CES Projector News - Every New Projector at CES 2024
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
- I just got back from CES 2024 and I've got all the latest news about projectors to be released in 2024.
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00:00 Lifestyle Projectors
00:14 Nexigo TriVision Ultra
00:59 XGIMI Horizon Max
02:10 Dangbei Mars Pro 2
02:47 Dangbei X5 Ultra
03:08 Hisense C2
03:28 Single LCD Projectors
03:40 Yaber K4
03:51 Yaber K3
04:10 Formovie XMing Page One
04:28 XMing Episode One
04:47 Wanbo DaVinci 1
05:05 Portable Projectors - LG Qube
05:31 Dangbei Atom
05:52 Yaber T2S
06:12 Hisense Barco Bright
06:56 Hisense Mystery PX3
07:11 Hisense Floor Rising Fresnel
07:28 AWOL Wireless Home Theater 
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Amazing job covering everything so quickly and succinctly! Looking forward to your next round of reviews as always.
Thanks for the vid! Was hoping there would be more UST news, but seems the focus of the manufacturers is more on portable / lifestyle projectors
Qué alegría ver proyectores que aún apuestan por el 3d y que han desarrollado el uso de los speakers nativos dentro de la configuración de los home theaters. Excelente reportaje. Saludos.
It seems to be bad year for projectors market in terms of development. How long we have to wait for UST projectors with native contrast of 5000:1, native 4K and reasonable price? There is some magical black hole between DLP and LCoS waiting to be filled! Texas Instruments could get down to business.
It's good that at least a floor-rising fresnel was presented, that's something.
I predict 10+ years before we see native 4K at a reasonable price. There isn't even a 4K DLP currently available, there is one rumored to exist that is 0.94" from TI, but it will only be used for 8k pixel shifters and will probably cost $1000+ just for the chip itself wholesale.
I think your expectations are slightly unreasonable, those things don't even exist in the traditional projector market at a reasonable price, and you want them in UST?
Your expectations are absolutely unreasonable, you're insane!
How are affordable devices supposed to reach a 5000:1 contrast ratio, while we see, that 2000:1 is already a gamechanger within lifestyle projectors.
Buy a fkn TV... 🤦🏻♂️
@@TheHookUplol, sry, didn't read your message, mine sound like a copy now 😂
Thanks for this update on CES 2024. It is always fun to watch all the things you cover with detailed specs and real life applications of the product. I love the way you explain and review projectors with data and personal viewing experiance. I follow all your videos regarding projectors. If possible could you please review wanbo x5/pro, wanbo TT or any of the Wanbo projector you could suggest. I could see the company has resonably priced projector with good specs.
Yes! I was waiting for video from you 😂
Great coverage! You sure know your projectors
anticipating your projector reviews for 2024!
That is the video i was waiting for!
Incredible! I was waiting for your video for this year's CES, too! I've been on the market for a compact, portable projector and wanted to see if Nebula, Formovie, or Wemax were updating their models are CES before making a decision. I didn't know about Dangbei but the atom looks pretty good! Looking forward to your review for it, especially since ANSI lumens and battery were not mentioned here 😁
1200 ANSI lumens on the Atom, no battery.
Thanks for the clarification. You're right, the video mentioned 1200 ANSI Lumens and I got confused after reading on their website 1200 ISO Lumens! Shame about the battery, as I was looking for an all in 1 travel solution like the wemax advanced or nebula capsule but was hoping someone would get out a compact, battery powered model with wemax's brightness and capsule-like or S5-like integrated sound
Awesome coverage!
Thanks Sir ❤
Great reporting from ces
Rob,
Hope you had a great time at the show. Those projectors look very promising.
First impressions:
1. Did you visually notice any improvement on the contrast on the XGIMI projectors especially the Ultra-X5.
2. Any improved picture quality in the Dangbei units using ALDP 5.0 technology.
3. Any feed back from Hisense or Formovie for why they dont include 3D mode.
Can wait for this years breakdowns!
