectations now for Part 3 are more a result of them teasing us stuff and setting stuff up than me having random expectations. So I'm sure it's going to be great when we see it one day.
I just recently watched Advent Children and there's a scene in the begining where Tifa asks Cloud in a voicemail, when is he coming home... So I got the impression that their definitely a couple but because of his search to cure Denzel and his own Geostigma, he left to protect them and also he felt like a failure in not being able to take care of his family. Sometimes you make foolish choices when your depressed. Also, Marlene asks at the church- 'Is this where Cloud lives now?' So it sounds like his leaving was pretty recent.
You know what? You're right.
AC isn't a hard movie to understand. But some ppl want to twist it around.
@@kaage8780 THIS! AC literally happened like 2 years later of FFVII, plus truth be told, if you actually look into it deeper, Cloud always loved Tifa...
Yeah she’s even seen wearing a ring on her finger
@@lightning02480 Definitely think they’re married
You forgot when they exit the life stream they hold each others hands.
They hold hands??
@@xrosesc when they are drifting upwards they get closer together till only their hands meet. I know its misshapen polygons but the animation is them coming together as they emerge clasping hands. When found on the beach Tifa was supposed to wake up as in the original but also perform CPR on Cloud, when he regained consciousness he was supposed to say "Tifa..." and he hugs her.
@@mrdarkstar3756 and they took that out whyyyy? :(
@@finestcustard5647 Becauce Square Enix is lame.
Yes, he does love her. Play the original and u will find out hints. That he does.
Cloud and Tifa are together in Advent Children. That's why they have matching outfits and have adopted those two kids. Cloud is just scared that he's not going to be able to save people again so he becomes distant.
Yupe 🙂☺️ well said Danny. 🤞👍
Yeah, they ADOPTED those kids, and slept in SEPARATE BEDS.
It's true they are a couple in the most literal sense, put square clearly did them dirty in the name of censorship.
Completely unacceptable and absolutely needs to be fixed if Advent children gets remade (which it should because it has very serious problems even beyond this)
@@nickmurkel2469 they didn't show us Cloud and Tifa's sleeping arrangements. There is a bed in Cloud's office but there is also his work phone and a spare tire. It's his multi-purpose room where he can sleep but it's clearly not his bedroom. To know for sure they would have to say what the arrangement is.
@@dannysheain7968 I mean it's not like they stated it explicitly, they can always write novels around it and stuff, but they shouldn't have to do that.
The movie itself should clearly show what's going on.
And they should also be having their own kids instead of adopting them. Barrett already adopted Marlene, supposedly the novelizations clarified that she's still his adoptive daughter during AC, but it didn't do the same with Denzel.
Yeah Denzel does not need to be there if his only purpose for existing is to help censor cloud and tifa's relationship.
As I said they did those two dirty for the sake of censorship, and it needs to be undone.
@@nickmurkel2469 yeah I also would've preferred to see Cloud and Tifa having a better relationship but at least we can infer it with the family photos and the storyline. It does also end with the four of them constantly talking about going home and continuing to be a family with a knowing smile from Tifa at the very end. It shows us that they are going to continue to be together.
Cloud's love interest is, really, it's Tifa. Tifa was who he wanted to impress since his childhood, and in a way left to join SOLDIER in order to do so.
Cloud just put a damn ring on her already
Because tiffa and cloud forever❤❤❤
Anyway, from Cloud's point of view you may argue he was in love with Aerith, but you have to remember that he's basically zack's ghost early in the adventure. Cloud is not truly in lovewith her, he took Zack's personality thus probably his tastes and interests too, including girls related tastes.
The reason why his persona is infatuated with Aerith, is because she fulfills his need to be a hero. Her calling him a bodyguard and all that stuff, made him feel acknwledged as a SOLDIER. People may think she was the first one he opened up with, but that's not true, because he never showed her his vulnerability like he does when he is with Tifa. They just empty flirt and most of the times is one sided from Aerith. With Tifa instead he an really let go and share his emotions. As Tifa said "words aren't the only things that tell people what you are thinking", no words, just actions and silence.
Great video, but i think they are together after og, they werent together only short time before AC movie(Clouds depression + geostigma) but during the film and specially in the end they will be together (At the end of a long struggle, Tifa gently welcomes back Cloud on his return home after settling things with himsel) and in Reminiscence of Final Fantasy VII it really seem that they are again happy family :) But i believe that Remake make it even better, because Tifa and Cloud deserve together the best happy ending :)
I just hope part 2 and beyond will show some conclusion :) After 23 years...
