For John the only one to blame is only but himself for the things that happen to him, no one else. He took his own decisions and he was a really smart fella and a self aware one.
I had a friend who married a woman and he changed for the worse. After marrying this women this old friend of mine abandoned all the friends he had since he was a kid.
John Lennon was his own person, a bright one with a lot to say. He did some poor decisions, but unlike a lot of people, he publicly owned up to them. If he hasn't died so tragically, it would've been interesting to see how he would've responded to the Reagan era, and the excesses of 80s and 90s capitalism, the fall of the Iron Curtain, 9/11, Trump and the rise of the far-right. I'm sure it would've been with more than "silly lovesongs" and bean-based recipies, which might have cost him a few million bucks...but I'm sure he still would've had a very, very comfortable life. I'm sure he would've been very supportive of Julian and Sean's musical careers, too. If he were alive today, he would have had loads of time to make up his relationships, make new ones, live sober, and not have a broken life.
There is a beautiful part of a video in wich, while yoko is shouting at the microphone in the studio, the little daughter of McCartney, Stella, starts laughing. That’s the best critic to Yoko anti-art. I think Lennon needed a “mom” for psycological reasons. Before Yoko, his “mom” were the Beatles, espicially Paul with his kindness and sense of the limit. Then he found Yoko. As a person with depressive traits, Yoko saved his life but at the cost of limiting his personality by making him a child again. John lost his indipendence. One of the lowest points of Lennon’s career was "how do you sleep" in which he had the lyrics dictated by a jealous Yoko who wanted to further separate John and Paul.
Nothing against Yoko as a person or an artist and she made John happy, however I cannot argue against any of the points you make here, you cannot ignore the obvious. She was compatible with John just not compatible with music and thus The Beatles.
i just know for a fact 100% you have not even scratched the surface of her music. she has a beautiful voice and can write amazing songs. dig deeper than mere hearsay dude
If he'd stayed in England...Great video. Very insightful. Milk & Honey was gonna be one side Yoko, one side John but Yoko changed that because she knew ppl wouldn't listen to her side...nuff said.
These people grew up and grew older and changed dramatically. Maybe not so much Ringo. John seemed like a restless soul. The Beatles had run it's course, he wanted something different. Wow Between the late 50's and mid 70's John saw a lot of action.I couldn't imagine living Johns life.
The biggest change was not his songwriting it was his vocals. Beatle John vocals were strong, confident , and ballsy. Listen to him in the Yoko period. His vocals are all insecure and drenched in reverb. Almost a different artist .From what I read I believe the Yoko period was near the end when he died. I often wonder what would have come after .
I actually liked Yoko's contributions to "The White Album" (Revolution 9, and backing vocals on Birthday, etc) as it fit the vibe of the album (post psychedelic solo material embellished by the band) and there was no howling. Good that she was not on the following records as it didn't hit the vibe of those records. The rest of your thoughts on Lennon's solo career I'd tend to agree with. Yoko was not a musician (even though I believe she played piano) but was rather an artist. If you want to cross section and combine both areas into an endeavor, you still need to be proficient in both, and Yoko wasn't in music. I do like her solo art works, (I saw her exhibition in NYC) and like her Grapefruit book. I think she had an influence on his hit "Imagine" with the lyrics and video production. Lennon probably wouldn't have gone as far left as he did without Yoko. I suspect their relationship was quite complex, but then again, most relationships are.
"If you think you know me, or you have some part of me because of the music, and then you think I'm being controlled like a dog on a leash because I do things with her, then screw you, brother or sister, you don't know what's happening. I'm not here for you, I'm here for me and her, and now the baby."
@@dankosubmusic Yeah! Words are powerful, but not as much as actions. Throughout the video i pointed out how different the art was, when he was with and without her around. I don’t think she was a bad person at all, if anything she was a bit of a victim. But we’re talking about music and when it comes to that… mah
Indeed, she was a victim. However, Ono was one symptom of John's evolution as a person and an artist. Not a cause. Lennon was depressed and felt constricted by the Beatles and his homelife by '67. The avant garde direction of Two Virgins, the breakup of his marriage, and the more personal and political tone of his music, were him coming into his own authenticity, despite what the public felt.
I have never heard anyone raise the issue of her Japanese ethnicity. Would you please point out where anyone attacked her bc she was Japanese or that it had any role in her relationship with John Lennon. Thank you.
@@PoppysGuitar Well she was often called a “Nip” by the staff member of EMI studios, another thing you'd hear fans call her back then was “Dragon Lady”. There’s the famous Family Guy episode. However, i don’t necessarily think those jokes are terrible, i have a laugh with some of the things i read and saw, i just wanted to avoid seeing those type of things in the comments of this video. Maybe i exaggerated about the whole racism thing, but honestly i feel like i’ve read enough articles from back then that do take little jabs at her about her race. I've read the articles some time ago throughout my teenage years so quotation is kinda hard but im pretty sure you’ll find a few examples on google. Thanks for the comment!!
