Randomly stumbling across your channel, you have reignited my love for the best game ever created and the first computer game I ever played +20years ago after being in awe watching my dad play. I cannot begin to express my joy knowing this game is not only still alive, but thriving and still somehow holding as best game ever. A pleasure watching you cast all these pro games, especially lately with Flash.
So what is crazy about Flash's game is he looks like actually winning even though he lost some point. In this game, (although he got lost anyway) Flash does had a slight advantage on his expansion and production while he lost in the vulture battle in the center, which led to a slight advantage on siege lining on the center. His optimization is on another level so those who don't know much feels like there's something magic going on his game.
So glad to see Wraiths in TvT. That's how foreigners played TvT back in the early 2000s: Tank/Wraith/Turret with a large mineral bank and lots of turtling as we were too noob to use vultures properly 🤣
I started watching your casts 6 months ago(I wish I could watch your streams but the TTS is just too much, lol). I'm new to watching Pro BW, and I missed the "Flash Era" so I find these streams very entertaining to see how someone known as a legend reacts to the new meta's. Honestly I would be fine with the next 10 streams all being flash vs X. I can't wait to see how he adapts and gets back in shape.
I remember both of them doing offrace games (PvZ) years ago, each alternating between Protoss and Zerg every game. I forgot who won the series. It would be cool if theh did that once again
Loved the ideas Flash had in the second game. I feel like he's still a bit rusty though, which is totally understandable. I think the whole game came down to Flash making sloppy plays here and there which caused him to gradually fall behind on supply
So at about 7:00 in, Flash attacks with his vultures and loses a bunch for basically no advantage, mines were close to finishing, should he have waited and used those mines first to get more value before throwing them away?
Idea: hand and brain SC1. One player is played by actually two players. One controls micro and macro while the other dictates the plan. Build order, what to do and so on. In this way players that are strategically good, could actually pair with players that can deliver mechanically. So the player that is in control focuses on delivering via APM, while the player that is watching decides the meta, freeing the APM player of a decision layer. In that way one could see if Light really can consistently deliver (provided that he pairs with a player that can execute his plans)
I haven't played in over a decade, but I used to mix in 1-2 wraiths regularly in every matchup. Do they ever accomplish much? No. But your opponent is going to have to do something to respond to it, and it's generally limited to 2 or 3 different practical responses, all of which end up either costing more than those wraiths cost, or having my opponent choose some sub-optimal army choice or an unexpected expense which ultimately delays certain tech or upgrades upgrades to deal with those wraiths. As an example, in TVP with opponent going shuttle/reaver: wraiths don't show up early enough to be effective against the initial reaver harass, but I've found that once you show you built 1 or 2 wraiths, your opponent is much less likely to continue trying to harass when you have 2 wraiths compared to several turrets. And 2 wraiths are cheaper than those turrets. Plus they have to either put cannons to prepare for cloaked wraith harass as a possibility, or build a couple of extra observers themselves. I love seeing pros make use of wraiths in modern play. I always felt that they weren't used to their full potential.
TvT is the only mirror matchup that is actually fun to watch imo. That was a real all out war! You only see the controlling of a map like that with a good mech play. Thanks for casting.
Love it. Those 2 Terran players really have different playing styles. First of all, Light, very good in building wraiths and built up his armies with many units combined. Flash, on the other hand, he likes making sudden attacks such as drops and some counter attacks. Nice match up.
The real question is who is second best, Light and then you have to think about Last who has 2 star leagues, also Rush is in the running as sometimes as well
Snow and Light may be considered the best. But they always seem to choke in ASL, especially Snow. I think he doesn't do as well under pressure but absolutely dominates on the ladder and non-asl tournaments. Thanks for noticing how smart and cool I am Artosis! Love you too♥
Flash did a pretty good job considering he is not in the pro gaming for a long time on a game like Starcraft, and the fact that he surprise Light in the second match with his build...How man if Flash get back to his level of execution pro ASl gamer should be worried.
I think I know what triggered them to not go 5 fact and pump out vultures, and it's that it feels like some sort of horrible coin flip. Sure Light got the advantage and won that game, but he probably knows it's just as likely he will lose that way as it is he will win, so it just feels like gambling.
