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Can't believe yall didn't remember Lil Saint's name smh

Not van asking what war war criminal 💀🤣

can you stream spotify video on a tv?

Charles: I hate flashbacks Also charles: I wanted a backstory of Jod

2:38 steve has been slowly pushing the envelope further and further with each episode

Ghosts of Heavy Spoilers is such a funny callback😂

The horse dies in the Swamp of Sadness.If that isn't a lesson for kids and adults I don't know what is.

I think moon knight would have been amazing if they would have showed the personality swap action and brutality. And not have the kaji construct battle not needed

i enjoyed skeleton crew. mainly for the mystery element.

37:44 Mask off moment for Discount Nerd Kanye, TMZ Gramps and their Wigga. Bon Chance.

It's only now that I'm older I REALLY TAKING IT IN... LITTLE FOOTS MOTHER in the Land Before Time. I know Mufasa gets a lot of love. BUT LITTLE FOOTS MOTHER IS OMG!

Steve got a bad habit of constantly interrupting Jomi ... Chill let your man cook.

The most shocking kid death in a movie is Ricky from Boyz In The Hood

If there’s a season 2 I think the Banking Clan should play a role as the villain. The Mist where the father killed his son was so messed up.

I don’t know why I’m not entertained by Daredevil ppl must like it because they keep bringing it back.

“Let’s see what war criminals are on these Nigerian bills” I spit my drink out, Van is diabolical 😂

And Van check out Emergency Awesome you’d really like how he breaks things down

I enjoyed daredevil season 3 over season 2. Better villan stories. Wasn't locked in on the Hand.

What the hell was wrong with Moonknight? The finale missed the mark but what was missing from the other episodes?

where is the wicked episode

No one believes you want anything to be good, Charles...

LoL, y'all believe me now when I tell you Charles is Tucker Carlson? hahahaha. Have fun, don't take him seriously

Jomi with the Nigerian drip🔥

That Kingpin and Matt Murdock scene in the trailer at the diner felt like exes talking that hadn’t seen each other in years

STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE SAID WE STANK!!!!!!! :O

Admittedly, in a weird way, I enjoyed Prophecy more than I have either of the films? That isn't to say that I would place Prophecy in competition with other series like HOTD for example, but I think a lot of this came down to me just really not finding Timothy Chalamet to be a particularly compelling actor, which completely tanks the films for me. Adore Rebecca Ferguson, but she doesn't have enough to do in those films, and while I think they tried to make Chani a more interesting character, this actually really undermines the relationship with Paul, for me. I don't believe that Chani would fall for this neurotic arsehole for as long as she does in the films, and that only gets elevated by my disbelief that Zendaya is falling for him in the first place (could be an acting thing, could just be a star text thing, idk). Either way, Jessica ends up the most interesting character in the films, but I weirdly get this feeling like the films are not enough interested in her (even if part 2 expands on her a bit more, it felt emotionally empty, oddly). While Prophecy has a whole slew of dud characters that I couldn't care less about (would tend to agree with Jo and Mal regarding all the palace characters, particularly Kieran, who felt like a somehow more-poorly-written Torrance Combs on The CW's Reign), the difference comes in that there are characters that I both find interesting in this series, *and the series validates that interest*. Tula is definitely key here, I am easily more invested in this character than literally anyone in the films. Olivia Williams is always a pleasure to watch, but combined with seamless transitions between her performance and Emma Canning (who I wasn't familiar with prior to this series), I felt like Tula was a dynamic character who both cleaves to conform to her sister's desires, while also seeking genuine freedom from her, and importantly, there are tangible emotional stakes to the tensions between those two poles that we get to see change her over the course of the six episodes (and between within the present and past timelines). This is in stark contrast to the film characters, who (again, perhaps in part because of acting, but also because of certain writing choices) feel remarkably static and deterministic, with Paul being the clearest example of this. I would echo the sentiments about Jessica Barden's young Valya being compelling as well, and I think in her performance she did a pretty solid job of planning out the emotional development, so that there was some emotional change over time, even if the writing itself didn't really emphasize that on its own. Great performance from here. Regret to say that I felt Emily Watson's performance felt flatter to me in comparison, which was unexpected. I think having more scenes between her and Theodosia (which would have much benefited the underdeveloped but interesting Theo as well!), would have given the older character some more levels. I also agree on Lila. Fabulous performance from Chloe Lea, who was compelling pretty much whenever she was on screen. This goes towards the love for Tula as well, in that good writing and good performances from both actors meant that each was able to enhance the value of the other. Jen was underdeveloped, but totally agree that of the acolytes, she was the one who I most had my eye on for further elaboration; the payoff has evidently been delayed for this character until next season, but I remain interested in seeing what her deal is. The other two that I would really call out are Jihae as Kasha and Tabu as Francesca. Both of these actors are so compelling to watch, and we get so frustratingly little of them, which makes little sense to me, given that they are part of this quad with Valya and Tula who ensure Valya's rise to power. I think what really needed to happen here in that the series should have started, say, a year or 2 prior to where it does. Instead of starting with Kasha's death, it should have ended with this. We should have spent this season focusing on this core group of four and their political machinations in palace, again, with Francesca in the palace from the beginning, instead of off somewhere else. This would have given us the time to invest in the past and presents of these characters, and ensured there were higher stakes for the eventual loss of both (Kasha at the end of S1, Francesca end of S2, assuming 6 ep seasons). We could have gotten a sense of their backgrounds and motivations (why are they so jazzed about the voice, instead of terrified, like normal people? how does this jive with the fact that Kasha dies of fear, and Francesca is even more of a softie than Tula, in the end? I'd have liked to have known). This would also have given us more time for better intrigue, as we could have stretched out the engagement period, spent more time with the Richeses and other dukes, and fleshed out some more of the acolytes as well. (Sidebar, while I don't dislike Jodhi May by any means, there is a part of me that really mourns the fact that the wonderful Indira Varma had to move on from this role. It would have been really cool to see her work with both Tabu and Sarah-Sophie Boussnina.) This would also have meant a much more staggered introduction to Desmond, which I think is very much needed. The desire to place Travis Fimmel front and center from the very beginning of the series necessarily shrank the timeline because the main "reveal" is entirely based around how long it will take Valya to send his DNA back to the ChatGPT X. Like... follow him around on Arakkis pre-worm a little bit to have some action scenes, by all means, but frankly, I think this would have worked far better if we either didn't see him at all in S1 and only heard rumours about him, or, if we got to see the worm eating, but lose pieces, and have a whole lot more mystery going into S2 about what/who has caused the burning. Like sure, there is the later reveal that it's not technically Desmond, it's a nanovirus, but I would have liked to see there be more obfuscation from the show around what's going on instead of them just coming out with the very first burning being "done" by Desmond. Delay that longer, develop more esoteric stuff that will draw our eye to Natalya and her ties to religion or something, idk? Bluntly, the way Fimmel is used in Prophecy made me think that HBO was concerned they wouldn't be able to keep the male audience interested if they focused on developing the female characters in S1 instead. On an entirely other note, I admit to being floored that, with all of the (we are agreed, very poorly done) sex scenes in this season, there is not a single lesbian in sight? Which isn't to say that every show requires queer representation at all, but it is frankly astonishing that in an HBO show that was supposed to be about a bunch of space witches/nuns who approach sex with men in such a utilitarian fashion is so... bizarrely heteronormative? It's a bit of a divergent choice for some of these modern adaptations of older fantasy series, in that Prime's Wheel of Time elevated the (largely) subtextual queerness of the Aes Sedai so visibly, and while Netflix's The Witcher has done a lot to cultivate queer subtext among the female mages at Aretuza (particularly between Yennefer and Tissaia), even while the only characters that are explicitly queer are the ones who were queer in the books and/or games. Heck, HOTD was always going to be gayer than Game of Thrones, but I think it is actually far gayer than a lot of the general audience even realize? Even characters who aren't queer are camp enough that they appeal to queer people. In contrast, *none* of the characters in this series read as queer, it is basically a sliding scale between straight (but, with the exception of Tula and Orry, completely lacking in chemistry; I believe Tabu's Francesca loves Javicco, but Mark Strong isn't selling the relationship anywhere near as well) and blank/asexual (I will say, the films also suffer from this same lack of eroticism in the way it depicts heterosexuality, which I had thought was due to a decision to cast Chalamet and Zendaya on star power instead of chemistry, and while that is definitely an issue in this series as well, the sheer number of pairings in which this happens is staggering to watch). This goes for the male characters as well: every single one of them who is of age, and who we spend any meaningful amount of time with (with the exception of the one we are supposed to see as a grasping wimp) has a sex scene with a female character in this series (Constantine, Kieran, Javicco, and Desmond, with bonus Orry, who has the most screen time and development of the minor male characters, even if it is just one episode). Again, I'm not saying anyone *needs* to be queer, it just feels unusual that a series dealing with the kinds of issues this one does has none in sight. Anyway, tldr; Prophecy made me care about more of its characters than either of the Dune films did, *despite* the extent to which it underdeveloped and/or botched various parts of its narrative, leaving me much more excited for a S2 of the show than I am about what I can only assume is going to be another slog through Messiah.

now where's the wicked episode?

Haven't watched the episode yet, but I'm gonna call it early and say Charles hated the Daredevil trailer. Let's see if I'm right

Thank God for the time stamp, so I could skip past all that kiddie Star Wars bullshit.

Glad to see the boys safe and sound and back better than ever. 🎉

Even Charles shouldn’t say anything bad about the Daredevil trailer…

What it do fam!!!

Van please continue to put the pressure on everyone. Keep em on their toes. Its better for the pod

@ 6:15. He knows Exactly why. He just does not want to prove his point. I even know that Japanese culture has many many spirits and ghosts as part of day to day life.

IWTV is such a good show! Happy to see more people enjoying it.

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I would love to hear their take on a Black Panther fan casting

If every show you watch, you have to analyze it in how it fits in the greater echo system of fandom and that hinders your from enjoying whats in front of you, you are too fucking jaded and you need to go outside and get some fresh air. Message to you Charles.

Levar Burton as Bilbo.

The funny thing about Charles involvement on this podcast is the way he feels about 95% of the shit y’all cover is the same way 95% of y’all’s audience feels about him

8:12 Arkansas shoutout!!!

While I understand Van’s analogy of SW being comfort food, I think that’s not how Charles is viewing it. Charles is viewing it as a franchise of the same restaurant to which he had an amazing experience. If he goes to a different location and the food and service isn’t the same, he’s frustrated because he knows the POTENTIAL of the dining experience at this hypothetical restaurant because of what he first experienced. He’s comparing SW to itself.

All this discourse is for sure the ultimate argument lol. Supes has never been my guy, but the new trailer makes him absolutley awesome.

Charles is a deeply unserious person.

i NEED a full rendition of defying gravity from van

Once a year, there should be an episode where you guys cook Charles for all BS. A Midnight Roast or Roasting

Charles is a joke.

The fact they are talking about recasting I think we will get tchalla named dropped or post credit in fan4 calling it now. It won't be the son either

Van - you killed me with the Body By Jake reveal OMG 🤯🤯🤯