The new XGIMI Horizon Max had MUCH better contrast and black levels than the Horizon Ultra. Dangbei X5 and Nexigo TriVision UItra (ALPD 5.0) had much lower contrast, and worse black levels, but I know that Nexigo is actively working on that issue from a software/firmware side before release.
As for 3D, yes I asked about it. It seems like the 2 main issues are 1) extra cost, which is probably equivalent to around $50 in parts/processing 2) certification issues with androidTV devices, and we should see that issue go away with googleTV which is supposed to more easily support 3D.
@@TheHookUp Oops. I just noticed from your response that I mixed the names up. But you picked up on my goof. That Horizon Max looks like a winner ,although I dont care much for the choice of the retro look. Looks like XGIMI improved upon the MCL triple laser speckle issues ,where JMGO stumbled, by combining triple LED with their Dual Light 2.0 design. Very exciting. Must have been a thrill for you to have seen it up close. Thanks so much for the inquiries on the 3D. Looking forward to this years reviews. Thanks Buddy!
Rob, Your reviews are excellent. I am on the projector merry go round right now. My Optoma had terrible flicker issues so I bought the Horizon Pro. It arrived in used condition and will not integrate with my Harmony remote. Black levels were average. Returned to Amazon
.Ordered the BenQ 2060 but it is way too loud and zoom range wasn’t good enough for my room. Better black levels though. Returned to Amazon. I’ve just ordered the Horizon 1080P which will probably have to do for now, because I don’t know of any current projectors that are quiet enough with good enough image quality for my room, other than the XGIMI….thoughts? looking forward to your upcoming reviews!
Dangbei Mars Pro and Formovie X5 are both absolutely phenomenal for the price.
Thanks Rob.
I'm really looking forward to your review of the XGIMI RS10 ultra, only you can do it as deeply and correctly as possible.
Thanks so much for covering Dangbei upcoming projectors! Awesome video!💪🙌
Looking forward to that Hisense screen. :)
Me too!
well done!
Amazing source on projectors. Thank you for you jib! || But could anyone suggest just as useful source for Audio part of Home Cinema, reviewing Acoustics and AV receivers or AV processors and amps?
Ive been looking for a projector that’s under 200 that isn’t bad at focusing. I would have to have it tilted up. Which would be the one you recommend?
Which projector would you recommend jmgo n1 pro or benq gp500 as both are available on same price of $999 or would you suggest any other model?
Groan. Again. I'd love to know what the markup is on 4k projectors. We reached a point ages ago of diminishing returns, so I'd really love to know what justification there is for paying $3k now for an xgimi.
Great to meet you at CES! Which of these projectors are you putting in your golf sim?
I already upgraded to the Mac Daddy in my golf sim (BENQ LK936ST)
Any decent budget (200-300eur with vat) 1080p projectors with relatively low input delay (10-20ms)? Bought a hy300 (42eur is still a steal) for shits and gigles, but that let me down on HDMI and miracast input delay.
I've been saving for Hisense C1, almost there. But now the question is if some of these new ones is better choice at same or close the same price range of ~2000€?
I have a question should I get the groview or the happrun h1
Plz include the Phillips Neopix line up and vankyo v700w in ur upcoming comparison video
I am thinking of buying the dangbei mars pro, but After watching horizon max dangbei mars 2 pro, should i wait? How better do you think the horizon max or mars pro 2 was to current mars pro variant. I would love if you would reply please it's my first comment on your vids.
Looking forward to the Xgimi horizon max review ;-) . Currently testing the Horizon Ultra but i think the horizon Max wil bring more to the table .
I'm looking forward to it as well! It looked very impressive in the booth.
@@TheHookUp Cant wait for your review on that one. I like the concept the Horizon Ultra design, but I could not pull the trigger on it due to those contrast issues that you reported. Hopefully XGIMI does better with the Max. But from their CES commentary, it looks like the "Max" improvements will come at a steeper premium.
cool stuff
Great content, but I'm still torn about what to go with in the spring for a projector i can bring out to my patio or use inside occasionally. If i have around a 2k budget, is there one you recommend?
If you don't want it until the spring I'd wait for the next round of reviews with the Mars Pro 2.
