Honestly I know this already been but im still beyond shocked they have a whole ass ecosystem in the pyramid ships i wonder if we would explore one of em like actually explore it
It's an open goal! The ideas of what could be inside one is endless! Golden Age Planet!? Imagine if Clovis had actually joined up!? He could have a whole futuristic society of Exos hidden away creating a perfect army with all sorts of God awful experiments hidden away in there!!
This has now been datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers using this episodes echo. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind
@@Noname-ol8efI want a whole new system of planets. Or at least all new locations on every planet. This should have been Destiny 3 popping up here, not an expansion. As well, this should be the time we start exploring outward, finding threats before they hit home to Sol now that we’ve defeated The Witness.
@ShadowDreamer100 Tbf, you didn't specify WHAT locations you want to see. But we don't know much of apollo and Behemoth, so its TBS. But from what we've seen, it and future expansions with go the exploring route until we identify a good villain or villain race (the winnower).
This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind by the Traveler
@@Olgod2004 How can they datamine something that isn't in the game? Don't believe that dude just because he said it, datamining needs the content to be preloaded. That's why they can't datamine the exotic mission from Heresy. People really do just be making stuff up on the internet.
Injustices that don’t exist, consequences borne in silence. Makes me think they’re referring to the Witness’ people. They raged over something others didn’t, died and will be gratefully forgotten.
When reflecting on D1 and D2, the things that drew us in as players was the lore and story. So many unknowns involving the Golden Age, the exos, prominent families and factions, the iron lords, the “dark” guardians, the Traveler, and many, many more. Given that almost all of that has been explained in some capacity and we really don’t have many true enemies besides the vex and some small factions of the other races, the game is really burning the candle from both ends here. I think transitioning into a more space exploration based game for Frontiers were be awesome. Perhaps a combo of Mass Effect and Warframe. Allow us to discover new species of friends and foe. Allow us to travel to different solar systems and planets. Allow us to adequately harvest materials and resources. Allow us to choose our paths more.
I feel like some of the Lightfall lore was supposed to make us think it was the Witness. Thankfully, we now have the Winnower to take credit for that conversation.
This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind by the Traveler
This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers using the echo from this episode. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind by the Traveler
@oddlyenoughproductions1674 If you play but never bother to flesh out the bckstories and/or the lore , you have a looter/shooter that is fun, but does really make sense. Watch the RUclips lore and/or read the lore we keep dumping into the digital library, and you have an understanding of why and how. I was the former for two years but became just a little addicted to learning the lore, and I enjoy the game far more because of it.
The more I learn of things beyond the existence of The traveler the more I realize it's more like it's own species. Especially when you read the lore that shows how it doesn't know what we or other races wanted it just tried to interpret as best it can. We worship it but it doesn't understand what that means. It would be like a random dog who doesn't know you sticking by your side and just keeping you safe but it doesn't know you, wouldn't that be confusing to try and understand to a degree?
I think we might see this infamous third(red one) darkness subclass in the next saga. It is not a power of light or dark but a neutral power. Something that is taught to us in this new location. Long shot but i think that will be another mystery solved lol.
@AJMinto-ru1fn It wouldn't really be a element just straight up power but the traveler can create stuff like life ghosts and the stuff you see in the root of nightmares raid
The Light and Dark saga has been really amazing, the eternal conflict with the Guardians and the Witness has been a formidable journey, so I’m now very curious to see what the next saga holds
I personally believe that the gardener and winnower are a force beyond light and darkness, If you watch demon slayer now I know this is random asf what has demon slayer got that relates to what I’m about to say, In demon slayer sun breathing is the first and main ability of the breathing techniques whereas others such as water, wind and fire are merely weak copies or derivatives of the original technique that being sun breathing, So let’s imagine that the winnower and gardener are sun breathing, while light and darkness are the derivatives of those entities, This would mean that guardians and the witness only hold a mere fraction of the winnower and gardener’s powers.
The more I think about it, the more I believe we will end up like Loki, alone, but we will control all the forces in the universe, thus ending the cycle, or worse, like eren from AOT, will be stuck in a cycle with no real way out and then that haphazard beginning of D1 would make some sense lol
I feel like the person talking to whoever is the "hidden friend" could be savathuun talking to the hidden proto hive that's still on the run and alive and who was I believe a court advisor during the reign of the orsinium King
I'm still convinced that Destiny was always very inspired by pre-forerunner/pre-flood humanity from from the Halo universe. Eventually we'll have to deal with the architects of the great machine.
