Honda GL1800 & GL1500 Tech Tip Switch Issue
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A trick I learned long ago when re-assembling plastic devices is to not just insert the screws and start tightening. If you do, you might accidentally cut new threads into the plastic and that's how you end up with stripped out holes After inserting the screws, slowly turn them backwards and as you do, you will hear and feel them 'click' into their original threads, then you can tighten them up and you are good to go.
Hi, Paul! This is funny because I just performed the exact same switch repair on both my hazard and fog-light switch before I found this video, and you are exactly right on these 2 important points (in case anyone is wondering, Paul is right):
1. Suggestion: physically remove that spring (the one that likes to go flying) with needle-nose pliers before disassembling the rest of the switch. This is to prevent that spring from being lost.
2. The copper leaf-spring on mine indeed was "flat" and the grease inside the mechanism was turning to a glue-like substance (the bike is 16 years old). So the next step of my "operation" was using a tiny screw driver to scoop out the old glue-like grease, and once clean and the little "pin" moving freely, then I lifted that leaf spring to make it stronger again.
3. The black switch indeed has to be re-assembled by snapping it in so that all 4 "dogs" snap into their places at the same time. You can also test the conductivity of the switch before re-assembling if you want to make sure it works (so you don't have to take it out again). It should provide a complete short between the left pair of wires, and another short on the right pair of wires.
Well done! Great tip! I'll search here before I dig into my next fix! (Shich is the blinker switch -- gummy and doesn't pop back to center sometimes.)
3:20 That spring looks like those found inside inexpensive writing pens!
10:05 What an annoying piece of engineering! Thanks for highlighting it!
You make me so happy Paul. Now I know that I am not the only one for whom things become airborne!!!! God bless!!!
You always amaze me, the ways you fix issues that come up.
Deoxit fixed my 03, I sprayed the heck out of it and all my switches work great now...
Thanks for the instructions on changing airfilter I did it and also installed an amp guage and chrome cover Also for the brake pad instructions I also did them you are a great help Thanks so much John Franklin
Your kindly welcome John. Happy to hear it helped you out. Ride safe.
That Dow grease is the best I've found. I broke down and disassembled my remote switches on the handlebars of my Gl1800 to clean and grease them. Pretty tedious, small work with the headlight on my head, but they all work now. Great video.
Paul, you didn't use enough dielectric grease...
As an Electronics Engineer (ret) with enough letters behind my name to make alphabet soup, there is no reason not to use the dielectric grease unless there is a reaction with the non-metallic structure of the switch. Most dielectric grease is PDMS based and relatively inert compared to petroleum greases. The only time you have to be concerned is when you use dielectric in areas of high energy arcing as components of the PDMS can convert to Silicon Carbide (SiC) or as you probably know it, Carborundum... which can hasten contact failure. So don't use it on your starter solenoid contacts and you'll be fine.
Brilliant as always! Replaced the entire panel with exact problem on my 2010 (thankfully under extended warranty bought six years ago). Amazing they don't sell the switches individually...just the 'fog switch'.
These two are funny and this video saved me serious money
Paul our hazards were sticking so i followed your lead after finding how to get at it. Maybe put a video of getting at the hazard. Anyway did the hazard and the fog light switches in under 40 minutes. Thank you very much for the help!!!
Thanks guys , just followed you video and my service manual ....worked perfectly .
Love your Gold Wing videos especially since our bike is the identical bike . Cheers
Thanks Lloyd . Happy it helped you out. Ride safe and merry Christmas to you and your family.
I read somewhere about a guy using a massager on a stuck switch. So I have a hand massager shaped like a computer mouse and held it to my stuck cruise control on/off switch and moved the switch back and forth many times with the massager. Got the switch free! That massager I think will now be part of my took kit.
Yup. Been thar and got da T shirt. Emergency flasher, driving light, and reverse switchs have all stuck. Lost a spring and found it, lost another and did not find it, but a clicker pen provided a substitute. Lots of folks poo-poo about WD-40, but it cleans out the too heavy Honda grease. I considered dielectric, but it is pretty thick too. I remembered another silicone grease I had in my fishing tackle box, Garcia Reel Lube. I used that and no more sticking switches and its been many years, 11 or 12 years. I wonder if Garcia Reel Lube is still sold?
I HVAC for 20 years used that grease all the time can't beat it great tip Paul also hi Kathy love your videos
Thanks Howard.