Great guy love your content,
the nexigo pro UST projectors has great one and bad one how do I know what's the good one ?
Aurora Pro (PJ92) is their high performing triple laser. Aurora (PJ90) is their single laser. I wouldn't say the Aurora is bad, it competes well at the $1600 price point.
I'm surprised no new small ultra short throws like the discontinued Philips Screeno U4. I assume no improvements are being made to a product like this?
❤ Nice..I am hoping someone can do reviews on best buy of cheaper projectors $200 and under for low income. Actually, $200 is to much. Prob need to sets $100 and under as well. I bought one for outdoor viewing but it did need to be super dark. Thank you for all you do.
I do that exact video every year: ruclips.net/video/ooFvyudbxNE/видео.html
Great video Rob! I know you haven't had a chance to compare them side by side, but going by memory, how does the Xgimi Horizon Max compare to the Hisense C1 in terms of sharpness, contrast, and black levels? Does it look better or worse from first impressions?
Kind of impossible to know without seeing them in the same type of environment, but the Horizon Max seemed very good.
Does anyone know the latency for the x5 ultra? I don't find it written ANYWHERE.
I was going to wait for your review but I bought the dangbei d-box02 I'm pretty happy with it. the new xgmi 2024 was the other I am interested in
dbox02 is a nice upgrade over the Mars Pro. Google TV and a few extra lumens, same raised black floor though. The new XGIMI isn't going to be in the same price point though.
@@TheHookUp Yes big reason I did not wait when I heard that around $3,000 price point
Thanks for the sneak peak at what’s coming down the projector pipeline! Do you know when the Hisense Fresnel floor rising screen will be available? And if so, can it be purchased independently from the Hisense projectors?
Unfortunately no, to be honest the people at the Hisense booth knew almost nothing about their products, it was very disappointing.
@@TheHookUp I've had that experience also. These are supposed to be a dog and pony show for new products and these companies should have their most knowledgeable representatives present. That is not a good look for any company.
I used to work for an AV systems installer, and always wanted to see a ceiling-mount projector with anti-vibration built into the lens. We have this in our phones, why not projectors? Most ceilings are the bottoms of floors after all!
Finally, the video! ))) Any details on AWOL wireless theater?
No pricing, June/July 2024 release. The prototype is working but they need to add the menus/firmware to the projector to be able to tune the speakers to your room and adjust audio sync.
Thanks! Will wait a bit )
Have you been able to get your hands on the benQ x3100. I'm curious to see how it will do against other recent released units
I'll be doing a "gaming focused" projector video in April, I'll have the x3100i in that video.
I use an older Optoma model that is ceiling mounted (UHD550x). I miss the contrast of new oled or mini led screens. Not only do the highlights not 'pop' as much the black levels on this particular Optoma projector aren't that amazing. Is there a projector out there that doesn't cost 5k that is a meaningful upgrade? Maybe there is something on the used market to look out for when new products release and the wealthiest of us replace their last gen equipment...
Edit: before I first noticed your channel I watched a few recommended videos by big tech RUclipsrs about the Xgimi Horizon Ultra. I was totally convinced that this is the best projector to buy under 2k. Now that I watched a few of your videos I am not so sure. I don't need a small form factor but the Hisense c1 looks like one lf the best projectors out there. I still don't know if a 'full sized' ceiling mounted one yields any meaningful improvement over the c1. Since I am watching at 135" gain 1.0 it's not an easy task for a projector I suppose.
Hi there, and thank you for the absolute top quality content and reviews!
Did you hear anything about input lag on the Xgimi Horizon Max?
Did you notice if the they fixed the darkness issues, which you experienced with the Xgimi Horizon Ultra?
Tho expensive, this one really seems to have it all, doesnt it?
XGIMI has been able to get to 17ms of input lag before, so I expect the same on the Max, but no official word yet. Black levels were significantly better on the Max than the Ultra.
@@TheHookUp wow, that a fast response time you got there! Thanks a lot!
That really seemed to be the two negatives on the ultra, so this one really does seem to have it all.
Nice video, an info about those 8K projectors or maybe something that might do 4K120Hz for us gamers :D
8K Projection is still vaporware. Hisense had the same prototype out, Samsung's was just a press release.
