Diablo 4: 2019 Gameplay Demo Live from Blizzcon
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Hey everyone, I'll be creating another video later with more of my thoughts and feedback for a lot of stuff in detail. This was my first time playing through and my reactions are purely as they come!
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Don't worry Llama you can still have a family friendly stream for D4, all my little kids will be in their 20s when it's finally released
Still waiting…
Llama didnt even cuss lol he said "ffpoggg" it did sound very close though.
@@78kasper78 he said 'f***" right before he talk about "loving the engine" :p
@@bigcityman7263 Wait is over SoonTM ;)
Now that D2R is coming out, I realize I don't really care about D4 after all.
After playing d2r I am kinda disappointed with this demo. I just now realized how much I hate d3 over the years. Seeing 3 digits stats and crit damage breaks my heart
I like how he recommends stuff for improvement but we all know he's just describing D2 lol
I mean, that's kinda what we want. Diablo II, but new and improved
That's what I would want lol
And I don't disagree with him lol
Yes just copy D2 user interface they are making it too difficult, you will never replicate a classic, so just stick to the classic game user interface
@@mityakiselev I have some news for you buddy
-family stream
-knocks a hellboar off a cliff with a boulder: "fuuuuuuuuck"
best part!! hahah
Didnt he say pooooooog?
I really dont want huge damage numbers..... i prefer the d2 scaling
watching this just makes me want to replay diablo 2... lol
And that's not because of the hype...
I'm still playing d2.... Best game ever !
@@guillaumebrasseur1648 Me too
Me too, would really love diablo 2 with better engine, graphics and content
I started replaying it after they announced D4 would be more to the tone of D2. There's a lot I do like about D2, but I am quite often frustrated by limitations of the engine. Getting caught on corners, lights, etc. Lightning bolts being "blocked" by pillars which aren't directly in the path. Merc's being stupid and always walking through poison clouds, getting stuck, lost.
That said, I played it from release up until D3's release, and it is a good game. I do miss that tone, that "feel". I miss hearing dialog that's not made in a cheese factory. I miss the skill system, leveling up a skill rather than progression being soley about gear and paragon.
I'm not satisfied..... the game is still early in development but from what I see this is yet again another fail, looks like a world of warcraft// diablo 3 hybrid with a diablo 2 look, what the hell is with those runes lol I'm not feeling it I'll just wait for a d2 remaster if it ever comes out...
why dont you just go marry d2? getting sick of people complaining all the freaking time. D2 talent tree is a stolen idea also. Just accept the fact that you are sentimentally bonded with d 2 and it is just nostalgia making you squirt with d 2.... I mean people were complaining about wow, until wow vanilla realeased.... i play the game and everyone is complaining of how they are forced to walk for ages, and how they miss their heirlooms. Jeej game is not even in Alpha stage and all the bitching started already
@@γανγστεργανγστεριδης that sounds like a great idea too bad I can only marry a digital copy :(
@@leighwhite9656 then if you miss the og experience go get subscribed on a shitty internet provider, or reduce your MB limit so you can lag more.... Or buy some chinese gamers to hack the game, and make your life pitiful stealing all your loot. Or just play path of exile and uninstall it in 2 days because you need special mechanical eyes to see the talent tree, and a master's in nanophysics and quantum to comprehend it. Diablo 4 seems like a masterpiece, and it will be a masterpiece...100000 times better than diablo fucking 2,1 and 3..
Blizzard gives 20 min demo
MrLlama: We will speedrun it XD
Everything after Diablo II makes me cry. I still think no game can capture the original creepyness of Diablo I and the cool enviroments of Diablo II.
Poe is pretty good at that though
if you think that, yopu should look at POE and POE2, ofcourse its not a carbon copy of D2 but its the closest to D2, except ofcourse their twist with the Skills and massive Stat tree. cuz they cant go on all out copy D2, they might get copyright strike, but their addition freaking works AF. based on Looks animation and UI. its how Diablo 3 shouldve looked like. kudos to GGG for saving Diablo 2
@@JG-gn9oq poe2 is aesthetically pleasing, but the every item being able to be 6 link thing is stupid as fuck
@@bradd4983 PoE, which is SEVEN years old , habe horrible mechanics and hitbox. amd playing melee in Console is just a glitch fest.. At least D3 is playable in all platforms with not praying your character will hit the target
@@BarugoSama Oh, you're a consoletard? Case dismissed your opinion means nothing.
This reminds me more of D3 than D2. There will never be another D2. This requires the original devs of D2 who knew how to create a true action rpg game.
@Username In case you're unaware, there's a reason why Diablo 2 differs from Diablo 3 in many aspects, lore, and gameplay just to name a couple. It is because the core team (Blizz North) behind the original Diablo series (1 & 2) left partway through the design & development of Diablo 3 in 2005, and a team (Blizz South) with an entire different mindset took over and started development from complete scratch, resulting in the Diablo 3 you see today. The lore is completely unexpected, the game lacks the look and feel of what honestly all of us had expected when Diablo 3 was first announced. The loot system is garbage, Auction House, and "Loot 2.0" to name a couple. Where is the awesome random level generator we're so familiar with in D2? Oh wait, non existent. I've played both versions of the game, and there's a reason I keep crawling back to the Diablo 2 series. It's just that D3 holds your hand in so many ways it's honestly insulting to a veteran Diablo player. I can keep rambling but thought I'd stop there. Hope that was enough substance for ya..
Those devs made Torchlight and Torchlight 2...Why don't you go play those?
@@yGKeKe I've tried them, but nothing replaces that dark / hellish feeling Diablo 2 provides.
Hire Llama and make Diablo great again !!!
Hiring veteran diablo players who are still active would be really good so Blizz doesn't lose their focus and vision. What's left of it anyway.
