Ive actually changed my mind on him, so I respectfully disagree: When he does watch a show he ends up either not paying attention, already deciding his take before watching, and/or just not understanding what he's watching and why. It turns out when he doesnt watch *at all* he sounds the same as when he claims to and apparently everyone over there is fine with that. So, fuck it, why watch any of the shows at all? If the paychecks are coming no matter what AND theyre happy with his contributions to the pod, why not spend the days doing activities + hobbies he enjoys instead? Or shit, get some remote freelance job and bring in a secondary revenue stream with all the free time.
I was annoyed at first with Charles. But I reminded myself that it's not that serious. I don't think anyone is legitimately relying on Charles's opinion on The Penguin and Agatha to determine if they are going to watch the show or not. This rating thing is more for fun/content. I don't agree with Charles's takes, but I'm trying not to let it bother me too much...trying 😭
Not gonna lie Charles defending Steve and putting van on, is the first time I've ever agreed with Charles. Steve monkey man point I found Poiniant and Charles take on it vs Deadpool vs wolverine was too good. Obviously just my opinion.!
Sorry but Charles docking X-Men 97 1 point is literally docking the point for docking's sake.And that come from someone who haven't watch the show yet so literally no dogs in the game. Like I understand the reason for Kingdom of POTA, he's docking 1-2 points because at first he thought it's great, but then he realize he didn't think about it that much so 8 is like some point at the moment, in the "hype" so it need down a little. Kinda fair. But then you docking XMen 97 for the same reason, when you already gave it 6? You already thought it not that good already, of course you don't think about it that much then why you're docking the point now for not thinking about it?
Damn charles 3 for invincible season 2? I know it wasn’t as good as season 1 but jeez. You also can’t rate shows if you haven’t finished them that’s crazy
Imagine you had to turn in a school paper and your teacher gave you a D- on the paper then at the end of the semester you findout the teacher didn't even read the paper. That teacher is Charles
really appreciated how your discussion on movie ratings expanded into what the movies mean to the broader industry/ecosystem. y'all are way more thoughtful about this than the studio execs
The conversation about Gladiator II and Furiosa both being unnecessary sequels was solid. Would love to see you guys look at some abandoned sequel concepts (like the Christ Killer Gladiator II) and rate how well they would’ve worked
I can see why some people will go with Brutalist or Anora or any other movie as number 1 but what Denis Villeneuve archived with Dune 2 is truly remarkable and it will the benchmark for sci-fi movies going forward.
Yeah Charles’ whole “you guys seriously expect me to watch this slop” bit has gotten a little grating since it moved fully into “I’m just here to talk about how much I hate my job” cause shit, man, get to the back of the line then if that’s your thing. Any of us would gladly watch slop and talk about it for our jobs 😂
Okay, I hope that Charles (and Steve!) making great points in the first two thirds of this ep. doesn't get completely drowned out by the response to the last third portion. I really think that convo. from the entire table around Monkey Man and Deadpool and how they relate to the entire filmmaking ecosystem is a really really needed discourse to be engaged in seriously in long-form content and I want more of that.
i got a friend JUST like Charles. If everybody loves something hes like thats MID and when everybody thinks something is trash hes like i didnt think it was bad
also surprised that with all of the cam'ron and 50 talk, no one brought up cam'ron calling angie martinez while 50 was there and unleashing the 'CURTIS!' rant
Another Hip-Hop radio classic is Camron trolling 50 in an interview via phone calling him "Curtis". Then, 50 used his government name for the title of his next album.
Still surprises me that some people expect serious criticism from Charles. He's obviously the Fox News of critique, there for the laughs, not to be taken seriously
There's one thing I didn't like - what's entertaining to someone is objective. You can't tell someone that Deadpool & Wolverine was more 'entertaining' than Furiosa - we all enjoy different things and can't police what we take satisfaction from. We can always debate what is a better movie but personal feelings aren't something we can have an authority over.
I really am so glad DKR is getting the fine wine treatment. Great movie and almost perfect ending to a trilogy. It had way too much to live up to and people were naturally gonna be too harsh on it.
It’s a good movie if not a really good movie. But it came in the wake of a great movie with a transcendent performance. I think people dinged it at the time for this, but now it’s being properly appreciated.
@ 1000% this but I think you can make the claim it came on the heels of a transcendent movie as well. TDK changed so much not in just comic book movie but movies in general.
