Giordano Bruno - Martyr or Magician?

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  • Опубликовано: 18 дек 2024
  • Was Giordano Bruno really a Martyr for Science?
    What did he believe, and why was he burnt at the stake in 1600 A.D? Those are the subject's we will cover in this video.
    This will include the early life of Giordano Bruno, and the historical context Bruno lived in. Afterwards we will cover the core ideas in Giordano Bruno's worldview, and his relationship towards modern science. The video will then be concluded with the trial and execution of Giordano Bruno, and whether Bruno should be considered a martyr for modern science.
    If you liked this Giordano Bruno documentary, don’t forget to check out my other videos at / @quillinkhistory9539
    Recommended literature.
    God's Philosopher(James Hannam. 2010). Link: www.amazon.com...
    Galileo goes to jail and other myths about science and religion(Red. Ronald Numbers. 2009).
    Link: www.amazon.com...
    DISCLAIMER: This video-description contain affiliate links, which means that if you click on one of the product links, I will receive a small commission.
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    Lost Time, The Pyre, Folk round, and Heart from nowhere, by Kevin Macleod
    Note: I try to use copyright-free images and stock footage at all times. However, if I have used any of your artwork or video content then please don't hesitate to contact me and I’ll be more than happy to give the appropriate credit. Mail: inkhistorycontact@gmail.com
    Sources
    God's Philosopher(James Hannam. 2010).
    Galileo goes to jail and other myths about science and religion, chapter 6(Red. Ronald Numbers, Author. Dennis R. Danielson. 2009).
    The scientific revolution - A very short introduction(Lawrence M. Principe. 2011).
    Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition(Frances Yates. 1964).
    Giordano Bruno and the heresy of many worlds(Alberto A. Martinez. 2016). Link: www.tandfonlin...

Комментарии • 118

  • @quillinkhistory9539
    @quillinkhistory9539  3 года назад +1

    Learn about the Galileo affair: ruclips.net/video/iJ2j3jv5Xyw/видео.html
    Learn about the history of Johannes Kepler: ruclips.net/video/Q5j6gwHbR8A/видео.html

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 3 года назад +14

    So, in short, a 'magician' and a martyr, but for the freedom of belief and speech, not science.
    It's always great to see your videos. They are characterised by calm and critical research instead of pushing this or that simplified narrative.

    • @simhahetuvadi255
      @simhahetuvadi255 Год назад +2

      At that time Philosophy and science are interconnected.

  • @danhudson1333
    @danhudson1333 3 года назад +15

    Modern Day "New" Atheists love to talk about how Giordano Bruno was a martyr for science, when he was really a martyr for occultist ideas

    • @azazel166
      @azazel166 3 года назад +11

      "New" Atheist here, I don't talk about him, other than what happened to him was a crime.

    • @anthonypalo8191
      @anthonypalo8191 3 года назад +3

      Exactly!

    • @liquidbraino
      @liquidbraino Год назад

      Modern day Christians love to criticize the man THEY literally slow roasted to death just for being a free thinker even though YOUR religion is full of pedophile priests. Watch the movie "Spotlight", based on a true story. Eight percent of all priests are pedophiles. Fucking hypocrite.

    • @giulianoardis370
      @giulianoardis370 10 месяцев назад +1

      Ovviosly you ďont know nothing about jiordano Bruno I suggest to you to read (LA CENA DELLE CENERI) then you know 0.1% of Giordano Bruno mental capacity

    • @epiclegowarrior7416
      @epiclegowarrior7416 9 месяцев назад

      @@azazel166my friend may you be freed from your illness truly I mean this for VEDO

  • @AncientAccounts
    @AncientAccounts 3 года назад +8

    The maps in this 👌🏾
    It’s good to see you uploading again, I should have something up in the next two weeks
    Also love the step up in editing and visuals

  • @kevanhubbard9673
    @kevanhubbard9673 3 года назад +3

    I wouldn't say he was a martyr for science as he wasn't a scientist.He seems to have followed a belief which would equate to what we now call Panentheism....a theological rather than scientific position.

