In scripture The early Christians we’re warned against someone preaching a different Jesus other than what they received,2000 years later here comes Charles Russell (the founder of the watchtower)preaching a different Jesus.
@@AmbassadorEarl the watchtower preaches a different Jesus ,like Paul warned about. The faith was once for all delivered unto the the saints . Jude 1:3
@@Scott48-m7e You sure? You very positive? Because I have the Greek interlinear… are you a JW because I’m going ask you to pull out your app and look at your kingdom interlinear.
@@AstariahJW Jw don’t believe in spirits souls or ghost wow and yes one thing Matthew 7:15 5 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves Charles T Russel is one of the biggest
@@prlopez6134 we dont believe in immortality of the soul cause bible doesnt teach it. We do believe there are spirit creatures in heaven. We also believe that earth was created for us to live on and heaven isn't for us and Jehovah only selects a few to rule with jesus christ. 144000 . They will rule over a new cleansed earth where righteousness dwells
It was not only poor research it was very misleading and misrepresents the Greek itself. It is obvious this man knows little and what he does he does not understand. He couldn't even understand the footnote for John 8.58.
To anyone thinking you can just jump right into a theological or linguistic debate with the Jehovah's Witnesses that show up at your door, _don't do it._ Unless you have a solid grasp of things like the Trinity, the hypostatic union, and prophecies, the average Witness can talk you into a theological error within sixty seconds.
@@nametheunknown_ whoops, ignore that...wrong video. Well, one he made concerned John 8.58 where he thinks the NWT's footnote gives a Greek tense. It dosen't.
@nametheunknown_ That he, in the video, mistook the grammar of the footnote in thinking it referred to the Greek tense of ego eimi when it *clearly* refers to the English rendering "I have been"?
It is just as a Christian, the theology and the interpretations is very important. In my own personal perspectives, it’s be easy to befriend them, and as a person you love them. But in a personal man and woman relationship if one of us is Christian, then it’s be very hard to fall in love with someone’s beliefs that you don’t share their beliefs. I would have to try to pull them to what I believe and have them converted if God our Jesus would allow it. I am Premillennial dispensation position. I try to tell people upfront my beliefs systems so as not to deceive them or anyone.
A list of verses that the NWT gets WRONG. ( I will try to limit my bias as much as possible.) O.T.: Gen. 3:1, Deut. 6:4 ( syntax), 1 Sam. 17:45, Ps. 2:12, Ps. 145:9, Isaiah 53:3, Is. 60:1, and others. N.T.: Matt. 1:2, Matt. 19:30, Mark 15:13, Luke 16:29, John 1:1, John 5:10, John 8:58, John 11:35, Acts 11:1, Acts 16:37, Rom. 10:4, 2 Tim. 3:16, 1 John 2:2, Rev. 6:8, Rev. 9:5, and others. I read somewhere that the man who made the NWT Old Testament "translation" ADMITTED in court that he could not read or translation Hebrew.
The term "jehovah" & "yahweh", doesn't exsist in the Torah, in the Sepuagiint, in the Samaritan Pentateuch, nor the writings of Flavius Josephus. How about asking the mixed up jws, what they witnessed and explain the term they use so much. Have them further explain, why they believe humans more than the LORD (YHWH)? Faith in TRUTH & SPIRIT! God Bless!
Do you have any info on James Tomanek? JWs will point to his translation that was done in 1958, but I cannot find any info on this person. I can’t find where his scholarly learning came from, if he was a scholar in Greek language, if he based his translation on a previous translation, if he was a Jehovah witness himself, or really anything. It’s even hard to find a copy of his translation online. I did find verses that were said to be his translation online, but not the entire translation. All of the other translations they point to either don’t say what they claim, they use them out of context, or they are translations done by Jehovah witnesses and they are just using circular reasoning. It seems like James Tomanek was a Jehovah witness based on the verses I seen posted of what his translation supposedly says, but I don’t want to say so without knowing for sure. His translation came after theirs so it’s not a huge issue, since they couldn’t have based their translation on a translation that came later but the reverse can be true. When I talk to jws about John 1:1 they like to claim that their translation isn’t the only one that translates it a way similar to theirs. I can go through and show them why they are wrong about that claim with every translation except the Tomanek because I really can’t find anything about this person. I can take them through the Greek and explain why they are wrong also. I’d just like more info on this Tomanek person, he’s like a missing piece in a giant puzzle that I’m nearly finished with. I just think the more info I have the better vessel I can be for GOD. I’d appreciate any info you or anyone has on him, or anywhere I can be pointed to get the info myself. GOD bless you all in the mighty name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
@@RiskeFactor I’m sorry I was asking for information on James Tomanek. Did you have any information on him or is this just a terrible appeal to authority? I will answer your question though, I was taught all things by the Holy Spirit and I refer you to John 14:26. In addition to the question I asked you I’d also like to know if you ask the Jehovah Witness translators of the NWT where did they study their Greek? Do you even know who translated the NWT? Since Johannes Greber did his translations based off spirit mediums and not the Holy Spirit nor the actual Greek language, why did the JWs use his translation and still use it? Why can’t anyone know who currently translates the NWT for the JWs? Here’s some easy Holy Scriptures for you to pray about.. John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my GOD. Jesus didn’t rebuke Thomas for calling Him his GOD. This alone destroys everything JWs believe. Tell the NWT translators if you ever find out who they are that they need to update this verse too to say My lord and a god to fit with their wrong beliefs. Isaiah 45:5 I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: There is no other god beside the Lord GOD, none else, not “a god”, none. 1 Peter 3:22 - Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of GOD; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him. Jesus is on the right hand of GOD. If Jesus is just a god as JWs falsely claim, then He could not be beside GOD because there is NONE else. Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. This verse is clearly talking about the Son on His throne who is Jesus Christ and this verse clearly calls Him GOD. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty GOD, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Here the verse is talking about the Messiah, the verse calls Him GOD and the everlasting Father. Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Revelation 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; In Isaiah 44:6 GOD is saying YHWH is the first and the last, beside Him there is no GOD. In Rev 2:8 Jesus calls Himself the first and the last, explains he died, and is alive. Either you have two firsts and lasts, or you must admit Jesus is calling Himself GOD. If you say Rev 2:8 is about Jehovah you must show a verse where Jehovah died. I can keep going showing many many verses that Jesus is the visible image of the invisible GOD, GOD made flesh. Even up until 1954 JWs worshipped Jesus as GOD, in 1954 they declared it was idolatry. JWs have many huge problems they that flee from. If the Holy Bible was corrupt and nobody knew the Truth until the NWT in 1950 (or 1907 if you go by Berean), then for nearly 2,000 years nobody got saved according to their logic. It also goes against 2 Tim 3:16 and Matt 24:35. If people were saved and the original scrolls and translations of the originals are correct, then why are they changing what was already correct? If they say the originals were correct but in late 1500s they got translated wrong, then they still believe that for hundreds of years nobody got saved since those people didn’t have access to the original manuscripts and a correct translation until at least 1950, and even still were committing idolatry until 1954. Or do JWs now believe that idolaters get into Heaven? Even all the Jws from their start in 1872 until 1954 would be considered idolaters by their logic now. Now I didn’t go through John 1:1 and the Greek itself because this entire video is about that, and I notice you didn’t reply to the creator of the video and ask them anything about the Greek. So I very much doubt you are honestly trying to learn anything about the Greek. It just seems like a terrible appeal to authority fallacy to me. If you want to go through the Greek, Johannes Greber’s translation, this video and the points made in here about the Greek, the current unknown NWT translators, the first few known JW translators, other translations that JWs wrongfully use, and any of the many many verses and problems the JWs have, I’d be glad to talk about them with you. Like I said in my original comment, I just don’t have much info on James Tomanek. If you actually have any information on him though it would be greatly appreciated if this wasn’t a logical fallacy and you could actually provide me with it?
@@bhaveaniceday5392 you said “I can take them through the Greek and explain why they are wrong.” I simply asked where did you study Greek? 🤦🏻 I don’t have information on Tomanek, other than he lived in Idaho and passed away in the early 1970s.
@@RiskeFactor and I answered u. I was taught by the Holy Spirit John 14:26. Where did I learn? On earth throughout my years. What is the point of your question? A fact is a fact regardless of where the fact was learned.
