FEAR THESE MUTAS. | CNSL 7
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- ro32 Group D - yoon (Z), XuanXuan (T), Paralyze (P), HiyA (T)
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I love watching these games
I've been loving these CNSL casts, really suprised to hear the viewership isn't as high people are missing out
Love that you take time to do more of the "Here's why this is a bad decision" or, "I'll tell you why he is going to do this" - stuff. Really helps someone like me who has only ever played SCII! :)
SC:BW is definitely the game that takes a lot of patience and has a decent sized skill gap increase. I main SC2 as well and there's too much cheese since it's gone F2P but BW seems to have it a lot as well. Sad reality
20:20 - "This is gonna trigger a bunch of gay dads." - Artosis, 2024
Had to rewind
LOL
LOVE this CNSL series, Artosis. Lower viewer count on the CNSL stuff is probably because of the longer format, which I prefer, but not everyone else does.
Hey, at least the audio is great *ahem* unlike ASL.
Keep it up man, your passion is infectious!
Yeah, I love these longer series as well, but I'm not the kind of person who watches the daily cast with my morning coffee. There's probably a chunk of people for whom an hour+ video just isn't a realistic watch in the time frame they have.
Also, love watching these guys from the tier under the world best! It's great to see more players, I love the strangeness that sometimes comes from not 100% polished builds. Great time overall :)
I'm definitely loving CNSL as much as you! It's not just entertaining to see players that make mistakes, but i learn more watching players make the mistakes that i would make, instead of just players who are so far beyond my skill level that even their mistakes completely outplay my skill level. I could watch tournaments at this level every weekend for a year and never get tired of it.
I like this type of tournament games more than regular ladder casts because the games mean more. The players will try harder when there is more on the line and it also builds a narrative as the tournament goes deeper, which can be fun to follow.
So do keep it up!
Im here to block spoilers and chew bubble gum but im all out of gum...
Appreciate it. Ty buddy
@@mitchwaddell25no problem its collective effort
This getting more creative as times go, well done
I read mutas but it's more than one game.
You can chew my bubble gum bb 😉
Loving this commentating series.
Same
That dark Templar gave me life. Not so much those drones, but for me yes 😂
Kinda sad to know that the viewership is lower. Really loving the CNSL. So exciting to watch the quality of these players and of your videos!! I'm loving it nearly as much as you do, Arty!
intimidating and left for later/the weekend because long
Noobs: Me make many turret fite moota
RT: NOOOO YOU HAVE TO OPTIMIZE TURRET PRODUCTION AND LOCATIONS!!!1!!
Pros: Me make many turret to fite moota
I like how the pros have better grammar than the noobs
@TheSuperappelflap Pros now-a-days are not the pros of old, standards have gone down bahaha
I love to see the best of the best, but tournaments like this help you see a wider variety of players. That's why I like stuff like this so much, thanks!
That DT drop in the main while simultaneously moving out to attack, so Yoon was distracted long enough was chilling and awesome to watch. Wow!!!!! 😮
That was incredible.
That DT drop! This dude is absolutely insane
Man these casts are amazing. Loving the new format for CNSL videos. Your analysis is what makes these videos epic! Great to see other tournaments of BW getting covered
these casts are single handedly getting me into brood war.
I watch all your casts but this tournament has been my favorite. Probably because it gives us so much time listening to you talk about SC.
Loving the CNSL! Very happy to have another great tournament.
Loving CNSL thanks for giving these players a chance to shine in English! I’m wondering if viewership is lower on these due to the long runtimes. I watch in the morning before work and I have time to enjoy a game, but not four all at once!
I love the invisible men.
Paralyze: 'i am kinda Snow sometimes' the opponent: 'no, you arent'
He builds even more shuttles than Snow!
but then throws them away randomly@@sti8116
Hopefully viewership picks up now ASL is over. I know I personally didn't want to start watching a new tournament until ASL was done, but now it's over I'm working my way through all the CNSL videos. I really like that you've put each group in a single video rather than lots of small ones, and I'm loving the addition of graphics at the start and end of each group - makes it feel even more like an ASL for the pros and semi-pros that failed to qualify. Thanks for the effort Artosis!