Its got to be Soulkey with back to back ASL victories compared to Light who went out in the Ro24 in ASL 16 and Ro16 in ASL 17, and Snow who went out in the Ro16 in ASL 16 and lost to Soulkey in the Ro4 in ASL 17. I don't think a player has ever been as strong in any era of BW as Soulkey is right now.
@@Picaroon9 Soulkey is dominating in ultimate battles and best of series. In proleague not as dominant but when its a series, he has won everything he's played since ASL victory.
@@Picaroon9 Are you serious in saying: no player has ever been as strong in any era of BW as SK is right now? lmao that's very stupid to say or maybe recency bias getting the best of you.
At 20 minutes artosis says that dropship isnt gonna do anything then those 4 vultures got past the wraith and then killed the siege tank and harassed the 4th base... We missed all the action thanks to artosis.
FlashLight
best comment xDDD
Understandable, have a good day.
lol
FleshLight?
@@DirkyDiggz hahaha!!!!
Poor Stemkoski kids must stay strong. They won't see their father for months because Flash is is active again.
Few other channels have a lot more coverage on flash games but… They just aren’t as good as you bro. Love the longevity on the passion. Keep it up.
They're pretty much unwatchable to me at this point...
Only someone with such passion could love and hate a game so much at the same time.
I genuinely laughed at your opening today. Love it.
Randomly stumbling across your channel, you have reignited my love for the best game ever created and the first computer game I ever played +20years ago after being in awe watching my dad play.
I cannot begin to express my joy knowing this game is not only still alive, but thriving and still somehow holding as best game ever.
A pleasure watching you cast all these pro games, especially lately with Flash.
So what is crazy about Flash's game is he looks like actually winning even though he lost some point. In this game, (although he got lost anyway) Flash does had a slight advantage on his expansion and production while he lost in the vulture battle in the center, which led to a slight advantage on siege lining on the center. His optimization is on another level so those who don't know much feels like there's something magic going on his game.
I love how often it just looks like Flash is playing a *conpletely different game* than his opponent.
They are both playing StarCraft?
@@joshuanorthey2026 It's a figure of speech.
@@joshuanorthey2026 I’m retarded?
@@siosilvar how can speech have a figure? it's just sound.
@@susugam3004 how can a typed comment be speech? it's light
With all the stuff TTS says, and all the things arty says to his opponents, hearing him call someone a sneaky snake is really funny to me
So glad to see Wraiths in TvT. That's how foreigners played TvT back in the early 2000s: Tank/Wraith/Turret with a large mineral bank and lots of turtling as we were too noob to use vultures properly 🤣
Love the Rebrand. I've subbed an additional 2 times because of it.
Very interesting second game. I hope Flash keeps evolving to the current strategies, I loved to watch him in the past!
Flash returns = Artie’s channel explodes!
That’s a win win in my books!
Woot woot!
I started watching your casts 6 months ago(I wish I could watch your streams but the TTS is just too much, lol). I'm new to watching Pro BW, and I missed the "Flash Era" so I find these streams very entertaining to see how someone known as a legend reacts to the new meta's. Honestly I would be fine with the next 10 streams all being flash vs X. I can't wait to see how he adapts and gets back in shape.
Flash vs Snow next ?
snow already won 5-0 against him not so long ago if i recall
@@neitron90 really ? When it was played ?
@@neitron90 Flash 4-0'd snow in their most recent ASL (2019) what do you mean lol
@@nesssixteen6106 on ladder some months ago
@@nesssixteen6106 he means that flash came back a year ago and got his ass handed to him by snow in training games
just now learning this game. imagine sc1 terran with the sc2 "idle worker" button...
Loving the channel rebrand XD
Love the rebrand
Ah yes ArtosisCastsFlash. My favorite channel
I remember both of them doing offrace games (PvZ) years ago, each alternating between Protoss and Zerg every game. I forgot who won the series. It would be cool if theh did that once again
I love it, keep these coming!
Light had a dropship in Flashes main ALL game and Flash did nothing 😂
Jim Raynor
what about Duke
@@Illyrian_AdventuresBros dead as hell.