    • @liquidbraino
      @liquidbraino Год назад +1

      He literally invented the word "scientist", the first use of that word is in one of his books and he also was the first to suggest that mathematics should be included into the "Natural Philosophy" which is what science was called before the 17th century.

  • @douglasdde376
    @douglasdde376 3 года назад +1

    Again nicely done missed listening to what I consider your balanced approach.

  • @peterloohunt
    @peterloohunt Месяц назад

    Very interesting!

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE 3 года назад +2

    Nice video 👍🏻 I didn't know about this person but I found it to be very interesting. Thank you for sharing & keep up the good work.

  • @masterjunky863
    @masterjunky863 2 года назад +9

    As an Italian I think Bruno is a hero and a great inspiration!

    • @tantrum17
      @tantrum17 2 года назад +1

      Bro please 💀

    • @masterjunky863
      @masterjunky863 2 года назад

      @@tantrum17 Why?

    • @Centannicocktails
      @Centannicocktails Год назад

      Fa brava!

    • @valeriaortiz8410
      @valeriaortiz8410 Год назад

      hero???? hahahah

    • @giulianoardis370
      @giulianoardis370 7 месяцев назад +1

      If you
      Have knowledge of science and read Bruno literature I was a person of science in
      My opinion he was the first to invent quantum Phisics, he was a genius far above many revered person of science he was of the calibre of Ettore majorana

  • @jamessheffield4173
    @jamessheffield4173 Год назад +3

    You might say it is not serious, but my Italian grandfather told my mother how can one respect a church that burned Bruno at the stake?

  • @heekyungkim8147
    @heekyungkim8147 3 года назад +2

    Very interesting. Great video. 👍🏽

    • @liquidbraino
      @liquidbraino Год назад

      Yeah except that he got EVERYTHING wrong. Too much for me to list here, just read a few books about Bruno and see for yourself but for starters he wasn't born in Naples and he didn't join the Dominican monastery at the age of 17.

  • @royalnachos
    @royalnachos 2 года назад

    Just found your channel, so much good content!

    • @liquidbraino
      @liquidbraino Год назад

      Yeah except that he got almost everything wrong. Read a few books about Bruno and discover truth because this guy's just making stuff up off the top of his head. Bruno wasn't even born in Naples he was born in Nola and didn't join the Dominican monastery at the age of 17, he joined at the age of 15. Very basic and simple facts that are easy to verify. I didn't even bother watching past the 41 second mark because if he can't even get the basic facts right then all I'm going to end up doing is fact checking the WHOLE rest of the video.

  • @PaulHattle
    @PaulHattle 3 года назад +6

    He was a martyr for free thought. Don't forget you can't tell me what to think.

    • @JayJonesy11
      @JayJonesy11 3 года назад +1

      You're not free.

    • @anotherliluselessshit1402
      @anotherliluselessshit1402 3 года назад

      @@JayJonesy11 yes

    • @anthonypalo8191
      @anthonypalo8191 3 года назад +3

      not all free thoughts are good though. Mohammed and Hitler had free thought look what happened.

    • @liquidbraino
      @liquidbraino Год назад

      ​@@JayJonesy11 Nobody is - you're tied to a physical body. You're not genuinely "free" until you die.

    • @liquidbraino
      @liquidbraino Год назад

      ​@@anthonypalo8191 Oh right so let's just lock down everyone's brains; install Neuralink in every human on Earth so that we can monitor ALL thought and make sure everyone's thinking is in line with only YOUR approved narrative. You sound like a typical brain washed cult member.

  • @johnmanole4779
    @johnmanole4779 3 года назад +3

    Could you do more videos like these?