Imo, at its current state, the art looks too dull. They were right about D2 having colour when they talked about the D3 art direction, except D3 just took it in the wrong direction. Lighting is too balanced in D3. Now, D4 seems to be going in the opposite direction. I think they need to up the contrast, make the shadows sharper and lighting a little harsher, and bring out some colours. I think Dark Souls and DS3 have more D2 feel to them in terms of colour and lighting. This looks like higher res D3 with different colour palette to me. And I know it never will happen anymore because the game will come out on consoles too, but I miss the camera being a little further away!
Everything after D2 just feels...too airy, too light, too cartoony...
HELP! I am stuck in the past and can't get out!
D2 was cartoony, but d4 realism is just boring.
@@Qarnifex nah
D2R still feels dark. D3 feels too colorful
Still love the painted feel of the first game tho, stuck in the past and all!
It's way too much like diablo 3... needs to be more like diablo 2
FACTS. It's like D3, which is like playing Gauntlet arcade
yeah. it should be higher stakes. easier to die plus consequences for death.
it seem like Diablo 3.5
TBH i played d3 like over 200 hours in total. I played d2... 12-16 hours? before i got bored.
Those are straight facts for yours ass. D3 was way more succesful than d2
@@memento5113 D2 is over 20 years old and still has more active players than D3, especially now that D2R is released. Come talk to me in 10 years and we'll see if anyone still plays D3
The more I think about it, the more certain I am that I genuinely just want D2, with the engine/physics shown here, new items/classes/story and all that stuff... but keep the progression how it is, keep the skill trees (new skills of course), keep itemization the same (runewords, god tier uniques, randomly op rares, etc), keep difficulty scaling the same. I genuinely don't think they can outdo the character building and itemization of D2, D2 just does it the best by a landslide IMO. They could genuinely just stick to the D2 recipe (with _small_ tweaks/improvements), release it with a fresh engine and new classes/items/bosses, and repeat every few years.. and I'd buy it every time.
i just wish they remade d2 in this engine xd
Also, I absolutely LOVE how in-depth you went and analysed everything you saw out there, can't wait for your another vid on the topic
@Harry Baals shhhh, don't spoil the moment :p
Its funny i was just thinking this... I want an open bnet hax mode with fully math based customization and 1337 hax
Shut your fucking mouth
@@seta-san2149 no you.
wish has been granted
Druid forms should be slightly more permanent, it's kinda missing the point when you shape shift for just one swing.
Yeah there is seamless integration with it but I do miss being able to walk around as a bear a bit. Though it's very early and maybe they will have this
Well in the demo you got 2 bear 1 wolf 1 earth 1 storm skills which means you switching between forms a lot. If you want to stay a bear/wolf in release you just take the shapeshift skills options and just rush in to fight all the time. Oh and maybe there be an item or something that makes them last a bit longer.
Yeah they've already confirmed that if you wanna stay shapeshifted you just have to use the associated skills.
If you watch the Rhykker interview the dev (David Kim) says the idea for rapid shapeshifting attacks is to stack bonuses & comboes kinda, I guess you're slightly right about that but curious to see what comes out of that
Just attack animations...
Blizzard is so clueless. sad to say but as a blizz vet i have zero faith in the company. Thanks for the D2 remaster. We deserved it btw
Yeah, cuz they are literally no longer the company that created Diablo 1-2, and Warcraft. It's only a shell of its former self. I will not be buying any more of their products. That said, i do hope they release some good games, but in the case of D4, seems like they have no idea why 1 and 2 were so good.
@@Brian-uq6jm I ignore the Nostalgia asshats and prefer to make my own decisions on any game based on its own merits. not based on a game that is decades old by now.
"OLDER IS BETTER!" is bullshit.
Seens like a D3 expansion ....
@@Brynngar1983 Yeah and diablo 3 is a garbage game.
"what does charms add to the game"
that was eyebrow raising moment.
Do you have a timestamp?
They add charm 😆
i had to pause and coment this:
"i don't want to do 10 billion damage! we can't have PVP with 10 billion damage"
THIS! THIS! THIS!
This is what is in the mind of every SANE diablo fan. Drop those ridiculous D3 numbers and make diablo a decent balanced game! PLEASE BLIZZARD DON'T FUCK THIS UP AGAIN.
i feel you bro
ik, i just played D3 when was nee for 45 min and never played again.
D2 LoD was the game!!
i read about D2 remastered released this year.. how real is that?
@@emilianons1962 be careful. Look what blizzard did with warcraft 3 reforged, i wouldnt be too quick in jumping in the hype train
They are going to fuck this up so hard. Which is the reason I'm not hyped in the least and instead playing Path of Diablo.
visually, a step in the right direction
Yes, but I'm thoroughly worried about EVERYTHING else
Holy shit people complain about everything
Bring back D2 skill trees! Stop with this goofy make everything easier nonsense.
china money
all they want is money-make a game easy-more customers-more money
totally agree - if you basically remade d2 with new story/game graphics and a few updates and new things i think you would have gold. also is it just me or was d3's graphics too nice, world of warcraftish. this is diablo. it is supposed to be dark and evil not cartoonish and bright
@@philiprea8540 D3s graphics were kind of childish if you compare to (even though old school) D2s graphics. idk how to describe it. and while I can play D3 with my girlfriend on ps4... I would 10/10 rather have Diablo 2. the dark feel, the incredible skill and stat customization is something that I feel we MIGHT be able to get back from the upcoming D4 (fingers crossed)
@@Robert-po9gw you prefer D3? or POE?
why legendaries? call them unique items, and you know whats insane about d2, is that a blue item can be super gg but in d3 they were only good for mats wich is so boring, make me investigate my loot and not just press a quick button at the forge to delete them without caring. also the inventory, brg back the tetris kinda inventory like in diablo 2 make me manage my space. GIVE ME RESPONSABILITIES GAME! give me choices that matters. don't just reskin d3 and say its got d2 elements because its dark and gritty.
im 99% your opinion...but what do you mean with the lacking tetris inventory? it is in d3 aswell or am i misunderstaning a point there?
@@Sepilein1 it's the fact that items have different size and you need to manage them in your inventory to maximize your space.