Joker has gone up to 6/10 for me, just for the ire it produces to its adult fans. Why are you taking it so personally? The movie was a -messy, uncoordinated, weird, unreasonably musical- deconstruction on the the pretentious fandom of the first movie. Being so upset that your fave is not a cool hero, which was evident in part 1, come on. I'm never watching it again, but i'm glad it exists
Not to be a hater but imo 12 has no meaning anymore. “I loved it” is a 10 imo. A remake of a show people loved that was good again or a sequel to a movie people loved is not changing the game to me.
"Yeah, I think I was fair....I think I'm being fair.....I think I'm only going to..... dock it 1 point." ..... This dude does not like anything that's not anime or Japan related. Smh 🤦
Shame on him. It's the original film reheated in a microwave, with a massively less charismatic/credible lead and is utter slop. Had nothing new to say and an utter cash grab. His talent aside he's a fool bigging up this trash.
@@dcro1211 Shame on everyone who doesn't have enough balls to admit Paul Mescal was really good in the lead role. This effing film could very well get nominated for BEST PICTURE at Oscars! If it doesn't it will be just outside the top 10. So, yeah shame on whatever critics, talking heads in RUclips, and the casuals... Because none of them are really giving Mescal his props. Mescal is in almost every scene of the film. Denzel was great, yes, of course... Denzel was great because he played it like he was doing a Shakespeare. IMO, Paul Mescal was TOO; maybe I just know more about Shakespeare than most...
@JP47471 Mescal is a tremendous talent. Woefully miscast in this. You have the lowest of standards if you're talking Oscars?!...For this?! It's a photocopy of the original and with the toner running out. No accounting for taste but I can guarantee you this movie will leave the Oscars untroubled.
You can’t score a show or movie you bailed on. That’s just foul and it ain’t a food review that doesn’t give you everything flavor wise in a few bites. Seasons have a climax usually or lead up to something and to judge it before you let it complete the story is just refusing to do your job. Charles may as well work for IGN with their crap reviews. No one is gonna take him seriously if he keeps this up.
Dune 2 is ok. It looks good, the soundtrack's great but aside from Javier Bardem and Zendaya, none of the performances made me think that these were real people. Timothée Chalamet was sleep-walking through both films and it hurt the films overall. It's a 6.5/10 to 7/10 film.
House of the dragon season 2 is the Joker 2 of TV shows. Promises to be something so much more and gives nothing by the end of it,by the end you don't feel disappointment at that incompetence just disappointment.
I get the Charles being a troll bit but seriously at this point he’s simply not doing his job. He’s the person in your assigned college class group skating by doing the absolute least.
Not trying to glaze lol but the "if the baton ain't being passed to me then I'm gonna take it" was 🤌🏽. Loved that Monkey Man discussion! Excellent points all around!
Charles isn't really a film head, it feels like hes just there for meaningless banter within these convos. He's not bringing real and authentic vibes to the exercise and it's really annoying to watch this.
Giving opinions and he hasn’t even watched the shit? What. That’s simply unprofessional and a joke. SMH. Where’s the leadership around there to hold people accountable
I assume he expects whatever it is that got beau fired to come out and retroactively vindicate the ludicrous xmen ranking. However as a professional critic he *should* know that's not how art works. "Not for me" is not enough of an analysis when you are this far off consensus.
Charles, you're disqualified from rating things you didn't actually finish watching.
Facts
Ive actually changed my mind on him, so I respectfully disagree:
When he does watch a show he ends up either not paying attention, already deciding his take before watching, and/or just not understanding what he's watching and why.
It turns out when he doesnt watch *at all* he sounds the same as when he claims to and apparently everyone over there is fine with that. So, fuck it, why watch any of the shows at all?
If the paychecks are coming no matter what AND theyre happy with his contributions to the pod, why not spend the days doing activities + hobbies he enjoys instead? Or shit, get some remote freelance job and bring in a secondary revenue stream with all the free time.
Indeed. Not finishing something indicates that you're not serious about evaluating a work of fiction's quality.
@@panckreousexcellent take here.
I was annoyed at first with Charles. But I reminded myself that it's not that serious. I don't think anyone is legitimately relying on Charles's opinion on The Penguin and Agatha to determine if they are going to watch the show or not. This rating thing is more for fun/content. I don't agree with Charles's takes, but I'm trying not to let it bother me too much...trying 😭
Charles not finishing a show and then having the audacity to score is crazy 😢. That's a DNF for sure 😂
Next time Charles is about to not finish a show...he needs to remember Kerm is looming on the horizon
Grandma Charles the agent of chaos in his cardigan. 😂
Grandpa chic is tremendous
Charles is the Skip Bayless of this show. I don't take a single thing he says seriously.