I love the CNSL casts, I think they are a lot easier to follow than the daily uploads, especially since going back to old videos has the danger of clicking on one that is part of a series and getting spoiled on the current score. The CNSL casts feel much more organized and have a lot more tension since there is a bracket of sorts.
To add to this - I would love to see you go back and cast through old tournaments if that was ever something that was interesting to you! I am a newer viewer to Brood War and I always hear about so many amazing players that don't play now, would be awesome to see stuff with some of those classic tournaments.
These are so fun to watch, I find it more exciting than the one off games you usually do and I love that there's so much content to devour.
Im really liking these “Code A” series ! CNSL is really entertaining it’s really nice to see good players who don’t necessarily make it to asl !
Hey RT, one thing I'd suggest for these longer videos is to put timestamps or chapters in the video pointing to the start of each match (spoiler free for the winners and losers matches, of course). This might help viewer retention. One reason why these CNSL casts don't get the same viewership is probably that they are just too long for many people, adding timestamps could help with that. It's personally taken me several days to catch up with these matches, and I still have your other normal ladder casts that you've posted in between to catch up on as well.
Great cast. Keep casting CNSL
It is not that it is worse than the regular cast, I think, but maybe viewership is lower because it is a much bigger commitment to sit down for roughly an hour to watch this in one go rather than the shorter regular casts. I watch them anyway, but maybe that's why. Keep it up Arty, your enthusiasm got me into these after finding about you through some equal parts infamous and hilarious mouth cam in some ancient video a friend shared with me. Having lunch with your casts ever since I found this channel.
I love the CNSL casts, honestly even more than the average daily cast, which i also love!
Paralyze's building placement is sooo clean ASMR
Hey RT, thanks again! A reason for the lower amount of viewers might be that this is a period of time with a lot of long ENG BW casts: ASL, KCM and CNSL. I'm doing my best to keep up and am succeeding barely in that, but I guess it can be too much for a lot of people. Perhaps it's unrelated, just a thought. Keep up the good work!
Love CNSL
With lower viewcount: It might be because the longer videos on this channel are usually direct-from-stream videos. I personally don't watch those, and that might be the case for others. So they may just not even click on the CNSL vids. But looking at it, it's also not dramatically lower. Keep it up, I enjoy these CNSL videos :)
Loving this CNSL!, glad that you are making this content :)
Keep doing please, I just became aware and I'm hooked. Keep it up Arty.
Cracked casting RT, well done. Enjoying CNSL!
Really enjoying these! The production is perfect. Looks good but doesn't waste any time between games. All I can say is take care of yourself, this is a lot of casting!
I enjoy the long form content! Love the story rather than a single game!
These games are sick!!! Amazing tournament
This is great, I think there's just a large volume of videos coming in so people don't have the time. I predict a steady rise in viewership over time. I know I find myself without time to watch the whole videos every single day, I catch up later sometimes.
nice play from the first player to advance, impressed
A lot of the single replays seem to be from tournaments but with all the context lost. I really love seeing the whole tournament so you can appreciate all the ups and downs.
Watching the DT kills go up in sync with its attack speed while keeping the main fight in view... That was good.
By the way, there's a ton of SC to watch right now, and there are only so many hours in the day, so don't look to much into it. I am enjoying this as much as ASL and you are at the top of your game right now.
I watch your casts on a daily basis and absolutely love CNSL, even tho i played my last SC:BW match maybe 15+ years ago. Probably many of your regular viewers think that there's not much to learn from these "low" tier players so that`s why the count isn`t that high. I`ll keep watching CNSL as long as you consider it's worth the time to cast them.
People are just missing out on how fun this games are to watch
RT, I'm loving this tournament, thanks! About the viewership, it could help splitting these into shorter videos (< 30 mins), many people (me included) can watch perhaps one game per stand.
Please go back to just player names in the title. Last thing people want in a tournament is spoilers.
29:32 It looks like Paralyze has a trapped Dark Templar there.