@@bergieoldschool oh tbh..i thought the items by type where actually sized different in d3 aswell...nvmd then i got what you say and now its 100% aggrement xD
@@bergieoldschool I'm all for the classic D2 style character inventory and item tetris, but my wish list is for a bigger stash- shared across one account - and being able to rotate items in the inventory would be dope.
The new-wave Diablo games took player responsibility & consequences for choices and chucked that shit out the window lol
I’m feeling very d3ish.
looks too much like d3, crazy how playing resurrected makes you realize how much better d2 is than virtually anything else out there, with the exception of PoE if that's your thing.
PoE graphics is crap in comparison to D2R. Maybe PoE2.
POE gameplay is shite.
@@pitecusH I agree but for some reason people seem to love it
@@pitecusH PoE used to be the only modern D2 alternative around when it first launched, now it's turning into a modern D3 alternative
Yeah D2 is the best game they’ve made in the series so far. End of story
Gameplay looks damn good, but im still a bit scared cause it looks a bit like d3, idk will see
The entire game depends on the loot engine. The reason D2 is so good is the treasure class system. This is the key to replayability. You have to be able to farm specific areas for a chance at getting a rare item. Period. And it has to be rare as hell. Llama also mentions charms, which are key to customization. The point is, we want a grindy ARPG with loot rewards that are difficult to obtain, and skill choices that matter. It has to be a long term game....the type of game you grind for months to find the perfect items.
YES. but listening to the devs, i fear they don't agree -.-
the reason why d2 is so good is because ITS A GOOD GAME simple as that .. The music the gameplay the story the ambiance EVERYTHING is top tier diablo 4 looks boring and plain.
I understand but most players won't relate to this and Blizzard caters to the masses
This game is gonna be an always online, live action, open world MMO with RPG elements. I really doubt you'll get what you want man.
if that doesn't happen, and i'm VERY SKEPTIC, the atk on items bufffing skills and you eventually max all skills and open all of them is a BIG nono for me, but at least the buff skill itemization is not like d3 which is BAD.
I want them to bring back item classes. In D2 there where chainmail, scalemail and platemail for example. The grandfather being in the excecutioner sword class gives it more mythos to it somehow. It also adds to the joy of getting an item drop and u see the class and then u have to identify it and hope that its the one you where looking for
agreed, also now all the itemstats are so simplified it's kinda boring
It looks too "Diablo 3" for my liking. I swear I'll still be playing Diablo 2 resurrected 10 years from now if Blizzard is still around.
Agreed, sir.
Because it's a reskin of d3. People would have to be blind to not see it. Bethesda resells Skyrim, Blizzard resells Warcraft and Diablo 2/3.
Inventory looks dull, I love to see big item thumbnail, unique item arts like in D2 are charming for me
Hopefully the skills and talents change. Getting every skill is lame and the talent tree looks way too simple. Also binding items are a slap in the face...
zachattack745 I was hoping they brought back the old system
on the contrary i think D3's skill system was awesome, it was designed for multiple playstyle on 1 class without having to restart every single damn time to try and how a particular skill tree plays out. it was brilliant.
undrugged-cyborg they fixed that with a plugy mod but that doesn’t mean blizzard can’t learn from mods and other games like POE, that being said I hope it’s not as convoluted as POE. I just really like the d2 skills system as simple as it is there are a lot of intricacies in it like synergies and +res. Stuff like that.
@@tellah8037 totally agreed mate, POE never really appealed to me because it's trying so hard to stay with D2's DNA. it's dated and limited if my being honest due to the technology at the time but it's not an excuse to put quality of life improvements into the game and at least streamline it.
@@mychem20 noooope you missing the point, Diablo 2 was first and foremost an RPG, and then live action combat, where D4 is An always online, Live action, Open world MMO with RPG elements. it will continue to be so, regardless of any feedback what so ever. and you can not prove me wrong, But nor do you need to. they lied to us about D3 and they are going to lie to us some more. PLEASE prove me wrong I beg you Blizzard.
I really hope that they address difficulties in the game. Freely changeable difficulties undermines immersion and roleplaying. I remember the first time I faced off against Mephisto in D2 even in normal. Guy was menacing!
Simon Tyroll yeah!!
@VincentHanna121 No one was prepared for Duriel on their first playthrough.
Duriel was disgusting and I kept spamming firewall XD
I'm finishing D2 for the first time ever right now with a (flawed) frenzy barb and can confirm this. I really don't remember when was the last time i dreaded going against a boss - let alone wandering into a zone (Hell level had one heck of a atmosphere - specially the Temple of Chaos and the River of Lava).
I thought Duriel was harder than Mephisto (menacing, yeah, but didn't thought he was hard to beat), now Diablo and Baal... Boy, i got my ass handed to me SEVERAL times.
You couldn't change difficulties on hardcore mode in D3 idk why that would change
Yeah, I’m just ready for D2 HD
That's called medianXL, it's a plug that uses all the maps and items but they revamped the storyline, added more skills and more things to do
@@fignewton0000 Also broken balance :) I loved Median XL 2012, but newest isnt as good as old one.
@@fignewton0000 i just want reskin, and don't touch anything else. i don't need new content. the original content is still new to me.
@@fignewton0000 this doesn't help the people who enjoy the original game + pvp
@@GP-qb9hi actually the classic (not wow but classic blizz game) team already said after wc3 they'll work on d2 so it will come
Two big things I want for d4: singleplayer- offline, CHALLENGE.
most likely they will have an approach to online similar to dark souls, thats sorta the point of the big open world..
but a solo experience should be good and challenging that I agree with
Lol lama should absolutely be on the d4 dev team. They should have a whole “what d2 did right” group within it
who says they dont?
@@Qarnifex anyone that knows Activision.
One of the best comments on RUclips. Still cant understand why they arent building new Diablo games on the foundation from Diablo and Diablo II. Diablo II has passed the test of time - I wonder why? And I wonder why people making Diablo games today doesnt recognize that fact.