    • @quillinkhistory9539
      @quillinkhistory9539  3 года назад +1

      Sure thing

    • @johnmanole4779
      @johnmanole4779 3 года назад

      @@quillinkhistory9539 thx

    • @liquidbraino
      @liquidbraino Год назад

      You mean more videos that are full of inaccuracies and mostly made up off the top of his head?

  • @giulianoardis370
    @giulianoardis370 2 года назад +3

    Please note Bruno proved then and now 500 years later that he was correct to hall the aspect of his Theory
    he started Relativity,Quantum physics and in the future i will be proven right in the assumption that the Universe is Infinite
    it would be ridiculous to think that the Universe as boundary.Bruno quote We hare made of the same material can be changed but can not be destroyed. I firmly believe he was a genius far more Galileo,Newton,Avogadro,Einstein

  • @goutsugoutsu
    @goutsugoutsu 3 года назад +6

    ID (pronounced i dee ) as in identity. Idea pronounced ideeA adding an A after the e. Giordano as in Dziordano. Apart from this, the video was indeed excellent

  • @RP-mm9ie
    @RP-mm9ie 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks 😮

  • @2tehnik
    @2tehnik 3 года назад +1

    Surprised you didn't mention his pantheism.
    Is there good reason to believe it influenced his charge?

    • @quillinkhistory9539
      @quillinkhistory9539  3 года назад +3

      I am aware of it, though it was not something that was brought up much in the literature I used. While pantheism is definitely something that the church deemed heretical in the late sixteenth century, I'm not sure if it specifically could have been one of the charges.

  • @rogermoore27
    @rogermoore27 3 года назад +2

    Why is the narrator speaking like that?

  • @Unraveled
    @Unraveled 3 года назад +3

    I didn't even know this guy existed, so I indeed learnt something!

    • @darkstaff75018
      @darkstaff75018 3 года назад

      Lucky guy.

    • @liquidbraino
      @liquidbraino Год назад

      Everything you learned is wrong if all you know about Bruno came from this video. He wasn't born in Naples and he didn't join the Dominican monastery at the age of 17. Watch ANY other videos if you want to know the truth about Bruno, more than half of this shit was made up. Or just read a few books about Giordano Bruno. Nobody these days reads books because people these days are intellectually lazy and I find that ironic since you're on a video about Giordano Bruno.

  • @VINOTOR
    @VINOTOR 2 года назад +3

    "universe is infinite and is interconnected, hidden to the human eye"
    So he basically almost meant/told about multiverse 1st ever in medieval age

    • @errrrrshhhhh
      @errrrrshhhhh 2 года назад

      They are trying to defend their religion

    • @liquidbraino
      @liquidbraino Год назад

      *Quantum nonlocality

  • @josephbartlett1979
    @josephbartlett1979 Год назад +1

    Bruno saw the deception for what it was and knew that we needed to get back to the old gods he knew that we all have the potential for Christ in the importance of it but the two thousand-year-old religion was associated with it's part of the deception which goes so much deeper

  • @seraqueeusourealmenteobode31
    @seraqueeusourealmenteobode31 2 года назад

    Is pretty cool man !! Congratulations !! i did one videogame called Genius vs AntiChrist 1 that describe Giordano Bruno's History .."!! for me " he's so special at all ."!

  • @flynn659
    @flynn659 3 года назад +2

    I used to watch Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey, but looking at it now, especially the first episode, it was very biased for or against various peoples when they talk about past thinkers. Neill's a smart man, but the show put a bad taste in my mouth looking back.

  • @brians8169
    @brians8169 3 года назад +1

    How is it I watch an old episode of pawn stars. I look the name up on RUclips and ironically there's this video made a week ago lol

    • @liquidbraino
      @liquidbraino Год назад

      Is that a question? Because most questions require a question mark. Either way you have two incomplete sentences.