My 2004 has around 115 000 kms and I'm starting to have the same issues with fog lights , emergency flashers , and cruise on/off switches. I thought I could get away with just spraying a good electrical cleaner in there but it looks like I'll have to delve in a little deeper. Thanks for the post.
Paul and Kathy, thank you for your very informative video I was able to follow you to completion! Thank Y
2/28/2020 I just had this happen to my 2007 GoldWing THANK YOU for your video it saved me $$$$ i did it for $6
Very happy it helped you out. Ride safe friend.
Paul I want to thank you for the video, I was able to fix mine. My switch wouldn't stay on, on my flashers. Will I was at it I also cleaned the fog light switch. Thank you again.
Thank YOU for watching. Happy to hear it helped you out. Ride safe.
Thanks Paul I have a06 goldwing and the four way switch does not work ! Now with that info I think I will take it apart . Always like your videos and they are informative and interesting . Looks like you are feeling better. Say hi to Kathy. Thanks again Al
Thanks and Merry Christmas to you and your family as well . Over the Christmas holiday I am going to tackle the air filter :)
It’s not as bad as it looks. You’ll do it 👍
Paul you were thinking out of the box (or is it experience). The tech tip that I got from this video is the suggestion of placing your work inside a plastic bag when removing parts that have little springs inside. Or those dam E clips that always seem to fly off in a parabolic arc never to be seen again. Good tip, I will remember it.
Just got a 2005 wing last week. Foolish me I didn't operate all the switches but the dealer saw the cruise on/off was stuck on so hoping they will fix that. I saw this video you made on the hazard flasher switch so I think I'll try mine. Sure enough it stuck in the on position. Had to tear it all apart and reassemble; hazards now off. Too chicken to try it again.
Good piece of work Paul. Mother Honda sure thinks her parts are gold plated !
This is my job for today. I was replacing all my bulbs with LED and used the hazard switch to check that all the bulbs were working.....Bad idea! I remember someone saying to NEVER push the hazard switch! Now I know why. Thanks for the video! I haven't been to NFLD in years. My mother grew up in Gander Bay so I used to visit there every 2 years as a kid.
OK so I took the switch apart 3 or 4 times. I cleaned all the grease off the innards and applied dielectric grease (maybe too much) and it wouldn't work properly still. Took it apart again, cleaned off all the grease again, adjusted the spring pressure a little more and it worked fine. Took apart again to add grease (just a little this time) and it seemed to work. I put it all back together and now it usually works but sometimes requires a little persuasion. How is yours working now? Has it failed again?
Hi. That’s a pretty old video but I still have the bike and all the switches work perfectly other than the cruise switch I had to do the same thing with last year.
@@7863348 I have a new problem. I was repairing a charge port that was installed in my left side glove box. I accidentally touched the + and - wires together and now I have no power at my acc terminal. Is there a fuse for this terminal? The charge port never had an inline fuse installed. I would appreciate any information you have.
ps. I tried dielectric grease on my cereal. Gave it a nice zing! Haha.
@@sunsetoriginals7320 If there isn’t an inline fuse for that charge port then hopefully a fuse in the man fuse panel popped. Check all the fuses at that location.
@@7863348 thanks so much guys. I feel so stupid. For some reason I thought it didn’t have a fuse. I changed the fuse and it’s all fixed. I also picked up service and electrical manuals for the bike. That should help me out tremendously!
If a guy that has a garage setup like that says to use dialectic grease, guess what? I’m using dielectric grease.
Thank you for the lesson. The dielectric grease you use has another name which proves you should be using it. That other name is "antioxidation grease " .
You too are so awesome! Thank you for the amazing help and entertainment 😃
Thanks Craig.Happy to hear you enjoyed it and that it helped you out. Keep well.
@@7863348 Thank you. My wife and I love our bike. 1993 GL 1500
Well done.....we live in a time when no one fixes things any more...they just swap out parts....just like at the stealerships(dealerships)
Great job Paul dont you just love them dissolvable parts when they come flying out ! LOL but 300.00 i see a mod coming before giving that ! just me and i though you was going to show how to get the ring off the horse shoes my gramps had that and like to get the kids to try to get it ! i have it here some where still ! take care God bless ! Curt
I have the exact same switch bad on my 2002 Holding. I was so happy to find you. Thank you so much for your wonderful information. You explained it perfectly. How do the control panel and glove box come out. Thanks, Jim.
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Your kindly welcome. With over 800 RUclips videos I really don’t have the time to layout detailed instructions on how to remove parts from ones bike. You need to do what I always do. Buy a factory repair manual. It will pay for itself on the first repair.