@waylon lewinzack and cloud 0.2
Advent Children Tifa is so great. I believe she loves Cloud, but she's pissed off at him for pushing the people in his life away, and she's too busy taking care of the kids to go running after him like she has before. Still, they get their happy ending.
So trueee. After ff7 remake, we all should know there will be lots more ff7 series coming, sony and square enix are inspire by marvels cinematic series.. continuity and story telling
@@DutchDread hahaha! nice one @DutchDread ! finger crossed!
@@DutchDread amen to that!
Cloud had a sh*tty life thats why, but he forgets about everything that happened and moves on, thats where he starts to get close to Tifa
What happens in the end ?
Yes, his reaction is real, he wants to hide it when Aerith asks about Tifa, but doesn’t answer when Tifa asks about Aerith.
Why an i watching so many Cloti videos😫😩😩 It's been going on forever since the remaka came out AAAAAGGHJGKHHHHHHHHHH
I fainly fowned a brother/sister how feel the same as me
Lol
Cloud lost his father too earlier so maybe that's make him a sad person. That's way he thought that Tifa's friends are inmature and stupids
To me that cloud and tifa moment is of the the most powerful moment i ever experienced as a kid.
So Cloud's character was actually truly complex, huh?
I haven't played FF7, didn't know anything about the lore, nor did I grow up with it, but even someone like me who was unfamiliar with the original FF7 knew that it was a big and popular thing when I was a kid. I knew about Cloud and Tifa and thought that they looked awesome. Whenever Final Fantasy was brought up, my initial thought was always "Oh, it's a game with that really cool looking blonde guy carrying a big sword (a.k.a Cloud)", and so I always assumed that his character was this all-badass OP hero who is always there to save the day.
Little did I know that his badassery and cool demeanor were "borrowed" from someone he looked up to, that he was some kind of an "impostor", that he was actually messed up in his head, and that he was the one who needed saving the most. I would still love it if Cloud was truly just all that cool and edgy, but the fact that his character actually has a lot more layers and depth, I could say I like him even better that way.
You have to remember while all of this is true. He still did a remarkable thing killing Sephiroth that way. Then start of FF7 he's going of unaware of what he really is (especially in Remake) and actually truly believes. Basically he ends up doing the whole fake it till you make it dance but while also not having any contradicting memories that would make it out like he's lying.
Then after the reveal and all what happens in the lifestream he gets his memories and self back. And sure that makes him out to be this rather underwhelming infantryman. But that's all prior to the FF7 events. Now he's vastly different and has allot of experience while also being built like a SOLDIER with top of the line experimental treatments.
In every metric he was a raw diamond before when he failed the test and became an infantryman but still showed combat aptitude and resilience, enough to down Sephiroth. And since he's become something else entirely. The reveal is less about him being lame and awkward and more about showing he like all of them has had a rocky past (more so than all of them tbh) but now he's grown and has overcome.
I also always liked to see it in this way. Zack wanted to be a hero but became a SOLDIER. We like to say he's a hero for what he did for Cloud and therefor everyone else. But really he didn't end up doing much hero stuff. Died to early and all. But being a hero was his dream. Meanwhile Cloud actually never says the words hero when he says he wants to be a SOLDIER, those are Tifa's words. She likes the idea of that. But in the end he fails the test and doesn't become a SOLDIER, atleast rank wise etc. But near the end of FF7 he's truly become the hero of that world. And definitely is at the climax. Wanted to be a SOLDIER, but became a hero instead.
It's a nice lesson where even if our hopes and dreams don't materialize exactly how we envisioned them. In the end fate somehow leads us to the thing we were supposed to be all along. Zack being a SOLDIER and rolemodel. And Cloud being a hero and savior. You also would never guess such a goofy dude like Zack would ever end up being a 1st class SOLDIER. Nor that a distant edgy asshole like Cloud would end up being the worlds hero. That's the nice part about all of this imo.
You wrong in AC Cloud left her only for two week. After ff7 Cloud and Tifa live together with marlene. Cloud and Tifa save Denzel and Cloud get sick.
yep, when Cloud finally realized he got sick by geostigma then he go away from home. distance himself alone. why? he afraid his geostigma spread to the others and make his family worried. also he doesnt want that happen to his beloved family (tifa, marlene, danzel). thats why he wants to fix himself with his geostigma and keep feeling guilty. thats our boy Cloud, keep depressed about the past in FF7 OG.
True, they are together and raising kids :)
"Words aren't the only thing that tell people what you're thinking' 🤔
Great Video
Let's not forget that Tifa actually ask Cloud out (When you have to choose what dress tifa should wear)
(I know she said that they where going to celebrate their Reunion but that couldn't be an excuse?...