Why does EVERY ? OH REALLY EVERY BIBLE! Bible say that Jesus is God in Hebrews 1:8 when the New World Translation is the only Bible that says Jesus is a throne? Not every Bible translation says Jesus is God in Hebrews 1:8. Quite a few do NOT say that. (Several are cited below). What Bible translation says Jesus *IS* a throne? NONE that I’m aware of. ALL translations do say however, that God - Jesus’ God - anointed Jesus (to sit on Gods throne - Hebrews 1:9). Hebrews 1:8 - a quote from Psalm 45:6 - are among the most famously debated verses (on grammatical grounds) in the Bible. Hebrews 1:8 Literally: …the-throne-of-you-the-God-into-the-age-of-the-age Psalm 45:6 Literally: …your-throne-God-forever-and-ever Is the correct translation: “Your throne, O God”, or “Your throne is God”, or “God is your throne”? The Context of Psalm 45:6. Who is being addressed? - The newly anointed King Solomon. What is the message the Psalmist is conveying to King Solomon? - That God is the real power or source of Solomon’s Kingdom. ELOHIM (GOD) IN PSALM 45:6 (addresses God - or the King?) Elohim (God) as Vocative (Applied to the King) “Your throne, O God” Elohim (God) as Predicate (Applied to God) “Your throne is God” Elohim (God) as Subject (Applied to God) “God is your throne” If you believe that the Psalmist is addressing King Solomon as the Almighty God then you would choose Vocative - “Your throne, O God”. On the other hand, if you believe the Psalmist is saying to the newly anointed King, Solomon, that “God, your God who anointed you” (Psalm 45:7) is the author or source of Solomon’s throne, then you would render Elohim (God) as the subject: “God is your throne” because it is “God, your God who anointed you” to sit on Gods throne as the King of Gods Kingdom. Many translators approve of the latter two choices over the Vocative; here are some examples: “Your throne is God forever and ever. A scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.” Revised English Version “Your throne, God, is forever and ever; The scepter of Your kingdom is a scepter of justice.” New American Standard Bible “Your throne, God, is forever and ever; the scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of justice.” Christian Standard Bible “Your throne, God, is forever and ever; the scepter of Your kingdom is a scepter of justice.” Holman Christian Standard Bible “The kingdom that God has given you will last forever and ever. You rule over your people with justice;” Good News Translation “Your throne, God, exists forever and ever, and the scepter of your kingdom is a righteous scepter.” International Standard Version “God is your throne forever and ever”. NWT “Thy throne given of God is for ever and ever; A sceptre of equity is the sceptre of thy kingdom”. JPS Tanakh 1917 CONCLUSION: The last cited source - the Jewish JPS captures the context of Psalm 46:6 very well “Thy throne given of God is for ever and ever”. Hebrews 1:8,9 and Psalm 45:6,7 are saying that Jesus throne (kingdom) was given to him by God (Psalm 110:1 - Hebrews 1:3); the God who is also Jesus’ God and Father. The context of Hebrews 1 as expressed in Hebrews 1:3 (from Psalm 110:1) is that Jesus Kingly authority was GIVEN to him by his father - “sit at my right hand until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet”. - It is therefore GOD, Jesus God - who is the author of his throne - “God is your throne” - God is the source “of the kingdom God has given you”. The case of the highly regarded Updated American Standard Version by Christian Publishing House illustrates why people are still confused about Hebrews 1:8. The following is their rendition: Psalm 45:6 (UASV): “God is your throne* forever and ever.” *Footnote: “See 1 Chronicles 29:23, where it reads, “Then Solomon sat on the throne of Jehovah as king instead of David his father.” The rendering “Your throne, O God” would hardly make sense being addressed to the king. Further, see the footnote at Hebrews 1:8, which quotes from Psalm 45:6.” Hebrews 1:8 (UASV): “But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God* is forever and ever,” *Footnote: “Or, based on grammar, context, and Psalm 45:6-7, an alternative reading could be, God is your throne”.
His information is 99% misinformation. See how he mistakes the language for tense described in the footnote for John 8.58! Beware of who you listen to for information. See Proverbs 14.15 and 18.17.
They have the free version of nwt 84 and 2013 on the play store ... I use the 1984 still .. only when comparing it to the 1966 Doubleday Jerusalem Bible
john chapter six shows that Jesus was created . revelation chapter five destroys the trinity 2cor 13:8 so therefore if you cannot refute the watchtower witnesses you do not have the truth matthew 22:46
The reason why the members of the other churches don't obey Jesus command at Acts 1 verse 8 ( just before he ascended to Heaven) YOU MUST BE WITNESSES OF ME IN JERUSALEM AND IN ALL JUDEA AND SAMARIA AND TO THE UTMOST PART OF THE EARTH, is because the churches don't have GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT. That's why they can't go witnessing. BROTHERMAN, JEHOVAH WITNESSES are the only religious organizations fulfilling MATTHEW 24 v 14, NO OTHER RELIGION EVEN COME CLOSE TO ACQUIRING THE ABILITY TO FULFILL MATTHEW 24 v 14. There are Chinese people living near you, some of them speak Mandarin and others speak Cantonese, Jehovahs witnesses speak to them all in their native tongue, DO YOU, or rather CAN YOU? As we speak, Jehovah Witnesses are paddling a canoe 100 miles up the Amazon River,and hiking up the Andes mountain talking to all those remote villages in their native tongue, DO YOU, or rather CAN YOU? If you have GOD'S WORD, and JEHOVAHS WITNESSES don't have it, how will the people of Uzbekistan ever get to hear the word? Jehovahs witnesses have hundreds of congregations in Kragikstan, going out SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, Uzbekistan, Crimea, Zanzibar Peru Norway, Germany France, Italy, Jamaica Guatemala Australia Equador Indonesia Belgium Turkey Japan, Korea, Taiwan China, Canada, BERMUDA, BARBADOS, SENEGAL, Somalia,,,Haiti, United States, Baltimore, Miami Faulklands, Panama Argentina, Brazil, Cuba, SURINAME, Venezuela, Columbia Spain. PORTUGAL, NEW ZEALAND south Africa, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, every where, you go. JEHOVAH WITNESSES are on the airport, street corners, train stations, farmers markets, shopping malls, while others go door to door. SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. IF GOD'S NAME IS NOT JEHOVAH, howcome, the King James version Bible that I have in my hand right now, says at Psalms 83 v 18, THAT MEN MAY KNOW THAT YOU ALONE WHOSE NAME IS JEHOVAH ARE THE MOST HIGH OVER ALL THE EARTH.? Howcome it don't say YHAWAY? IF THERE WAS NO " J " IN HEBREW, HOW DID THE JEWS GET THEIR NAME? HOW DID THE ANCIENT RIVER JORDAN, GET ITS NAME? JOHN, JAMES, JOSEPH, JOB, JERICHO????? AND HOW COME THE KHORAN SAYS THAT A MAN named Jesus DID EXIST AND HIS NAME IS JESUS? ALSO THE TORA?Where did they get the "J " From? IF JESUS DIED ON A CROSS, WHY THEN DONT THE KING JAMES BIBLE SAY THAT? Please read, Acts 5 v 30, read, Acts 10 v 39, Galations3 v 13, Deuteronomy 21 v 21 to 23? JESUS DIED ON A TREE. IF JESUS IS GOD, THEN MARK 10 verse 18 wouldn't make any sense? Jesus Christ said, WHY DO YOU CALL ME ( me) GOOD, NOBODY GOOD BUT ONE, THAT IS GOD. Does that sound to you like Jesus is God? IF JESUS IS GOD, HOWCOME GOD HAVE TO GIVE HIM EVERYTHING? JOHN 5 v 26 says, " THE FATHER HAS LIFE IN HIMSELF, SO HE HAS ( GRANTED) THE SON TO HAVE LIFE IN HIMSELF. SO WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE JESUS WAS ( GRANTED) TO HAVE LIFE IN HIMSELF? IF SOMEONE GRANT YOU SOMETHING, OBVIOUSLY YOU DID NOT HAVE IT BEFORE IT WAS GRANTED TO YOU? IF JESUS IS GOD, PLEASE EXPLAIN 1 CORINTHIANS 15,v 24 to 28 to the people you are misleading? Throughout the entire NEW TESTAMENT, JESUS never took credit for anything, he always gives the credit to his father. THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN I, (JOHN 14 v 28) I CAN DO NOTHING OF MY OWN SELF, ( JOHN 5 v 30) NO MAN KNOWETH THE TIME OR THE HOUR, NOT THE ANGELS, NOT THE SON, BUT THE FATHER ( MARK 13 v 32) EVEN when Jesus found the money changers in the temple, he told them, you are making my father's house into a den of thieves. The JESUS that JEHOVAH WITNESSES speak of, is the one mentioned at 1 JOHN 4 v 15, and 1 JOHN 5 v 5.
