Can you beat Kraid with just Power Bombs in Metroid Dread?
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- Опубликовано: 18 дек 2022
- Ever wondered what would happen if you could make it to Kraid with Power Bombs, but not regular bombs? Would you be able to do the special quick kill? Does the game even know how to handle it?
If you just want the answer to the clickbait question, skip to 16:04.
But if you're interested in HOW to even do that, the rest of the video shows the route taken and the various glitches used to pull it off.
Normally, Kraid despawns after either the X is released or ZDR is unfrozen when Experiment Z-57 is killed. To test this requires getting power bombs without visiting Elun or taking the elevator after gravity suit.
The route I took is very similar to the current Any% unrestricted speedrun route, as that route also skips Quiet Robe, Plasma Beam, and Wave Beam and goes straight to Power Bombs after Screw Attack. The main difference is I also skipped Bombs, which makes the routing and certain segments (*cough* screw attack) a bit more challenging.
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I feel sorry for Kraid. He's literally fighting with both arms and head tied up. That's not fair. :(
You mean that's... Norfair ?
@@DarkDrummer77 lol nice
"Can you beat Kraid with just power bombs?"
Proceeds to use missiles as soon as they get to the boss
Yeah they should stipulated they meant second half
Wonder if they even programmed for Kraid to take damage from Power Bombs regularly in the first place
I doubt it, there's a number of things about Kraid that break if you go there with items you're not supposed to have. I was pretty sure when I started exploring this that power bombs wouldn't actually work in his belly, and was actually really surprised the morph ball launcher even worked.
Other things I've noticed are that the little round projectiles that bounce around (they look like pretzel chunks to me for some reason -- Metroid Bread???) are one of the few things in the game that just ignore screw attack damage altogether.
In phase 2 he has two behavior modes I call "bottom" and "top" for whether he does the belly stuff or the cycle with his arms and claws. The trigger for switching the AI script between the two is touching the blue magnet to activate top mode, and touching the floor to activate bottom mode. Using space jump to stay in the air you can get up or down without touching the triggers and he'll be in the wrong mode and not using his attacks.
That's not even counting using the backdoor with gravity suit and just hanging out in the lava. 😎
@@KesslerCascade
Metroid Bread. 😆😆😆
@@KesslerCascade Apparently, Kraid's boss fight is made of IKEA furniture, and all it needs to break is some sequence breaking.
You can kill the baby Metroid and the doors on Ceres with powerbombs. You can enrage Crocomire with them too, he'll rush the wall of you do it
From Randomizer experiences I can tell you, that power bombs don't damage Kraid at all
Very disappointed at the game devs not preparing for this very unlikely situation
I guess the players even with exploits arent supoused to get power bombs without glitches :v
At least kraid got the revenge he's been waiting for for ages
I wasn’t sure if Dread would reach the same levels of brokenness of Super but now I’m changing my mind
Might be intentionally done to keep speed running scene interested.
@@OTPulse Makes sense if it's intentional (or unintentional but not being fixed intentionally) because people like that are really what's keeping Metroid relevant. I played Dread, I liked it, but I honestly kinda forgot all about it until I watched this and I kinda wanna jump back in and try some of these skips and whatnot. That shinespark anywhere glitch looks like it could save a lot of hassle on the 3 or 4 power ups I ended up giving up on collecting lol. I was gonna 100% it, then 50 failed shinespark chains later I decided Ii wasn't gonna 100% it lol
At first I thought this was about the wrestling move. I was looking forward to seeing Samus powerbomb Kraid.
I like how the animations work even when you're wearing suits you're not supposed to be wearing lmao.