Loved the ideas Flash had in the second game. I feel like he's still a bit rusty though, which is totally understandable. I think the whole game came down to Flash making sloppy plays here and there which caused him to gradually fall behind on supply
And people say all TvT is boring.
A lot of the time I'm surprised how entertaining they are, but it never seems to change my overall feeling of "ugh, I don't want to watch a TvT".
still the second least interesting matchup
TvT is my favorite. I hate ZvZ.
at least zvz is short, which is a nice change of pace after a tvt
So at about 7:00 in, Flash attacks with his vultures and loses a bunch for basically no advantage, mines were close to finishing, should he have waited and used those mines first to get more value before throwing them away?
that’s one salty opening speech lol
I would be too if I had a chat a tenth as obnoxious as his
🧂🧂🧂😅🙃
Idea: hand and brain SC1. One player is played by actually two players. One controls micro and macro while the other dictates the plan. Build order, what to do and so on.
In this way players that are strategically good, could actually pair with players that can deliver mechanically. So the player that is in control focuses on delivering via APM, while the player that is watching decides the meta, freeing the APM player of a decision layer.
In that way one could see if Light really can consistently deliver (provided that he pairs with a player that can execute his plans)
Archon mode?
Ggs, love to see Flash back
ArtosistCastsFlash my favorite channel :)
Can someone explain why @7:42 the mine is not triggered by Light's vultures??
Vultures do not trigger mines. Same with Archons, and workers.
I haven't played in over a decade, but I used to mix in 1-2 wraiths regularly in every matchup. Do they ever accomplish much? No. But your opponent is going to have to do something to respond to it, and it's generally limited to 2 or 3 different practical responses, all of which end up either costing more than those wraiths cost, or having my opponent choose some sub-optimal army choice or an unexpected expense which ultimately delays certain tech or upgrades upgrades to deal with those wraiths.
As an example, in TVP with opponent going shuttle/reaver: wraiths don't show up early enough to be effective against the initial reaver harass, but I've found that once you show you built 1 or 2 wraiths, your opponent is much less likely to continue trying to harass when you have 2 wraiths compared to several turrets. And 2 wraiths are cheaper than those turrets. Plus they have to either put cannons to prepare for cloaked wraith harass as a possibility, or build a couple of extra observers themselves.
I love seeing pros make use of wraiths in modern play. I always felt that they weren't used to their full potential.
Keep it coming!
“Flash works on mysterious ways”
The good book says that god moves on mysterious ways so it checks out
19:18 missed the drop in the main
Can't wait to watch this after I'm done at work!!!! HYPE
Just thankful for this matchup
14:55 classic Arty for those who follow his streams...
TvT is the only mirror matchup that is actually fun to watch imo. That was a real all out war! You only see the controlling of a map like that with a good mech play. Thanks for casting.
pvp is also fun because of how crazy things can get
Love it. Those 2 Terran players really have different playing styles.
First of all, Light, very good in building wraiths and built up his armies with many units combined.
Flash, on the other hand, he likes making sudden attacks such as drops and some counter attacks. Nice match up.
woah since when did sc1 have production tab
Spoiler blocker
Flash bless you
Thank You Bro 💛🙏
Those were the most equal mirrors I can remember.
LOVED IT just insane
I was waiting for the valkiries.
Love to see them in TvT.
3:33 Jack Black commentates SC???
The real question is who is second best, Light and then you have to think about Last who has 2 star leagues, also Rush is in the running as sometimes as well
Snow and Light may be considered the best. But they always seem to choke in ASL, especially Snow. I think he doesn't do as well under pressure but absolutely dominates on the ladder and non-asl tournaments.
Thanks for noticing how smart and cool I am Artosis! Love you too♥
Keep flashlightin us
I love wraiths in TvT sm. I don't play, just enjoy, but they always seem to me like one of the most situationally OP units in this matchup.
I dont normally like TvT but holy shit…. ITS FLASH VS LIGHT!
TURN ON THE HEATER, IM GETTIN’ CHILLS MA!
This reminds me of Light Yagami vs. L from DeathNote anime!