Thanks :)
so Cloud wants to be SOLDIER to be strong so he can gain strength to Protect Tifa and gets the attention/notice from Tifa,
that's my Boy Cloud falls in love on my girl Tifa, CloTi FTW
I like to think they’re together in Advent Children. When she’s yelling at him she slams her hand against the bed and it shows her hand with a ring on her ring finger. Idk maybe cloud gave it to her :p
bruh it was literally a ring from avalanche. barret has one too
@@eli-xx6nk it's actually never been confirmed what Barret's ring is. He has worn many rings. He carries that in his middle finger (AC)
With deep deep deep digging, Cloud gave rings to Tifa, Barret, and Denzel. (Marlene is questionable.) The ring is to represent family and friendship. He gave it to Tifa first. Sadly not an engagement ring, but if you listen to Tifa airing his butt out, she wants them to be a family but Cloud keeps doing things on his own like a lone wolf. (hence why his outfit is wolf-related because Cloud is a lone wolf and plus Square Enix is obsessed with Norse Mythology apparently lol.)
I never thought that a simple tiktok edit will make me go crazy over cloti.
Now I want to know everything about final fantasy.
Am I late?
Nooe. Welcome to the party 😀
welcome to the rabbithole 😂😂
I compared the English text and Japanese in the game, in some places it is different. if you take the Japanese text, the meaning of some scenes changes, but one thing remains the same, Cloud and Tifa.
Tifa is closed as is Cloud. she does not try to get into his soul like Aerith, she is more restrained. She is used to relying only on herself, and is afraid to accept Cloud's help and feelings, because he may leave and she will be alone again.
The scene below Don Corneo's house, where Tifa asks about Aeris, in the Japanese version, Tifa's question is different. she asks how they met, and then asks What a trouble Cloud got , that he needed to be saved. she's more concerned that Cloud was in a difficult position and needed help, not what is between him and Aerith.
in the scene where she saves him on the roof at the last moment, in the Japanese version, she does not tell him that he has to be better to play the hero, she tells him even though he is a hero, but he is so inattentive, careless. she admits she sees him as a hero.
and else many things like that
Maybe u could make a video on this? Heheh anyway thanks for sharing ❤️
People should go read "On the way to a smile: Case of Tifa" carefully. In the book, Nojima described their relationship in a very very subtle way. (And please remember the line "Then go drink in your room" is not an accurate translation because there is no “your" in original JP version.) They became a family and raised children together. A family without blood. Nojima even made the next FF7 universe couple become another family without blood again in Turks, The kids are alright. Just like Cloud & Tifa.
What would be the correct translation of that line?? Been wondering.
@@narualsakamoto3227 There is no "your" in original Japanese version. She just said "Then drink in the room."
@@mattch0724 where its clearly shown they have twin beds.
@@Khittope If you're talking about the scene in AC. It's the child's room (Marine and Denzel), and you can clear see two cute drawings of their parents. ;)
And to be clear, I picked up that line is not because it can prove anything (it can't), it's because it would lead the readers to make false assertion.
@@mattch0724they wouldn't have put them in that room together had they had a room together, Obviously!! He has one in his office, she has one elsewhere.
And it most definitely could be their room, uhh are you not a parent? Parents (Tifa) probably hung that on their bedroom wall! Cuz parents do that!
I think due to ff7 remake it will create a alternative timeline cause the Sephiroth is from Advent Children timeline cause he knows what Cloud already does same thing with areith So both Sephiroth and Areith used the life stream to go back in time to their old bodies but Sephiroth is remaking the world to his own image that is why the game is called Final Fantasy 7 Remake
In Advent children cloud distancing himself because he though it was his aerith and zack died, also about the mako thing that infected him so...
I don't think Cloud may have romantic memories of Aerith from Zack. He has for sure memories that belong to Tifa but it's not that he remembers all of her life, just what fits his illusionary alter ego. He may have memories of Zack, but just what he needs to create his new persona. He "copied" his fighting style, his way of moving, self confidence and coolness. For example when he says "beautiful" to Tifa, I think it is so much a Zack thing. But Aerith is a complete stranger to him when they first meet
what? no... He doesn't act like Zack at all. He has his memories, but he acts like his ideal role model of SOLDIER (Sephiroth in his golden days). Nomura said, him talking to Aerith is "cool Cloud", him talking to Tifa is "real Cloud".