So accurate lol
Ooof
Amen
1:35:16 Charles stop playing. You know you wouldn’t pull up to any other pod not doing your homework. Someone get Bill Simmons to talk to this man.
Charles admitting he didn't finish those shows is like a crazy ass season finale twist
Not gonna lie Charles defending Steve and putting van on, is the first time I've ever agreed with Charles. Steve monkey man point I found Poiniant and Charles take on it vs Deadpool vs wolverine was too good. Obviously just my opinion.!
And you’re absolutely spot on!!!
Van is too self assured. Bad for podding. Have some curiosity dude .
Shout out to Steve for staying strong with that Nigerian Special agent bit. It would’ve been way worse if he stopped and got uncomfortable
Charles should’ve stayed on vacation. Rating things he did not finish watching is just insane 🤣
Charles’ fit looks like he won a contest to raid Hasan Piker’s closet
Van’s face as Charles is trying to rationalize NOT watching all the episodes…😂😂😂 1:36:37
1:46:05 Jomi too solid for the hairline save mid crash out 😂😂
Sorry but Charles docking X-Men 97 1 point is literally docking the point for docking's sake.And that come from someone who haven't watch the show yet so literally no dogs in the game.
Like I understand the reason for Kingdom of POTA, he's docking 1-2 points because at first he thought it's great, but then he realize he didn't think about it that much so 8 is like some point at the moment, in the "hype" so it need down a little. Kinda fair.
But then you docking XMen 97 for the same reason, when you already gave it 6? You already thought it not that good already, of course you don't think about it that much then why you're docking the point now for not thinking about it?
Purely docking a point for attention - clown activity
@@random5299 no no, you dont understand. he is a serious critic. we know that because he tells us constantly.
Nahhhh the 5 for X-men ‘97 can’t be serious
It feels like Charles looks at what everybody likes and goes "alright, I'm gonna take the opposite opinion".
@@Regenmacher175Contrarians make for compelling content 😅
Charles gonna Charles
@@gabalexa I would have given Shogun a 5 just to spite him, lol. See how he feels when the shoe is on the other foot.
@@Regenmacher175 a contrarian for sure 😂
I switched from Spotify to RUclips just for the Charles backlash
Charles is right about deadpool and wolverine. It’s everything that’s wrong with modern filmmaking.
People who dislike Charles just cant handle the truth
He ate Van up
Most movies are not being made like it. Felt strawman like
Charles is a psychopath bruh
Damn charles 3 for invincible season 2? I know it wasn’t as good as season 1 but jeez. You also can’t rate shows if you haven’t finished them that’s crazy
Imagine you had to turn in a school paper and your teacher gave you a D- on the paper then at the end of the semester you findout the teacher didn't even read the paper. That teacher is Charles
I was with Chuck in the beginning. And, then we hit that corner towards the end and I, like Steve, and ready to fight him. Lol. Chuck! Wtf man?!
Ya! He was dialed in at first like he used to be, I got hopeful. Ah well
So if Charles is out on every movie and show does that mean he'll be out of the pod next year?
Dont get charles hating everything he sees... is like he is in the wrong line of job
aye shout out to jomi if that's a red vs blue shirt, that's a man of culture right there
really appreciated how your discussion on movie ratings expanded into what the movies mean to the broader industry/ecosystem. y'all are way more thoughtful about this than the studio execs
The conversation about Gladiator II and Furiosa both being unnecessary sequels was solid. Would love to see you guys look at some abandoned sequel concepts (like the Christ Killer Gladiator II) and rate how well they would’ve worked
I can see why some people will go with Brutalist or Anora or any other movie as number 1 but what Denis Villeneuve archived with Dune 2 is truly remarkable and it will the benchmark for sci-fi movies going forward.
Thing is, there aren't many Dunes out there. It's **the** sci-fi book. The film isn't going to spawn a trend of ones like it that are successful.
Lol Charles cops to not doing the easiest part of his objectively easy job
Yeah Charles’ whole “you guys seriously expect me to watch this slop” bit has gotten a little grating since it moved fully into “I’m just here to talk about how much I hate my job” cause shit, man, get to the back of the line then if that’s your thing. Any of us would gladly watch slop and talk about it for our jobs 😂
When Charles says “I’m gonna stay fair” 😂😂😂😂
Okay, I hope that Charles (and Steve!) making great points in the first two thirds of this ep. doesn't get completely drowned out by the response to the last third portion. I really think that convo. from the entire table around Monkey Man and Deadpool and how they relate to the entire filmmaking ecosystem is a really really needed discourse to be engaged in seriously in long-form content and I want more of that.