There is a rumor that TI will release a new 0.94" DMD this year that is native 4K, that will be a game changer if it makes its way into projectors.
Is it true vudu doesnt allow hdx or uhd on their projector apps? If so another good reason to use a fire tv stick.
I wouldn't be surprised if that is the case with older androidTV projectors, but googleTV should solve that issue.
Any project recommendations under 800, to be used indoors in Moderate daylight and has smart tv features. Basically a replacement for tv
February 15th I'll be putting out a video on the $200-600 price range.
How come no mention of the JMGO O2 Ultra in your commentary ? It has such amazing specs considering its msrp ?
Are you planning on reviewing it at some time soon ?
Lots of reasons I suppose:
1. JMGO was not at CES and this is a CES video
2. I speak with JMGO from time to time via email and they've never mentioned the O2 Ultra, only the N1S and N1S Ultra recently.
3. O2 Ultra will likely never get an international release.
I was hoping for more coverage of the XMing V1 Ultra. Any impressions from it's first in the world native 4k LCD imager?
From what I heard there's no immediate plans to release it internationally. I have the Paris Rhone 4K single LCD projector on my desk right now and it will be in my Feb 16th video on $200-600 price range projectors.
In your experience, which is a reasonably priced laser projector employing native 4k without DLP?
Thank you for your work.
It depends what you mean by "native 4K", if you mean 4K without pixel shifting your only options are Sony and JVC LCoS. If you mean that they can output true 4K by whatever means necessary then Epson LS11000 is the most reasonably priced non-DLP 4K Laser.
@@TheHookUp thank you yes that is what I meant cheers
Am hesitating between bend 4550i vs formovie theatre what would u choose?
In my personal opinion there is zero reason to buy a Formovie theater right now. The Nexigo Aurora Pro is an upgraded Formovie Theater with the same light engine, and same lens, but an upgraded chip that allows for dynamic black mode... and the Nexigo costs $200 less: amzn.to/3UlvdRc
That said, choosing between a traditional throw and ust projector is a much more clear cut choice. If you are planning on using a UST specific ALR screen then a UST like the Nexigo or Formovie will outperform the 4550i, but if you are planning on a white screen, a non tensioned screen, or projecting onto a wall the 4550i is the way to go.
yeah so.... i'm so excited for the upcoming reviews I created a new yt account so i could subscribe all over again.... I... can't.... wait !!!
Is it good for a well-lit room?
Any chance of a video or even a quick recommendation on a projector around 500-600 price point? You have cheap and expensive, but that middle ground is missing. Ideal price point to replace a tv on a standar living room. Amazing videos by the way
My February 15th video will be on the $200-600 price range.
@@TheHookUp thanks mate ,will it include wanbo x5 or mozart 1? I'm considering one of them.
Was Samsung not attended on CES 24 with UST projectors?
I read that they will replace their current LSP7T and LSP9T with the new Premiere 7 and Premiere 9, any information about that?
Did you also see the Premiere 8K UST projector with the Wireless One Connect Box, if so, what was your impression?
As a Belgian, i hope that Barco will develop and producing their own UST projectors with all the blows and whistles, like they do now with their 'Residential' range, but with more reasonable prices.
It was just a press release, they were not at the conference with their lineup.
@@TheHookUp Ah, thanks.
Hoping for some more great 3D options! The awol is still overpriced but if we can get a 2500 lumen 3D UST below 2K USD it will be killer
Any projector look as good as an Oled ? Or do you think we’re still far from that kind of technology?
In what sense? I don't think looking like an OLED is a goal of projectors. If you mean can they achieve the same peak brightness and dynamic contrast the answer would be no.
Dust. Is it short-throws hitch? Superb edit btw
Dust is really only an issue for projectors that have unsealed light engines (inexpensive single LCD projectors).
How are LED video walls doing price wise? Would love to skip projectors and go straight to them but probably not yet, eh?