I'm not a JW, and never have been. But clearly this guy doesn't understand the basics of the Hebrew language and how it works (in regard to the no "J" in Hebrew. That is correct. However, 'When used in the International Phonetic Alphabet for the y sound, it may be called yod or jod.' (wikipedia). A Jewish man (Nehemia Gordon; he has videos on YT) that studies ancient manuscripts shows proof that God's name never has been Yahweh, as there is no Biblical documents with it; but also indeed shows where the name Yehovah was there. And Mr. Gordon who also studies the New Testament manuscripts found several NT books of the Bible written in Hebrew, with the name of God in them. Further more, the early Church historian, Eusebius, wrote, 'Matthew compiled the sayings [logia of Christ] in the Hebrew language, and each interpreted them as best he could.' (Eusebius, The Church History, pg. 114, Translation and commentary by Paul L. Maier).
You are so very educated and I sooo appreciate this! However...you miss the point which is Jesus is the Son of God, the Most High, seated at the Right Hand of the Father, and every knee SHALL bow before Him in Heaven, on earth , or below earth! He IS the only Mediator between The Most High and man! If you Don't believe me...Just wait until you DIE! The only reason you are here IS TO Chose!
@@davidrennie4033 "the Name"(HaShem) of "The Almighty"(El Shaddai) is "HOLY" ... .. man cannot utter it. the "Alpha & Omega" cannot be confined to such as people tend to think. to anyone interested in where the word "jehovah" came from .... look into a man named, " raymundus martini" circa 1270ad.... the reason that jws hold to 'jehovah' as being Gods name is because they try to claim as such for a sense of "exclusivity"..thats it!!! if they found out the 'Father" has a name other than jehovah ...the entire "publishing for PROFITS"(unlike prophecy) would collapse and jw org would be exposed for the wolves and charlatans they really are!
@@davidrennie4033the Watchtower publications opine that the divine name means "He Causes To Become". If that's true then it is in the Hiphil form and the nikkud (vowel points) are those found in Yahweh.
It is actually very easy to gainsay over the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization because they don't know that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh. Also, they don't understand that WE are not under the Mosaic laws of the Old Sinai Covenant. They don't understand that WE are under the New Covenant of grace through Christ and not of WORKS. All they do is teach WORKS WORKS WORKS!!! Salvation is given freely because Christ fulfilled it ALL.
I’m a Jehovahs Witness for 63 years now. I’ll gladly discuss biblical topics with you. You don’t like the NWT, then pick the translation of your choice.
I got out in 2002 and the thing is you are so brainwashed in the lies of the Watchtower the thing is if you really truly study the Bible you will find out that the Watchtower is wrong about a lot of things and one of them is 607 and the second coming of Christ was not in 1914 and when you keep on changing your ideas about the Bible that is not from God the Bible has always will be the same in the past the present and in the future but to the witnesses it's always changed and that's one thing I can never understand when I was in I got in and 1972 and got out in 2002 is not God's organization
I can discuss biblical topics with you. One question I have is: what does it mean to be “Bible based.” For example, you may say this teaching is based on the Bible. But does that mean it’s taught in the Bible? Catholics might teach that you shouldn’t use birth control and that’s Bible based. Mormons might teach that caffeine is bad and that’s Bible based. But don’t these bible based teaching go beyond the thing written in the bible? Paul said “do not go beyond the things written.” (1 cor 4:6) Shouldn’t we only teach things that are actually taught in the Bible? And if we do that, we would never have to change the teachings.
Gerardo, could you please give me some evidence that the faithful slave mentioned by Jesus in Matthew 24 is the Governing body and, why the Watchtower changed its understanding several times ( started with the 144,000 then Russell, then Jesus+144,000,then the 144,000 until today Governing body ).
One way to get a j.W. speechless is to say in deutaromy the farther is called lord of lords and in Timothy Jesus is called Lord of lords so are they up there now fighting on who is the true Lord, or ask them if Jesus were to knock on your door tonight and ask you am i a true God or a false God, what are you going to say? Because the Bible says there's only true God 😮😮😮😮
@@brucebarnard Do you know that until about 1952, JW worshiped Jesus? Then new light. So for 70 years they were doing what they would today call idolatry or false worship if someone else did it. Why did God wait 70 years to tell them not to do this if it’s so bad to worship Jesus?
@@d_e_a_n You err. The Greek word the NT authors used at times, PROSKYNEO, was used for what they did toward God but *also those who were not* and w.o. any form of 'idolatry' being performed. Compare John 4.24 with Revelation 3.9. So it matters not what word one uses, either the Greek or an English one, such as "worship" but what is in the heart and mind that is. The JWs have never 'worshipped' the Son as God just as no 1st century Christian did even though, as stated, the NT used *the same Greek word for God and others not God* . But a Greek word they did use, LATREU, does mean religious worship of one that is God and that word the NT authors never used for what was given the Son but only the Father. See John 4.24b and check a Greek-English lexicon. For only the Father is the "one God" for true Christians. See 1 Cor.8.6; Ephesians 4.6.
@@brucebarnard It seems like you don’t know your history. And I have many files on the word proskyneo. I know you would say that word doesn’t always mean worship. But that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m telling about JW, for 70 years, worshiping Jesus. The English word worship. It was in their charter until 1999. There are dozens of quotes about them worshipping Jesus. And it’s understandable. In Hebrews 1:6, it says in your green Bible (an older Bible) that all the angels “worshipped” him. And if the angles were worshipping him it’s reasonable for them to think they should. And did. For 70 years Jehovahs witnesses worshipped Jesus. I could find you all the quotes if you like. There’s like 15 or a couple dozen from watchtowers and books. They definitely worshiped Jesus and felt it was right for decades. And then new light. But this isn’t logical. That today would be called false worship or idolatry by Jw today if someone else did that. And they did this for 70 years. For half their existence I think.
God does not have a "Personal Name"! It's man who gives out names. Ask God (Source) and He'll (no pronound here) tell you: "I am". That's as close as you'll get to a name.
The discussions eith JWs must be what they are trained to talk about. If you ask questions outside of that training they will never have an answer. I've seen this first hand.
very artificial and fraudulent manipulation by the audience with fake argumentation. You see, I purposely used the same method - claiming without real examples. But this is what the speaker does all the time
This is the most lame discussion regarding the NWT I have ever viewed. I expected far more research to be presented here and expected the speaker to have been far more educated on the subject. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, we often say. The speaker says you don't really need to know Greek to present these arguments. But, therein lies the problem - he is clearly way in over his head and doesn't demonstrate an understanding of the Greek language, as it relates to translation work. Nor does he understand how the English form of the divine name developed throughout the years. He is very naive in believing his arguments will "destroy" the arguments for the NWT. He has underestimated the work Jehovah's Witnesses have done in their translation efforts. Regarding the divine name in the Greek Scriptures, the speaker appears to be of the belief that the sole reason for including the divine name in the Greek portion is due to "Old Testament support." That is not entirely true and he should have known better, as he had access to the 2013 edition of the NWT, which contains Appendix A5, outlining a number of reasons why the divine name has been restored in those exact 237 locations, including support in the Hebrew Scriptures. The speaker also appears confused regarding what he perceives as "inconsistencies" regarding when the divine name is used in the Greek Scriptures. Again, if he had examined the appendix (which I'm sure he did, but declined to present it), he would have noted that the ONLY places where the NWT Committee restored the divine name in the Greek Scriptures (“New Testament”) is where it determined that there is compelling evidence that the Tetragrammaton appeared in the original Greek manuscripts (before being removed by scribes in the 2nd and 3rd century). One piece of evidence for the divine name in the Greek Scriptures is the lack of the definite article occurring before Kyʹri·os. Greek has a definite article, but it doesn't always appear before Kyʹri·os, although it should be present for linguistic reasons. Due to this, translators today have had to insert the definite article "the" in the English where it is expected grammatically. Should this be happening?! NO. So, why are there areas in the Greek Scriptures that have Kyʹri·os without the definite article? Simple. Because the divine name used to be in that location, before being replaced with Kyʹri·os. There was no room to add the definite article "ho" in the Greek I never heard the argument that the NWT doesn't contain any bias. All Bibles contain bias. The question we should be asking ourselves is: Which Bible contains the least amount of bias and does the bias it does contain create conflicts with the Bible's overall message? Every scripture must be in harmony with all the others. And, I will say without hesitation that the NWT contains the least amount of bias of any mainstream translation. I say "mainstream" because those are the ones I have studied - the ones you can find on biblehub.com or biblegateway.com, for example. This is what we tell people: please do your research and don’t take anyone’s word for it - not opposers of JWs, not the Watchtower, nor JWs. Study it for yourself and don’t let people do the studying for you. Your very life depends on it!