Paul Kathy another good video learning new ways make me feel good wish I had the patients you have.
PaK
Two Rivers Wisconsin
Don’t use dielectric... just kidding. Great video thanks for the help!
Like your videos. Have you done one on Goldwing 1800 rear shock. I bought 2007 with 220,000 miles & need to replace the rear spring & or shock. Took it for the first trip to PA, round trip 1000 miles plus.
You came from patience. Paul Short of patience.
Love your videos but I love your shop more it's the stuff of my dreams howdy from Texas
Thanks for watching.
Great videos lovely bike you have there too best of luck from Ireland
Happy new year to you as well Thanks for saving me lots of money God bless
Your kindly welcome. Happy to hear it helped you out. Happy New Year to you and yours.
so basically what you’re saying is, take it apart and clean it and put it back together.. got it. I thought only BMW overcharged for parts..
that’s not the most ridiculous price I ever heard for a part. I had a Kawasaki KLR 650. I was in the process of upgrading a part with the nickname, Doohickey. It’s a spring for a chain tensioner on the counterbalancer ., I went to the dealer to buy a replacement gasket just in case,made of what looks like paper. this was around 2006, so pricing now is probably higher. But this gasket made of paper shaped like the state of Ohio outline about as big as your hand, The dealer wanted $58 for that gasket.. after I was done coughing after I heard that price, I told the dealer to keep the gasket, I will be very careful when I remove that little inspection cover not to tear the gasket.
Every time I see an out rages price for a part, I always ask myself, could I make one of these. The answer is no to the switch for the Honda four-way flasher, but yes to the Doohickey inspection cover on a Kawasaki KLR 650
my four-way flasher is stuck on my 2002 Gold Wing. I just bought the bike in October. I don’t know why I pushed the button, I do know that I will never push it again, ever.I’m glad it’s November right now, I have 4 months to fix it..
Awesome. Thanks for the video. Just fixed two switches.
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching. Ride safe.
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS,I HAVE A 2006 GL 1800 WITH 51000 MILES ON IT.I`M HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THE IGNITION SWITCH. BIKE WON`T TURN ON.I PUT THE KEY IN TURN KEY, LIGHTS UP FOR A SECOND THEN NOTHING NO LIGHTS WONT START.IT`S LIKE YOU NEVER TURNED THE KEY.I CHECKED FUSES,BATTERY, AND RELAY. GETTING READY TAKE BIKE APART TO CHECK KEY IGNITION SWITCH.ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
Ok did all that and flashers went off. Problem i have is now when i activate a turn signal hazard flashers come on. When i manually cancel they all go off. What did i do
Thank you Paul, another good video.
Randy
Hi Paul n Kathy, On your vid with the switch of date: 16-Aug. 2017, I`ve heard a lot of stories about the emerg. flasher, is that the one ?
If so, why even bother hooking it back up if its causing so many problems ?
Sounds like a money maker for Honda.
Thank you both, by the way Kathy, great job with filming.
Thanks Marco. Yes this video was for the flasher switch. I showed how to repair the problem so you wouldn’t have to purchase the complete assembly in the video. Once repaired you will get many years use our of it before it needs to be done again.
Why repair it at all you ask. Well it’s a safety item and anything related to safety should be keep in perfect working condition.
Thanks for watching.
I have a GL1800 that misses in a similar pattern on each of the 6 cylinders when watching it fire with a timing light. It began suddenly after passing a car on the highway. It still runs but has a miss that's equally distributed to all cylinders. Not sure if it's possibly the kill switch, ignition pulse generator, computer, to or what? Don't see it throwing a code.
Hey Paul thank you for your time, can you show us how to remove the Horn Cable, horn stop working fuse is ok, need to measure the current but no way to remove the cable Goldwing 1800 2011. Thanks in advance
" ... i'll use this on my cereal ..." LOVE IT !
😅😂🤣
Hi Paul I have a sound that sounds like a compressor or a pumping knocking sound coming from under the front cowl. Any idea what that could be
2 questions... 1 if you lose that spring could you use a spring out of a pen would have more pressure to release 2. Would powdered graphite work better the grease? Going to attempt this project in about a week
Can you put a reverse from a 1500 gold wing in a 1200 gold wing
Buenas tardes ,haber si me podeis ayudar ,tengo una GL1800 de 2008 y cuando pongo el contacto el display se enciende pero queda en blanco ,le he sustituido el display por uno nuevo ,si exito ,le he probado la centralita del navegador que va en la maleta de otra Gl 1800 y sin exito ,no se que mas puedo hacer.Gracias
From my reading up sticking switches on the goldwing seem to be a common problem. Seems to me someone could rejig the switch panel to simple toggle switches.