LED video walls are still over $50,000 from all I have heard for any sort of quality. The single panel micro LED TCL television, at 115" diagonal will be price competitive and looks quite good from the Linus Tech Tips video about it. Maybe under $10,000. Not affordable, but compared to LED video walls, it's pretty significant.
Yeah, for people who are currently using fixed frame screens the new TCL TVs are going to be pretty tough to beat. I personally use mostly dropdown/floor rising screens, so a TV or video wall isn't competitive. As far as LED video walls replacing TVs, the key is you need to sit pretty far away from them since their pixel density is still very bad compared to a TV or projector.
Still 100s of thousands.
Hi i have question( i see your video and i think you are the best person for ask). I want buy small/smart projector i have 2 model in mind.
Xgimi elfin mini
Nebula anker mars 3 air.
What you think is the best? You have advice? ( The budget is same only 30£ different).
And one nice( not too expensive) base where can i project ?
Appreciate your Help
I haven't personally reviewed either of those projectors, so I can't give you a good recommendation. However, the Mars 3 Air is about 3 years "newer".
@@TheHookUpa appreciate your help
That floor-rising Fresnel system is really neat, but with young kids (and accident-prone adults), I think I'll stick to traditional ceiling-mount projection and drop-down screens. Just curious - are there any projectors that have ad-free user interfaces? Google/Android TV could have been the chose one, but they have ruined the experience by injecting so many ads, many of which are inappropriate for (my) kids. Even the Nvidia Shield updates betrayed me.
You mean in the banners? or are you talking about actual ads?
@@TheHookUp Banner ads/menu ads with no means to remove (outside of custom launchers/hacks). The devices that seem to get close are Roku devices where you can actually remove UI ads and channels. The only downside to Roku sticks are that they don't always perform as well for Plex as Fire TV devices and aren't always compatible with certain AVR/display setups. I think my expectations are just too high: no ads + supported streaming apps + flawless Plex playback.
Did you get to see the new reolink stuff? Will you do a review on the Duo 3?
Yeah, the new Reolink stuff looks great, I have a Duo 3 sitting on my desk but I haven't hooked it up yet.
@@TheHookUp awesome! I will be waiting for the review!
Really looking forward to the Nexigo Trivision. I guess Hisense saw the competition and can't compete so they decided not to show specs 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm definitely interested in the yaber products and what their prices end up being.
i've had my Yaber Y21 for years and it still performs great for less than $250. I believe that's is what I paid for it. Probably won't go up very much
@@Dano420, Yeah these budget yabers seem to be all I'm looking for and have good write ups. Just gotta wait for these new ones to come out.
Off topic question but what movie was playing on the XMing V1 Ultra at 4:43?
I think it was the trailer for the 2nd part of Dune.
Oh, interesting. Thanks.
Did you see the Samsung Ballie? It should be the game changer of "smart projector!
I did, it looks pretty dumb to me. A solution looking for a problem that will cause dozens more problems.
Re-watching the video, I am wondering if anything you showed will be below 1000$
@TheHookUp i was watching your reviews and I have to say awsome job and thank you!
What I think is missing from the projector reviews is the ultra portable/pocket projector category.
The portable projector category that you have, well you dont fit most of them for example in your laptop bag.
What i would like to see is a comparison of something like these (and probably many others that i am not familiar with):
Weemax go advanced
Formovie p1
Philips picopix max
Xgimi elfin
Asus zenbeam E2
Fatork mini
I hope this is something you will add to your channel :).
Wemax go advanced is in several of my videos and is the one I recommend for exactly that purpose (laptop bag). Formovie P1 is the same as the Wemax go (non advanced), and is significantly too low resolution to be worth while. I haven't tested the others on that list, but I do have an Elfin that it supposed to be arriving today.
@@TheHookUp Maybe the Aaxa M7 would be on bar with those 2? But other than that I really cant find any other competition in that size.
@@TheHookUp Yes I saw the Wemax in your videos, but it was always compared to the less portable projectors, thats why the sugestion/thought.
@@TheHookUp looking into the philips, on paper it is a monster. Boasting a whopping 850ANSI, dlp, android built in, 10000:1 contrast and so on, all that while being one of the smallest. This little giant should definitely get you attention.