I have studied it for itself and you made jesus a lower g god and your translation comes from a diffrent greek text than the textua reciptus or received text this is the error right here yall came after the revolutionary war and believe the modren scholars new greek which was made in the 1800s this is part of the new light but by its own motion would mean all Christian including the originap ones were wrong they used the recived text or textus receptus
I come from occultism they also make jesus a lower g god so do freemasons why do these lucifarian agree with yall on jesus being made a god and not jesus being God this opens the door for if jesus was made a god than God lied and therefore saten told the truth and i have had those type 9f comversation about other topics because 9f the niv the king james closes the case so you onow that jesus is God among us and God never lied why is because it comes from the textus reciptus
Seriously mate, I have read your comments. I don't think you watched this video. He covered the points you said he had missed. You stated " A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, we often say." You were commenting on the structure of the Koine Greek language. Question 1) please advise where you studied Koine Greek ? Question 2) Please provide evidence from Linguistic Scholars that the name "Jehovah" is not erroneous and was not invented by a Roman Catholic Monk in the Middle Ages Also you made this bewildering comment "And, I will say without hesitation that the NWT contains the least amount of bias of any mainstream translation." Question 3) What are your qualifications to make this statement ? What Doctorates do you have in the biblical studies, or is your "little knowledge " just an opinion based on how you feel ? Question 4) This is the most important question, who are the translators of the NWT and what are their qualifications ? I know the names of the Governing Body and all the GB helpers, All the Elders are listed etc in WT material, so if they are named in WT material and on public record, they are not trying to get the glory and adulation of men. So the names of the translators should also be readily available. WHO ARE THEY? I'll let you in on a little secret after you answer question 4 Question 5) Please provide 4 Scholars in the field of Ancient Middle Eastern Linguistics who can confirm your silly and conspiracy ridden claptrap about the Divine Name "before being removed by scribes in the 2nd and 3rd century" This is just nonsense. 5 thousand Greek manuscripts and not one has the Jehovah. Not one. I imagine YOU agree with the Watchtower that has stated many times the bible is: " “That it [The Finished Mystery] contains some mistakes is freely admitted. Even the Bible contains some.” WT 4/1/1920, p. 103 “Sometimes a member of a class will refuse to engage in the canvasing for the books because there are some mistakes in the books. . . . As everyone knows, there are mistakes in the Bible. . . .”WT 4/15/1928, p. 126” What a low view you have of the bible. Your organisation does too. Waiting for 5 answers to my 5 questions.
I have asked 5 questions and you can't even give a "lame"response. like nearly every other JW, when confronted by an educated Christian, you cannot even respond. I'll ask the questions again, hoping you might TRY and and at least TRY to attempt to answer my questions. Question 1) please advise where you studied Koine Greek ? Question 2) Please provide evidence from Linguistic Scholars that the name "Jehovah" is not erroneous and was not invented by a Roman Catholic Monk in the Middle Ages Also you made this bewildering comment "And, I will say without hesitation that the NWT contains the least amount of bias of any mainstream translation." Question 3) What are your qualifications to make this statement ? What Doctorates do you have in the biblical studies, or is your "little knowledge " just an opinion based on how you feel ? Question 4) This is the most important question, who are the translators of the NWT and what are their qualifications ? I know the names of the Governing Body and all the GB helpers, All the Elders are listed etc in WT material, so if they are named in WT material and on public record, they are not trying to get the glory and adulation of men. So the names of the translators should also be readily available. WHO ARE THEY? I'll let you in on a little secret after you answer question 4 Question 5) Please provide 4 Scholars in the field of Ancient Middle Eastern Linguistics who can confirm your silly and conspiracy ridden claptrap about the Divine Name "before being removed by scribes in the 2nd and 3rd century" This is just nonsense. 5 thousand Greek manuscripts and not one has the Jehovah. Not one. I imagine YOU agree with the Watchtower that has stated many times the bible is: " “That it [The Finished Mystery] contains some mistakes is freely admitted. Even the Bible contains some.” WT 4/1/1920, p. 103 “Sometimes a member of a class will refuse to engage in the canvasing for the books because there are some mistakes in the books. . . . As everyone knows, there are mistakes in the Bible. . . .”WT 4/15/1928, p. 126” What a low view you have of the bible. Your organisation does too. Waiting for 5 answers to my 5 questions.
@@jahtruthdefender First of all “Ye must be born again” John 3:7. Unless you’re saved you con not understand the scriptures. And then with a little learning about the “Elizabethan and archaic” language, if you truly want to know what the Word wrote in His word, he’ll show you. The plain answer is, The King James Bible is God’s pure, preserved word Psalm 12:6,7.
@@AmbassadorEarl I would have thought one would need to understand scripture before being borne again. God’s pure bible that has spurious text sorry but just wouldn’t be a true of God. Thanks for the reply anyway
@@jahtruthdefender Not being rude but that’s what you get for thinking. In the Bible , every time a man thinks, it does not turn out good. All you need to know before you get saved is that you are lost and going to a devil’s Hell if God doesn’t help you. From a sincere heart ask God for help and He will send it.
@@jahtruthdefender And what spurious texts are you talking about? And who showed them to you? It was the devil or one of his ministers of righteousness, corrupting God’s word.
I'm sorry, I have been very polite to them, that they have felt entitled to my time, showing unannounced to my home and work and to approach me as whilst I run errands. It took a long while for them to stop, I had to become firm and perhaps rude so they leave me alone. We should just follow the bible, we are not to receive them in our house.
@@tunzamassudi8142 The catholic church does door to door preaching. It is not done for the world to see. In fact, I obtained a scholarship by the Church in this manner and many thousands of children around the world still to this day.
I find it funny that JW’s think they are better due to door to door preaching more than others But what they don’t know is Christians use TV and on-line 1000x more than JW’s and reach hundreds of millions more Than they due. Also many non Christian’s show up at churches to seek and learn, very few people just roll into a Kingdom Hall because they are so bizarre. My proof = only 8 million JW’s vs. 3 billion born again Christians. Door to door don’t work
This is so funny- hes saying You dont stand a chance against a Witness when it comes to knowing the bible so instead attack the Watch Tower!!! 😂😂😂😂😂 God damn - instead of insisting that they learn the bible he just tells them to throw shade!!!
Caesar is Lord! Coins circulate throughout the Roman Empire proclaiming the Emperor’s divinity. The “divine” power has increased since Julius, the first Caesar, established the Empire in 49 BC. One of his successors, Nero, now uses it in every area of life.
john chapter six shows that Jesus was created . revelation chapter five destroys the trinity 2cor 13:8 so therefore if you cannot refute the watchtower witnesses you do not have the truth matthew 22:46
JW know 150-200 scriptures very well. But the other hundred thousand, not so much. For example, they read proverbs 4:18 a lot. Or really a few words from that one scripture. But they never read the rest of the chapter to know what proverbs 4:18 is actually about.
In scripture The early Christians we’re warned against someone preaching a different Jesus other than what they received,2000 years later here comes Charles Russell (the founder of the watchtower)preaching a different Jesus.
You are deceived.
@@AmbassadorEarl 2Cor 11:4
I hope I read your first comment wrong and that you are in agreement that the watchtower society is accursed.
@@AmbassadorEarl the watchtower preaches a different Jesus ,like Paul warned about. The faith was once for all delivered unto the the saints . Jude 1:3
@@Terrylb285 totally ignorant words.
I wish I could get a copy of his handout that has this information on it.
People are waking up to the Watchtower Society. Thank the Almighty I was one. I can only hope and pray other people will wake up as well.
@@Scott48-m7eJohn 1:1 . the Greek says Jesus is GOD
@@Scott48-m7e You sure? You very positive? Because I have the Greek interlinear… are you a JW because I’m going ask you to pull out your app and look at your kingdom interlinear.
@@Scott48-m7e firstly.. are you a JW?
@@Scott48-m7e 28 ¶ And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. - John 20:28
So Thomas called him ( THEOS ) ???
@@JoshuaMSOG7 my God the Father
No where n the Bible does it says to follow the Watchtower Bible and Track Society
Nowhere in bible says to worship a trinity god
@@AstariahJW in the Bible there is the trinity Father son and holy spirt that is the biblical not the fathers son and spirited organization
@@prlopez6134 no there isn't the trinity. Holy spirit is not even a person
@@AstariahJW Jw don’t believe in spirits souls or ghost wow and yes one thing Matthew 7:15 5 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves Charles T Russel is one of the biggest
@@prlopez6134 we dont believe in immortality of the soul cause bible doesnt teach it. We do believe there are spirit creatures in heaven. We also believe that earth was created for us to live on and heaven isn't for us and Jehovah only selects a few to rule with jesus christ. 144000 . They will rule over a new cleansed earth where righteousness dwells
I would love to have the information that was handed out at the end of this presentation!
Hi very well presented and good research.many thanks from England
It was not only poor research it was very misleading and misrepresents the Greek itself. It is obvious this man knows little and what he does he does not understand. He couldn't even understand the footnote for John 8.58.