The funniest instance of this is when you sink into the escape for RB skip and finish the game without the metroid suit. Samus will be in the Varia suit, then Quiet Robe X will be absorbed so she can transform back into... the Varia suit.
ruclips.net/video/q0h_7u3fSS8/видео.html
Yeah most videogames work like that
@@isabelortiz1230 oh you innocent soul, _They Most Certainly Do _*_NOT._*
Alternate title: Samus gets vored by Kraid for forgetting her most basic weapon. 😆
yes
I had no idea they found a way of skew back into looking directly at the camera without the godmode glitch.
because Samus running directly towards you was funny as hell
Yeah I just find it so funny that you can even do that, and I was kinda expecting there to be no wall so you could just walk out of the map lmao
Love this break down dude, keep it up dawg
This Metroid game rivals Super for best of all time for me. I had so much fun playing it and I’m glad to see it’s not as linear as I initially thought.
I loved the video, insane dedication to kraid is always appreciated
great video, i rarely watch something like this from start to end but i really enjoyed this
Great video, production value made me think I stumbled on a well established channel for a second. Keep it up!
Sucks that Kraid wasn't even coded to deal with Power bombs, but given that they gave him unique stuff for Bomb and Flash Shift already, I'm fine with it. I guess it's possible to skip almost any ability other than Morph Ball and Speed Booster in this game with skew. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Oh, thanks, that means a lot! Just started out and had posted a few random videos, but decided to try making something with some more meat to it. Haven't really published anything for public viewing before so I wasn't sure how it would turn out.
As for what you can skip, it kind of depends what you're trying to do. The game does have fairly robust out-of-bounds detection that will just kill you if you're too far outside where you're supposed to be, so no falling through the walls like in SR. It's broken but not completely.
Some places you can just barely get through, but in a lot of them grapple beam is the key because for whatever reason they coded it to disable the OOB killer while grapple beam is out; so it buys you a little time for stuff like sinks and door clips. It also doesn't check during room transitions even though you can move during them, which helps you get past stuff like door covers.
In general late game items are easier to skip than early ones, just because you have a lot more options. I don't think there's any known route that lets you skip spider magnet, because of a certain spot in Cataris that's a hard requirement.
Some things don't have a way around even with clips -- you need wave beam if you want to fight Raven Beak because there's only a narrow path to the elevator and no viable clips with the tech we have to get past the door cover. But you CAN complete the game without it because it's possible to sink through the floor after power bombs and get down to RBX, triggering the escape (you absolutely need power bombs in the escape if you skip RB, since you don't have hyper beam or the metroid suit).
That said, my two favorite skips are QR skip and plasma skip. Even though the game doesn't recognize it and the ending cutscene still plays out like normal, it's very satisfying for narrative reasons to finish the game without:
(SPOILER ALERT!!!)
1. Quiet Robe getting shot
2. The X being released from Elun
3. Ice or Wave EMMIs being reactivated
Aside from the accomplishment of not falling into Raven Beak's traps, it makes the planet blowing up for no apparent reason super funny.
If you can get an item early without glitches I'm sure they go back and program said item to work against the boss.
There are illustrations that You can unlock during the game that show the backstory of Metroid Dread. In one of them, We see Raven Beak's Mawkin warriors swarming over a defeated Kraid. Presumably this scene took place on Zebes shortly before it self destructed.
Wow I haven’t seen speed running tech since they patched out the Emmi door glitch - super great video!
It's gotten really crazy in the last 3-4 months or so. The discovery of how to reproduce bomuhey skew in early September kind of broke everything wide open and completely redefined routes for every category except NMG and Glitchless. Then other tech built on that like the buffered grapple door clip and it's just been one cool discovery after another.
Right now the focus is on getting setups for fast wall clip angles and door clip angles to be more consistent so that they don't feel so much like RNG.
You ought to be hanging out on the Metroid subreddit. They post new tech snd discoveries there often.
A Fools Mission lol loved it, thanks for showing us the way. UvU
Thank you for this, I actually wondered if it was possible
I love watching stuff like this. Definitely thought this was from a channel with more subs (I'm not one to talk by any means). Subscribed now though.
Crazy to think that this is possible in current patch and doesn't require any 1.0 shenanigans.