@jerrbear5958 that's true. I figured with the name of the next act being "heresy" it would have something to do with nokris. Also, if remember correctly, didn't nokris teach savathun necromancy? We never really figured out if savathun was on our side.
This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers using the echo from this episode. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind by the Traveler. Yeah not what anybody was hoping for
@@kieranmoore9692 when you notice, it's already too late. It'll explain itself back into the game, it's an insane weapon with implications that break reality...horrifying.
@suruxstrawde8322 evolution is evolution...I'm not saying the siva we saw is what we will see in the end. I don't think the thing designed to evolve stopped until the end, when it collapsed into itself. I think quicksilver isn't a final form either...
Frontiers? This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers using the echo from this episode. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally
This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers using the echo from this episode. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind by the Traveler. Yeah sadly not what anybody is hoping for
@@johnramos8703This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers using the echo from this episode. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind by the Traveler. Yeah sadly not what anybody is hoping for
Talking to the past version of itself. I'm sure Osiris' echoes didn't refer to themselves as different from their counterpart... Time is a mesh... It's all a mesh on top of each other... That being, if you understand, was talking to you directly...to me...if you understand, you're not alone. ((Geez, they're hitting you faster)) I am... This shit is just too weird, infinite nothing's... I had this epiphany when I first learned about atoms...shit is just too weird.
This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers using the echo from this episode. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind by the Traveler. Yeah not what anybody was hoping for
@@dizzyforyou9469 I would figure the location would be an torobatl, riis or some eliksni colony, I don’t think bungo would be smart enough to do something as cool as
I wish bro did better research on topics because he literally left out a potential interaction between these forces and mara sov when the oracle was built
Mannnn i just want to explore more shit on earth. We've seen like eastern germany and western russia / maybe ukraine? depending on where the cosmodrome / plaguelands is. Earth is fuckin huge. Let us see old chicago. Lets explore the ruins of some old tropical vacation spot. The lush jungles of a post-traveler Sahara. WE HAVE SO MUCH PLANET RIGHT HERE THATS STILL LARGELY DOMINATED BY HOUSE DUSK. That doesnt bother humanity? That our HOME, our PLANET is still under a hostile invasion of fallen??? Cmon bungie lemme see EARTH PLEASE. Destiny 1 used to be about exploring the ruins of old humanity and fighting back the darkness that lay within. But we NEVER RECLAIMED ANYTHING. Why is humanity content with one giga city of like a quarter billion people. Why must we conquer the stars when HOME STILL HAS MONSTERS
I feel the same. I was hoping that Frontiers would be us just taking back the earth. Maybe have enemies that are being affected by the valence from the Traveler. I would've loved to see Bungie's take on ruined golden age earth cities with a wild West type spin.
This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers using the echo from this episode. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind by the Traveler. Yeah not what anybody was hoping for
Im sure that Bungie got more things from the bible to put in the game. Yes for those of you who don't know Bungie got a lot of things from the bible (just like so many other things) and added it into Destiny 😂.
Evaze I would like to thank you and other content creators for making effort to entertain us while the greedy, car collecting, maternal bastardizing, childish entitled, ragtag, two-bit disgusting thieves continue to soul suck this game for a few extra drinks in the beaches of south america on a 2 week vacation.
Im shocked people even still play this garbage especially with how much of a shit show Echoes was and how buggy Revenant has been according to friends of mine. 😂
1. Has MANY flaws but there is still no other FPS MMO game so it has no competition and teh second to second combat is still so good. 2. Why are u in the comments of some "garbage" game?
The overarching enemy will turn out to be Pete Parsons using the mystic forces of his vintage car collection.
Hey Pete parsons believes in social justice, it says it on his Twitter profile. He's a good person 😡
@DestructoVic exactly. Everyone is going to feel real dumb when he uses all those cars he bought to get kids out of active warzones.
@@DestructoVicWe shall sell his cars to fund extra Bungie staff! Strengthen our relationships with the friends we made along the way!!
Damn y’all really like beating unfunny jokes to death huh?
@@lucasblanchard47 is that not the only way? Overuse & abuse = people move on?
Honestly I know this already been but im still beyond shocked they have a whole ass ecosystem in the pyramid ships i wonder if we would explore one of em like actually explore it
It's an open goal! The ideas of what could be inside one is endless! Golden Age Planet!? Imagine if Clovis had actually joined up!? He could have a whole futuristic society of Exos hidden away creating a perfect army with all sorts of God awful experiments hidden away in there!!