@@laurajanco2i as long as SE doesn't retcon this point Cloud has not Zack's memories. He copied from him his SOLDIER traits (that have nothing to do with his cheerfulness if that's what you meant)
@@zae1371 no, he sees himself in Zack, he doesn't know who he is because he sees things through him. It's like he projects himself in his body and sees everything that he sees, as long it is something they experienced together. A proof of this is the Nibelheim backstory.
The only thing he "copied" from Zack are some of his mannerisms, like the squats and some stances. The rest is his made up persona, his ideal image of a SOLDIER. He doesn't take anything else of Zack.
@@laurajanco2i if you like this interpretation ok, but there is plenty of Ultimanias saying otherwise, including the most recent ones.
@@zae1371 I need proof, give it to me and I will say "ok, you're right". Until then, my opinion still stands.
tifa is for cloud. but i like aerith personality jessie too
I agree with you.
Did no one read the FFVII: On The Way to a Smile?
read Episode: Tifa
You don't have to search for clues in Advent Children.
"even though they're not together 2 years later in advent children". You whut mate? They're explicitly stated to be together during the time of Advent children.
Is it stated in the book? I haven’t read it and idk where else they would have stated it
@@finestcustard5647
In the reunion files:
Inside, I felt one thing was for sure: Cloud and Tifa would be together. Everybody would be back home where they belonged.
- Nojima, pg. 70
15th anniversary interview:
For many years, Cloud and Tifa have been holding favor for one another. Facing the impending final battle with Sephiroth, they at last confirm together their feelings of desire for one another.
-pg. 23
Case of Tifa:
Cloud: “After this … I think I’ll be okay.”
Cloud was silent for a long time before he spoke again.
Cloud: “Because I have you this time.”
Tifa: “You’ve always had me.”
Cloud: “What I mean is kind of different,” Cloud answered with another smile.
10th anniversary ultimania:
The place where he awakens -
That is Cloud’s Promised Land
As he sleeps, Cloud hears two voices. The voices of two people very dear to him, who are no longer with him. Playfully and kindly, they give him a message: he doesn’t belong here yet.
When he awakes, there was his friends. There were the children, freed from their fatal illness. Tifa and Marlene, and Denzel asking for Cloud to heal his Geostigma - his family were waiting. Engulfed in celebration, he realises where he is meant to live. He realises that he was able to forgive himself.
And when he turns around - “she” is starting to leave. Together with the friend who had given Cloud his life. Cloud no longer has to suffer in loneliness … And so they too go back to where they belong.
Back to the current of life flowing around the planet
-. pg. 131 Story Playback (133 in revised version)
Aerith lends her power to the people suffering from Geostigma in Edge, and personally provides for Cloud’s recovery. Geostigma is cured. Cloud returns to Tifa and the children.
(concerning Cloud hearing a voice talking about Tifa)
Not to mention that basically every ultimania mentions that Cloud and Tifa reveal their mutual feelings for each other underneath the highwind.
The story is pretty straightforward about this, Clouds promised land, his land of supreme happiness, is with Tifa. They're really not subtle about this, as they've outright stated it. But it's also why they live at the "7th heaven", (which is the final/ultimate heaven in gnosticism, which FFVII is inspired by), and why her ultimate limit break is "final heaven".
Aeriths role is as a guide to the promised land, she helps Cloud in his journey, but she's not the destination.
So we can be sure that prior to AC, Tifa and Cloud confirmed their feelings for each other, we can be sure that Cloud was going to "be with Tifa" from now on. We can be sure that the developers assumed they'd be together. We can be sure he "returns" to them afterwards (he was only gone for a week while terminally sick mind you). We can be sure that being with them is his supreme happiness. And we can even be sure that his plan from the very start was to always stay with her since he offered someone a lifetimes supply of food at the 7th heaven as payment for his bike, implying that he was in a position to make that bargain, because he was going to be there his entire life.
AC is one of those painfully misunderstood movies where people who don't know what depression, ptsd, and survivors guilt are like can only think in terms of romance. But AC isn't about romance.
@@DutchDread When I was reading the CoT, I was confused about this 'lifetime voucher' that Cloud asked for Tifa. Thank you for explaining that
@@DutchDread Cloud has practically even himself admitted that Tifa is his girlfriend. It's in one official book.
Poor young Cloud, he just wanted to be included but Tifa never brought him in. So he had to grow up so alone.
No I don't think they ever end up as a couple. And no Cloud didn't get Zacks feelings for Aerith, just his soldier persona and mixed some of their memories up.
Blaming Tifa for him being an outcast is false. That was his choice. He didn’t care for the people she had around him.
I can tell that you used the Remake footage of the well scene by the way it was changed to the current script whereas the original I say "Come this Spring...I'm Leaving for midgar."