To be honest I was kind of glad they patched out invulnerability, because it felt a little TOO good, almost like cheating. The new tech is powerful, but has some limitations you have to work around, and takes a bit of practice to master the skill so it feels lot less cheap to me, but YMMV.
As I had already experienced this in randomizers I was just waiting for the sad ending
Whoa! This is cool! Can't give much but here's a sub for your channel.
Pretty cool, that they actually aknowledged sequence breaks^^
Great video!
Thank you!
you kick ass, keep it up
as someone whose done min items dread mode, seeing you get grapple beam to avoid bomb skip and using a shinespark to avoid a very obnoxious wall clip before the shinespark tutorial room hurts my soul… i had no idea that was even possible
"It's not official and we don't talk about it"
Talk about it. It deserves to be remembered and prompted. Screw Nintendo's copyright bullshit.
Oh, absolutely. That's why I mentioned it even with the tongue in cheek comment.
I kind of doubt I would have even bought Dread when it came out if not for AM2R. I don't think I ever finished super metroid back in the day, maybe got halfway through at most? And I didn't have a GBA so I missed out on the mobile ones. Castlevania: SOTN was my gold standard Metroidvania game.
It was hearing the buzz around AM2R and playing it that got me hooked on the series. After that I played Zero & Fusion, then gave Super another shot and completed it.
Underratted. U just earned a sub
This game came out not too long ago. I know there’s all kinds of stuff that can be done that just haven’t been discovered. Think of super Metroid, metroid fusion, zero mission, there’s TAS runners and speed runners still figuring things out about those games. Personally the coolest thing I can do in super Metroid is Mach ball lol.
I struggled with dread though, I got lost so much for some reason and I’ll admit I’m still at the last boss. Maybe just because I still need to master the mechanics of the game. Cool video though you uncovered something pretty awesome 😎
10:00 Watch out for those old references. It might turn you into dust.
Haven't watched in full yet, but it's worth noting that cross bombs don't work in his belly either. It must be regular bombs. These sort of distinctions come up in rando quite a lot!
Can you charge up the power bomb before rolling into the launcher?
Havent watched, but looking at comments has me say this. No, Kraid is not programmed to take damage from PBs. Even Cross Bombs dont work in its stomach; only normal bombs. The cannon, however, is a cutscene trigger during phase 2. So a very bad idea to use it if you dont have bombs.
Great video! You are not really softlocked if you loose skew after picking up screw attack. You can charge speedboost in the top left of the room and do the bomuhey setup with a shine sink like you would do in the plasma skip route during frozen artaria and then reload from checkpoint. But who would do a complicated backup like this anyway? :)
I also got scared at 12:07 when I saw the bottom drone spawn in, must have been a tense moment.
Oh right, that's a good idea. I even knew you could charge one up there because I experimented a while back with doing an ADC to get down to to the bottom exit to see how it compared to the WBJ for speed.
I tend to forget you can get bomuhey while clipping because the timing is so tight so I rarely even try. Supposedly if you hold free aim while grappling it extends the time window but I haven't managed to pull that off.
The bottom drone didn't really worry me, I've done that clip enough times to know it would be fine -- it's when the middle one starts to spawn in that I cringe. 😉
Tense is fighting Red Chozo warrior while trying not to lose skew just in case I screw up and die (did actually manage to keep it the whole fight while recording). It's possible to set it up again in the drone room, have done it before, but it's kind of a pain because of the long platform. That and I need to learn the spark strat to shorten phase 1.
@@KesslerCascade That's interesting. I find it easier to do the setup while clipping, but I also have not practiced the other setup a lot.
Out of all of this, I like how there's just an X parasite Chozo Warrior right in the power bomb room when no X are supposed to be free, otherwise they'd overrun the planet.
