Hi Wardy, another great vid mate. I moved to Weipa in November and hope we can catch up some time. I work with Sam in the shopping centre. Cheers mate. Tight lines 👍
Great vid and well explained, As a ex pro line fishermen for many many years and a charter operator as well I never took any notice of it the Barometer, But I did follow the tide and tide changes,
Gday Wardy very interesting and enjoyed that - can the barometer rise and fall quickly so it’s all over the place? I imagine that if the barometer is low and has been for a while the fish can adjust but what happens if the barometer is constantly rising then falling multiple times a day?
G'day Rich. There is no doubt that a stable barometer is better for fishing but I still don't think that the fish are uncomfortable with a shifting barometer. They just find a comfortable depth to sit. Bottom dwellers don't need a swim bladder to control the depth they sit at because they stick tight to the bottom anyway. I think the other variables like wind, current, water clarity and changes to the conditions makes it a bit harder to fish and fish are a little harder to catch. But Mi doing really well at the moment and the monsoon trough is playing havoc with the barometer up my way. What are your thoughts? Have you found the barometer is a big factor in your fishing?
G'day wcoutts. I fish light and slow when the fish are not aggressive so that is a great way to fish. I always fish lighter than most anyway. But I wouldn't worry about going too deep on a low barometer. The fish school up and rest at different depths but I am not convinced that it has anything to do with the atmospheric pressure. I learnt about fishing depth when I was chasing bass in dams. I'd fish massive dams and the bass at one end of the dam would be schooling at 8mtrs and I'd travel to the opposite end of the dam, often 20lkms away, and the bass would be schooling at the exact same depth. A week later, they would all be happy to sit in only 5mtrs of water. But then a flathead would be happy to move into 30cms of water at the top of the tide and fall into a 3mtr hole at the bottom of the tide. It is just my opinion after a lifetime of fishing but I can't see depth and water pressure being a major factor. They just go where its comfortable for them when they aren't feeding. But when active, if they rise a metre off the bottom to take a lure, they just experienced a greater pressure change then we would ever experience out of the water. Makes you think doesn't it?
G'day Greg. The theory is that a drop in atmospheric pressure will cause the buoyancy of the fish to fall deeper in the water column. Therefore, for the fish to maintain the level it was floating at, it will need to build up some gas to increase the size of the swim bladder. The point of this video is that a simple movement of only a few cms up or down the water column, will cancel out any changes in atmospheric pressure. So I don't really think it is a major issue. There may be other reason why fish don't bite as well on a low barometer but I filmed that entire video with the barometer as low as it can get in Weipa without it causing too much wind for fishing to be shut down. And as you can see, the fish still bite.
Lower pressure means less weight of atmosphere above you so the fish will need less gas in its swim bladder, it can go deeper in the water column to adjust but I find if you fish shallow in those conditions everything not deep is active. The creek here is only 6ft deep so we predominantly fish 1013 and dropping if we can.
@@Kangawallafox I find the same thing too Greg. Shallow fish are less effected for sure. I remember reading that shallow water fish such as some species of mullet and whiting, have smaller swim bladders as well. The fish with the large swim bladders are affected because there is less pressure on their bladder so when there is not as much pressure squeezing it, it will expand. As the bladders expand, the fish start to become uncomfortable so they try to relieve the discomfort by absorbing more gas or they simply move lower in the water. In the water bottle experiment that I did, you see that the match head floats higher under less pressure. I think this has the biggest effect on the fish. As it starts to rise in the water due to low pressure, the bladder has even less pressure on it so it expends even more, which again, makes it float even higher. The fish will simply more to where ever is comfortable until the gas balances out. I hope that makes sense. That is how I understand it anyway.
@@wardysfishing9403 i chase murray cod, I find they adjust almost instantly. I run big baits and meet them out hunting on those drops, when the pressure is higher I have to hit the banks and structure for a reaction. Those drops from 1013 or a bit lower are the only time I've got them in the open.
@@Kangawallafox Yeah it is super interesting. The barra dont care at all. The ass will be out of the barometer and they will still bite. As you can see at the end of the video, I land a cracking barra. I know that settled weather is best for fishing in general but it's not a deal breaker by any stretch of the imagination. Thanks for the feedback Greg. Always interesting and I am always learning.
Very informative Wardy.
Thanks mate.
Great video mate! I also agree fish can be quite a tive with low barometer.
Mate... Whats the length of that rod? Looks sooooo good! I would love to know 😊
Thanks for the explanation Wardy , another great vid mate cheers.
Thanks mate. Glad you enjoyed it.
Another Great explanation 👍🏼
Thanks mate.