I like a lot of Yoko's material. Songs like Death of Samantha, Mrs. Lennon, and Give Me Something are really good. Mrs. Lennon particularly is stunning. I know I will get shot for this opinion but I think she's a competent musician.
I like that you pointed out that John Lennon was a grown adult when they did music together. I don't like Yoko's art too, but the discussion about her influence on Lennon's life often sounds like an attempt to absolve John of responsibility for his bad later albums.
I'm from Liverpool. Now this is a fact: Paul & John worked for a very simple reason, they each told the other what was BAD. If Lennon had a bad idea, McCartney told him it was bad and offered something better, if McCartney had a bad idea then Lennon told him it was bad & he offered something better. Enter Yoko........now John AND Paul no longer had each other & it all fell apart, and it REALLY is that simple. Yoko Ono DID ruin something, but it wasn't JUST John Lennon.
He grew up in a toxic household and he became toxic himself he abused his first wife and abandoned his son Julian. Yoko didn't do that to John he choose it himself. We often idolize musicians to the point that we think they cannot do no wrong.
@@SleepyEyeglasses-us2tn Yeah! I mean i talk about no personal issues on the video, or try not to. Most of what i said was about music since mixing the two of them is very tricky
The "political John Lennon" must be revisited. He was never that political as people think. Not saying he wasn’t, but he wasn’t the John Lenin some people claim. He was fighting against the war and being pro-peace and all those abstract flags the generation from the 60s waved. But it was superficial and it ended pretty quickly. Everyone was into politics for a while into that period. But when the decade ended and the war wasn’t over, many of those people got disillusioned with those ideals. That’s what happened to John. His last political leaning song was Freda People, from Mind Games. Great song by the way
@@Giofelippi Well yeah it was very superficial, not really trying yo say he was a major activist, but at least from 1968 to 72 i feel like the his music was plagued with it. However is it negative? Not really, many of my favorites often sing about politics and societal issues. Most of my ick comes from their childlike approach to these issues that were rooted in conflicts they were barely educated in. Or that’s how it feel for me, i admit that on this video, my opinion is as meaningful a grain of sand in the dessert, but i love talking about this stuff
@@Luna.reviews agree with you. Most songs weren’t bad because the guy was a genius. But I do think his approach was very childish. To be fair to him, I think he would’ve found hilarious that Imagine turned into a "world peace anthem" after he died
Well I agree with you about Yoko being a poor artist whether it's rock or haven't guard. There are laxatives to help that problem. But I don't think a whole boatload of laxatives would make her sing any better!
Don't let the comment section get you down. You have ears to hear (age has nothing to do with it) and can tell the difference between the earlier and later music. I have often thought that John's vocals were so much better early on and when he went into what I call his Dylan period, he lost some of the magic of his voice.
John would have gotten weird and flaky with anybody. They were both eccentric artists. The Beatles were struggling as a group anyway they were growing up and were LOADED.
You speak well but this video is too too long. Yes she fucked up the Beatles with John's help. How George ever produced Something and Here Comes The Sun with Yoko in the area is a tribute to him. When I lived in NYC ( 1980 ) I saw John and Yoko across the street. They looked happy. Didn't bother them. I wonder what Chuck Berry said after their song....
I don't care for Yoko's musical performances, but I do think she's an interesting person. When I watched "Get Back" I was expecting to be annoyed by Yoko based on all the rancor she's received, but to my great surprise the most annoying person by far was John Lennon!
ummm....just because someone may not like her, does not make them racist....HELLOOOO that accusation is getting pretty old and it's a cop out. A lot of people don't like her because she is not a likeable person and because of the things that she does. one example of many, is her refusal to give Julian any of his father's money, and there are a lot of other reasons as well
Here's a funny story that's absolutely true. I live in colorado. Yoko went on tour and was booked to play at Mile high stadium. That's a football venue man they had to cancel the show because only 28 tickets were sold. It was in 1985 or 86 I think she craves attention to the point where bad attention is better than no attention I guess. This is about the music the content is just nothing that I would even want to listen to. I've actually tried. Hoping maybe I'm wrong. I am absolutely right. So are you.
I like your channel. You don't have an opinion; you have criteria. Personally, I think that some of the songs he wrote for her and Sean at that time are really beautiful. To me Watching the Wheels, Beautiful Boy, or Woman are just awesome songs. Yoko fucked up a lot, but it did inspired John to write some classics.
I saw a Yoko Ono performance once and she was completely off the top shelf, I guess you have to be into that kind of thing but honestly she was making monkey/bird noises. I bit my lip 😂
I hate when people go on to criticize yoko ono and then do it from the perspective of her being a musician. She is a performance artist. All her past works are performance art so you assume this is as well.