@@TmRpH Website says it's discontinued.
почему до сих пор нигде нет type-c\thunderbolt?🤔
Been waiting for this one. Man, Chinese companies are taking over everything!
As long as they produce great products. After all, America chose to give the tech manufacturing sector away.
Rob,
I very much appreciate your inquiring about the 3D mode information. Did I correctly gather from your response and the information in this video that, you were told by XGIMI (or whomever) that the new crop of projectors like the Horizon Max which contain Google TV as its controlling OS , will handle the processing of 3D streaming rather than relying on a proprietary 3D processing implementation by the projector manufacturer?
FYI: If that's the case, With respect to the feedback that you were given by XGIMI (or whomever) , my curiosity about this OS facility lead me to contact Google support for more information. They claim no such facility exists to support 3D stream processing thru their GoogleTV OS i.e joining the top/bottom , side-by-side streamed images.
If that were possible It would certainly be a welcome feature rather than waiting on implementations from reluctant device manufacturers
Thanks again
They did not go into that much detail.
Which of these projectors were NATIVE 4k? (Not DLP or shifting technology)
4K native DLP chips do not exist, the only native 4K projectors on the market are LCoS.
It was hard to tell which projectors used which technology in the video. Thats why I asked which used native tech. I assume most of them if not all were DLP.@@TheHookUp
Thanks. Good to know what's coming as i an looking for a new 4k gaming projector
I'll be doing a gaming projector specific video in April.
What sort of HDR performance does a high end cinema get and what would it cost to replicate that at home on a 120" screen? Would it even get close to HDR from a good TV?
That's kind of a loaded question. HDR can mean a lot of things.
1) If you mean color space coverage, tri-laser projectors have wider color space coverage than TVs and can often exceed 100% of the DCI-P3 color space.
2) If you mean peak brightness, a projector is almost always going to have less peak brightness than a TV. For HDR content, some is mastered with a peak brightness of 1000nits, so a projector isn't going to get close to that, but in a dark room (like a projector is designed for), your eyes will adjust and HDR content can be successfully tone mapped onto a ~150-200nit screen. Most movie theater screens are around 50 nits.
A 120" TV is massive and would likely have huge issues with brightness uniformity that you wouldn't have with a projector. $5000 is a reasonable spend to get a 120" projector and screen with a movie theater like performance, but you could certainly spend in the $30-40k range for the highest end equipment.
@@TheHookUp Thanks for the brilliant reply. I'm planning to make a cinema room which will have controlled lighting, so peak brightness is less important than dynamic range, I want to go with a projector for the cinema like experience, but worry that I will miss out on dynamic range if I don't settle for a TV. You've reassured me that great colour range is achievable.
Absolutely. In a dark room a projector can't be beat.
Seems like a lack of UST news. Projector screen mentioned there would be great announcements there - looks like it was just wishful thinking.
Samsung projection was absent from CES, it was just a press release about new USTs. It's interesting that projectorscreen.com said that the "FORMOVIE 4K MAX" would be in the US in spring 2024, because when I asked Brian (from projectorscreen.com) about it, he said it would not be coming to the US.
I just bought the Wanbo Davinci 1pro it's no where near to 600 Lumens. It's more a 300 Lumen Projector 😉like all Wanbo projectors it's about half of the official declaration
That was unfortunately also my experience
I've had a terrible time with Yaber "brown spot". Other than that, they're great.
Which version? Brown spots are almost always caused by burns in the polarizing layer, but the cause of those burns is usually dust buildup. The fully sealed light engines should fare much better.
Hi !
I'm waiting waiting waiting for u.........and at last !.... First of all - they disapoint me ! All of them ! I don’t understand , Eighter they're tired and bored to making projectors or my expectations is too much high....
Well... Watching your video seems only one projector u like - Xgimi horizon max... What do u think ? Xgimi horizon max can beat BenQ HT 4550i or Hisense c2 ?
Thanks.
I haven't seen them together, but I would guess the horizon max will significantly outperform the HT4550i. As for the C2, no clue, I actually think the projectors at the show were C1's that were placeholders for whatever the C2 will be.