@@joacimohrnell3346 here's the thing d2 was perfect and lightning in a bottle, if they just took d2 and went with new classes and areas and story and all that jazz d4 still wouldn't live up to d2. They have no try to build upon it and change things up for example take the force awakens it was beat by beat a new hope with a new skin (I don't hate the movie but it just wasn't as good as it couldve been) a beat by beat new diablo game just like d2 would just fall flat
@@duogemstone yeah, Diablo II just has it. I dont think there are that many people who wants Diablo IV to be just like Diablo II but with added content. Im just baffled by the fact that the different Diablo teams arent more inspired by the two games that are the foundation for the whole Diablo franchise. There are so many things that feels out of place in Diablo III and now in Diablo IV. To me that clearly shows that they are taking things in a direction which is 'not true to the Diablo franchise as a whole'. We need simplicity but still depth. We need darkness but still soul. We need to feel a sense of progression without just having more cool effects from skills on the screen. We need to have limitations that feels somewhat realistic for a 'person' in Sanctuary, limitations that can be surpassed by changing gear, by investing skillpoints, by having optional quests with certain rewards. Something similar to Diablo II's FHR, FCR, FBR, IAS, attack rating, defense. All in all, we need to have options and we need to make somewhat meaningful choices.
I'm probably one of the biggest fans of diablo 2 and i must say.. wtf is that boss at the end.. This game is looking like d3 and the boss has zero charisma i dont even wanna beat it. And also where is the legendary music from d1 and d2, it does not have to be exactly the same but do they understand that the music is a big part of the game? Do they smoke pencils at blizzard or what man. It's like they think 80% of their custommers are complete idiots and wont notice this is a d3 revamp fuck me man.
Those giant bosses are lame af. Give us something like mephisto or baal.. you had to move and dodge their spells (specially on higher difficulties, meph was really hard without gg gear).. but this stupid giant bird dragon from the demo you never know whats happening. How hard is to make a sequel to a good game??
That boss seems something took from a korean mmo
At least this time around I'm no fool. I will NOT buy this game. Blizzard has proven themselves irresponsible with my money, so no more.
They are out of touch with theyre ARPG fans. THey somehow want to make DIablo a BEat em up game.
It's great to see Jimmy Fallon and Ninja having fun gaming together.
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AGAIN with the Battlenet name tags instead of character names. Where's the frickin IMMERSION Blizzard??! FFS. At least give us the OPTION!
I think they just named the characters for the streamers randomly, like xXxDeckard_Cain69xXx
its a console requirement it work this way anyway. I prefer it this way. That way I dont have to see the stupid name you named your character.
I'm hoping there will be a private mode like in D3. I'm not a fan of the MMO thing.
open world boss fights occasionally.. isn't mmo
Once I found out about BNet, single player died.
100% There NEEDS to be single player & their NEEDS to be customizable multiplayer.
Basically Copy+Paste Battlenet & Open Battlenet from D2 LOD
*Single* player died for *you* -- A *single* , individual person. Abd that's probably true for tens if not hundreds of thousands.
But it literally takes zero effort to put in a single player mod for those who want to do completionist solo content (like looting every unique & set item in the game, which is only doable with a few *Single Player* mods to increase bank tabs & track item drops)
@@Preacher_. like offline maybe??
This game is more like 60% Diablo 3, 10% Diablo 2 and 30% Destiny.
So much for listening to fans and going back to the roots lol. I'm pretty sure fans hated D3 for it's always online feature, so not only you didn't listen, but you actually focus on online and completely abandon Offline. I'm sticking to Diablo 2.
Not liking d3 as well. Replayability for me wasnt the same as diablo 2.
Exactly. I finished D2 like 500 times and still in mood to play it. Finished D3 twice only and i wont play it anymore...
Replayability was the downfall of d3. It just felt the same when switching builds. Then getting forced into whatever is the best build because the others don't compete. Kinda light having to pick between a super heavy weight Mike Tyson and a woman in the flyweight division.
@j. d. You are right and wrong. There is some of the mmo mentality but it is enough to just play for a little at a time hunting for waypoints or just doing mfing. The main difference is diablo 2 had meaningful choices. You could pick a build that was easier in the early game but harder in the late game. If you try hard enough you can skill kill the bosses.
Diablo 3 differs because the choices are all made for you with the current meta and normalized weapons. Rifts felt more grindy to me than spamming baal runs for some reason. It probably has something to do with enchants on mobs mattering more than the mob types.
All of these are still not quite mmo because to me the mmo is exemplified by the end game pve content that requires large parties to kill. The hard content that requires everyone to be on point. No matter how high you get in diablo 2 you can still die unexpectedly. Diablo 3 is a hell of a lot more grindy in it's fights that progressively take longer and longer to kill the same mobs. Rifts literally reward you by taking longer to kill the same mobs.
The loot system in diablo 2 is much better... even if it could be improved. It allows for you to have a flavor. You can pick weapon types and speeds. the itemization in d3 all it really matters is if you are 1h or 2h or dual wield. Their fix to the auction house did waayy more harm than it did good. If they were not losing money on the auction house I wish they didn't remove it. Then all they had to do to keep the auction house relevant and not stagnated is give items more durability but have that durability max reduce over time with usage. That would have fixed the main flaw of diablo 3. The lack of community... or even the need for a community. In it's current state it is a single player game you have to play online.
