IS SHE THE BEST MONSTER YET!?! Percy Jackson And The Olympians Ep 4 | Reaction
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Let me know what you guys thought of this episode!
Rick mentioned that he overestimated where the water actually was from the building in the books, so that's why Percy wasn't hanging over water
That's so cool that they corrected it here!! Had no idea the water wasn't as close so I just thought it was nice that Poseidon literally reached out to save him instead of him just falling straight in.
@@benspiller yes!! I also liked it because it kind of showed how Poseidon cares about Percy as Percy doesn’t know how to control his powers yet!
@@elliepay6545I saw somebody do the math and find that Percy would’ve had to fall at about a 30° angle to reach the water. So yeah; some divine intervention was necessary to let him land in the river, and I really like that they made it Poseidon literally reaching out to save him.
@@charliemallonee2792 totally
Anabeth has to learn, you never try to out self-sacrifice Percy Jackson
Yep 😂😂
I really like how the villains do psychological intimidation and engage intellectually in addition to just being scary. Like the idea of a creeper on the train really weirds us all out, so it's even scarier when the creeper is also out to get you 😱. Plus you get the sense that your'e in the presence of mega-intelligent beings who've probably been around for millennia. The way Echidna manipulated the entire situation to perfection was fitting, the way she only cared about training her monster was fitting, and she gave off evil while being completely calm and not doing cheesy evil laughs or anything. Pretty dang cool.
I know!! The villains have been phenomenal so far and I love how much depth has been added to all of them!!! Echidna was just done so well, every thing about her was she knew she caused pain but she enjoyed it!! It's that deliciously evil that can make some truly great villains and they have it with her so I'm really hoping she'll be back!
"She is coming? Who's that referring to? Gaia? I think that might be a bit of a stretch..."
_a few minutes later_
Echidna: "My grandmother is your great-grandmother."
There's your Gaia reference. Echidna's parents being Phorcys and Keto in the original myths.
It depends on th source. Apollodorus says she's th daughter of gaia n tartarus
Funny when you remember that Echidna and Zeus are cousins 😅
Oh yeah 😂😂 Love that they are already referencing all these beings as how everyone is related to everyone is honestly one of the best parts to me.
A line that really stuck with me in tlf is when percy talks about father for the first time. He said in the book his mother said he was lost at sea, not dead, just lost at sea. It definitely was a small moment but it stuck with me a lot as someone who lost their father very young, that small but incredibly important distinction helped percy come to terms with the greek side of him.
So sorry to hear about that, though happy to hear how it connects you with the story 😁 Always liked that Percy thought his dad was lost at sea and it's kind of a shame he's just become an absentee Father in the show.
"I don't think you wanna take that tone with me, little girl" is such a chilling line, when you take into consideration that Annabeth is black, and noone is talking about it. Also, quite ironically, Echidna wasn't the mother of any of the monsters they've encountered until now (well, actually, she was mother of the Gorgons according to one version of the myth about Medusa, but that's it).
I’m really enjoying this series. I wish this episode was a bit longer but the pacing was really good.
Same, thought these would be an hour long each yet all of them have been around 20 minutes shy of that which would have really helped with the eariler episodes, but here it worked perfectly with only 2 and a bit chapters being used.
Man, if only this episode was longer... actually, if all the episodes were longer, this show would be better! But still, I'm enjoying it lot.
Agreed, adding another 20 minutes to the first two episodes especially would have really helped but it seems to be getting better when there are fewer chapters per episode.
Love your reactions. You're one of the few book readers I'm still watching because some of the book purist can be a bit irrational and only want the show to be a direct page by page translation to show which is impossible to do. You're so right about everything and I can't wait to see the pay off at at the end when Luke finally reveals his true colors and motivation.
Thanks so much! 😁 I knew going in they'd have to make some changes so right now I just want to analyse and appreciate how they've brought the story to Live-action. Plus it helps that the changes are basically made by the author to either correct mistakes like the water beneath the Arch or to add to the story or characters like Echidna.