I never take Charles seriously and this supports that, not surprised, kinda surprised he admitted it
Nigerian 007??? PLAY THE DRUMS!!!
Does Charles dress like that all the time
looking LA as shit
The cords should be tapered, but do not see a problem with the fit
charles might be the most unserious critic lol. stick to guest spots on dissect my good brother
37:31 Wow new villain of the show. Ez to just not listen to him anymore MANS WILDIN
I’m tripping or we didn’t get the Matrix Resurrections re rank?
Love Van’s and Jommie’s reaction at 1:38:00 - difference in generations. Great podcast guys!
Damn that moment was a microcosm of modern culture
Chuck gave a really fair take on Deadpool and Wolverine.
Charles is the final boss of contrarians, I don’t even think he believes the cap he spits 😂😂😂
i got a friend JUST like Charles. If everybody loves something hes like thats MID and when everybody thinks something is trash hes like i didnt think it was bad
I didn’t watch Dune 2, but I would give it a 4. Have to be honest.
Charles keeping it 100. so good & doing the necessary work. stand your ground against these.
"Doing the necessary work". He didn't even finish the shows bro, lol 😅
@@thunderbandit5172 if you finished all the seasons of TV they discussed on this episode, thats a You problem not a Charles problem lmao.
@flangeslammer he is the one getting paid to watch and opine. He can just bow out if he DNF
Pew pew
Nigerian asset is CRAZY Steve 😂
the silence after that was deafening
The acolyte deserved a season 2. Plenty of shows that have a lot to work with have a rocky first season
1:56:05 - With the overall average scores, I think they did pretty well
also surprised that with all of the cam'ron and 50 talk, no one brought up cam'ron calling angie martinez while 50 was there and unleashing the 'CURTIS!' rant
Gosling in the last decade: "The Big Short", "The Nice Guys", "La La Land", "Blade Runner 2049". "First Man", "Barbie", "The Fall Guy". Epic run.
Another Hip-Hop radio classic is Camron trolling 50 in an interview via phone calling him "Curtis". Then, 50 used his government name for the title of his next album.
Okay after that X-Men 97 take I think I'll just stick to the House of R, Y'all are lost in the Sauce
Still surprises me that some people expect serious criticism from Charles. He's obviously the Fox News of critique, there for the laughs, not to be taken seriously
Nostalgia is working overtime on Xmen 97.
There's one thing I didn't like - what's entertaining to someone is objective. You can't tell someone that Deadpool & Wolverine was more 'entertaining' than Furiosa - we all enjoy different things and can't police what we take satisfaction from. We can always debate what is a better movie but personal feelings aren't something we can have an authority over.
Penguin being higher than HOTD is brazy
Giving X97 a 5 is criminal! He gotta go sit somewhere for a sec 😭
What word did they bleep during the HotD segment? Language doesn’t seem like a factor for this pod
Probably gypped. And yes it is offensive. Not sure they needed to censor it. Just a learning moment
Charles is right 95% of the time. But bruh. You gotta finish the shows. 😂
I really am so glad DKR is getting the fine wine treatment.
Great movie and almost perfect ending to a trilogy. It had way too much to live up to and people were naturally gonna be too harsh on it.
It’s a good movie if not a really good movie. But it came in the wake of a great movie with a transcendent performance. I think people dinged it at the time for this, but now it’s being properly appreciated.
@ 1000% this but I think you can make the claim it came on the heels of a transcendent movie as well. TDK changed so much not in just comic book movie but movies in general.
Please let kerm take over
Nah, Steve is good on the pod. 🫡 to Kerm, he should still make appearances and be a fill in host
Dope show, Fellas…Surprised Fallout didn’t make the cut!
Joker has gone up to 6/10 for me, just for the ire it produces to its adult fans. Why are you taking it so personally? The movie was a -messy, uncoordinated, weird, unreasonably musical- deconstruction on the the pretentious fandom of the first movie. Being so upset that your fave is not a cool hero, which was evident in part 1, come on. I'm never watching it again, but i'm glad it exists
Charles this episode = 🧢 🧢🧢
Everyone’s opinions on the shows/movies are pretty good. Charles made this episode blah
Disappointed they didn’t do Fight Night with Kevin hart. Easily one of the best shows to come out
Thumbnail gets a 12 on the MM for being certifiably GAMECHANGING
Please let this be the last episode with the white guy.
No
Charles not finishing Agatha is so messed up. The last 2 eps make you completely rethink the series
Please send Charles somewhere to talk about Pusher T records or something else he actually seems to give a shit about.