I feel the exact opposite. D2 felt slow and clunky in its mechanics. Having to walk most of the time and play inventory tetris was lame. After playing through the campaign a couple of times, I couldn't even bring myself to get all the different classes through normal before becoming disinterested. However, when D3 came out I played only that for many hours each day for 2 weeks straight and eventually played through the campaign several times with each class before RoS came out and then hundreds of hours on each character in Adventure mode and Rifts thereafter. Playing through the same story and zones in the same, slow way over and over is boring, even with more randomized areas. Being forced to do so to even try different builds (that you could easily screw up permanently) is even worse. D3 destroys D2 for replayability even with it's flawed endgame and itemization and despite the freely changable skills. I'd rather grind for and save up different items to try and maximize different skill builds in higher and higher difficulties than grind a new character every time I want to switch things up. That sounds awful to me. Then again, I also never really played alts in WoW back in the day and prefer to keep progressing with my original characters without having to start over and reset multiple times. Leveling isn't compelling replayability to me unless the leveling process itself is very compelling, but in most games the late game is far more so and I'd rather spend my time there. And the item grind is only fun if the core gameplay remains fun, and it doesn't if it's too much endless grinding of the same stuff. Which is also why I don't play D3 anymore either. I sincerely hope they fix this with these Dungeon Keys and whatever else they're doing for the D4 endgame.
@@ScorchHellfire d2 has had restat/reskill tokens for years now.. Lol
They could replicate the Diablo 2 character progression in terms of leveling up. Give each class a proper skill trees they can spec through. Skills can still be leveled up to 20, and since you can have 6 active abilities instead of 2 they give you an extra skill point every level to compensate. MAKE US CREATE A UNIQUE BUILD! Make us think! In Diablo 2 you could brick an entire character if you thoughtlessly put skill points into everything!
How is the ability to brick a character a good thing? It's a bad thing right?
Sure, where you put the skill points matters but at the end of the day you will either google what are the good builds for your character and go for those or you will make some unique build which probably sucks in Hell at latest and then you need to reset to one of the recommended builds anyway. There is not much real freedom in D2 in terms of viable builds.
@@KirosanaPerkele yeah but there was a real excitement to respecs and first time leveling characters. Ofc the anxiety of not wanting to make a mistake is unnecessary but it also makes it fun.
Been playing D2 for almost 20 years and D3 for some months, things I would change of this D4 gameplay:
- Option to fade the map in the center of the screen or in a side, that minimap is little help.
- Bigger inventory items, wanna see items closer.
- Skill trees. We need to choose from more skills choosing 6 out of 15 isnt enough. More skill trees means deeper char customization. That means you CREATE your own char. Choosing 20 skills among 60 is great. Also forcing to choose wich skills you wont use is great. Having all skills would be lame.
- Complex runewords mechanic. Having to choose just a pair of runes to add an effect is waaaaaay not enough. Every D2 player will tell you runes and runewords are 50% of the game meaning and goal. We played to get that rare runes drop and making a 4 5 6 runewords after looking them for 2 weeks WAS the game by itself. ¿Why would anyone get rid of this unique D2 succes feature?
- Spell cooldowns... As a player of PoE Im used to cooldowns too but Im not a big fan. Better mechanic ever is cast/hit speed based on fcr and ias ¡Bring back fcr and ias! With cooldowns action will be just as any other arpg out there 😕.
-Conclusion: We want all things that were a big succes in D1(dark atmosphere) D2(fcr ias and runes) D3(big and epic bosses) + next gen graphics and light effects. Diablo doesnt really need to add a lot of new features to de great again. Just use what worked well in the past and add better graphics.
Almost forgotten. AVOID toxic mechanics like free teleport for all (Enigma RW). There shouldnt be any item or runeword needed by 90% of characters, thats toxic and boring. Make every char style have different needs and ways to fill them needs
This does not look good... The cgi trailer and probably video scenes will be amazing but honestly the gameplay kinda sucks, blizz doesnt learn right? Back to d2 or d2 remaster
I miss huge open areas, like D3 it seems very snaky whereas D2 has big open land areas
43:35 the faces of disappointment from runes lol
2 things that should be removed from the game imo:
The red outline when the cursor is on an enemy.
Damage numbers.
*ᴥ* you can always just make the dmg number a toggle. Some people wanna see the numbers. Agree with the red outline tho
These outlines is something that pester many modern games and totaly breaks immersion. They should always have an option to turn it off, like DOOM has for glory kills.
@@rektyrektingson4668 The issue with stuff like that is that the red highlight makes the game easier, meaning you'll perform better and if you game seriously at all then you're forced to use the option because you want to optimize. If nobody has the option, then you get a better experience without playing handicapped, since everyone is handicapped.
i would add option to turn it on and off
Both of those should be an option, not totally remove. Some player wants to play immersively but some still want to focus on the fight precision.
Just release Diablo 2 Remastered already.
Missing that iconic matt uelman gothic guitar folk music. I hope for bigger skill trees and more permanent specialization choices for the replay value. I hope itemization to have more depth than attack/defence values. The darkness direction is good but they should add a little bit of light to contrast it. Thats what d1 tristram atmosphere got so right i think. The “safe” town lights and music against the surrounding darkness. I hope blue and yellows dont become totally useless at some point. We should always care about loot dropping. I hope the items icons will looks better (more highres) and have the tetris varied stash space slots. This is a game all about drooling over sick loot. So please make it really shiny and cool looking. I hope they can get the environments and npcs and monsters have lots of personality and charm like in d1-d2. These environments are a bit “busy” for the most part. they could open them up and space things out more. Some plains. I also would like some simple environment puzzle stuff of d2. Hidden secrets. The mainquesting should feel really rewarding. Like a lvl up or a unique item for reward like d2 did. They should feel personal and like ur really making a difference to the npcs of sanctuary (getting the hammer for charsi or saving deckard cain from the cage).. hate the blue ghost ingame sequences of d3. If anything they pull me out of the immersion by showing things that happened to other people, some other time. Do something to our character or friendly npcs in the moment instead. Have our character be a bigger part of the story... I didnt like the dialogs with boss antagonists of d3. These are monsters and demons were fighting. They should treat us like food for the most part. I also didnt like being a demigod nephalem special chosen one. Rather just a random adventurer pitted against the forces of hell.. that become legendary through our actions. I hope the Stash has its own space per character u make with maybe one shared tab for sharing between different chars. Anyway, thats my ten cents.