@@un1corntooth Well, this is a music channel and i talked about her music releases. Music is a big part of her act, so i think its a good conversation topic
@@Luna.reviewstru tru. Separately i suggest you look at some of her early 60s work in art and performance art! Its very interesting and i feel like it explains a little bit more about the way she acts during her time collaborating with John Lennon :)
I love the songs John Lennon did in the White Album in 1968. Some of his best work. I'm so tired. Happiness is a warm gun. Dear Prudence. So, your thesis doesn't work.
@@Jaxy451 The songs in that album were written during their time in India, Yoko wasn’t around, but I guess what you say can also be applied to Abbey Road🧐 in that sense my thesis doesn’t work at all
Saying the politics is all yoko is sorta untrue, mind games was recorded with yoko there the whole time, plastic ono hand and imagine ante some of his best work, how did yoko ruin John? Is 3 exprerimental albums and sometimes in New York City career ruining? Absolutely not, John recovered quite quickly from stnyc
“Songs like instant Karma, Cold Turkey, and Happy Xmas are great songs that are ruined when you find out the meaning” uh no? Cold Turkey about his heroin withdrawal is a great song and an anti drug song, happy Xmas is literally a Christmas song about peace lol how is that controversial
@@rodog9465 yes she was there but it wasn’t a collaboration, Plastic Ono Band and Imagine did have politics in them but very different from the ones in STNYC. Three experimental albums, STNYC, Live Peace in Toronto and Double Fantasy and Milk and Honey
@@Luna.reviewsshe co produced the records, she co wrote imagine, I believe she co-wrote oh yoko and how do you sleep aswell. I agree that she isn’t a great artist or something I would even listen too, but I don’t think she ruined John’s work or even that John’s best work came without yoko, I think most people would agree that plastic ono band, imagine, then stnyc is a better three album run than, mind games, walls and bridges and rock n roll John Lennon. Idk 😂
@@rodog9465 I don't see Cold Turkey as an anti drug song, i actually feel like its the opposite. And Happy Christmas War is Over well idk man i think the lyrics are ridiculous, its nice on the surface but war was indeed not over, people were still being killed and continued to die for another 4 years or a bit more
@@rodog9465 At the time John gave her credits for everything, she's even credited as a songwriter in songs that John later on confirmed were written almost in complete isolation. Plus those albums are not fondly remembered for the production, his vocals are drowning in echo most of the time. I do get what you mean tho. I personally think that every time she's in the mix things go downhill, but Lennon had a massive part, the biggest part od the responsibility too.
You have the currently fashionable obsession with race race race race race; I RARELY ever hear even the slightest mention of Yoko Ono's ethnicity in public discussion of her and her endeavors. I'm fact, I am struggling to remember even ONE SINGLE MENTION of it.
@@shuroom57 Good! Im happy that’s the case! I personally have encountered it more than a few times on reddit and twitter. I said cause I didn’t want those type of things in the comments and actually i've had to delete 2 already.
She is literally described as a Japanese artist from the 60s in 90% of things written about her. And calling her Japanese cannot be racist she was born in Japan. And her family has been described as an affluent Japanese family.
I was around during the Beatles and Yoko generation and her being Japanese was an issue back then especially since many people alive in the sixties and seventies suffered immeasurably at the hands of the Japanese during WWII. Lennon himself commented on her race being an issue.
Men Going Their Own Way. M G T O W red pill Don't be a dick-head is the lesson of John and Yoko, Arthur and Guinevere, Romeo and Juliet, Charlie Brown and Lucy Van Pelt and the Book of Genesis, . . . ad infinitum?.
Here is what I believe to be the very worst worst worst worst Beatles cover in human history. MRS MILLER YELLOW SUBMARINE Seriously if you don't want to jump off the nearest balcony after listening to the song I'd be worried about you. But it's just so grinding. She was a novelty singer? Of the late 1960s. I'd rather listen to a whole Temple City kazoo orchestra album. And that's tough too. But not as bad as this. Help. I need somebody.
I think feminism played more a role in hurting John not Yoko yes she was a feminist and she made John one. But it wasn't bad until Sometime in New York. Feminism even in 1972 had a bad Rep. as bra burning hippies
I’m on the left myself and sympathetic to Some Time in New York City and by any standard the music is fine. I’m a huge fan of the late American folk singer Phil Ochs and perhaps the difference is that Phil was capable of nuance and his songs shifted between humour, irony, anger and sentiment and went into detail
If you investigate Lennon's life? You'll discover he ruined himself. In the Hamburg era, He was beaten up numerous times for things he said. (insulting Germans) He abandonded his wife and son. He along with George Harrison ate entirely too much LSD. This constant tripping had to have affected his perception of reality. Listen to any Yoko Ono song. Or any Yoko Ono background singing. It sucks so bad, tone deaf people complain. She must have held some business acumen that he agreed with, and her wacko sexuality. He ruined himself, his assassination cut short any opportunity for redemption. He was so loved, that in my mind his return to stability was always a possibility.