Yes, I always hate when people want adaptations to be exactly like the source material, that's super boring and no point in watching lol
Never has there been a more nonsensically completely reasonable sentence than "You are dying. You need to fall." Relentless!
I loved the episode by the way, so much visual artistry. And of course Suzanne Cryer's star villainy.
Oh, and I think Annabeth's dad did love her in the book... but he doesn't really pay a lot of attention to her from the scenes we got with him, pretty sure he had to be reminded at one point in book 3 that she was in danger. His daughter's unfortunately second to his work and general nerdiness for history, so I'd guess step-mom ended up having to be mostly responsible for Annabeth's upbringing when she joined the family, which was probably just an unfortunate stressful situation for everyone involved. That's just how I see it though.
Thanks 😂😂
Yeah this episode might be my favourite so far, loved the shot of Percy falling from the arc and just all the visuals this one gave us, especially with the Centaurs. And Suzanne Cryer was AMAZING! So hoping she comes back to team up with her husband Typhon.
Ah so with Annabeth's dad, it's more of a neglectful relationship rather than a hateful one, I always thought he just didn't want her from the start and saw her as a burden but it's nice to know he loved her but put his work first, and loved your point with the Step-Mum, always viewed her as evil cause I guess that's how Annabeth might have seen her but really she's probably horrified to the world she got brought into and having her children as well be exposed to the dangers Annabeth brings with her.
@benspiller Oh yeah, Annabeth definitely painted her step-mum as a villain, but when Percy met her I think he thought "she seems alright". But I remember it felt off then when she showed up in a flashback in Mark of Athena and was really harsh on Annabeth for being afraid of spiders. She definitely wasn't a helpful loving parent to her, probably just didn't have a clue how to raise her and her own kids all at the same time.
ive read books multiple Xs & Im loving EVERYTHING so far . Next week will be WILD , Ares time
Can't wait for next week!! From having monsters be the Antagonists of the episodes we move to the Gods and see they cause just as much of a headache to Demigods! 😂😂
For some reason Typhon never really left a lasting on me from the books, so it's very cool and interesting to hear you build up his threat so early just from Echidna's appearance! Makes me very excited for the future seasons.
Typhon always seemed slept on to me, he was used to basically distract and draw the Gods away from Olympus, all of which are crazy powerful and needed a whole load of them to stop him, yet he just doesn't feel as up there in villainy as Kronos or Gaia, it's probably because he was just being used by Kronos but I just think there's a lot of potential in his character and this show could do some great things with both him and Echidna working for Kronos.
@@benspiller Absolutely! Typhon in the book is kinda like the Chimera was in this episode, a suspenseful off-screen threat coming at our heroes while trapped in a high place. Chimera pulled it off great, so we'll see if season 5 can pull off that feeling across a whole season.
Your reaction was literally me. Honestly, my reaction video is basically you, just with a lot more crying😂 I subscribed, you’re wonderful! I’m so excited to see the rest of the series, I’m so hyped for next week.
This was my absolute favorite episode thus far, I loved it so much. Echidna is definitely the best monster so far, I love that they made this longer than it was in the book. And her acting is so creepy and unsettling, it’s everything!!! And all of the backstory, setting up Grover’s Pan journey, Percabeth, the chimera, the nereid!!! *chef’s kiss*
So happy to see another reactor loving this show!! 😁 Thanks for the sub and yeah this has got to be my favourite episode so far too, loved everything they did with Echidna, she was the kind of deliciously evil villain we just don't get enough of and the additions to Grover and Annabeth's characters has been something I've been waiting for and so happy that they've been well rounded out halfway through the show so now we can get the trio gelling like a team!!
@@benspiller I know, right? A lot of the reactions I’ve seen so far have been a bit harsh towards it, picking it apart and whatnot. Yes, exactly! Deliciously evil is a great way to put it, she was so good. We got so much more depth. I’m glad they’re already showing how much they care about each other, it’s so sweet
Manticore has stingers on tail. Not the Chimera. Chimera has a snake for tail.
my favorite episode
Same!!