Hi Wardy, another great vid mate. I moved to Weipa in November and hope we can catch up some time. I work with Sam in the shopping centre. Cheers mate. Tight lines 👍
G'day Ian. Lets catch up and have a yarn about fishing. I am working in Cairns this week but am back next Monday. Chat soon. Wardy
Great vid and well explained, As a ex pro line fishermen for many many years and a charter operator as well I never took any notice of it the Barometer, But I did follow the tide and tide changes,
Absolutely. Smart man Craig.
Gday Wardy very interesting and enjoyed that - can the barometer rise and fall quickly so it’s all over the place? I imagine that if the barometer is low and has been for a while the fish can adjust but what happens if the barometer is constantly rising then falling multiple times a day?
G'day Rich. There is no doubt that a stable barometer is better for fishing but I still don't think that the fish are uncomfortable with a shifting barometer. They just find a comfortable depth to sit. Bottom dwellers don't need a swim bladder to control the depth they sit at because they stick tight to the bottom anyway. I think the other variables like wind, current, water clarity and changes to the conditions makes it a bit harder to fish and fish are a little harder to catch. But Mi doing really well at the moment and the monsoon trough is playing havoc with the barometer up my way.
What are your thoughts? Have you found the barometer is a big factor in your fishing?
So in theory during a low barometer if you fished lighter and slower in deeper waters you would be able to produce more fish?
G'day wcoutts. I fish light and slow when the fish are not aggressive so that is a great way to fish. I always fish lighter than most anyway. But I wouldn't worry about going too deep on a low barometer. The fish school up and rest at different depths but I am not convinced that it has anything to do with the atmospheric pressure. I learnt about fishing depth when I was chasing bass in dams. I'd fish massive dams and the bass at one end of the dam would be schooling at 8mtrs and I'd travel to the opposite end of the dam, often 20lkms away, and the bass would be schooling at the exact same depth. A week later, they would all be happy to sit in only 5mtrs of water.
But then a flathead would be happy to move into 30cms of water at the top of the tide and fall into a 3mtr hole at the bottom of the tide. It is just my opinion after a lifetime of fishing but I can't see depth and water pressure being a major factor. They just go where its comfortable for them when they aren't feeding. But when active, if they rise a metre off the bottom to take a lure, they just experienced a greater pressure change then we would ever experience out of the water. Makes you think doesn't it?
@@wardysfishing9403 Thankyou for your answer! It definitely does get you thinking, but it makes a lot of sense
Why does the low barometer increase the swim bladder size, I picture it needing less gas for bouyancy under low pressure rather then high pressure?
G'day Greg. The theory is that a drop in atmospheric pressure will cause the buoyancy of the fish to fall deeper in the water column. Therefore, for the fish to maintain the level it was floating at, it will need to build up some gas to increase the size of the swim bladder.
The point of this video is that a simple movement of only a few cms up or down the water column, will cancel out any changes in atmospheric pressure. So I don't really think it is a major issue. There may be other reason why fish don't bite as well on a low barometer but I filmed that entire video with the barometer as low as it can get in Weipa without it causing too much wind for fishing to be shut down. And as you can see, the fish still bite.
Lower pressure means less weight of atmosphere above you so the fish will need less gas in its swim bladder, it can go deeper in the water column to adjust but I find if you fish shallow in those conditions everything not deep is active. The creek here is only 6ft deep so we predominantly fish 1013 and dropping if we can.
@@Kangawallafox I find the same thing too Greg. Shallow fish are less effected for sure. I remember reading that shallow water fish such as some species of mullet and whiting, have smaller swim bladders as well.
The fish with the large swim bladders are affected because there is less pressure on their bladder so when there is not as much pressure squeezing it, it will expand. As the bladders expand, the fish start to become uncomfortable so they try to relieve the discomfort by absorbing more gas or they simply move lower in the water.
In the water bottle experiment that I did, you see that the match head floats higher under less pressure. I think this has the biggest effect on the fish. As it starts to rise in the water due to low pressure, the bladder has even less pressure on it so it expends even more, which again, makes it float even higher. The fish will simply more to where ever is comfortable until the gas balances out.
I hope that makes sense. That is how I understand it anyway.
@@wardysfishing9403 i chase murray cod, I find they adjust almost instantly. I run big baits and meet them out hunting on those drops, when the pressure is higher I have to hit the banks and structure for a reaction. Those drops from 1013 or a bit lower are the only time I've got them in the open.
@@Kangawallafox Yeah it is super interesting. The barra dont care at all. The ass will be out of the barometer and they will still bite. As you can see at the end of the video, I land a cracking barra. I know that settled weather is best for fishing in general but it's not a deal breaker by any stretch of the imagination.
Thanks for the feedback Greg. Always interesting and I am always learning.
Mmm.