Why are we supposed to listen to you? You know nothing of John and Yoko. Were you even born before 2000? You have no idea what that world was like, and the historians always have agendas. I trust John himself over all these stale opinions. You've likely never dealt with all the hate and racism he got for meeting the one he was looking for. He didn't abandon his family, he expanded it. His first marriage was forced by circumstance, and he tried really hard to fulfill the husband role, but that wasn't his destiny.
Personally, I’ve never been a fan of Yoko Ono and I was around when she came on the scene as John’s girlfriend. But it’s just funny to see people who look like there may be about 18 given their opinion on what they think music is. I bet your earliest musical influence is probably some boy band or Taylor Swift. It sounds like you read some books and suddenly you know everything.
@@islandhorizonvideos8230My first were The Beatles back in 2009 when the Hey Jude video was posted. I know im young but i can 100% have an opinion based on the music i’ve heard and the stories. The internet is a thing you know? Actually i think the information we get nowadays is way more reliable than the tabloids you people had back in the 60s
On the contrary, the opinions of a young music fan such as this are absolutely reputable and valid; they are just listening to it with no emotional attachment to the era in question, the sort of nostalgia that older listeners such as you and I (66 years old) you may possess. I am very happy that newer generations of listeners are enthusiastic about the Beatles and their discography! It is a testament to the undeniable timeless nature of their composition skills, their creative impulses that resulted in so many engaging tracks from their years together. I just get sick of young people's obsession with race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race; I RARELY ever hear any mention of Yoko's ethnicity in public discussions of her cacophonic noise pollution, or her affection on John Lennon, period. One other commenter here went racism-hunting by suggesting that people accepted Linda McCartney's acceptance over Yoko's because Linda was "white and blond", which is just ridiculous, currently fashionable anti-whitism which, ironically, is as racist as you can get. Let's stick to the music, everybody, mmmbokay?
Yoko was very well known in the avanti garde in New York. London since the early 1960's. She did films, conceptual art, etc, It is racism. Linds wrote songs, sang with Paul but she is white and blonde and Yoko is oriental
That is such a ridiculous thing to say. Linda McCartney's sonic contributions go down like baby food. Yoko Ono's go down like ground glass. Race has nothing to do with that. You too have the currently fashionable obsession with race race race race race race race. Yoko could have been a bowl of vanilla ice cream with mayonnaise sauce, and she would be have received the same amount of vitriol.
@@shuroom57 YOU are mistaken! Look at Linda's contributions to Paul's songs and listen to her sing w/o studio effects. Nobody claims Linda broke up the Beatles.
No, you are perceiving racism that isn't there. That is a present day obsession. Bringing up Linda is nonsense. Her voice didn't sound like fingernails on a blackboard. Now jump on the opportunity to say "blackboards" are "RAYCISS". Race-baiting; it's your hobby, it's your passion. We get it.
I agree with you. John was largely responsible for breaking up the Beatles as Paul has said but he also said Yoko intruded on the rule the Beatles had which was “ no partners in the recording studio”. It might sound sexist but the truth was that the Beatles wanted no superfluous baggage to record with, just themselves and recording engineers while George Martin was in the control room. They concentrated on themselves and creating the songs in the most functional fashion possible. Guests could visit the control room but that’s all. Linda complied with this rule so she was acceptable. Yoko broke this rule so the other Beatles were fuming at this, understandably. On top of that, Yoko was abrasive in her manner. Race didn’t come into it .
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For John the only one to blame is only but himself for the things that happen to him, no one else. He took his own decisions and he was a really smart fella and a self aware one.
I had a friend who married a woman and he changed for the worse.
After marrying this women this old friend of mine abandoned all the friends he had since he was a kid.
John Lennon was his own person, a bright one with a lot to say. He did some poor decisions, but unlike a lot of people, he publicly owned up to them.
If he hasn't died so tragically, it would've been interesting to see how he would've responded to the Reagan era, and the excesses of 80s and 90s capitalism, the fall of the Iron Curtain, 9/11, Trump and the rise of the far-right. I'm sure it would've been with more than "silly lovesongs" and bean-based recipies, which might have cost him a few million bucks...but I'm sure he still would've had a very, very comfortable life.
I'm sure he would've been very supportive of Julian and Sean's musical careers, too. If he were alive today, he would have had loads of time to make up his relationships, make new ones, live sober, and not have a broken life.
There is a beautiful part of a video in wich, while yoko is shouting at the microphone in the studio, the little daughter of McCartney, Stella, starts laughing. That’s the best critic to Yoko anti-art.
I think Lennon needed a “mom” for psycological reasons. Before Yoko, his “mom” were the Beatles, espicially Paul with his kindness and sense of the limit. Then he found Yoko. As a person with depressive traits, Yoko saved his life but at the cost of limiting his personality by making him a child again. John lost his indipendence.