You're so right!! I loved Equidna, and I hope they bring her back later in the series, she's such an interesting and powerful monster, she should be leading her children to battle against the gods. But also, Zeus's the one who sent her. So I'm not sure, how does he have control over her? Maybe it was just like, "Hey, Equidna, long time no see! Do you want to kill some demigods for me?" "Kill demigods? You know what? I do need to teach my baby Chimera to hunt. I'm in.", like a mutual favor and not like he really has any control over her.
I'm so hoping they do this 😂, I can already picture a scene with Typhon fighting the Olympians in the background with Echidna maybe riding the Chimera into battle with a bunch of monsters surrounding her! I think she listened to Zeus because she had too, like when Kronos shows up the Monsters, Gods and Titans are forced to take sides so I think it'd be a pretty natural decision for Echidna to side with Kronos if he promises a better existence for her children.
@@benspiller Yeah, that makes a lot of sense!! Let's hope for it, fingers crossed!
When does Percy come to realize that his grandfather is harassing him through his dreams?
I might be remembering it wrong but I think he learns at the end of book 1 but I don't think anyone believes him so I'm not sure how they'll play it here, either they'll gaslight him or he won't believe it himself.
Pretty sure it's a scorpion tail not a snake tail... Snakes generally inject venom from the other end (also snake tails are actually proportionately extremely short)
Nope, Chimera has a snake's tail, you might be thinking manticore as they do have a scorpion's tail, however. In myth, the Chimera's tail is just a snake with the head as the tail tip. In the show, they've changed it to a lizard tail, which works, but I'm not sold on the 'stinger' since, visually, the tail doesn't feel like it would have a one.
@@vultar9999 the Greek chimera also has multiple heads (3 if you count the snake) which this didn't... I assumed they were blending it with a manticore as that clearly attacked like a scorpion and not a snake or dragon depending on which Greek source you're looking at.
@@vultar9999 th homer's myth in th iliad says that th chimera has a dragon's tail, w/out any head on it
When I shouted that I basically thought the outline of the tail resembled a Cobra's head so instead of doing a literal snake head they just kept the shape but I didn't finish the thought before they moved on to other stuff 😂 If it is a scorpion tail that'd be a cool change though it may be too similar to the Manticore.
@@matte5705I think it’s also partially implied that there might be more than one chimera. Echidna also mentions that this one is young, so she might not be full-grown yet?
The two/three-headed-ness is also not a universal trait; in the Iliad, Homer says that she has front part of a lion, the back part of a serpent, and the middle part is a goat - no extra heads mentioned. So depending on which description they go with, the multiple heads are not absolutely necessary.
I think it’s also likely that they chose not to go the multi-headed route with the Chimera since we’re getting Cerberus, also a multi-headed monster, later this season!
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Overall I like this episode better than the first 2, but it's a step back from 3 for me.
The thing about Annabeth's dad in the books is that we don't really know what he thinks. The relationship is definitely strained, but Annabeth's not a reliable narrator here. She's got a lot of hurt towards her dad and stepmom, but we don't know how much of that is reality and how much is her interpretation of her mortal family dealing with the realities of demigods. I can also see her dad saying no thanks to Athena, just because of family history, but it doesn't mean he doesn't love her. He's definitely a loving parent later.
Personally I think there's too much dialogue for Echidna here. She's just repeating stuff over and over again. The chihuahua is a nice nod to the books, but really makes no sense in the show. It's just sort of there. I feel if the Chimera hadn't been in the pet carrier all the time it would have worked better, but it seems like the show wants it so demigods don't get tricked by the mist, which they definitely do. It feels awkward.
Really don't like the arch being a shrine to Athena. Athena is not a goddess of architecture, and by doing this they've stolen Annabeth's special thing. She is described as loving this so much that she invests so much effort into it that Percy tends to forgets she's just as ADHD and dyslexic as the average demigod. They're taking a personality moment (which Annabeth needs) and converting it to a 'parent conflict' moment again. I agree they need to give us some of those for later reasons, but it feels like they're overcorrecting and everybody should be on team Luke now.