21:03 atomic mine
One can simply say that Light is the mastermind (with no Flash in the scene) though his execution doesn't always deliver.
6:44 / 30:28
8:34 / 30:28
16:37 / 30:28
Best is secretly the best Terran 😮
Secretly? His names literally "Best" 😂
Plz include name and race in title, for easier reference.
FLASH GAMES ALL DAYTOSIS LETS GOOOO
GG thanks for the game RT
Long, long time I saw a TvT
So excited flash is back but I love seeing light keep up the good fight
2nd game, flash just keep throwing away units for nothing?
Who's the BEST Terran? Artosis ofc
flash light..... are we sure these aren't the same people?
Flash did a pretty good job considering he is not in the pro gaming for a long time on a game like Starcraft, and the fact that he surprise Light in the second match with his build...How man if Flash get back to his level of execution pro ASl gamer should be worried.
2 scan beasts 😮
I think I know what triggered them to not go 5 fact and pump out vultures, and it's that it feels like some sort of horrible coin flip. Sure Light got the advantage and won that game, but he probably knows it's just as likely he will lose that way as it is he will win, so it just feels like gambling.
Oh I definitely agree with your assessment about what it is. But the decision making process they have is hard to see.
I love a good Terran victory!!!
it's a gas gas gas ...
Artosis is the best Terran.
"I don't respect anyone who uses dropship play."
wooooot!!!! flash vs light
lets fucking goooo!!!
Lim Yo-hwan BoxeR
More flash!!!
Did Light know that he was playing against Flash here?
I think everyone knows FlaSh's barcode from now.
hello, toilet Artosis
The better terran players in the world.... No more words
when you shit talk any terran player, you're talking shit to artosis as well
hot off the press
only flash can make me watch a tvt
Great game 2! TvT remains one of the best matchups.
I saw the two best Terrans on the picture and I stopped everything, grabbed some munchies and started watching. TY RT! HF Everyone ! 😁
Have others just got way better during his hiatus? Or is Flash just rusty? Previously he'd stomp in TvT.
Game 1 ... same thought as Artosis: Haunting ZvZ roach fights...
FLASH! AH-AHH!
ok I'm done with this joke.
more flash more more more
Are flash and light friends? Real question.
So, who's the best player in the world rn? Snow? Light? Soulkey?
yes
Its got to be Soulkey with back to back ASL victories compared to Light who went out in the Ro24 in ASL 16 and Ro16 in ASL 17, and Snow who went out in the Ro16 in ASL 16 and lost to Soulkey in the Ro4 in ASL 17. I don't think a player has ever been as strong in any era of BW as Soulkey is right now.
If Soulkey wins one more ASL season he will deserve bonjwa status IMO.
@@Picaroon9
Soulkey is dominating in ultimate battles and best of series. In proleague not as dominant but when its a series, he has won everything he's played since ASL victory.
@@Picaroon9 Are you serious in saying: no player has ever been as strong in any era of BW as SK is right now? lmao that's very stupid to say or maybe recency bias getting the best of you.
Flash is the 2nd best. Only Artosis is better!!!
I am a simple man, I see artosis casting (because artosisTV is too negative IMO) and I like.
Fantasy
Someone make a better logo for Artosis plz
when u polish jew like arty you must watch. Even though gay, must watch.
Dafuq?
Arty is the moss on the side of the tree that tells you which direction the sun is.
FLASH. WOULD. OF. ONE.
ArtosisCastsFlash 😂
Flash wouldn't promote Battle Aces
Ooooo Good game!!!
At 20 minutes artosis says that dropship isnt gonna do anything then those 4 vultures got past the wraith and then killed the siege tank and harassed the 4th base... We missed all the action thanks to artosis.
The incredibly stubborn refusal by almost all pro Terrans to make any anti air in both TvP and TvT is DRIVING ME FKIN INSANE!!!
Flash did not refuse to make anti air, he went for mass wraiths too. But it took too long to build mass of them.
@@ObeliskM he completely ignored them for like solid 4 minutes and got pushed out of all the most important positions because of that.
Vulture wars is like ZvZ lings :D
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