@@TheHookUp - Thanks.
.......aaaaaaaand I'm still waiting for your next Video...
@@TheHookUp TheGood: If you believe that the Horizon Max will outperform the 4550i , thats quite an endorsement.😀
The Bad: You've likely moved my projector purchase back 6 months, and pushed my lifestyle projector purchase budget up to $2500.😪
CHIQ-laser projector B7U USD$ 13613.12, good morning, I am writing to you from the Dominican Republic and I am a follower of yours, I like all your fine and expert comments. I am going to buy a UST projector, I am from a lower middle class and I was looking at that model and I am going to add another one, Jenovox-B7U Pro laser projector usd$1591.45 you know them. Cesar Russo ,thank you
Just what is it with some, not all of these manufacturers who will introduce a new and interesting product, and not bother to give consumers pertinent information about it? In other words, they will show you the icing, but won't give you a slice of the cake.
Wait ...CVIA Lumens have higher value than ANSI?
CVIA lumens have a more strict set of standards for measurement. ANSI lumens can sometimes be "cheated" but CVIA lumens seem to be harder to fake.
Big mini LEd TV of110 inches will take a big market share over projector in a very few years
I agree, but there are three reasons projectors will still exist and have a decent market share:
1) Floor rising/drop down screens: 110" is huge, so dedicating wall space to a screen that large even when the TV is off is not desirable for everyone. People who are currently using fixed frame projector screens may prefer a TV though.
2) Eye fatigue: If you've ever watched a large 85"+ TV for more than a couple hours, the bright emissive display can cause eye fatigue, a projector's reflective light is much easier to watch for longer periods of time.
3) Cinematic effect: Home theater enthusiasts generally prefer the more cinematic feel of a projector over a large scale TV.
I am wondering if formovie are going to release the X5 in europe or US
Already released in both the US and UK, do you mean whether it will get a different OS? My sources say no.
@@TheHookUp Is quite hard to get it here in Sweden, I thought they might release it with another OS and make it more easily available. Thanks for the answer!
Have you tried nothing projector? nothingprojector.com/products/fengmi-formovie-x5-master-series-4k-alpd-laser-projector-2450-cvia-lumens?sca_ref=3620108.hsnq5IqCkS
Are these all short throw projectors?
None are short throw. All the lifestyle projectors are standard throw, the Barco projector is ultra short throw.
Everyone has jumped on Jmgo's gimbal design. Pricing of the lifestyle projectors are increasing quickly, due to the new technology they are utilizing, which is annoying. Soon it will be the cost of a high end long/short throw projector.
That's one way to look at it, but I think the competition will end up driving prices down for higher performing projectors.
The Gimble design is cool. But dont you think, with the companies compacting higher end technologies in these units that it justifies the cost. The price always hovers around the high end when they are introduced, and competition is GOOD. These units will still likely price down below $2500. e.g the XGIMI Horizon Max unit looks like it will give the Formovie Theater performance in a long throw compact design. We're all impatient with the pricing. I get it.
The Dangbei Mars pro original model is advertised already as HDR10+ with 3 3D modes. I own it so not seeing the difference, what am I missing?
HDR10 and HDR10+ are different, 10+ is the competing format to Dolby Vision and supports dynamic metadata. Original Mars Pro does not support BluRay 3D (Frame interpolation).
@@TheHookUp strange if you goto the official Dangbei US website in the Mars pro(original model it doesn’t have the 2 yet) it specifically shows the HDR10+ logo and states it as a spec. Which is why I bought the newest Apple TV which features the HDR10+ capability for my existing Mars pro. Also curious if they mean the pro 2 will have native Bluray 3D compatibility not just thru a PC?
@@TheHookUp so yeah the official site has some incorrect hrd10+ in promotional images for original Mars pro, I guess a understandable mistake on their part.
Why no coverage of Samsung?
Samsung did not have any projectors at the show. Their announcement of the LSP7T and LSP5T refresh was just a press release.
@@TheHookUp how about the Premier 8k?
Also not at CES. They had it in a private suite last year.