This has now been datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers using this episodes echo. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind
@@dizzyforyou9469 no way we finally get out of the solar system just to fight the same enemies we've been fighting for the last decade
Wake me up when it means new enemies and locations we’ve never had before. The lore is great, but it won’t substitute what’s actually gameplay.
Same
Same here, I love Destiny art style but after D2 we need something new and fresh.
We are literally having a new planet by apollo
@@Noname-ol8efI want a whole new system of planets. Or at least all new locations on every planet. This should have been Destiny 3 popping up here, not an expansion. As well, this should be the time we start exploring outward, finding threats before they hit home to Sol now that we’ve defeated The Witness.
@ShadowDreamer100 Tbf, you didn't specify WHAT locations you want to see. But we don't know much of apollo and Behemoth, so its TBS.
But from what we've seen, it and future expansions with go the exploring route until we identify a good villain or villain race (the winnower).
the whole "My man Oryx" has always made me think of Drifter, and only drifter. Only he uses words like that.
Something that really doesn't take you that seriously.
lol. Watch the enemies we face next year just be fallen with a different paint job.
Well its a fallen DLC with a mix of Vex and awoken
This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind by the Traveler
@@dizzyforyou9469 borinngggg. i mean i dont rlly care ill play it
@@Olgod2004 How can they datamine something that isn't in the game? Don't believe that dude just because he said it, datamining needs the content to be preloaded. That's why they can't datamine the exotic mission from Heresy. People really do just be making stuff up on the internet.
@@dizzyforyou9469bullshit. It’s not been data mined at all
Injustices that don’t exist, consequences borne in silence. Makes me think they’re referring to the Witness’ people. They raged over something others didn’t, died and will be gratefully forgotten.
Will we get a third darkness subclass?
When reflecting on D1 and D2, the things that drew us in as players was the lore and story. So many unknowns involving the Golden Age, the exos, prominent families and factions, the iron lords, the “dark” guardians, the Traveler, and many, many more. Given that almost all of that has been explained in some capacity and we really don’t have many true enemies besides the vex and some small factions of the other races, the game is really burning the candle from both ends here.
I think transitioning into a more space exploration based game for Frontiers were be awesome. Perhaps a combo of Mass Effect and Warframe. Allow us to discover new species of friends and foe. Allow us to travel to different solar systems and planets. Allow us to adequately harvest materials and resources. Allow us to choose our paths more.
'Paracausal mutilation' is such a good track to end the video
the entity that oryx was speaking to was not the witness.
I feel like some of the Lightfall lore was supposed to make us think it was the Witness. Thankfully, we now have the Winnower to take credit for that conversation.
It really feels like someone High jacked the story as of Lightfall and they almost have us back on track with the post Final Shape lore cards.
Oryx was always on top, never worshipped the cringe ass witness. Always worshipped the God of life and evolution, the winnower
@@jerrbear5958 Wouldn't the Gardener be the god of life?
This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind by the Traveler
Closing the door on light an dark. Do we finally get more info on the traveler. Being inside it wasnt enough
Nah i like my gods incomprehensible
This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers using the echo from this episode. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind by the Traveler
"my man oryx" seems more like a drifter line than anything
Maybe the drifter is the embodiment of the winnower he doesn't obey the rules neither did the winnower in the flower game
could be cool if The Veil created its own version of ghosts and guardians
Thanks mate. I love the lore details as it puts meat on the bare bones of the game
As far as lore goes, I don’t think “bare bones” is a fair assessment for Destiny 2. This reads like a pretty shallow take.
@@oddlyenoughproductions1674 Yeah, it's more like fat but on junk food with no actual substance/nutrients. Just a lot of garbage
@oddlyenoughproductions1674 If you play but never bother to flesh out the bckstories and/or the lore , you have a looter/shooter that is fun, but does really make sense. Watch the RUclips lore and/or read the lore we keep dumping into the digital library, and you have an understanding of why and how.
I was the former for two years but became just a little addicted to learning the lore, and I enjoy the game far more because of it.
The more I learn of things beyond the existence of The traveler the more I realize it's more like it's own species. Especially when you read the lore that shows how it doesn't know what we or other races wanted it just tried to interpret as best it can. We worship it but it doesn't understand what that means.
It would be like a random dog who doesn't know you sticking by your side and just keeping you safe but it doesn't know you, wouldn't that be confusing to try and understand to a degree?