Was excited when i saw the original game play trailer but i really think this feels like D3. Don't get me wrong it looks great. I love the physics in the game. Skeleton bones rolling down a hill, boulders knocking enemies off ledges. I love the shamans resurrecting those fallen. It looked really good and felt Diablo 2 like. I didn't like how items scale. He got an SOJ that had slightly better stats than the first one he got. It makes a Unique drop feel less unique if you can have a better roll on it. It also makes it more gear focused then diablo 2's build focus. I didnt like how in Diablo 3 I couldnt play my character how i wanted to because my gear made a certain build more optimal. I really hope thats something that doesnt stick through to Diablo 4.
All items in Diablo 2 can have stat ranges for their mods. The issue is making uniques roll random affixes. Varied range is good like "Adds 10 to 20 vitality", but random mod types like "Adds vitality OR strength" is not good.
@@coachmcguirk8277 I know that but like you said its a set range for D2 Unique. Correct me if I'm wrong but in Diablo 3, for example, can't I get a Goldwrap at level 8, thats stats are rolled with that in mind? Can't i also get that same Goldwrap at level 70 with completely different stats? In Diablo 2 you you get a legendary it doesn't change except for the set range of certain lines. I guess my main rant is that I want a unique to feel like a unique.
its 2021 it will suck in the long run
Its a D3 remake or what ??
more like D2 remake
@@TheSpiacy it's nothing like d2 lol
@@TheSpiacy D2 is a legend. D3 is crap. D4 will be... lesser crap? Lets see :)
Ya so far the demo scream D3 all the way.. oh wait they added D2 terms...
D2 is like a Porsche 911... Thru the year they got the 911 better and better... But it's still the same car after all those year...
D3 was a failed attempt
D4 sounds to be an attempt of what D3 should have been when it launched.. they put lots of money in D3 they will use tons of D3 crap to make their money back
@@guillaumebrasseur1648 agree, this is more like D3 remake or what should have been on day one. I dont think the team gets why D2 was D2 in first place. the item looks exactly like D3, even the inventory sysytem.
Looks and feels like D3, that's a no go for me.
D2 will always b the best. This game does not look good just like d3. Lame
I think Diablo 2 had leveling and gearing right to a degree. There were per-requisites for gear and end game content, but it was never required to reach maximum level. Being able to equip powerful items like HoZ, Arreat's Face, Occy or Titans at 42 was amazing (less than half way!). Putting an end to Hell Baal in the 60's is totally doable, with Uber Tristram being capable before even considering reaching the 90's. This was all possible on the journey to powering up and how far you went with it was your decision.
I'm not saying a replica of this is required for D4, but I think some inspiration from this would work wonders.
pog champ " fuuuuhhhkk " lol , I loved it.
atm it looks like dark diablo 3.5
Blizzard needs to fire every single member of the D3 crew.
Huge generic areas, with easy dying hordes of monsters spawning from cliffs or ceilings, destroy the character of the game and it's atmosphere.
It needs to be slower, harder, few but solid storylines, not mass quests.
Tldr; the game needs to have a soul.
*Its atmosphere
@@Ta3iapxHs _Your're_ funny...
Totally agree with you OP, really don't want Blizzard to turn this into a top-down Doom without guns.
The character is preset already at level 20. They just wanted to showcase abilities and general gameplay I'm guessing. Balance will (or SHOULD be.. it's Blizzard, after all) improved before release.
They literally explained that its in pre alpha....
Poor flying woof. RIP 2019.
Was honestly hoping for something similar to D2 or at least something better than a d3 reskin with darker colors. The while premise of skill, potion cooldowns need to go. Bring back character mana to each class, and limit the skill tree to actual character builds, instead of having one character max everything every possible build. Extremely disappointed so far sadly
You people are dissapointing.You would still be dissapointed if you get a clone of d2 with d4 story.Its just cry and cry but you can't see how detailed and dark the atmosphere is .Like a diablo 2 in 2019.Every game is a reskin.Shooters are shooters with different themes and same with every rpg .Different theme and story but the same hack and slash loot roller coaster.What matters is the good story,the dark atmosphere and we are getting the old characters back.Oh and since its 2019 we get a lot more content like,clan ,raid,pvp etc.And you dont have to play them but its good to have different options for different people.Some people have no idea how much time it takes to make a game so detailed while you people Q.Q all day.You could not even paint a detailed rock for the game ...
@@darkcorex4361 Lol, nobody ever said they were themselves a game designer. Take your personal thoughts out of it, silly. Not every game is a reskin, dont know who told you that weird concept.
It's gonna be tough appealing to the D2 crowd :) The loot does not feel special at all. In D2, even low level sets and uniques have substance about them, the stats, the art work, the names... Watching sequels of the game makes me appreciate the sheer detail about D2 even more. The music and build options is also a huge aspect of D2. As Llama said, there is plenty of room for improvement, yet there are also key elements to emulate as strictly as possible to make D4 a keeper. Who are the guys who worked on item creation for D2? Sure, runewords made a whole bunch of unique items obsolete in the game which is a shame considering how much work was put into creating them in the first place... But then RW were also very well integrated. Despite a definite imbalance (at the fair cost of being very difficult to find) , it was a new element that remained well within the impeccable structure of the game. FHR, FCR, MF%, FRW, CB, DS/CS, OW, auras... Incredible attention to detail in the item mods. As it stands with the current D4 demo, aside from obvious aesthetic improvements, I really like the idea of a much larger map and would appreciate well contrasted landscapes with mobs to suit (D2 acts worked great but D4 could streamline it better as a single map that evolves as you explore the territory and background music needs to follow suit...another core element of D1/D2 feel). I'd say get rid of damage numbers popping up all over and as someonw in the comments mentioned, health bars as well unless you scroll over the specific element. It clutters up the screen and disrupts immersion, as does the glow-upon-hitting effect. A bit more colour would be welcome to highlight world design which is convincing enough so far. Work on the sound effects associated with item use, equipped/removed from char/inventory, whether it be weapons, armour, runes, pots or scrolls... Game mechanics/animation looks fine, just lacks the soundtrack and immersive feel due to too many on-screen distractions. Watching the demo like this definitely won't help though, I get that. Background blizzcon noise etc... Just remember that no amount of pretty graphics can make up for lack of substance and I think D2 nailed the devil in the detail. Would be really cool working on this project :)
It's way out, we don't even know what the itemization will be like.