One of the lowest points of Lennon’s career was "how do you sleep" in which he had the lyrics dictated by a jealous Yoko who wanted to further separate John and Paul.
@@CRESCOCHANNEL Yesss i've seen that clip. Its honestly very depressing when you think about it, you’re totally right
I think you are on spot about How do you sleep.
Nothing against Yoko as a person or an artist and she made John happy, however I cannot argue against any of the points you make here, you cannot ignore the obvious. She was compatible with John just not compatible with music and thus The Beatles.
Music moves you or not. Her music moves. My Bowels.😮
Her music moves. The blood in my ears outside
i just know for a fact 100% you have not even scratched the surface of her music. she has a beautiful voice and can write amazing songs. dig deeper than mere hearsay dude
If he'd stayed in England...Great video. Very insightful. Milk & Honey was gonna be one side Yoko, one side John but Yoko changed that because she knew ppl wouldn't listen to her side...nuff said.
@@spaceengineer1452 i didn’t know that🥸 Would’ve been way better honestly
These people grew up and grew older and changed dramatically. Maybe not so much Ringo. John seemed like a restless soul. The Beatles had run it's course, he wanted something different. Wow Between the late 50's and mid 70's John saw a lot of action.I couldn't imagine living Johns life.
The biggest change was not his songwriting it was his vocals. Beatle John vocals were strong, confident , and ballsy. Listen to him in the Yoko period. His vocals are all insecure and drenched in reverb. Almost a different artist .From what I read I believe the Yoko period was near the end when he died. I often wonder what would have come after .
I actually liked Yoko's contributions to "The White Album" (Revolution 9, and backing vocals on Birthday, etc) as it fit the vibe of the album (post psychedelic solo material embellished by the band) and there was no howling. Good that she was not on the following records as it didn't hit the vibe of those records. The rest of your thoughts on Lennon's solo career I'd tend to agree with. Yoko was not a musician (even though I believe she played piano) but was rather an artist. If you want to cross section and combine both areas into an endeavor, you still need to be proficient in both, and Yoko wasn't in music.
I do like her solo art works, (I saw her exhibition in NYC) and like her Grapefruit book. I think she had an influence on his hit "Imagine" with the lyrics and video production. Lennon probably wouldn't have gone as far left as he did without Yoko. I suspect their relationship was quite complex, but then again, most relationships are.
"If you think you know me, or you have some part of me because of the music, and then you think I'm being controlled like a dog on a leash because I do things with her, then screw you, brother or sister, you don't know what's happening. I'm not here for you, I'm here for me and her, and now the baby."
@@dankosubmusic Yeah! Words are powerful, but not as much as actions. Throughout the video i pointed out how different the art was, when he was with and without her around. I don’t think she was a bad person at all, if anything she was a bit of a victim. But we’re talking about music and when it comes to that… mah
Indeed, she was a victim. However, Ono was one symptom of John's evolution as a person and an artist. Not a cause. Lennon was depressed and felt constricted by the Beatles and his homelife by '67. The avant garde direction of Two Virgins, the breakup of his marriage, and the more personal and political tone of his music, were him coming into his own authenticity, despite what the public felt.
Yeah this just racist bs
I have never heard anyone raise the issue of her Japanese ethnicity. Would you please point out where anyone attacked her bc she was Japanese or that it had any role in her relationship with John Lennon. Thank you.
@@PoppysGuitar Well she was often called a “Nip” by the staff member of EMI studios, another thing you'd hear fans call her back then was “Dragon Lady”. There’s the famous Family Guy episode.
However, i don’t necessarily think those jokes are terrible, i have a laugh with some of the things i read and saw, i just wanted to avoid seeing those type of things in the comments of this video.
Maybe i exaggerated about the whole racism thing, but honestly i feel like i’ve read enough articles from back then that do take little jabs at her about her race. I've read the articles some time ago throughout my teenage years so quotation is kinda hard but im pretty sure you’ll find a few examples on google.
Thanks for the comment!!
@@Luna.reviewsThank you for admitting you exaggerated a bit. I've lived far longer than you and only came across 2 examples from half a century ago.
John was already a nut!
I like a lot of Yoko's material. Songs like Death of Samantha, Mrs. Lennon, and Give Me Something are really good. Mrs. Lennon particularly is stunning. I know I will get shot for this opinion but I think she's a competent musician.
I like that you pointed out that John Lennon was a grown adult when they did music together. I don't like Yoko's art too, but the discussion about her influence on Lennon's life often sounds like an attempt to absolve John of responsibility for his bad later albums.
I'm from Liverpool. Now this is a fact: Paul & John worked for a very simple reason, they each told the other what was BAD. If Lennon had a bad idea, McCartney told him it was bad and offered something better, if McCartney had a bad idea then Lennon told him it was bad & he offered something better. Enter Yoko........now John AND Paul no longer had each other & it all fell apart, and it REALLY is that simple. Yoko Ono DID ruin something, but it wasn't JUST John Lennon.