@@TheHookUp but it was at CES 2024. Your counter parts have videos on RUclips on the premiere 8k. It’s the only way I even knew of the project lol.
@@latingringo89 I reported on the Premiere 8K last year from CES: ruclips.net/video/ehCH6meAy4A/видео.html
Last year (CES 2023) Samsung did not have projectors in their booth on the show floor, but they did have a separate set of suites that were open to media which is where the Premiere 8K was. This year (CES 2024) there was no off-site listing for Samsung on the CES app or info desk. If I had to guess I'd say Samsung invited only a select few media to look at their projector line. Probably more corporate media where Samsung can dictate what is and is not said on video. They did something similar with the original freestyle announcement where they only allowed sponsored and paid opinions by giving those media access during the pre-order period with no unbiased reviewers able to test it.
Why are projector prices not dropping 100 inch tvs are around 3k why would you want a projector
4 things:
1) Brightness uniformity on most 100" TVs is very poor, especially affordable ones.
2) Glare on large TV screens is just as much of an issue as loss of contrast on a projector screen in rooms without specifically designed theater lighting.
3) Dark room performance does not necessitate 500 or more nits, most movie theater screens are calibrated 50 nits or less peak brightness.
4) Watching an extremely bright screen in a dark room leads to significant eye fatigue that I notice on TVs 85" and larger, I cant imagine how bad it would be on a 120" TV when those start arriving.
What is your favorite portable projector so far?
Probably the JMGO N1, it's the one I find myself using the most when I just need a quick setup.
@@TheHookUp The 4K one, or the 1080p one?
The white 1080p one is significantly smaller and more portable than the larger gray ones.
EPSON ?
Epson, JVC, Sony Projection, Samsung Projection, Optoma, and BENQ were all absent from CES.
@@TheHookUpWow! Is there something to be made of this?
Wow ust's have almost nothing. Wonder why?
I continue to be perplexed why the established projector manufacturers have been reluctant to embrace LED and laser projection technologies.
Considering the wholesale cost of the components, 4K projectors continue to be grossly overpriced especially when one considers the cost of large 4K tvs.
Does anyone find it silly how Dengbei basically copied the same product line name from nebula? At least choose another planet. Jeez
Just wait until you hear the names of the robotic vacuums on the market. I feel like every company has an S8 and a T10.
Such a shame that this channel turned to be just another review channel. I miss Home Assistant content.
Sorry, you feel that way. There are tons of other great home assistant channels out there making amazing content faster and better than I ever could. I don't want to make duplicate/redundant content and unsponsored, unbiased, data driven reviews are something I feel highly qualified to do.
@@TheHookUpThat's OK, I understand. I always thought very highly about your Home Assistant content. Shame though. Thanks for clarifying, anyway, wish you the best of luck.
Im so disappointed. At this rate of development, projectors will become extinct
When is the formovie v10 getting released in the USA?
Never from what I’ve heard. Formovie X5 is the lifestyle projector they are focused on for the international market.
@@TheHookUp thanks man, have been amped about it since your review. Guess it's Alibaba then...
When will Formovie Theater release an updated version using ALDP 5.0?
I tried to answer you on Paul Hibbers Channel on ALR screens and I think he deleted because of competition so I came to your channel, and I unsubscribed his for being lame and subbed up here...I got my 120 inch ALR screen for around $25 delivered from Walmart and it works great in light. Way better than a regular screen or the wall using a Yaber Y21 from 14 feet across the room
Wait, a 120in ALR screen delivered for $25? That doesn't sound right at all.
@@TheHookUpaliexpress has lots of cheap "ALR" screens around 20$
@@TheHookUp i reiterate...at Walmart....it is a cloth foldable creaseless screen for $25 you hang via adhesive hooks. Of course, there's tax and shipping, but still. Very cheap and it works fine for me. I even game on mine and it's AWESOME!
Gotcha. That's likely not an "ALR" screen in the traditional sense of the word. ALR screens will typically include some kind of physical structure to eliminate ambient light. The most common types are lenticular ALR which rejects light coming from the opposite vertical angle of the projector and fresnel which reject light that doesn't originate from the bottom middle of the screen.