@@Andarius All the more reason to emphasize these points in case they're reading. The point of the whole thing is to get feedback, so feedback they get :)
@@Andarius it's pretty clear they're using a d3 clone with a new engine and blizzard is too lazy to have to use their brains when they know they'll sell millions regardless.
@@tomaskral9075 However useful or not they are in terms of making your character stronger, they have a lot of artistic thought put into them, from the name to the design. Even playing online with easy access to runewords, they added value to the game as collectables.
I think the fun things about d2 are the itemizations, the moving stuff around inventory, limited potion in the bags. People have limited spec points and skill points to think about the strategy, and than d2 hell is just totally different game, you can’t kill everything you see you got to skip them. And D3 just click click click, cool effects kills everything. Oh you don’t like the skill set, you can change immediately, you lost the feeling of attachment, because it’s so flexible. And D4 feels just the same.
In the core, D2 is a strategy game in a action role play body. D3 is just modernized an action role play, with light strategy.
Blizzard needs to bring back Hit Recovery ... like in D2. This is easy freaking mode.
I really hope items will have many more different stats possible to roll on them because right now it is way too simplified, basically attack, defense on everything, you see green, you click to swap it and that's it.
Why is EVERYONE saying how dark it is and how D2 it looks??! All I see is washed out desaturated graphics, without basically any light radius... That's exactly what D1 and D2 was NOT. They had colors! They were just dark, not nonexistent. This looks just so... dull. Please, return at least a bit of saturation, and make the light radius (basically vignette) return
Having ultimate abilities means that those abilities will be inherently stronger than most of the other abilities. So why would I not build around CDR and spam my "ultimate" compared to making a build around another ability. I think the ideas of CDs in general are lazy, thats what cast speed/attack speed and resource management are for, but I especially think ultimate abilities are a horrendous idea.
You don't like the idea of having an ultimate during say a world boss or boss fights ?, I guess it's bad if you HAVE TO pick a one, but if you can swap of having an ult or something of basic ability extra = then that would be fine :)
@@VArsovski10 The problem with "swapping" is that ultimates will always be stronger than every other ability, so you'd be an idiot to swap out of it.
@@BmoreGaming This is a very 2d interpretation of Ultimate skills. You comment seems to assume that your ultimate is just a bigger normal attack. Sometimes this is the case, however there are different skill types besides dmg, buffs, debuffs, movement skills, all of which can benefit from being supercharged into a stronger or 'ultimate' ability.
You also have to weigh up CD on ultimate's. It's just a different way of getting power on command instead of power over time from standard style skills.
One could also argue that the final skills in many D2 class trees were precursor ultimates, many had CD's and did extreme damage, in this case the only thing that's changed is the label on said skills from 'skill' to 'ultimate'.
IMO games, especially ARG's need to evolve, which means we need changes for better or worse, that devs can learn from to make the next set of changes better.
@@Kerm0 zzzzzzzzzz
@@BmoreGaming your making a lot of asdumptions freinds lol. It might just be literally impossible to spam. And if so. You have no point. We just dont know enough yet. Ultimates are not a bad idea, but if they can be spammable they would be.
looks like a lazy diablo 3 re skin.
The cutscene was so freaking Tomb Raider.
The item system looks pretty awful so far..
J Bowen yeah... It looks too simple, like diablo 3... Is that what you meant?
@@ghhdgjjfjjggj hahahahahahaha...it looks CRAP
Yea it looks liek a even more Dumbed down Diablo 3 itemisation, they just should not look at D3 at all. The game failed on all fronts.
agree...not a indicator already
Isnt it a little early for a d3 remake?
Finally! Mr Llamas first impressions, this is what i have been waiting for all day!
Wasn't that impressed, and then I heard "content scaled" and booted up good ol' D2
When I tried it at Blizzcon, it was almost indistinguishable from D3. Perhaps they've made progress in differentiating them, but from what I've seen, D4 is every bit as comic booky/over the top/cartoony/etc as D3.
It's just D3 with a slightly darker colour palette. To say I'm disappointed is an understatement. I have no hope whatsoever for it, but at least we have D2 and Resurrected.
The enemies could look more dead like in D2
D3 remastered....
talent tree should not be some kind of increase damage etc, they could build some really could stuff out there, ignite spead then ignited target die, your ice damage can ignite enemies etc etc stuff like dat, which bring lot of diversities and fun,
So... I guess I'll just keep playing D2 for 10 more years
Feels and looks like a darker D3?
Sadly yes :(
How does it feel like it! Looks way slower, and it does not look that much as Diablo 3? More PoE og you have to make a comparison.
Daniel Madsen I think it looks slower because of the level the character is. 20 I believe they said? I imagine 60-80 would be much faster paced.
Looks much better, but there's still that shitty fog effect everywhere...
You're all clowns. The games years out. They threw this together to patch up last year's blizzcon.
Cooldowns need to go away.. They are a garbage mechanic. The demo looks like an exact Diablo 3 reskin.
Yeah I'm not super happy with the cooldowns. I always hated CD on skills like that
Does the red highlighting around enemies when attacking bug anyone else, or is it just me?
it bothers me too.
If you don't have cooldowns, you'll end up spamming your most buffed up skill through the entire game, just like in Diablo 2 and Path of Exile. There's a huge amount of enemies near you, you spam your Q (or 1) since it's your most damaging spell. If there's one single boss in front of you, you just spam your Q (1) because it's your most damaging skill.
With cooldowns, it's possible to balance out the damage that you will be using lots of skills instead of just the one that is your highest damaging spell, the one spell that you've specced into. It worked amazingly for Diablo 3, before they started making items that buff one specific skill like, 400 %. Then it turned into just spamming your one skill every time. Speccing into using one skill is fine, but if the damage of that skill makes all other skills obsolete, the combat turns into; Use skill number 1, use skill number 1, use mobility skill, use skill number 1, etc...