I think we might see this infamous third(red one) darkness subclass in the next saga. It is not a power of light or dark but a neutral power. Something that is taught to us in this new location. Long shot but i think that will be another mystery solved lol.
A third darkness subclass would make sense three light and three dark but do you think there could be a power different from light or dark? Who knows
Third dark subclass looks like it would have to be Resonance given everything weve seen in the final shape.
@CarsonRut-n7y would creation count as light or dark?
@AJMinto-ru1fn It wouldn't really be a element just straight up power but the traveler can create stuff like life ghosts and the stuff you see in the root of nightmares raid
The Light and Dark saga has been really amazing, the eternal conflict with the Guardians and the Witness has been a formidable journey, so I’m now very curious to see what the next saga holds
3:27 didn’t know the winnower was chill like that
I dont know what's up with The Nine and the Aphelion but I'd like some new stuff with them heavily involved
True
the nine feels like such a dropped plot thread.
I personally believe that the gardener and winnower are a force beyond light and darkness,
If you watch demon slayer now I know this is random asf what has demon slayer got that relates to what I’m about to say,
In demon slayer sun breathing is the first and main ability of the breathing techniques whereas others such as water, wind and fire are merely weak copies or derivatives of the original technique that being sun breathing,
So let’s imagine that the winnower and gardener are sun breathing, while light and darkness are the derivatives of those entities,
This would mean that guardians and the witness only hold a mere fraction of the winnower and gardener’s powers.
That's how I have always seen it
Honestly with a new saga they need to make destiny 3 for it.
The more I think about it, the more I believe we will end up like Loki, alone, but we will control all the forces in the universe, thus ending the cycle, or worse, like eren from AOT, will be stuck in a cycle with no real way out and then that haphazard beginning of D1 would make some sense lol
Maybe the real next saga enemy was the friends we made along the way?
Always love your lore videos.
My man Oryx. Mad respect.
It's the nine & it fits eldritch to a T. it was also leaked as them.
The Nine don't shape the universe, they are constrained by it.
Nah its definitely the winnower
I feel like the person talking to whoever is the "hidden friend" could be savathuun talking to the hidden proto hive that's still on the run and alive and who was I believe a court advisor during the reign of the orsinium King
I love this channels community. People speculating, having craziest ideas about the future, excited about the story and lore
I'm glad to be here
It’s the Architects
I'm still convinced that Destiny was always very inspired by pre-forerunner/pre-flood humanity from from the Halo universe. Eventually we'll have to deal with the architects of the great machine.
A cosmic god entity referring to Oryx as "my man" is probably the best thing Destiny has ever produced.
Quick thought, what about oryx's son nokris? If i remember correctly, nokris was thrown out of oryx's court for heretical actions of necromancy!
And we killed him lol
@jerrbear5958 that's true. I figured with the name of the next act being "heresy" it would have something to do with nokris. Also, if remember correctly, didn't nokris teach savathun necromancy? We never really figured out if savathun was on our side.
They honestly let the witness get too large without letting the winnower come into play.
The next chapter in Destiny awaits
Really looking forward to the story of Heresy onwards, I love me my Eldritch forces
This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers using the echo from this episode. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind by the Traveler. Yeah not what anybody was hoping for
I love the lore in tis game bro
It’d be cool to bring back SIVA but maybe combined with hive
@@kieranmoore9692 when you notice, it's already too late.
It'll explain itself back into the game, it's an insane weapon with implications that break reality...horrifying.
Quicksilver is more powerful already, it's the evolved version with significantly smaller units.
@suruxstrawde8322 evolution is evolution...I'm not saying the siva we saw is what we will see in the end. I don't think the thing designed to evolve stopped until the end, when it collapsed into itself. I think quicksilver isn't a final form either...
I feel like the Winnower just does not care and only sees everything as an interesting twist to the flower game.
Frontiers? This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers using the echo from this episode. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally
These Need to be now honestly, another repaint would just be another death nail
Question for all commenters. Now that the Witness has fallen why haven’t the Fallen gone back to their planet?? Thank you Cory!!
The eliksni home world was destroyed in "the whirlwind" when it was attacked by the dark fleet of pyramids\witness
Good question, but the Fallen homeworld was FUCKED, like blown to shit
The closest most fallen have to a planet aside those allied with us is Europa I believe
This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers using the echo from this episode. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind by the Traveler. Yeah sadly not what anybody is hoping for
@@johnramos8703This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers using the echo from this episode. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind by the Traveler. Yeah sadly not what anybody is hoping for
Who of the hive gods could be left at this point? Taox? Is that hows its spelled? Lol xivu maybe. But who else is there?