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He grew up in a toxic household and he became toxic himself he abused his first wife and abandoned his son Julian. Yoko didn't do that to John he choose it himself. We often idolize musicians to the point that we think they cannot do no wrong.
@@SleepyEyeglasses-us2tn Yeah! I mean i talk about no personal issues on the video, or try not to. Most of what i said was about music since mixing the two of them is very tricky
The "political John Lennon" must be revisited. He was never that political as people think. Not saying he wasn’t, but he wasn’t the John Lenin some people claim. He was fighting against the war and being pro-peace and all those abstract flags the generation from the 60s waved. But it was superficial and it ended pretty quickly. Everyone was into politics for a while into that period. But when the decade ended and the war wasn’t over, many of those people got disillusioned with those ideals.
That’s what happened to John. His last political leaning song was Freda People, from Mind Games. Great song by the way
@@Giofelippi Well yeah it was very superficial, not really trying yo say he was a major activist, but at least from 1968 to 72 i feel like the his music was plagued with it. However is it negative? Not really, many of my favorites often sing about politics and societal issues. Most of my ick comes from their childlike approach to these issues that were rooted in conflicts they were barely educated in. Or that’s how it feel for me, i admit that on this video, my opinion is as meaningful a grain of sand in the dessert, but i love talking about this stuff
@@Luna.reviews agree with you. Most songs weren’t bad because the guy was a genius. But I do think his approach was very childish. To be fair to him, I think he would’ve found hilarious that Imagine turned into a "world peace anthem" after he died
no no no no the shrieking was why all that heard it live, began to lose their minds.
Well I agree with you about Yoko being a poor artist whether it's rock or haven't guard. There are laxatives to help that problem. But I don't think a whole boatload of laxatives would make her sing any better!
How about: John Lennon ruined his solo career through various means including allowing Yoko Ono to influence him...?
Lol. You are not wrong.
Well said
@@jacklewis4044 thanks!!
Don't let the comment section get you down. You have ears to hear (age has nothing to do with it) and can tell the difference between the earlier and later music. I have often thought that John's vocals were so much better early on and when he went into what I call his Dylan period, he lost some of the magic of his voice.
John would have gotten weird and flaky with anybody. They were both eccentric artists. The Beatles were struggling as a group anyway they were growing up and were LOADED.
Great to have a 16 year old with this hot take in 2024
I only hate Yoko for playing a role in John breaking up with Cynthia but i also hate John for that too
You speak well but this video is too too long. Yes she fucked up the Beatles with John's help. How George ever produced Something and Here Comes The Sun with Yoko in the area is a tribute to him. When I lived in NYC ( 1980 ) I saw John and Yoko across the street. They looked happy. Didn't bother them. I wonder what Chuck Berry said after their song....
I don't care for Yoko's musical performances, but I do think she's an interesting person. When I watched "Get Back" I was expecting to be annoyed by Yoko based on all the rancor she's received, but to my great surprise the most annoying person by far was John Lennon!
@@sammcbride2149 he was on heroin most of the time
ummm....just because someone may not like her, does not make them racist....HELLOOOO that accusation is getting pretty old and it's a cop out. A lot of people don't like her because she is not a likeable person and because of the things that she does. one example of many, is her refusal to give Julian any of his father's money, and there are a lot of other reasons as well
Here's a funny story that's absolutely true. I live in colorado. Yoko went on tour and was booked to play at Mile high stadium. That's a football venue man they had to cancel the show because only 28 tickets were sold. It was in 1985 or 86 I think she craves attention to the point where bad attention is better than no attention I guess. This is about the music the content is just nothing that I would even want to listen to. I've actually tried. Hoping maybe I'm wrong. I am absolutely right. So are you.
He was apparently attracted to her as she subconsciously reminded him of the “Madwoman” Aunt Mimi.
@@snomad2248 uhh, that’s… weird
I like your channel. You don't have an opinion; you have criteria. Personally, I think that some of the songs he wrote for her and Sean at that time are really beautiful. To me Watching the Wheels, Beautiful Boy, or Woman are just awesome songs. Yoko fucked up a lot, but it did inspired John to write some classics.
@@kichigan1 100% Just Like (Starting Over) is one of my favorite John Lennon songs ever!
I don't know about Yoko ruining John Lennon but she certainly ruined that song on The Beatles White album.
I saw a Yoko Ono performance once and she was completely off the top shelf, I guess you have to be into that kind of thing but honestly she was making monkey/bird noises. I bit my lip 😂
Bagism is hilarious , I personally love the image / but I'm a Yoko fan
This kid must be a “Paul” fan.
I hate when people go on to criticize yoko ono and then do it from the perspective of her being a musician. She is a performance artist. All her past works are performance art so you assume this is as well.