Came back from Rebirth….
ok! if they were not a couple why would she ask that?
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A fan of cloti. Cloti have a strong chemistry w/ each other since childhood and their outfit perfectly match with each other they two can withstand the fight and reach the top to become a real hero... Tifa's superman is cloud wish they have future together at the end of remake. He is always there to protect tifa and tifa as well, while aireth is the past renisance of sack and cloud also, uses the memory of his friends suck to seduce aireth. Aireth is for suck n no match with cloti...
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Honestly I don’t think they did the devils tango when they were at the mountain confessing, I think they just kissed or hugged or sum shit.
If this _does_ become a thing in the remake I really hope it doesn't become the main focus like a lot of games push on the audience and make all the wrong executions.
While I adore these two and wish to see more of them together myself I don't want it to be the only big thing that happens, it should be natural as they calculated events in the first part of the remake. That's what makes an outstanding game- nothings forced. The media industry have thing for putting unnecessary romance into shit that's not meant for it and not everyone is here to see people make-out specially with such a dark story like FF7. I hope they continue to do right.
I wonder how they make the scenes from Original, which not showed in Rebirth, in the last part.
14:19.....Ok. So here's the thing. If SE don't put this scene of FFVII Remake I'm going to LITERALLY kill every one in this room even to myself
Lol for sure it will come, dont worry :D
I AGREEEEEEE!
Please, don’t say the romance he might have towards Aerith is due to Zack’s memories ‘cause it’s not true. Zack’s emotion weren’t mixed with Cloud ‘cause all Cloud did was building a new persona over his memories of Zack + (From the OG) Tifa’s. Cloti Stan are attacked ‘cause of this wrong believe. Clerith stans think all Cloti believe Cloud absorbed Zack, but the truth is most of them are against this idea.
Let’s talk about our lord and saviour Sephiroth. Zack’s memories were illusions created by Jenova. If Cloud really absorbed Zack’s memories, he would have Zack’s behavior and would have recognized Aerith.
@@SuperHaoken but he really does not have Zack's behavior at all though. Cloud is more socially awkward and blunt towards people, but Zack was outgoing and cocky. I don't really think anybody knows that they're not alike at all
I do believe a man can love 2 girls at the same time. But in the end, a man chooses which one is worth it to be with
thats why its a love triangle, Tifa is in love with Cloud, and Cloud is in love with Aerith
@@marksullivan00 1- Who ever talked about love triangles 2- Who even told you it’s a Love triangle? 3- And if it is Who told you it’s like you say? Y’all can’t really stay without seeking flame? What does your comment have to do with my point? ( “ ó w ò) ?? Seriously.
I always thought at the end of the game when they spend the night together that confirmed it. I don’t know where their story goes after that tho so maybe they didn’t work out but I really don’t see how this isn’t just cannon lol
Will they remake the part when the two of them are talking? I wanna see that so bad.
Hopefully! We want to see too! 😽☺️
in that scene where he ignores tifa, was because she's with some other dudes.. probably?
Which scene?
@@300GamersStudio when they were kids in the flasback
Ohh, yeah, because he dislikes those other kids, he thinks that they are childish haha.
i think why tifa is a bit "jealous" in the sewer because he said " she's understand " remember this dude nearly Chopped johnny's head clearly he got no emphaty and feelings and He got " didn't give a sh*t " to anyone except to tifa ofc she ask him if Something is going on , how cloud can understand someone's feelings only in 1 day
The English translation in that scene was off. If you translate the Japanese version, what Tifa actually said was, "You sure we can trust her (Aerith)?" But the English translation I think wanted to show some LTD that's why it was changed to, "You sure there's nothing going on between the two of you?"
yeah they bang in the og
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Cloti cloti #cloti :))))) cloti + zerith 😃 best couple in ff history
Before, I too was convinced of cloud and Tifa but after much reflection I think the couple for me is cloud and aerith. Anyway nice video bro like so much.
9:20 i don't remember this from the remake is this a alternative cutscene
Yes, there is 3 different cutscene, one with aerith, one with barett and one with tifa.
@@300GamersStudio pretty sure i got the one with aerith
I think ff7 and ff7 remake are different universe or multiverse.
Nope its actully the main universe mabye
There’s so much delusion in this comment section….it’s cringe inducing….
bro chill, I see you everywhere. It's not that deep, everyone have their own theory and their own ship. You can hype your clerith in clerith videos. Leave cloti alonee
i don't mind cloti in a romantic way, but i feel they'd be more interesting as a romantic friendship/queer-platonic bond.
pls, don't attack me, that's just how i feel.
Ok