Xivu is getting dealt with in Hersey and the Hive struggle is over and we take the dreadnought
The remain Worm gods for sure.
Hidden friend is a personal meaning the writer of the words meant to speak to in their real life.
Talking to the past version of itself. I'm sure Osiris' echoes didn't refer to themselves as different from their counterpart...
Time is a mesh...
It's all a mesh on top of each other...
That being, if you understand, was talking to you directly...to me...if you understand, you're not alone.
((Geez, they're hitting you faster))
I am...
This shit is just too weird, infinite nothing's...
I had this epiphany when I first learned about atoms...shit is just too weird.
The new enemy shoots brand new cars at you. Pew pew 💥 💥 🚗 🚙 💨
Light and Dark created the physical universe. It stands to reason that something else came into being at the beginning that would shape the universe.
It's the drifter!
the hidden friends could be lysander
Plot twist: it’s the Forerunners from Halo
Ah yes John Halo from Fortnite will be the new location vendor as well
You mean Xalanyn?
@@Oryx1014 technically, the Destiny universe is the same as the Halo universe… just millions of years apart
This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers using the echo from this episode. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind by the Traveler. Yeah not what anybody was hoping for
@@dizzyforyou9469 I would figure the location would be an torobatl, riis or some eliksni colony, I don’t think bungo would be smart enough to do something as cool as
Next on D2, welcome our new faction: the Lucent Fallen! 🎉
........the winnower!!!
It's going to be the ultimate BUG
Bring in the covenant from the Halo universe 😁
bro I love Mythics but the only force in the universe that is also strong as Light and darkness .. is the time
I wish bro did better research on topics because he literally left out a potential interaction between these forces and mara sov when the oracle was built
The ancients?
Mannnn i just want to explore more shit on earth. We've seen like eastern germany and western russia / maybe ukraine? depending on where the cosmodrome / plaguelands is. Earth is fuckin huge. Let us see old chicago. Lets explore the ruins of some old tropical vacation spot. The lush jungles of a post-traveler Sahara. WE HAVE SO MUCH PLANET RIGHT HERE THATS STILL LARGELY DOMINATED BY HOUSE DUSK. That doesnt bother humanity? That our HOME, our PLANET is still under a hostile invasion of fallen??? Cmon bungie lemme see EARTH PLEASE.
Destiny 1 used to be about exploring the ruins of old humanity and fighting back the darkness that lay within. But we NEVER RECLAIMED ANYTHING. Why is humanity content with one giga city of like a quarter billion people. Why must we conquer the stars when HOME STILL HAS MONSTERS
I feel the same. I was hoping that Frontiers would be us just taking back the earth. Maybe have enemies that are being affected by the valence from the Traveler. I would've loved to see Bungie's take on ruined golden age earth cities with a wild West type spin.
Vex
It’s guardians versus Lucifer sporting a FAFO necklace. Even he is pissed off about Trumps re-election.
The winnower
This has been now datamined. Eramis leads us to the new location in frontiers using the echo from this episode. The new enemy? Sadly it's just the fallen that were originally left behind by the Traveler. Yeah not what anybody was hoping for
2:50 we Stan our trans King Daddy Oryx
That's IF Destiny 2 can survive the current shit storm it's at, having damn near game shutdown player counts as of writing
Its still Destiny 2 so itll reskinned existing enemies.
Im sure that Bungie got more things from the bible to put in the game. Yes for those of you who don't know Bungie got a lot of things from the bible (just like so many other things) and added it into Destiny 😂.
Evaze I would like to thank you and other content creators for making effort to entertain us while the greedy, car collecting, maternal bastardizing, childish entitled, ragtag, two-bit disgusting thieves continue to soul suck this game for a few extra drinks in the beaches of south america on a 2 week vacation.
Forerunners time
First
Im shocked people even still play this garbage especially with how much of a shit show Echoes was and how buggy Revenant has been according to friends of mine. 😂
Anecdotal evidence fallacy
1. Has MANY flaws but there is still no other FPS MMO game so it has no competition and teh second to second combat is still so good.
2. Why are u in the comments of some "garbage" game?
I think that the Echoes story is awesome! And it seems like you can’t even make a good claim about the story since you haven’t played it yet.