Escue is there in Ferenia also, Core-X and all when you kill it. Same with Z-57 if you freeze ZDR without releasing the X. And of course the Raven Beak X cutscene plays out as normal even if you skip plasma beam. I'm a little sad that quiet robe still gets X-ified even if you never talk to him.
I think only reason Golzuna can't be fought is its unique spawning method where a seemingly normal enemy's X reforms into it, but when you kill that enemy without the X being released it just dies instead.
Interesting video
Maybe in a sequel they can toss the idea in or have the way that you internally slay Kraid that would be rad
kesslerCasscade: **is talking**
kraid: **moaning**
How do you get the running on the spot glitch
how do you speed boost in one places without taking a long distance??
Physics: exists
Metroid sequence breakers: They’re more like guidelines
Methods of get bombs early
First one by killing the robot in your way slide until you see Samus and only her hand by the ledge with correct timing you can get to ledge just barely. Note this is the Dread mode method you can use it in any mode if you want
The second method is damage boost while there preform a wall jump then damage boost on the robot then immediately go right to wall jump again
for 8 subs way too underrated
Yeah this is professional and well spoken
Oh, thank you both! I was worried because I had a cold while recording it, but wanted to get the project done with so pushed through it anyway, hah.
how do you have only 455 subs your edits are NUTS
I was about to ask the same question
Well at least I didn't get blown to smithereens by a power bomb.
worth the run
Hm, can you fight the final boss without releasing the X then? Seems like you could. Would the X randomly appear in the escape sequence then? Or maybe the game would just crash?
Seems like the answer is "yes" and they actually do this in the current Any% route
Yes and sort of.
If you don't release them, there are no X in the escape sequence - except for Raven Beak X of course, but that's a hardcoded cutscene. The various creatures still appear in the escape, but they're the non-X versions and just disintegrate when you touch them.
The current any% route doesn't fight the end boss at all but skips down to RBX and escapes without the metroid suit, by clipping through the hyper door. Before RB skip was found, it went through the normal endgame. Both routes skip plasma & Elun entirely, so they never get released. Quiet Robe is still infected as well, whether or not you released the X.
There IS a meme subcategory called "Pacifist Escape" where you try to make it through the escape sequence without killing anything. That category is actually strongly affected by whether or not you release the X, to the point where it may not be possible to complete if you didn't. The reason is that some of the enemies in the escape take a few seconds to spawn in when they're doing the special "X flying in and taking shape" animation, but if there's no X, they're just immediately there when you come into the room and you can't bypass them by being fast enough.
The ending was just sad you came so far and then died😢 never thought I’d see Samus go Metroid on a chozo in her varia suit
Sometimes it's the journey that's the important part, just to prove we can.
But don't worry, it is actually possible to complete the game from this point! I've successfully beaten Raven Beak and escaped without ever collecting morph ball bombs.
Ok - but can you do this glitchless *with* bombs (I'm assuming so cuz IFJ is intended)
If I had known about that sequence break in dread I might not have burned out on my dread run at the final boss.
Edit: I'm talking about the normal instakill on kraid's second stage
I was wondering what that bomb launcher was for.
What controller do you use ?
I use the 8bitdo Bluetooth Ultimate controller.
www.8bitdo.com/ultimate-bluetooth-controller/
I found this out while doing a rando run. I haven't tried... But I wonder if you can charge a power bomb prior to the morphball launcher, and if that would work. I doubt it, though.
I'm certain that due to how far in the game you get power bombs, they never expected people to break the game in these unintended ways to sequence break. Some sequence breaks are obviously planned for as surprises, like early bombs and early supers. I don't think they planned for camera shenanigans and clipping through floors.
Its possible beat metroid dread in reverse boss order?
Ah yes the classic strategy of getting the most powerful items in the game before an early game boss
"If you've played Dread, and if you haven't, go play it because there's BIG spoilers ahead!"
You forgot to add something. "Go play it, because there's BIG spoilers ahead and it's an excellent game."