To anyone thinking you can just jump right into a theological or linguistic debate with the Jehovah's Witnesses that show up at your door, _don't do it._ Unless you have a solid grasp of things like the Trinity, the hypostatic union, and prophecies, the average Witness can talk you into a theological error within sixty seconds.
Great presentation, great info. Thanks for sharing!
The man made so many mistakes and misrepresentations.
@@nametheunknown_ whoops, ignore that...wrong video. Well, one he made concerned John 8.58 where he thinks the NWT's footnote gives a Greek tense. It dosen't.
@@nametheunknown_ Do you agree?
@nametheunknown_ That he, in the video, mistook the grammar of the footnote in thinking it referred to the Greek tense of ego eimi when it *clearly* refers to the English rendering "I have been"?
It is just as a Christian, the theology and the interpretations is very important. In my own personal perspectives, it’s be easy to befriend them, and as a person you love them. But in a personal man and woman relationship if one of us is Christian, then it’s be very hard to fall in love with someone’s beliefs that you don’t share their beliefs. I would have to try to pull them to what I believe and have them converted if God our Jesus would allow it. I am Premillennial dispensation position. I try to tell people upfront my beliefs systems so as not to deceive them or anyone.
How can I get your handouts that are offered in this video.
Amongst several other misrepresentation he mistakes the tense in the footnote for John 8.58 for a Greek one. It is not! See Proverbs 14.15 and 18.17
anyone has this presentation?
This guy makes a lot of claims that have no merit. I hate it when people are allways trying to break down with nomsense.
A list of verses that the NWT gets WRONG. ( I will try to limit my bias as much as possible.)
O.T.: Gen. 3:1, Deut. 6:4 ( syntax), 1 Sam. 17:45, Ps. 2:12, Ps. 145:9, Isaiah 53:3, Is. 60:1, and others. N.T.: Matt. 1:2, Matt. 19:30, Mark 15:13, Luke 16:29, John 1:1, John 5:10, John 8:58, John 11:35, Acts 11:1, Acts 16:37, Rom. 10:4, 2 Tim. 3:16, 1 John 2:2, Rev. 6:8, Rev. 9:5, and others.
I read somewhere that the man who made the NWT Old Testament "translation" ADMITTED in court that he could not read or translation Hebrew.
The term "jehovah" & "yahweh", doesn't exsist in the Torah, in the Sepuagiint, in the Samaritan Pentateuch, nor the writings of Flavius Josephus. How about asking the mixed up jws, what they witnessed and explain the term they use so much. Have them further explain, why they believe humans more than the LORD (YHWH)? Faith in TRUTH & SPIRIT! God Bless!
How should YHWH be translated?
Excellent
No, it was terrible. He couldn't even understand the footnote for John 8.58. See Proverbs 14.15 and 18.17.
Do you have any info on James Tomanek? JWs will point to his translation that was done in 1958, but I cannot find any info on this person. I can’t find where his scholarly learning came from, if he was a scholar in Greek language, if he based his translation on a previous translation, if he was a Jehovah witness himself, or really anything. It’s even hard to find a copy of his translation online. I did find verses that were said to be his translation online, but not the entire translation. All of the other translations they point to either don’t say what they claim, they use them out of context, or they are translations done by Jehovah witnesses and they are just using circular reasoning. It seems like James Tomanek was a Jehovah witness based on the verses I seen posted of what his translation supposedly says, but I don’t want to say so without knowing for sure. His translation came after theirs so it’s not a huge issue, since they couldn’t have based their translation on a translation that came later but the reverse can be true.
When I talk to jws about John 1:1 they like to claim that their translation isn’t the only one that translates it a way similar to theirs. I can go through and show them why they are wrong about that claim with every translation except the Tomanek because I really can’t find anything about this person. I can take them through the Greek and explain why they are wrong also. I’d just like more info on this Tomanek person, he’s like a missing piece in a giant puzzle that I’m nearly finished with. I just think the more info I have the better vessel I can be for GOD. I’d appreciate any info you or anyone has on him, or anywhere I can be pointed to get the info myself. GOD bless you all in the mighty name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Where did you study Greek?
@@RiskeFactor I’m sorry I was asking for information on James Tomanek. Did you have any information on him or is this just a terrible appeal to authority?
I will answer your question though, I was taught all things by the Holy Spirit and I refer you to John 14:26. In addition to the question I asked you I’d also like to know if you ask the Jehovah Witness translators of the NWT where did they study their Greek? Do you even know who translated the NWT? Since Johannes Greber did his translations based off spirit mediums and not the Holy Spirit nor the actual Greek language, why did the JWs use his translation and still use it? Why can’t anyone know who currently translates the NWT for the JWs?
Here’s some easy Holy Scriptures for you to pray about..
John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my GOD.
Jesus didn’t rebuke Thomas for calling Him his GOD. This alone destroys everything JWs believe. Tell the NWT translators if you ever find out who they are that they need to update this verse too to say My lord and a god to fit with their wrong beliefs.
Isaiah 45:5 I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
There is no other god beside the Lord GOD, none else, not “a god”, none.
1 Peter 3:22 - Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of GOD; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
Jesus is on the right hand of GOD. If Jesus is just a god as JWs falsely claim, then He could not be beside GOD because there is NONE else.
Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
This verse is clearly talking about the Son on His throne who is Jesus Christ and this verse clearly calls Him GOD.
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty GOD, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Here the verse is talking about the Messiah, the verse calls Him GOD and the everlasting Father.
Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Revelation 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
In Isaiah 44:6 GOD is saying YHWH is the first and the last, beside Him there is no GOD. In Rev 2:8 Jesus calls Himself the first and the last, explains he died, and is alive. Either you have two firsts and lasts, or you must admit Jesus is calling Himself GOD. If you say Rev 2:8 is about Jehovah you must show a verse where Jehovah died.
I can keep going showing many many verses that Jesus is the visible image of the invisible GOD, GOD made flesh. Even up until 1954 JWs worshipped Jesus as GOD, in 1954 they declared it was idolatry. JWs have many huge problems they that flee from. If the Holy Bible was corrupt and nobody knew the Truth until the NWT in 1950 (or 1907 if you go by Berean), then for nearly 2,000 years nobody got saved according to their logic. It also goes against 2 Tim 3:16 and Matt 24:35. If people were saved and the original scrolls and translations of the originals are correct, then why are they changing what was already correct? If they say the originals were correct but in late 1500s they got translated wrong, then they still believe that for hundreds of years nobody got saved since those people didn’t have access to the original manuscripts and a correct translation until at least 1950, and even still were committing idolatry until 1954. Or do JWs now believe that idolaters get into Heaven? Even all the Jws from their start in 1872 until 1954 would be considered idolaters by their logic now.
Now I didn’t go through John 1:1 and the Greek itself because this entire video is about that, and I notice you didn’t reply to the creator of the video and ask them anything about the Greek. So I very much doubt you are honestly trying to learn anything about the Greek. It just seems like a terrible appeal to authority fallacy to me. If you want to go through the Greek, Johannes Greber’s translation, this video and the points made in here about the Greek, the current unknown NWT translators, the first few known JW translators, other translations that JWs wrongfully use, and any of the many many verses and problems the JWs have, I’d be glad to talk about them with you. Like I said in my original comment, I just don’t have much info on James Tomanek. If you actually have any information on him though it would be greatly appreciated if this wasn’t a logical fallacy and you could actually provide me with it?
@@bhaveaniceday5392 you said “I can take them through the Greek and explain why they are wrong.”
I simply asked where did you study Greek? 🤦🏻
I don’t have information on Tomanek, other than he lived in Idaho and passed away in the early 1970s.
@@RiskeFactor and I answered u. I was taught by the Holy Spirit John 14:26. Where did I learn? On earth throughout my years. What is the point of your question? A fact is a fact regardless of where the fact was learned.
@@bhaveaniceday5392 sorry, I assumed you knew the language. My mistake…
Thank you
Why does EVERY ? OH REALLY EVERY BIBLE!
Bible say that Jesus is God in Hebrews 1:8 when the New World Translation is the only Bible that says Jesus is a throne?
Not every Bible translation says Jesus is God in Hebrews 1:8. Quite a few do NOT say that. (Several are cited below).
What Bible translation says Jesus *IS* a throne? NONE that I’m aware of. ALL translations do say however, that God - Jesus’ God - anointed Jesus (to sit on Gods throne - Hebrews 1:9).
Hebrews 1:8 - a quote from Psalm 45:6 - are among the most famously debated verses (on grammatical grounds) in the Bible.
Hebrews 1:8 Literally: …the-throne-of-you-the-God-into-the-age-of-the-age
Psalm 45:6 Literally: …your-throne-God-forever-and-ever
Is the correct translation: “Your throne, O God”, or “Your throne is God”, or “God is your throne”?