@@un1corntooth Well, this is a music channel and i talked about her music releases. Music is a big part of her act, so i think its a good conversation topic
@@Luna.reviewstru tru. Separately i suggest you look at some of her early 60s work in art and performance art! Its very interesting and i feel like it explains a little bit more about the way she acts during her time collaborating with John Lennon :)
@@un1corntooth I've checked out a few when i was doing an article about the flux movement. Any recommendations on where to start?
I love the songs John Lennon did in the White Album in 1968. Some of his best work. I'm so tired. Happiness is a warm gun. Dear Prudence. So, your thesis doesn't work.
@@Jaxy451 The songs in that album were written during their time in India, Yoko wasn’t around, but I guess what you say can also be applied to Abbey Road🧐 in that sense my thesis doesn’t work at all
Ethnicity and or race is not the issue. The issue is she is a very negative figure in his life who destroyed him.
The Beatles ended in Sept 1966!
Lennon was scum! The beatles were NOTHING w/o *George Martin* ! Brian Wilson #1 🇺🇲
justice for Yoko! an amazing artist and beautiful human
Your voice is so good for videos.
@@amyferguson8856 thanks! Is acrually the first time i've been told that
Keep your personal opinions to yourself and just tell it or leave it alone .
All I have to say is who cares what you think she made him happy that's all that matters.
Gold Digger is a race agnostic attribute
Don't agree. Yoko Ono saved John Lennon.
Saying the politics is all yoko is sorta untrue, mind games was recorded with yoko there the whole time, plastic ono hand and imagine ante some of his best work, how did yoko ruin John? Is 3 exprerimental albums and sometimes in New York City career ruining? Absolutely not, John recovered quite quickly from stnyc
“Songs like instant Karma, Cold Turkey, and Happy Xmas are great songs that are ruined when you find out the meaning” uh no? Cold Turkey about his heroin withdrawal is a great song and an anti drug song, happy Xmas is literally a Christmas song about peace lol how is that controversial
@@rodog9465 yes she was there but it wasn’t a collaboration, Plastic Ono Band and Imagine did have politics in them but very different from the ones in STNYC. Three experimental albums, STNYC, Live Peace in Toronto and Double Fantasy and Milk and Honey
@@Luna.reviewsshe co produced the records, she co wrote imagine, I believe she co-wrote oh yoko and how do you sleep aswell. I agree that she isn’t a great artist or something I would even listen too, but I don’t think she ruined John’s work or even that John’s best work came without yoko, I think most people would agree that plastic ono band, imagine, then stnyc is a better three album run than, mind games, walls and bridges and rock n roll John Lennon. Idk 😂
@@rodog9465 I don't see Cold Turkey as an anti drug song, i actually feel like its the opposite. And Happy Christmas War is Over well idk man i think the lyrics are ridiculous, its nice on the surface but war was indeed not over, people were still being killed and continued to die for another 4 years or a bit more
@@rodog9465 At the time John gave her credits for everything, she's even credited as a songwriter in songs that John later on confirmed were written almost in complete isolation. Plus those albums are not fondly remembered for the production, his vocals are drowning in echo most of the time.
I do get what you mean tho. I personally think that every time she's in the mix things go downhill, but Lennon had a massive part, the biggest part od the responsibility too.
expensive hotels and sneakin' out like 2 bums
You have the currently fashionable obsession with race race race race race; I RARELY ever hear even the slightest mention of Yoko Ono's ethnicity in public discussion of her and her endeavors. I'm fact, I am struggling to remember even ONE SINGLE MENTION of it.
@@shuroom57 Good! Im happy that’s the case! I personally have encountered it more than a few times on reddit and twitter. I said cause I didn’t want those type of things in the comments and actually i've had to delete 2 already.
She is literally described as a Japanese artist from the 60s in 90% of things written about her. And calling her Japanese cannot be racist she was born in Japan. And her family has been described as an affluent Japanese family.
I was around during the Beatles and Yoko generation and her being Japanese was an issue back then especially since many people alive in the sixties and seventies suffered immeasurably at the hands of the Japanese during WWII. Lennon himself commented on her race being an issue.
Listen to the music. Thn you all might learn to appreciate it.
Men Going Their Own Way.
M G T O W red pill
Don't be a dick-head is the lesson of John and Yoko, Arthur and Guinevere, Romeo and Juliet, Charlie Brown and Lucy Van Pelt and the Book of Genesis, . . . ad infinitum?.
Here is what I believe to be the very worst worst worst worst Beatles cover in human history.
MRS MILLER
YELLOW SUBMARINE
Seriously if you don't want to jump off the nearest balcony after listening to the song I'd be worried about you. But it's just so grinding. She was a novelty singer? Of the late 1960s. I'd rather listen to a whole Temple City kazoo orchestra album. And that's tough too. But not as bad as this. Help. I need somebody.
What a fantastic video have a wonderful day also I like the clean shave Luna ❤😅
@@aminahmed2220 10 years younger just like that huh?