All in all, it's a matter of balancing out the items, but if there are no cooldowns, it's impossible to do. Earthquake with a 2 minute cooldown should ALWAYS do more damage than a skill you can spam, it gives the player much more options what to use.
Honestly looks like D3. I will never stop playing D2. And really an SOJ that quick? Loots not gonna feel special at all. You cant capture lightning in a bottle twice. Im not saying it doesnt look good, but for us D2 veterans that have been playing for 20 plus years this has almost to much to live up to imo.
Did they bring back any Game developers from D2??? If no then they only have developers with Diablo 3 wisdom and that might not be enough to give players a finished product that feels like Diablo 2 with better graphics. Which is what we want.
at first i was hyped but not anymore. too many things to get into and some are in comments already but the one that annoys me most is the mmo part of it, playing open world with hundreds of people just doesn't fit in diablo universe for me.i guess i would want a combination of median and pod so more like a remake or even a remaster with QOL improvements and a little added content would be great. even tho it's an old engine, i will always prefer the d2 look and i think specifically median looks great on 3dfx and 1024*768. having seen how war3 reforged looks like i think i would prefer a remaster with as little or no graphical changes because i strongly feel d2 captured that special dark feeling when playing. so overall what i would want to see is a more flexible skill system with more builds, improved stats (like in median, where you gain direct benefits from stats towards skills rather than just dumping all points in vita), new items and specifically a lot more new quests and charms, more content with bigger and high density farming areas that gradually gets harder as we progress, a better trading system, lots of QOL changes like more stash and inventory space
Dude its pre pre alpha.And the graphic and atmosphere is better already.And you dont have to play with other or raid.But its 2019.Gaming world is more open and i prefer the open world in diablo and the fact that you can see others..Its more alive this way.Weird that people sometimes cry for lack of content and now they cry for too much content.I dont mind having many many options in the game.You dont have to play them all but at least you can choose many things for my money.
Ah, my favorite D2 streamer and PoE streamer in one video. I can't handle it!
The mechanics of D2 was so intricate and customizable. There are so many things one needs to understand to enjoy the game fully. For example, regarding the loot system you need to consider item level, area level, monster level, mf%, treasure classes etc.
And when it comes to combat system, unlike D3 and 4 which where “damage” is all that matters, in D2 you really had to consider the likes of attack rating, defense, resistances, block chance, and your character level vs monster level etc.
It just feels like Blizzard is targeting the younger audience of this generation, which needs everything spoon fed to them.
That's exactly what made D2 tedious to play past the Normal difficulty... There was so many crap to take in consideration... ugh...
In regards to a younger audience- I think you're right, but the sad irony is Diablo2 was the first computer game I ever fell inloce with, and I was playing when I was 10/11
@@Preacher_. Same here. My 10-year-old brain wasn't able to comprehend a lot of things and Internet sucked back then so looking for answers online wasn't very doable, but I kept playing and understood more and more about this game and was finally able to beat Hell difficulty after another ten years....
I have to disagree on one point here. Don't slam this "spoon feeding" etiquette on the younger folks just to justify the decline of AAA games. Young people enjoy substance just as much as anybody else. I think blizzard is trying to bring spoon feeding to simplify their work and reach more gamers. Flashy games are not new and a whole generation is not entitled to them.
yeah... i think im gonna skip this too. i'll keep to Diablo 2 for now until they make an HD version.
The game looks very much like D3 with its inventory and skill selection. If all skill categories can be maxed out, and if level 40 is the cap, this makes me anticipate the return of the paragon system. Hopefully the game starts to feel more like the older Diablo games. Changing the inventory slots and sizes for equipment and adding new art would be a great step. Odds are these reused D3 item sprites are just for the sake of demo.
Still though would like to see this game look less like D3, and more like its own game or at least closer in feel to the first two games.
yeah I think a lot was used for the demo from D3 but I expect them to change
In terms of gameplay? Hard to change since it’s an action RPG game. Most of them look like D3
Looks boring as hell. The graphics, models and sounds make it weak. It doesn't look cool like d1 & 2.
literally the only part I like about it is "The graphics, models and sounds" everything else I don't like lol
Looks like a dark themed D3 as of now. :(
Plays better than a D3 but there's a lot to be done to improve it away from that D3 style with like items
@@MrLlamaSC I just hope that they used those D3 things just for pre-alpha demo.
Sorry MrLama you had to go through this.... the event and the game... im missing words to describe the actual state of Blizzard and their games..... Being a 1.09 D2 player myself, im losing faith here. . . . RIP old blizzard.
Same here Mr.LlamaSC! I NEVER was a "D3 guy" (absolutely was DISAPPOINTED with that game). I am and will ALWAYS be a *D2 guy* (and now also a *D2R guy)* too! :D
The druid forms HAVE to be permanent forms. 100000%
i thought the person next to u was angry joe lmao!!
40:00 flying wolf :D
I like the slower combat pace. makes you feel like your actions have agency. unlike diablo 3 or modern POE
Inventory looks ugly as fuck ;)
its allover looks more like a mobile game then a Real Dark Diablo Game....
btw Sorceress, Druid & Necro are all the same. They stand in the back and cast Magic. All this Mouseclicking for Melee targeting is just annoying
Breath of the Wild WORST Zelda Game ever...although its not even a Zelda anymore
I want to feel fear as in Diablo 2, although D4 looks dark I feel only a "hurry run fight feel" again as in D3...I want to get chilled, feared, slowered...look now for comparison at gameplay for D2, the first time you are placed in Rogues' Camp, it gets me everytime.
Nothing about an arpg is going to be scary like it was for you the first time 20 years ago. Thats not what the genre is about
We: like the dark and evil-looking Diablo 2
What the designers hear: Zero color. Literally make it all grey.