The Context of Psalm 45:6.
Who is being addressed? - The newly anointed King Solomon.
What is the message the Psalmist is conveying to King Solomon? - That God is the real power or source of Solomon’s Kingdom.
ELOHIM (GOD) IN PSALM 45:6 (addresses God - or the King?)
Elohim (God) as Vocative (Applied to the King)
“Your throne, O God”
Elohim (God) as Predicate (Applied to God)
“Your throne is God”
Elohim (God) as Subject (Applied to God)
“God is your throne”
If you believe that the Psalmist is addressing King Solomon as the Almighty God then you would choose Vocative - “Your throne, O God”.
On the other hand, if you believe the Psalmist is saying to the newly anointed King, Solomon, that “God, your God who anointed you” (Psalm 45:7) is the author or source of Solomon’s throne, then you would render Elohim (God) as the subject: “God is your throne” because it is “God, your God who anointed you” to sit on Gods throne as the King of Gods Kingdom.
Many translators approve of the latter two choices over the Vocative; here are some examples:
“Your throne is God forever and ever. A scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.” Revised English Version
“Your throne, God, is forever and ever; The scepter of Your kingdom is a scepter of justice.” New American Standard Bible
“Your throne, God, is forever and ever; the scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of justice.” Christian Standard Bible
“Your throne, God, is forever and ever; the scepter of Your kingdom is a scepter of justice.” Holman Christian Standard Bible
“The kingdom that God has given you will last forever and ever. You rule over your people with justice;” Good News Translation
“Your throne, God, exists forever and ever, and the scepter of your kingdom is a righteous scepter.” International Standard Version
“God is your throne forever and ever”. NWT
“Thy throne given of God is for ever and ever; A sceptre of equity is the sceptre of thy kingdom”. JPS Tanakh 1917
CONCLUSION: The last cited source - the Jewish JPS captures the context of Psalm 46:6 very well “Thy throne given of God is for ever and ever”.
Hebrews 1:8,9 and Psalm 45:6,7 are saying that Jesus throne (kingdom) was given to him by God (Psalm 110:1 - Hebrews 1:3); the God who is also Jesus’ God and Father.
The context of Hebrews 1 as expressed in Hebrews 1:3 (from Psalm 110:1) is that Jesus Kingly authority was GIVEN to him by his father - “sit at my right hand until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet”. - It is therefore GOD, Jesus God - who is the author of his throne - “God is your throne” - God is the source “of the kingdom God has given you”.
The case of the highly regarded Updated American Standard Version by Christian Publishing House illustrates why people are still confused about Hebrews 1:8. The following is their rendition:
Psalm 45:6 (UASV): “God is your throne* forever and ever.”
*Footnote: “See 1 Chronicles 29:23, where it reads, “Then Solomon sat on the throne of Jehovah as king instead of David his father.” The rendering “Your throne, O God” would hardly make sense being addressed to the king. Further, see the footnote at Hebrews 1:8, which quotes from Psalm 45:6.”
Hebrews 1:8 (UASV): “But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God* is forever and ever,”
*Footnote: “Or, based on grammar, context, and Psalm 45:6-7, an alternative reading could be, God is your throne”.
Only 1951 they only had the their NT.
Is it possible to get a copy of these notes online? If anyone can help me with this I’d be very grateful. Thank you brothers and sisters
Any chance I can get a copy of the slides used?
Amongst the other gross errors he makes he misrepresents the footnote for John 8.58. Look at Proverbs 14.15 and 18.17.
Any way to get a PDF of this translation stuff?
Isiah says ( god said the is no savour except me).
the angel saves and redeems
Is his information available?
His information is 99% misinformation. See how he mistakes the language for
tense described in the footnote for John 8.58!
Beware of who you listen to for information. See Proverbs 14.15 and 18.17.
They have the free version of nwt 84 and 2013 on the play store ... I use the 1984 still .. only when comparing it to the 1966 Doubleday Jerusalem Bible
john chapter six shows that Jesus was created . revelation chapter five destroys the trinity
2cor 13:8 so therefore if you cannot refute the watchtower witnesses you do not have the truth matthew 22:46
The reason why the members of the other churches don't obey Jesus command at Acts 1 verse 8 ( just before he ascended to Heaven) YOU MUST BE WITNESSES OF ME IN JERUSALEM AND IN ALL JUDEA AND SAMARIA AND TO THE UTMOST PART OF THE EARTH, is because the churches don't have GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT. That's why they can't go witnessing.
BROTHERMAN, JEHOVAH WITNESSES are the only religious organizations fulfilling MATTHEW 24 v 14, NO OTHER RELIGION EVEN COME CLOSE TO ACQUIRING THE ABILITY TO FULFILL MATTHEW 24 v 14.
There are Chinese people living near you, some of them speak Mandarin and others speak Cantonese, Jehovahs witnesses speak to them all in their native tongue, DO YOU, or rather CAN YOU?
As we speak, Jehovah Witnesses are paddling a canoe 100 miles up the Amazon River,and hiking up the Andes mountain talking to all those remote villages in their native tongue, DO YOU, or rather CAN YOU?
If you have GOD'S WORD, and JEHOVAHS WITNESSES don't have it, how will the people of Uzbekistan ever get to hear the word? Jehovahs witnesses have hundreds of congregations in Kragikstan, going out SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, Uzbekistan, Crimea, Zanzibar Peru Norway, Germany France, Italy, Jamaica Guatemala Australia Equador Indonesia Belgium Turkey Japan, Korea, Taiwan China, Canada, BERMUDA, BARBADOS, SENEGAL, Somalia,,,Haiti, United States, Baltimore, Miami Faulklands, Panama Argentina, Brazil, Cuba, SURINAME, Venezuela, Columbia Spain. PORTUGAL, NEW ZEALAND south Africa, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, every where, you go. JEHOVAH WITNESSES are on the airport, street corners, train stations, farmers markets, shopping malls, while others go door to door. SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
IF GOD'S NAME IS NOT JEHOVAH, howcome, the King James version Bible that I have in my hand right now, says at Psalms 83 v 18, THAT MEN MAY KNOW THAT YOU ALONE WHOSE NAME IS JEHOVAH ARE THE MOST HIGH OVER ALL THE EARTH.? Howcome it don't say YHAWAY?
IF THERE WAS NO " J " IN HEBREW, HOW DID THE JEWS GET THEIR NAME? HOW DID THE ANCIENT RIVER JORDAN, GET ITS NAME? JOHN, JAMES, JOSEPH, JOB, JERICHO?????
AND HOW COME THE KHORAN SAYS THAT A MAN named Jesus DID EXIST AND HIS NAME IS JESUS? ALSO THE TORA?Where did they get the "J " From?
IF JESUS DIED ON A CROSS, WHY THEN DONT THE KING JAMES BIBLE SAY THAT? Please read, Acts 5 v 30, read, Acts 10 v 39, Galations3 v 13, Deuteronomy 21 v 21 to 23? JESUS DIED ON A TREE.
IF JESUS IS GOD, THEN MARK 10 verse 18 wouldn't make any sense? Jesus Christ said, WHY DO YOU CALL ME ( me) GOOD, NOBODY GOOD BUT ONE, THAT IS GOD. Does that sound to you like Jesus is God?
IF JESUS IS GOD, HOWCOME GOD HAVE TO GIVE HIM EVERYTHING? JOHN 5 v 26 says, " THE FATHER HAS LIFE IN HIMSELF, SO HE HAS ( GRANTED) THE SON TO HAVE LIFE IN HIMSELF. SO WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE JESUS WAS ( GRANTED) TO HAVE LIFE IN HIMSELF? IF SOMEONE GRANT YOU SOMETHING, OBVIOUSLY YOU DID NOT HAVE IT BEFORE IT WAS GRANTED TO YOU?
IF JESUS IS GOD, PLEASE EXPLAIN 1 CORINTHIANS 15,v 24 to 28 to the people you are misleading?
Throughout the entire NEW TESTAMENT, JESUS never took credit for anything, he always gives the credit to his father. THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN I, (JOHN 14 v 28) I CAN DO NOTHING OF MY OWN SELF, ( JOHN 5 v 30) NO MAN KNOWETH THE TIME OR THE HOUR, NOT THE ANGELS, NOT THE SON, BUT THE FATHER ( MARK 13 v 32) EVEN when Jesus found the money changers in the temple, he told them, you are making my father's house into a den of thieves.
The JESUS that JEHOVAH WITNESSES speak of, is the one mentioned at 1 JOHN 4 v 15, and 1 JOHN 5 v 5.
Please have a look @ Hebrews 1: 4-5 & explain how Watchtower comes to the conclusion that Jesus Christ is Arcangel Michael.