The problem with the arch and Poseidon part is that Poseidon isn't going to going to let Percy die here because he needs him, so it feels, to me, a lot less like 'I care' and more like 'I need you alive'. In the book Percy chooses to let go and trust his father. The arch isn't over water so that makes a problem, but I'm not sure the solution they chose works, because accidently losing your grip and falling doesn't indicate any feeling at all. Maybe if Poseidon spoke to Percy telling him to let go or telling him to jump?
Hades is the best dad in the books by far. Heck, he's best god in the books. I'm hoping we see Nico and Bianca in the casino.
I don't think we should be expecting Nico and Bianca in the lotus casino. I can't imagine they will already cast them when they then won't appear until season 3 and they aren't supposed to age before then. Maybe there will be a small reference with their names or something, but I can't imagine they'll do much more than that.
Ah, I think I've been drawn in by Annabeth's description of her family life too much 😂😂 Still re-reading the first book so some things are a little foggy but at least this episode sets up their relationship and we'll get to see if Annabeth is being emotional or not.
I actually really loved Echinda's dialogue in this, she takes that Evil spin on Mothering with the Chimera learning to hunt and talking to the kids like a Mother would, for a centuries-old monster that's defined as being a Mother I thought that was very fitting. I get your point about the pet carrier, it might have been better to have the Chihuahua out of it for more than one scene to make it feel less than a nod, hopefully they'll use these two again though.
I think the reason they changed the Arch was to try and keep the tone consistent with bringing in Echidna early when there was no threat on the train in the book, they were free to wander around the city and indulge in personal stuff. Here it seems way more unnatural than being attacked and finding safety. I do agree though that I wish the Architecture stuff was more personal to Annabeth, she already has the Spider thing linking her to her Mother so it definitely felt unnecessary, hopefully though it will get built on and maybe as she realises that her Mother doesn't actually care about her as much as she thinks, she might distance herself from it but go back to it after realising she loves it for her own reasons.
True the Arch scene is going to be hard to interpret, the trust he has in his Father definitely isn't there yet though I do like the visual metaphor of Poseidon reaching out and catching him as he's falling, hopefully that can be built on as a sort of trust fall thing.
Also hoping to see Nico and Bianca in the hotel, I think all three of the other forbidden children could show up in this season with Thalia being in one of Percy's dreams but I have no idea how the casting would work with it being so early on.
ok, haven't read the books in a while but can someone explain what does he mean by "zeus kinda broke the pact first, then poseidon, HADES NEVER BROKE IT"? like, if we count HoO, both hades/pluto and zeus/jupiter broke it twice and only poseidon broke it once. even if you don't count it, what do you mean hades never broke it? what about nico and bianca?
definitively chime in (for his engagement's sake), but a quick google search answered my question, hades/pluto fathered them before the pact, i thought the pact was older but apparently it was made after WWII, gotcha.
@@CapPotato388 it's most likely that th pact was only made by th original greek form of th gods n not by their roman counterparts 2, since none of th roman campers mention any kind of limitation on children for th gods during 'th son of neptune'. Also, when percy arrives at camp jupiter none of th other campers are shocked to see a son of neptune like th camp half-blood campers were in th 1' book. At th same time, none of the other campers think it's strange that there are 2 children of pluto. Also, reyna tells percy that th last camper before him to have a relationship w/ neptune was shen lun in 1906, more than 30 years before th ww2
We dont find out that Hades broke the pact until nico and bianca are introduced so in the lightning thief the characters as well as the readers are only aware that zeus broke it first because they are aware of thalia and we are aware that poseidon broke it after because of the existence of percy. NOBODY AT THIS TIME KNOWS THAT HADES EVEN HAS KIDS. Also technically hades had nico and bianca before the pact was even formed. they only become a part of the prophecy because they were trapped at the casino.
Seen your reply and to be honest I had to google search it at the start of the show cause I forgot if they were before or after WWII 😂, just love how Hades is presented in this franchise as he's probably the best parent out of the Gods and actually keeps his word unlike literally everyone else 😂😂
Echidna kinda gives off racist Karen vibes lol
This is SO true! She is the Karen to Demigods!!! 😂😂