Hi Paul got a question for you as I seem to not find information on the led temperature light on a valkyire mine does not come on I'd expect it to show blue then green or something, if hot red the bike is a 97 I've had it 2 years all the wires seem to be there, what do you think,
Hi Paul the same thing happened to me, where do I get a new spring
Hello Paul, I hope you still reply to comments from this video. I think your video is good, however, there are some areas you are not clear on. At around 3:44 you said to substitute switches (fog for hazard) you have to take out one of these little dogs spring it under and put in the other cavity????? You lost me!! In the video you are not very clear about what "dogs" is, what cavity are you talking about? You never show a clear view of the inside of the switch. I've taken the switch (hazard ) apart multiple times, cleaned it and it still sticks.
Thanks you both for a great video.
Thank you for watching.
Not bad for an old guy, um hang on let me finish, um let me rephrase that a bright spark. ATB and hi Kathy.
Me too, I took mine apart... Fixed it... Replaced little spring...
Where did you get a spring from?
Paul i have a 1995 1500 gold wing . I’m having a problem with the air pump. If i jump out the power to pump it works.The fuse is good and relay. i’m stumped. Can you give me any information on what else to check? I like your video’s. Thank you any help would be appreciated. Bill Groel
that panel you are working on i have a question about the preload button, i fixed the hazard button with your help, but my air shocks are not working i had the model that had the light psi and voltage, i bought a new panel, and it has only a master plug with no plug going out for fog light and preadjust button, my old one had 3 connecters coming from the bike to it,im trying to convert it any suggestions
Good morning.
I have a 1999 honda valkyrie and just take the carburetor of to cleaning them up. I had to change the float needles. I after i put it back i get a crank no start unless i remove the air box then start.
Can you give me something helpful point?
There is a drain screw on the bottom of each carburetor. Loosen each one and see if an fuel comes out. If there’s no fuel you have a restriction or it’s possable your needle valves arethe wrong size. The other thing I’d have to check if it were in my shop is It sounds to me that the carburetors might not be clean enough and they are restricting the fuel. What you have is a a fuel problem. You just need to track it down. I would start by getting a factory service manual and that will be your best friend when you have issues. Good luck.
Good video paul en kathy 👍
Mestro tengo un problema. Goldwing 1800 2002..al apagar la llave de encendido. Queda acciondo el motor o burro de arranque y el tablero se vuelve loco.. no apaga la moto...si me ayuda mil gracias...
Would you take on the task of replacing a second gear on a 1989 Goldwing that's been sitting since 07
The last Wing I restored was 7 years ago. A 1980 GoldWing. The last time I worked for the public was 6 years ago. I’m into manufacturing now and loving it. The only time I’m in the service end of the shop is to do my own work.
Great money saving tip
Paul that switch broke because the Honda was jealous of the attention you where giving Yamaha.
I need replace bulb HANDLE SWITCH right
It is easy ?
Dear Paul and Kathy, question, my GL1800 2007, it has abs flashing issue. Sometimes it doesnt but mostly abs light is blinking. How can I solve this? Thanks
Try resetting the abs light by removing the abs fuse for a minute.
If that don’t work here are your options:
Purchase service manual and use it to find the issue or
Take it to your nearest Honda dealer for repair.
Paul & Kathy Short thanks a lot
I cleaned the abs sensor on the front tyre and now the problem is gone ;)
Greetings from Istanbul
lol....i spent over an hr in a Circle K parking lot in the middle of no where with my hazards stuck on on my 89 GL1500
Matt that didn’t sound like a lot of fun lol.
good afternoon Hey excuse me I want to know if you know why my motorcycle is still warming up I already checked everything and the temperature continues to rise
Hello and thanks for this videos.
I nust purchased '99 valkyrie that was sitting in a garage for over 6 month.
I only able to accelerate by pulling on the accelerator about a 1/4 range ay the time and wait to the speed ro build up.
If i try to remp up the speed thw bike motor sound like is not going anywhere.
Where sure i focused my investigation?
Time to remove and clean the carburetors. Install and synchronize them. Thanks for watching.
Great video thanks.