I'm not a JW, and never have been. But clearly this guy doesn't understand the basics of the Hebrew language and how it works (in regard to the no "J" in Hebrew. That is correct. However, 'When used in the International Phonetic Alphabet for the y sound, it may be called yod or jod.' (wikipedia).
A Jewish man (Nehemia Gordon; he has videos on YT) that studies ancient manuscripts shows proof that God's name never has been Yahweh, as there is no Biblical documents with it; but also indeed shows where the name Yehovah was there. And Mr. Gordon who also studies the New Testament manuscripts found several NT books of the Bible written in Hebrew, with the name of God in them.
Further more, the early Church historian, Eusebius, wrote, 'Matthew compiled the sayings [logia of Christ] in the Hebrew language, and each interpreted them as best he could.' (Eusebius, The Church History, pg. 114, Translation and commentary by Paul L. Maier).
You are so very educated and I sooo appreciate this! However...you miss the point which is Jesus is the Son of God, the Most High, seated at the Right Hand of the Father, and every knee SHALL bow before Him in Heaven, on earth , or below earth! He IS the only Mediator between The Most High and man! If you Don't believe me...Just wait until you DIE! The only reason you are here IS TO Chose!
No-one knows the exact name for God but Yahweh is as close as possible to his name.
Jehovah or Yahweh is never once been found in the new testament.
@@davidrennie4033 "the Name"(HaShem) of "The Almighty"(El Shaddai) is "HOLY" ... .. man cannot utter it. the "Alpha & Omega" cannot be confined to such as people tend to think.
to anyone interested in where the word "jehovah" came from ....
look into a man named, " raymundus martini" circa 1270ad.... the reason that jws hold to 'jehovah' as being Gods name is because they try to claim as such for a sense of "exclusivity"..thats it!!!
if they found out the 'Father" has a name other than jehovah ...the entire
"publishing for PROFITS"(unlike prophecy) would collapse and jw org would be exposed for the wolves and charlatans they really are!
@@davidrennie4033the Watchtower publications opine that the divine name means "He Causes To Become". If that's true then it is in the Hiphil form and the nikkud (vowel points) are those found in Yahweh.
It is actually very easy to gainsay over the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization because they don't know that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh.
Also, they don't understand that WE are not under the Mosaic laws of the Old Sinai Covenant. They don't understand that WE are under the New Covenant of grace through Christ and not of WORKS. All they do is teach WORKS WORKS WORKS!!! Salvation is given freely because Christ fulfilled it ALL.
I’m a Jehovahs Witness for 63 years now. I’ll gladly discuss biblical topics with you. You don’t like the NWT, then pick the translation of your choice.
I got out in 2002 and the thing is you are so brainwashed in the lies of the Watchtower the thing is if you really truly study the Bible you will find out that the Watchtower is wrong about a lot of things and one of them is 607 and the second coming of Christ was not in 1914 and when you keep on changing your ideas about the Bible that is not from God the Bible has always will be the same in the past the present and in the future but to the witnesses it's always changed and that's one thing I can never understand when I was in I got in and 1972 and got out in 2002 is not God's organization
Join Christianity, not a 20th century cult known as Jehovah's Witnesses
Hi. Could you please give me some evidence that Charles T Russel was the faithful and discrete slave mentioned by Jesus?
I can discuss biblical topics with you. One question I have is: what does it mean to be “Bible based.” For example, you may say this teaching is based on the Bible. But does that mean it’s taught in the Bible? Catholics might teach that you shouldn’t use birth control and that’s Bible based. Mormons might teach that caffeine is bad and that’s Bible based. But don’t these bible based teaching go beyond the thing written in the bible? Paul said “do not go beyond the things written.” (1 cor 4:6)
Shouldn’t we only teach things that are actually taught in the Bible? And if we do that, we would never have to change the teachings.
Gerardo, could you please give me some evidence that the faithful slave mentioned by Jesus in Matthew 24 is the Governing body and, why the Watchtower changed its understanding several times ( started with the 144,000 then Russell, then Jesus+144,000,then the 144,000 until today Governing body ).
One way to get a j.W. speechless is to say in deutaromy the farther is called lord of lords and in Timothy Jesus is called Lord of lords so are they up there now fighting on who is the true Lord, or ask them if Jesus were to knock on your door tonight and ask you am i a true God or a false God, what are you going to say? Because the Bible says there's only true God 😮😮😮😮
Yes, only one true God. The Father. See John 17.3 and 1 Cor.8.6.
Jesus is neither the one true God or a false god.
@@brucebarnard
Do you know that until about 1952, JW worshiped Jesus? Then new light. So for 70 years they were doing what they would today call idolatry or false worship if someone else did it.
Why did God wait 70 years to tell them not to do this if it’s so bad to worship Jesus?
@@d_e_a_n You err. The Greek word the NT authors used at times, PROSKYNEO, was used for what they did toward God but *also those who were not* and w.o. any form of 'idolatry' being performed. Compare John 4.24 with Revelation 3.9. So it matters not what word one uses, either the Greek or an English one, such as "worship" but what is in the heart and mind that is. The JWs have never 'worshipped' the Son as God just as no 1st century Christian did even though, as stated, the NT used *the same Greek word for God and others not God* . But a Greek word they did use, LATREU, does mean religious worship of one that is God and that word the NT authors never used for what was given the Son but only the Father. See John 4.24b and check a Greek-English lexicon. For only the Father is the "one God" for true Christians. See 1 Cor.8.6; Ephesians 4.6.
@@brucebarnard
It seems like you don’t know your history. And I have many files on the word proskyneo. I know you would say that word doesn’t always mean worship. But that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m telling about JW, for 70 years, worshiping Jesus. The English word worship. It was in their charter until 1999. There are dozens of quotes about them worshipping Jesus. And it’s understandable. In Hebrews 1:6, it says in your green Bible (an older Bible) that all the angels “worshipped” him. And if the angles were worshipping him it’s reasonable for them to think they should. And did. For 70 years Jehovahs witnesses worshipped Jesus. I could find you all the quotes if you like. There’s like 15 or a couple dozen from watchtowers and books. They definitely worshiped Jesus and felt it was right for decades. And then new light. But this isn’t logical. That today would be called false worship or idolatry by Jw today if someone else did that. And they did this for 70 years. For half their existence I think.
@@brucebarnard if you really want I can find all those quotes.
John 17:26 Never once does this man use God personal name.
Around 18:26 plus whats God's personal name???
God does not have a "Personal Name"! It's man who gives out names. Ask God (Source) and He'll (no pronound here) tell you: "I am". That's as close as you'll get to a name.
@@MrPoohman1981 that name “ Jehovah “ is invented by the Illuminati’s but you know that don’t you!
@@vandamedeiros1101 I know its invented but the other part is new to me
@@stephensmith60 Jehovah Exodus 6:3 KJV
The discussions eith JWs must be what they are trained to talk about. If you ask questions outside of that training they will never have an answer. I've seen this first hand.
very artificial and fraudulent manipulation by the audience with fake argumentation. You see, I purposely used the same method - claiming without real examples. But this is what the speaker does all the time
This is great stuff!!
It is terrible 'stuff'! He got so much wrong it would be laughable if it wasn't so serious.
This is the most lame discussion regarding the NWT I have ever viewed. I expected far more research to be presented here and expected the speaker to have been far more educated on the subject. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, we often say.
The speaker says you don't really need to know Greek to present these arguments. But, therein lies the problem - he is clearly way in over his head and doesn't demonstrate an understanding of the Greek language, as it relates to translation work. Nor does he understand how the English form of the divine name developed throughout the years. He is very naive in believing his arguments will "destroy" the arguments for the NWT. He has underestimated the work Jehovah's Witnesses have done in their translation efforts.
Regarding the divine name in the Greek Scriptures, the speaker appears to be of the belief that the sole reason for including the divine name in the Greek portion is due to "Old Testament support." That is not entirely true and he should have known better, as he had access to the 2013 edition of the NWT, which contains Appendix A5, outlining a number of reasons why the divine name has been restored in those exact 237 locations, including support in the Hebrew Scriptures. The speaker also appears confused regarding what he perceives as "inconsistencies" regarding when the divine name is used in the Greek Scriptures. Again, if he had examined the appendix (which I'm sure he did, but declined to present it), he would have noted that the ONLY places where the NWT Committee restored the divine name in the Greek Scriptures (“New Testament”) is where it determined that there is compelling evidence that the Tetragrammaton appeared in the original Greek manuscripts (before being removed by scribes in the 2nd and 3rd century).