6:51 HR HR !!
to give X-men a 5 is scathingly atrocious, that shit took over the internet in terms of positive discourse and ratings across every app
CHUCK MVP 2024
Not to be a hater but imo 12 has no meaning anymore. “I loved it” is a 10 imo. A remake of a show people loved that was good again or a sequel to a movie people loved is not changing the game to me.
Such a foul move to rate it and not finish it
Is Steve starting to look like he was fostered in the projects
Gangggg
i love charles. stand on business sir lol
Matt Reaves's "The Batman" is not the dark knight, but is good. Probably better than most MCU of phase 4.
When Charles pulls this crap, they need to hook him like vaudeville and bring in Kerm or SOB who probably have watched the shows
"Yeah, I think I was fair....I think I'm being fair.....I think I'm only going to..... dock it 1 point." .....
This dude does not like anything that's not anime or Japan related. Smh 🤦
Never been here so early
Charles gotta be 🧌 trolling. If not, bro....
Gladiator 2
Is Chris Nolan's favorite film of the year
That is facts.
Shame on him. It's the original film reheated in a microwave, with a massively less charismatic/credible lead and is utter slop. Had nothing new to say and an utter cash grab. His talent aside he's a fool bigging up this trash.
I feel like that tells me he's seen like 2 movies this year lmfao
@@dcro1211 Shame on everyone who doesn't have enough balls to admit Paul Mescal was really good in the lead role. This effing film could very well get nominated for BEST PICTURE at Oscars! If it doesn't it will be just outside the top 10. So, yeah shame on whatever critics, talking heads in RUclips, and the casuals... Because none of them are really giving Mescal his props. Mescal is in almost every scene of the film. Denzel was great, yes, of course... Denzel was great because he played it like he was doing a Shakespeare. IMO, Paul Mescal was TOO; maybe I just know more about Shakespeare than most...
@@Weaponator18 I know for a fact Chris Nolan has seen Dune 2. Just saying. He's probably seen Furiosa and Deadpool 3 as well...
@JP47471 Mescal is a tremendous talent. Woefully miscast in this. You have the lowest of standards if you're talking Oscars?!...For this?! It's a photocopy of the original and with the toner running out. No accounting for taste but I can guarantee you this movie will leave the Oscars untroubled.
Charles = Squidward irl
You can’t score a show or movie you bailed on. That’s just foul and it ain’t a food review that doesn’t give you everything flavor wise in a few bites. Seasons have a climax usually or lead up to something and to judge it before you let it complete the story is just refusing to do your job. Charles may as well work for IGN with their crap reviews. No one is gonna take him seriously if he keeps this up.
Dune 2 was the movie of the year and RIP Drake 2024. Drake death was brutal. King fu Kenny is a sadist
Somebody gotta change Charles stats for hating in the opening graphic. Just horrible takes.
Dune 2 is ok. It looks good, the soundtrack's great but aside from Javier Bardem and Zendaya, none of the performances made me think that these were real people. Timothée Chalamet was sleep-walking through both films and it hurt the films overall. It's a 6.5/10 to 7/10 film.
The only reason people think Dune is good is because no other good movies are being made. Most overrated franchise in a long time
Crazy take 😂
6:10 😂
House of the dragon season 2 is the Joker 2 of TV shows. Promises to be something so much more and gives nothing by the end of it,by the end you don't feel disappointment at that incompetence just disappointment.
Charles. Let’s do better, why on this predominantly black podcast we’re not watching black/tv films/tv series to highlight.
Bro Charles is full of shit, he’s got a super easy job watching media and he don’t even do his job. Lmao why even take him seriously
If Charles hates something, it's most definitely good.
I get the Charles being a troll bit but seriously at this point he’s simply not doing his job. He’s the person in your assigned college class group skating by doing the absolute least.
Not trying to glaze lol but the "if the baton ain't being passed to me then I'm gonna take it" was 🤌🏽. Loved that Monkey Man discussion! Excellent points all around!
Charles isn't really a film head, it feels like hes just there for meaningless banter within these convos. He's not bringing real and authentic vibes to the exercise and it's really annoying to watch this.
God... The levels of hatred I have for Charles is unhealthy. When I think that I couldn't dislike him more... He ups his game.
Charles loves being a contrarion
Giving opinions and he hasn’t even watched the shit? What. That’s simply unprofessional and a joke. SMH. Where’s the leadership around there to hold people accountable
I assume he expects whatever it is that got beau fired to come out and retroactively vindicate the ludicrous xmen ranking. However as a professional critic he *should* know that's not how art works. "Not for me" is not enough of an analysis when you are this far off consensus.
Denzel Washington is low key cringe and annoying when not on screen.