Have you ever run across on the Wing my left side saddlebag open icon want stop flashing and door is shut good
Switch on the latch.
Is that the turn signal cancel unit? If so how did you get to it
The turn signal unit is in the steering head and not in this switch.
Kool video paul
Hey paul my hazzard lights stay on, their not blinking just on. Can you help me
You need to purchase a shop repair manual. It will pay for itself on the first repair.
@@7863348 thank you, and i will watch out for them road demons. Lol
My hazard lights only work if I keep the button held down! 1 time in 50 will they stay on, and when they do stay on they always turn off when pressed! ISSUE Staying on when pressed. What do you all think?
It’s the switch. It needs to be cleaned and use dielectric grease to lib and it should work well then.
I have a 01 without heated a seat. How difficult is it to add it?
Well what’s difficult for some is not for others so it’s a loaded question. It is doable and It not that difficult . You’ll need to buy and heating element. They are less than $100. Remove the seat and it’s cover and put the element inside then wire it in with a switch and you now will have a comfy seat.
@@7863348 hey I appreciate it and will have to look into it. Ty and love the videos!
@@7863348 hey I appreciate it and will have to look into it. Ty and love the videos!
Bon day my name is Alessandro and l am writing to you from Bergamo Italy l am an auto mechanic with the passion of Goldwing. l follow his videos and then l thought of asking for his advice. My nev Goldwing the first gear makes noise when it engages more cold the dealer told me that it is so true ? l now have 45,00Km .Can you give me some advice, maybe another type of oil ? maybe which one? waiting for your reply l offer you my best regards thanks Alessandro .(Sorry for writing but l m using google translator as ldon t konw english thanks
Ciao, Alessandro. Vorrei consigliare prima la cosa più semplice e che sarebbe quello di mettere un olio di buona qualità nella bici. La mia bici aveva un problema di cambio quando era nuova e ho usato l'olio di Motul e ha risolto il problema. utilizzare anche un nuovo filtro dell'olio. Spero che questo possa essere d'aiuto. Tenere bene. Saluti. Paolowww.sportbiketrackgear.com/motul-300v-10w40-synthetic-ester-motorcycle-oil/
@@7863348 Thanks l have Always used castrol 10w40 that my dealker put now l will change it and follow his advice with the oil that l recommended thanks and greetings
What light switch did you use to get a spring?
Raising hand.......I have a question? Why shouldn't you be using that grease, seems just by the name of it it would be ok to use.
It tends to harden up causing the switch to stuck as in this case.
Ok, thanks!
Paul i dont know why they give you a hard time my dad used dielectric grease all the time on electrical connections on CB and working on car and trucks even tractors ! he never had a switch go bad from the grease ! Curt
In the past when I have mentioned it I got hate mail. RUclips can be a very unfriendly place my friend.
Yes i know Paul some just cant take good advice or helpful info now days ! take care ! Curt
Paul, are those switches supposed to be lighted?
I believe they are lighted switches yes.
i noticed you did not take your baker wings off ? to remove switch is that correct?
Correct.
Paul, I attempted to repair the flasher button, now it will not lock into the on position. It just goes up and down.
Second, my turn signals bulbs turn bulbs turn off when i cancell the turn signal. any suggestions on why?
I think you might need to clean it more and try spraying some fluid film or WD-40 in afterwards. This might help.
Paul & Kathy Short the switch goes in and out but will not lock in the on position Thanks for your help and I did find my spring
Yup. I’ve seen that happen as well and old grease can cause it. Clean it up really good and regrease. Your lucky to have found that spring lol. Ride safe.
Fuel gage doesn't
So counting the dislikes 15 Honda dealers watched this video. Lol
Being a tinkerer rather than a certified Honda mechanic I have always disassembled switches and rebuilt them. Been doing so since my first 350 four in highschool it all started because I had a part time job and replacement parts cut deep into my riding budget.
😅🤣 yup they were the ones who left the thumbs down
i would like to replace every stinking one of those micky mouse switches with some good ole toggle switches.
Now Kathy gets a $300.00 pair of boots.
thank you for sharing
cool
What is that horseshoe chain thing on the bench?
That's actually one of those trick things where you have to figure out how to get the ring off the horseshoes.
Paul & Kathy Short Twist and fold
She needs to listen to you and zoom in closer.
It’s not a problem anymore. We don’t do Goldwing videos
ring and the shoes... Yea i got it.....he heee
Hehe
Fuel gage doesn't work
goofy !