One piece of evidence for the divine name in the Greek Scriptures is the lack of the definite article occurring before Kyʹri·os. Greek has a definite article, but it doesn't always appear before Kyʹri·os, although it should be present for linguistic reasons. Due to this, translators today have had to insert the definite article "the" in the English where it is expected grammatically. Should this be happening?! NO. So, why are there areas in the Greek Scriptures that have Kyʹri·os without the definite article? Simple. Because the divine name used to be in that location, before being replaced with Kyʹri·os. There was no room to add the definite article "ho" in the Greek
I never heard the argument that the NWT doesn't contain any bias. All Bibles contain bias. The question we should be asking ourselves is: Which Bible contains the least amount of bias and does the bias it does contain create conflicts with the Bible's overall message? Every scripture must be in harmony with all the others. And, I will say without hesitation that the NWT contains the least amount of bias of any mainstream translation. I say "mainstream" because those are the ones I have studied - the ones you can find on biblehub.com or biblegateway.com, for example.
This is what we tell people: please do your research and don’t take anyone’s word for it - not opposers of JWs, not the Watchtower, nor JWs. Study it for yourself and don’t let people do the studying for you. Your very life depends on it!
It all sounds excellent
I have studied it for itself and you made jesus a lower g god and your translation comes from a diffrent greek text than the textua reciptus or received text this is the error right here yall came after the revolutionary war and believe the modren scholars new greek which was made in the 1800s this is part of the new light but by its own motion would mean all Christian including the originap ones were wrong they used the recived text or textus receptus
I come from occultism they also make jesus a lower g god so do freemasons why do these lucifarian agree with yall on jesus being made a god and not jesus being God this opens the door for if jesus was made a god than God lied and therefore saten told the truth and i have had those type 9f comversation about other topics because 9f the niv the king james closes the case so you onow that jesus is God among us and God never lied why is because it comes from the textus reciptus
Seriously mate, I have read your comments. I don't think you watched this video. He covered the points you said he had missed.
You stated " A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, we often say." You were commenting on the structure of the Koine Greek language.
Question 1)
please advise where you studied Koine Greek ?
Question 2)
Please provide evidence from Linguistic Scholars that the name "Jehovah" is not erroneous and was not invented by a Roman Catholic Monk in the Middle Ages
Also you made this bewildering comment "And, I will say without hesitation that the NWT contains the least amount of bias of any mainstream translation."
Question 3)
What are your qualifications to make this statement ? What Doctorates do you have in the biblical studies, or is your "little knowledge " just an opinion based on how you feel ?
Question 4)
This is the most important question, who are the translators of the NWT and what are their qualifications ?
I know the names of the Governing Body and all the GB helpers, All the Elders are listed etc in WT material, so if they are named in WT material and on public record, they are not trying to get the glory and adulation of men.
So the names of the translators should also be readily available. WHO ARE THEY?
I'll let you in on a little secret after you answer question 4
Question 5)
Please provide 4 Scholars in the field of Ancient Middle Eastern Linguistics who can confirm your silly and conspiracy ridden claptrap about the Divine Name "before being removed by scribes in the 2nd and 3rd century"
This is just nonsense. 5 thousand Greek manuscripts and not one has the Jehovah. Not one.
I imagine YOU agree with the Watchtower that has stated many times the bible is: "
“That it [The Finished Mystery] contains some mistakes is freely admitted. Even the Bible contains some.”
WT 4/1/1920, p. 103
“Sometimes a member of a class will refuse to engage in the canvasing for the books because there are some mistakes in the books. . . . As everyone knows, there are mistakes in the Bible. . . .”WT 4/15/1928, p. 126”
What a low view you have of the bible. Your organisation does too.
Waiting for 5 answers to my 5 questions.
I have asked 5 questions and you can't even give a "lame"response. like nearly every other JW, when confronted by an educated Christian, you cannot even respond. I'll ask the questions again, hoping you might TRY and and at least TRY to attempt to answer my questions.
Question 1)
please advise where you studied Koine Greek ?
Question 2)
Please provide evidence from Linguistic Scholars that the name "Jehovah" is not erroneous and was not invented by a Roman Catholic Monk in the Middle Ages
Also you made this bewildering comment "And, I will say without hesitation that the NWT contains the least amount of bias of any mainstream translation."
Question 3)
What are your qualifications to make this statement ? What Doctorates do you have in the biblical studies, or is your "little knowledge " just an opinion based on how you feel ?
Question 4)
This is the most important question, who are the translators of the NWT and what are their qualifications ?
I know the names of the Governing Body and all the GB helpers, All the Elders are listed etc in WT material, so if they are named in WT material and on public record, they are not trying to get the glory and adulation of men.
So the names of the translators should also be readily available. WHO ARE THEY?
I'll let you in on a little secret after you answer question 4
Question 5)
Please provide 4 Scholars in the field of Ancient Middle Eastern Linguistics who can confirm your silly and conspiracy ridden claptrap about the Divine Name "before being removed by scribes in the 2nd and 3rd century"
This is just nonsense. 5 thousand Greek manuscripts and not one has the Jehovah. Not one.
I imagine YOU agree with the Watchtower that has stated many times the bible is: "
“That it [The Finished Mystery] contains some mistakes is freely admitted. Even the Bible contains some.”
WT 4/1/1920, p. 103
“Sometimes a member of a class will refuse to engage in the canvasing for the books because there are some mistakes in the books. . . . As everyone knows, there are mistakes in the Bible. . . .”WT 4/15/1928, p. 126”
What a low view you have of the bible. Your organisation does too.
Waiting for 5 answers to my 5 questions.
But the “nwt” is almost exactly like the “niv” except maybe more confusing babel.
Do tell what bible/s are not confusing babel?
@@jahtruthdefender First of all “Ye must be born again” John 3:7. Unless you’re saved you con not understand the scriptures. And then with a little learning about the “Elizabethan and archaic” language, if you truly want to know what the Word wrote in His word, he’ll show you. The plain answer is, The King James Bible is God’s pure, preserved word Psalm 12:6,7.
@@AmbassadorEarl I would have thought one would need to understand scripture before being borne again. God’s pure bible that has spurious text sorry but just wouldn’t be a true of God. Thanks for the reply anyway
@@jahtruthdefender Not being rude but that’s what you get for thinking. In the Bible , every time a man thinks, it does not turn out good. All you need to know before you get saved is that you are lost and going to a devil’s Hell if God doesn’t help you. From a sincere heart ask God for help and He will send it.
@@jahtruthdefender And what spurious texts are you talking about? And who showed them to you? It was the devil or one of his ministers of righteousness, corrupting God’s word.
I'm sorry, I have been very polite to them, that they have felt entitled to my time, showing unannounced to my home and work and to approach me as whilst I run errands. It took a long while for them to stop, I had to become firm and perhaps rude so they leave me alone. We should just follow the bible, we are not to receive them in our house.
My question is why is your church don't preach door to door the way Jesus command?
@@tunzamassudi8142 The catholic church does door to door preaching. It is not done for the world to see. In fact, I obtained a scholarship by the Church in this manner and many thousands of children around the world still to this day.
I find it funny that JW’s think they are better due to door to door preaching more than others
But what they don’t know is Christians use TV and on-line 1000x more than JW’s and reach hundreds of millions more
Than they due. Also many non Christian’s show up at churches to seek and learn, very few people just roll into a
Kingdom Hall because they are so bizarre.
My proof = only 8 million JW’s vs. 3 billion born again Christians. Door to door don’t work
This is so funny- hes saying You dont stand a chance against a Witness when it comes to knowing the bible so instead attack the Watch Tower!!! 😂😂😂😂😂 God damn - instead of insisting that they learn the bible he just tells them to throw shade!!!
Thank you
Caesar is Lord! Coins circulate throughout the Roman Empire proclaiming the Emperor’s divinity. The “divine” power has increased since Julius, the first Caesar, established the Empire in 49 BC. One of his successors, Nero, now uses it in every area of life.
john chapter six shows that Jesus was created . revelation chapter five destroys the trinity
2cor 13:8 so therefore if you cannot refute the watchtower witnesses you do not have the truth matthew 22:46
The watchtower is a false prophet- the worst in history.
@LeeJohnson curious as to what you mean by John 6 showing Jesus was made? Looked through the chapter and couldn’t find any verse saying this
@@garrettgraf2514 John 6:57
@@leejohnson6328 both my own translation and the NWT say he was sent, not that he was made
@@garrettgraf2514 John 6:57 and I live because of the Father
Hahahahaha - Witnesses DO know their shit. Theyll tear down almost all Christians but for maybe 7th day Advents
JW know 150-200 scriptures very well. But the other hundred thousand, not so much. For example, they read proverbs 4:18 a lot. Or really a few words from that one scripture. But they never read the rest of the chapter to know what proverbs 4:18 is actually about.
This man has no idea what he's talking about. Prospective effects translation.