However it was so interesting how much glitches are
Vcr ff! That's cool
I know some people are like “how disappointing that power bombs don’t work on Kraid” meanwhile I’m over here like, “The developers thought to make sure no X-infected enemies appear until you release the X?!? Even in rooms that surely they thought were impossible to get into?!?”
Came for Metroid, stayed for the Zombocom reference
I am breaking my head trying to remember from what metroid game the intro song is
It's "Brinstar Depths", the song played in Kraid's Lair in both the original NES game and the Zero Mission remake. The one I used is the Zero Mission version.
@@KesslerCascade Yes zero mission thank you
минутку а как ты крутишься и бегаешь на месте ? какие конбинации ?
Can you beat Pokémon sun and moon without complaining about its length?
Not sure tbh, I got distracted by something else around Poni island and never got back to it.
Yes
i wonder how the other worlds look when frozen?? im sure the devs only programed the one area to freeze over. as i was super curious how the lava rooms look after the world freezes over. im sure the results are boring tho..
Keep an eye on my channel then (big hint about the video I'm currently working on 😉)
No, it has to be Kraid, he's just got some real HATE in his eyes when samus drops in
Can you shine spark Kraid
Early grapple beam I use the easier method just rapidly press the jump it’s much easier then the single button press method
This video is awesome.
Thanks so much!
Never realized other people liked Metroid dread!
"-the longest and dumbest way to die in Dread"
actually, that's skipping Kraid entirely and coming back when you have all E-Tanks
That’s the sequence break. Only a coward to would pull a move like that.
Why did you skip regular bombs? Couldn’t you just dude power bombs on Kraid either way?
I'm pretty sure that the special sequence for being inside Kraid just ignores all inputs other than the Y button. So if you had regular bombs and tried to use R+Y for power bombs or cross bombs, I think it would just ignore the other buttons and release a normal bomb. That might make it look like it worked when it really didn't.
I also find it interesting that while that bit is seemingly hardcoded, it does check if you HAVE normal bombs. Which is kind of weird since you're stuck if you don't but I thought it was worth showing.
@@KesslerCascade I'd say it's less hardcoded to check if you have bombs, and more that all these scenes are interactive scenes which you are expected to interact (and can't interact if you don't have the requisite item, naturally)
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_> not playing on hard mode_
*Filtered*
Have you tried using Cross Bombs?
not possible, but would be same story
This. In vanilla, you can't get cross bombs until after the X is released because Golzuna won't spawn otherwise. But releasing the X despawns Kraid.
Might be possible to try with mods like randomizer, but I don't think the R button functions at all in there.
Can confirm - this comes up in the randomizer, and he is not vulnerable to cross bombs.
They should of programmed something in, just assuming that players would find some way to break the game. It's not like it's a rare occurrence.
In the original Metroid, the easiest way to beat him is to use 32 bombs.
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Happy New Year! xD
Nice vore% run!
なるほど。継続ダメージで チャージが出来ないから、使えないのか！
The answer is no you can't beat kraid with power bombs,there I saved you 17 min of watching a video wondering if you could.
lol, fair
I've tried to fight galzuna before releasing the X and hes just a small crab bitch that after being killed, just gives u standard health or missiles and soft locks u into the room.
all of that just to fail
You can get bombs early I just killed it with a regular bomb
Big and ugly? He just has big bones and a big personality
I rather kill that boss without blowing my brain in the process thanks
All of that just to be impossible
Not death in the Kraidussy. (Long video for that)
What a surprised and dreadful game!
Haha LOL
Short answer No.
I'm disappointed. I want my money back.
Öhm die Bugs mit den durch wände etc. funktionieren nicht wirklich, habt ihr ne gehäckte Console^^^
Kraid in Dread is clone
Of all things, why clone Kraid lol
@@xxProjectJxx because Raven Beak does know how to clone things
Leave Craig alone 😦
Spoiler to save 18 minutes of your life: NO.
Ugh what a let down