How many times have we seen what happened in the Hiya vs. Paralyze game - the protoss goes up to a couple more bases than the Terran and then can just throw units at the Terran without much regard for how the battles go, because they can replenish faster with a superior economy. It feels like in such a situation the T simply MUST try to destroy some P bases or get a few additional of their own. Obviously this is the case for all matchups, but the "throw units at them till they die" seems especially common in PvT because of the generally turtling nature of the T - they're good at defending lines so that's what they do, but "being good at defending lines" simply means "trading better in battles where you're defending" which doesn't matter to the P because they can just throw units.
can really feel your anger in this cast
Artys editor puts the wrong title on the video, I’m getting chills!
Funny these get less views, I watch arty cast to fall asleep every night and it works so well I give these longer videos 6-10 views instead of the 1-3 for the single game videos. Love u arty keep it up
CNSL is awesome, hope continue cover it as well
I'm loving this cast these players are just godly
That first vulture of Hiya got some probe kills too.
It's called area denial, and bunkers excel at it. Yes that bunker was killing it, in that it was keeping the mutas off the barracks; while turrets would be as dead as your marine production.
Also, what good is a cheap turret, when you end up having to rebuild it 3 times.
I'm telling ya RT, a bunker (with actual marines in it) at the top of each mineral line, is the new meta. Ya heard it here, first..
Its definitely not lol its just not worth it. Its not worth the opportunity cost for your supply, its not worth the minerals, especially because you have to spend more upfront.
It doesnt even deny the area that well. A single marine kills a muta in about 15 seconds. If you add 3 more marines, youve now spent a total of 4 turrets worth of minerals, 60 seconds of racks time, and half a supply depot on protecting a mineral line that you could have just protected with....four turrets.
Protecting both mineral lines and your production is 12 to 16 turrets of minerals, 3 to 4 minutes of racks production, and 12 to 16 dead supply sitting at home.
Yeah that might work in d rank lol
Bunkers are a very heavy investment. Their best use is in front of the natural or built at the ramp of a 3rd base. You can't afford to just build them everywhere, and in order for them to be as good as a missile turret they need at least 2 marines in them. The reason some of us say to build a bunker by the barracks is because we see a lot of games TvZ where mutas get on top of the barracks and the game is over. Xuan still lost the game but at least he lasted a little bit longer by doing that..lurkers had to come to finish him off instead. I do understand why Arty disdains it though, it's basically admitting you're outclassed by that zerg opponent.
zerg can just expand 3 times and if you empty the bunkers to attack the mutas have free reign, and if you dont empty the bunkers and attack you're missing a bunch of marines
Put a ghost in it. He has as much dps as unupgraded marine and has a sick long range.
Too bad it's useless at this point in the game. But if I could resque a neutral ghost, I'd deffinatelly put him in the bunker to protect the base from the mutalisks.
When he says schon schon i think of Mario going down the pipe.
I feel old for understanding that reference. LOL
Loving this series Artosis
Sorry for the spam on comments. But you have helped me to understand this game at a higher level than i could have ever on my own. You explain and teach very well Artosis💯👌
Loving the tournament.
Love the tournament content. I'd guess the lower view count is purely because of the longer video times compared to Artosis's normal posts
Viewership is probably down because people assume it's one of those discord call videos that are hard to watch 😂
I'd love a video on how to do certain mico, like drilling workers, moving shot, etc. Common techniques that require a bit of skill, knowledge and practice to do
Artosis. My dog named Dirk Nibbler will be turning 14 on 04/09 and I'm hoping you can give him a b-day shout out on the big day.
Love the CNSL!
I can’t believe they did a drop ship firebat harass in the mineral line
I really enjoy cour game casts!
AMAZING Protoss PvT play! wow
Weekend Broodwar to tie over until ASL R16 comes out!! Thanks Arty
Artie, so with 1h videos there’s no way to tell how long each match is going to be. Is it possible to make your future videos 1h long and if the game you’re casting is, say, 20 min, the other 40 min is filled with whatever white noise?