  • @liquidbraino
    @liquidbraino Год назад

    00:30 and already one major fail. He wasn't born in Naples, he was born in Nola, he even referred to himself as "The Nolan"
    00:41 seconds in = fail #2 He entered the monastery of San Domenico Maggiore in Naples in 1563. He was fifteen years old at the time; not seventeen.
    No point in even watching the rest of the video if you can't even get the BASIC facts right. Did you just make all this up off the top of your head?

  • @Bolaniullen
    @Bolaniullen 2 года назад

    Nice Swenglish accent, brorsan !

  • @frankmedrisch7451
    @frankmedrisch7451 3 года назад +2

    He had controversial IDs

  • @shashikamanoj1160
    @shashikamanoj1160 3 года назад

    Do a video on Ignaz Sommelweis...

  • @whatsmylogin
    @whatsmylogin 3 года назад +2

    Good video. I would advise you to llook up the pronunciation of the word "idea". It sounds unprofessional if you keep mispronozncing such an important word.

    • @liquidbraino
      @liquidbraino Год назад

      *Mispronouncing
      If you're going to correct somebody else's speaking you'd better correct your own spelling first.

  • @JayJonesy11
    @JayJonesy11 3 года назад

    Can you do one on Tesla and bring a scientific martyr.

  • @GalacticRanger
    @GalacticRanger 3 года назад

    Någon här har läst sin "History for atheists" märker jag.
    Älskar din accent också btw. Kärlek från Umeå.

    • @quillinkhistory9539
      @quillinkhistory9539  3 года назад +1

      Man tackar Amos! Yes, Tim O'neil gör ett jättebra arbete med den bloggen. Om du skule vara interesserad av att läsa mer om ämnet kan jag rekommendera dig att kolla upp litteraturen längst ner i beskrivningen :)

    • @GalacticRanger
      @GalacticRanger 3 года назад

      @@quillinkhistory9539 Det ska jag!

    • @johnmanole4779
      @johnmanole4779 3 года назад

      @@quillinkhistory9539 what you guys talked about?

    • @quillinkhistory9539
      @quillinkhistory9539  3 года назад

      @@johnmanole4779 About Tim Oneils blog

  • @athenassigil5820
    @athenassigil5820 3 года назад +1

    Mage.....but I'll watch and see what you propose.

    • @athenassigil5820
      @athenassigil5820 3 года назад +1

      Ok, I watched and was relieved by your conclusion. Bruno was an amazing thinker, philosper and practicioner of the art of memory, he was not a martyr of science as proposed by Neil Degrasse Tyson. In fact, I loved the depiction in Cosmos through the art style etc, but Bruno was more accustomed to neoplatonic cosmology, which was hardly "scientific", his was an amazing mind, but he was trapped in the world of celestial hierarchies and contemplative Platonism...not the scientific rigor of trial and error and methodology. But he definitely was a noble human, living in a very ignorant era....for which he paid the ultimate price.

    • @quillinkhistory9539
      @quillinkhistory9539  3 года назад +3

      Agreed, while not a martyr for modern science, I do believe that ha can be seen as a martyr for freedom of though, and of speech.

    • @athenassigil5820
      @athenassigil5820 3 года назад

      @@quillinkhistory9539 Most definitely! Very good and concise video, I applaud how much info you got into a 15 minute video. Cheers!

    • @quillinkhistory9539
      @quillinkhistory9539  3 года назад +3

      @@athenassigil5820 Thankyou!

  • @jamespoff8632
    @jamespoff8632 2 года назад

    I wonder if he believed in after life

  • @giulianoardis370
    @giulianoardis370 5 месяцев назад

    Ovviusly you didn't read any Bruno Litterature

  • @fernandoramirez756
    @fernandoramirez756 2 года назад +1

    🌻🌻🌻❤️🌻🌻🐤

  • @oobrocks
    @oobrocks 2 года назад

    16th century not the 17th

    • @liquidbraino
      @liquidbraino Год назад +2

      He literally got EVERYTHING wrong in this video. This guy's just making stuff up off the top of his head. Bruno wasn't even born in Naples he was born in Nola and he didn't join the monastery at the age of 17, he joined at the age of fifteen.