I think feminism played more a role in hurting John not Yoko yes she was a feminist and she made John one. But it wasn't bad until Sometime in New York.
Feminism even in 1972 had a bad Rep. as bra burning hippies
but Phil Spector was a toxic mix with John
I’m on the left myself and sympathetic to Some Time in New York City and by any standard the music is fine. I’m a huge fan of the late American folk singer Phil Ochs and perhaps the difference is that Phil was capable of nuance and his songs shifted between humour, irony, anger and sentiment and went into detail
Y.O is trying to evoke responses
@@amyferguson8856 100%
If you investigate Lennon's life? You'll discover he ruined himself. In the Hamburg era, He was beaten up numerous times for things he said. (insulting Germans) He abandonded his wife and son. He along with George Harrison ate entirely too much LSD. This constant tripping had to have affected his perception of reality. Listen to any Yoko Ono song. Or any Yoko Ono background singing. It sucks so bad, tone deaf people complain. She must have held some business acumen that he agreed with, and her wacko sexuality. He ruined himself, his assassination cut short any opportunity for redemption. He was so loved, that in my mind his return to stability was always a possibility.
Why are we supposed to listen to you? You know nothing of John and Yoko. Were you even born before 2000? You have no idea what that world was like, and the historians always have agendas. I trust John himself over all these stale opinions. You've likely never dealt with all the hate and racism he got for meeting the one he was looking for. He didn't abandon his family, he expanded it. His first marriage was forced by circumstance, and he tried really hard to fulfill the husband role, but that wasn't his destiny.
Personally, I’ve never been a fan of Yoko Ono and I was around when she came on the scene as John’s girlfriend.
But it’s just funny to see people who look like there may be about 18 given their opinion on what they think music is.
I bet your earliest musical influence is probably some boy band or Taylor Swift.
It sounds like you read some books and suddenly you know everything.
@@islandhorizonvideos8230My first were The Beatles back in 2009 when the Hey Jude video was posted.
I know im young but i can 100% have an opinion based on the music i’ve heard and the stories. The internet is a thing you know? Actually i think the information we get nowadays is way more reliable than the tabloids you people had back in the 60s
Dude really? How much of a miserable ef are you? By your logic YOU cannot comment on anything that happened before 1950. STOP BEING A HATER.
On the contrary, the opinions of a young music fan such as this are absolutely reputable and valid; they are just listening to it with no emotional attachment to the era in question, the sort of nostalgia that older listeners such as you and I (66 years old) you may possess. I am very happy that newer generations of listeners are enthusiastic about the Beatles and their discography! It is a testament to the undeniable timeless nature of their composition skills, their creative impulses that resulted in so many engaging tracks from their years together. I just get sick of young people's obsession with race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race; I RARELY ever hear any mention of Yoko's ethnicity in public discussions of her cacophonic noise pollution, or her affection on John Lennon, period. One other commenter here went racism-hunting by suggesting that people accepted Linda McCartney's acceptance over Yoko's because Linda was "white and blond", which is just ridiculous, currently fashionable anti-whitism which, ironically, is as racist as you can get. Let's stick to the music, everybody, mmmbokay?
Yoko was very well known in the avanti garde in New York. London since the early 1960's. She did films, conceptual art, etc, It is racism. Linds wrote songs, sang with Paul but she is white and blonde and Yoko is oriental
That is such a ridiculous thing to say. Linda McCartney's sonic contributions go down like baby food. Yoko Ono's go down like ground glass. Race has nothing to do with that. You too have the currently fashionable obsession with race race race race race race race. Yoko could have been a bowl of vanilla ice cream with mayonnaise sauce, and she would be have received the same amount of vitriol.
Linda was Jewish not exactly free of prejudice, ever heard of anti-Semitism?
@@shuroom57 YOU are mistaken! Look at Linda's contributions to Paul's songs and listen to her sing w/o studio effects. Nobody claims Linda broke up the Beatles.
No, you are perceiving racism that isn't there. That is a present day obsession. Bringing up Linda is nonsense. Her voice didn't sound like fingernails on a blackboard.
Now jump on the opportunity to say "blackboards" are "RAYCISS". Race-baiting; it's your hobby, it's your passion. We get it.
I agree with you. John was largely responsible for breaking up the Beatles as Paul has said but he also said Yoko intruded on the rule the Beatles had which was “ no partners in the recording studio”. It might sound sexist but the truth was that the Beatles wanted no superfluous baggage to record with, just themselves and recording engineers while George Martin was in the control room. They concentrated on themselves and creating the songs in the most functional fashion possible. Guests could visit the control room but that’s all. Linda complied with this rule so she was acceptable. Yoko broke this rule so the other Beatles were fuming at this, understandably. On top of that, Yoko was abrasive in her manner. Race didn’t come into it .
This kid can't tell me shit about lennon...what is he 12 or something?