I think you should keep the thumbnails consistent so I know that a particular video is actually the tournament at a glance.
Also the viewership might be down because we're having ASL and GSL at the same time as this. Those two tournaments have view priority for me over CNSL so while I'm working through those this is on the back burner.
Thank you for this. Please keep it going. I'll dono more if I have to.
lol that tvt was so sad no bunker, gotta take those minerals with you into the next game.
8:26 - I NEVER WANT TO HEAR YOU SAY "I WANT IT THAT WAY". NEVER SAY IT AGAIN GUY IN THE CHAT
I am really excited to watch the games of the bonjwa Hyuk tomorrow?
what a slaughterfest that first game
I think one of the reasons the viewership is potentially "worse" is the immediate results. Speaking for myself I actually really like these casts as much as ASL which is why when I sit down to watch them I want to make sure I have the 1hr+ to catch all the nuisances you drop. Where as daily upalods are part of my daily routine in the AM. If they are in fact just worse overall even over time then I'll shut up 😂just my thoughts.
I love these videos, but some folks are probably scared by the long run time.
It's nice that even pros can have a tough time
The channel is so dope
Yeah I'm enjoying it
Until recently I avoided these video recommendations as I thought it was similar to your other tournament videos (stream VOD upload with worse commentary). Maybe others thought similarly?
I definitely missed out though, this format is great!
Could you look to cast more Snow games? His Reaver play in ASL has got me hungry for more Snow Clinics.
Keep em coming RT!
Zealot drops are some real old school bad-assery. Yeah it did nothing but damn that's cool.
Feedback: I love the tournament, but longer clips is difficult. I like watching one match at a time.
Hi Dan
As a long time follower of who prefer casts like this tournement format of bw, I have not heard you mention it / any advertisement on the secret podcasts or asl or anything so i believe many like me are unaware of these casts. (feedback on your comment regarding it being less popular than your other content i think this is great)
I really like CNSL. It seems like some of these players just fall off the face of the earth on your channel just because they're not the "top-top" cut, so these games are great.
8:31 - And it's worse .... Same price as 2 turrest WHILE using 1 supply, lol.
As for the lower viewership, I am enjoying CNSL and this format but if I had to take a guess on why there's less views than normal, it's because of the longer format (ie. an hour+) but I usually just prefer leaving on a longer series like this while playing myself or working on stuff
Love the CNSL coverage. It's just unfortunate that it's overlapping with the ASL, which I prioritize.
It looks like the viewer count is starting to catch up over time.
Greaaaat games!
I enjoy these matches. You mentioned viewership being low - i don't know if it plays into it, but i do find myself doing away from longer videos. I don't know if views would be higher with each match in its own video, Even if you released the same amount of content, just across multiple videos. Just a thought. You know your viewers better than me
Ay RUclips let's get Brood War goin bud!! (doin my part)
That first game was really cool to see, the skill disparity between an average S rank terran vs strong zerg pro. Felt like the pro was sandbagging in D tier.
may i ask is S rank the highest rank in ladder? are pros even higher than S? i don't have any knowledge about SC ladder btw
@@nguyen.tien.phat1310 S is the highest tier but pros usually don't tryhard on the ladder, just testing out some ideas etc.
@@FourOneNineOneFourOne that's kinda weird. In other games, pros usually use ladder gamez for practicce and require to br at thr highest rank just to be pro.
Guess SC is a league on its own lmao
@@nguyen.tien.phat1310 no they don't. What games? I also play Valorant and I know even there the ladder is not that strong (out of top 10 players on the ladder maybe only a couple are pro)
@@FourOneNineOneFourOne league for rxample. Players nerd to be challemgers, sometime even top 1 to be scouted and made pro by pro teams. Then they need to play rank constantly to keep their high rank as requirement
Hey RT,
these 1+ hour videos are prob. a bit too much commitment for some viewers. Just cut the video into the seperate games (but please upload them in bulk so I can watch all of them!!). Will probably help increase overal viewership.
I think some people don't watch longer videos hence the lower count.
Xuan. Xuan is playing like a C Protoss😆
All hail the algorithm