  • @zeitfieldunite4488
    @zeitfieldunite4488 11 месяцев назад

    Bruno believed in lifeforms on other planets

  • @MercedesCruz-qe1nj
    @MercedesCruz-qe1nj Месяц назад

    Bruno was a victim of the powers of the church.

  • @epiclegowarrior7416
    @epiclegowarrior7416 9 месяцев назад

    Vedo my friends vedo

  • @ukraka3687
    @ukraka3687 3 года назад

    Nc

  • @LuisAldamiz
    @LuisAldamiz 3 года назад +2

    Both martyr and magician, of course.
    Also science is magic (just that it is "serious magic", not charlatanism), you are not fooling anyone by making a distinction.

    • @quillinkhistory9539
      @quillinkhistory9539  3 года назад +9

      I disagree. While natural magic does have an important role in the history of early modern science, it's not reasonable to equate it with science.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 3 года назад

      @@quillinkhistory9539 - “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic” (Arthur C. Clarke)
      "The wizard is a radical realist" (Hakim Bey)
      "Do you like magic? Study physics then... or maybe chemistry or biology or computer science". (Me to my niece).
      In any case I very strongly disliked your video: you, like the inquisitors, had already issued sentence from the beginning and did not even debate the evidence.

    • @quillinkhistory9539
      @quillinkhistory9539  3 года назад +5

      @@LuisAldamiz If you get your history from Sci-fi authors, I can understand that you don't like the video

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 3 года назад

      @@quillinkhistory9539 - I don't like the way you addressed it at all: you were partisan against Bruno since minute one, not even a positive remark, if he nailed some scientific achievements, it was only random chance, even the Jesuit inquisitor appears to be a good person (for Chaos' sake: he's an inquisitor sending someone to torture and death just on his opinions!) The most biased video I ever watched on such matters, I actually unsubscribed after watching (my comment was written before I watched, based only on the title and what little I may know on the issue).

    • @quillinkhistory9539
      @quillinkhistory9539  3 года назад +2

      @@LuisAldamiz Given your comments, I doubt you were ever a subscriber.
      "if he nailed some scientific achievements, it was only random chance", yes, that's the case if you reject the scientific method
      "even the Jesuit inquisitor appears to be a good person", I never presented the inquisitor as a good person, I described who he as and what he did.
      "The most biased video I ever watched on such matters", then you have not seen many videos on this topic mate

  • @cyberreality7774
    @cyberreality7774 Год назад

    Heliocentricism was never proved scientifically. The whole heliocentric crusade was led for religious (pagan and magical) reasons by people such as Copernicus and Galilei who wanted to create a metaphysics alternative/opposed to christianity.
    The whole modern science is basically based upon this. It was meant to create a new platonic approach to spiritual life based on aerial vs earth demons to interact with. At least it had some internal coherence while contemporary science just got rid of human spirituality and trascendence while keeping that astronomical structure (still today not proved) hence basically becoming a walking abomination

    • @jasonmoonshiner
      @jasonmoonshiner Год назад

      Could you explain further? I'm interested

    • @cyberreality7774
      @cyberreality7774 Год назад

      @@jasonmoonshiner Basically the whole Heliocentric revolution started and went on for exoteric reasons (this is something now recognized by official historians) based on symbolism, some form of neo paganism based on Pythagoras teachings etc rather than on observation of nature. It all was based on the ancient cult of the Sun so the Sun HAD to be at the center of the universe (physically and metaphorically). They started from this assumption and then they searched for evidence, not the other way around. That's why Keynes (and many materialist leaning thinkers) were actually disappointed when they studied and learnt more about Newton or Kepler or Paracelsus or Bruno: they all basically were way more into occultism than nature and our culture is still today depicting them in a very distorted way (as natural scientists)