This man is on another level...the best there is. The one or two critics are guys that have "no corn in the crib'. Im hesitant to listen to critics that aren't providing the same or better content.
Keep researching, I have been researching these sounds for 21 years, you have the edge on me because you are older. I have proven my interpretation to work for 14 years and with 5 pope and young bulls of my own. I helped many with their pope and young success. I am not trying to be a jerk but there is a boat that you are missing. Take care
Over the week end I called in some cows to my tree stand and the oldest cow smelled my dad and did a call that was long and low like one you did here, but with a horse lips blow at the end of it. I've NEVER heard that before. She went way around us. She came back the next day, but kept her distance. Her frequency was one call every 20-35 seconds for about 6 calls total. I spotted them silent 200 yards away (laying down) and got them to get up and come to about 65 yards before getting busted
@elkmonk Congrats on your bulls Sir! For the record, I just listened to the 8.40 clip again, there are no wrong sounds or thoughts there! You may be thinking that the "Lost Cow" sound is also a re-gathering sound bulls & cows both use, this is a correct thought & I do explain this in detail in the various DVDs. We've taken over 150 bulls in the last 20 years on OTC units public land, in the last 8 years since the release of our instructional DVDs over 1000 more have been taken! Thanks!
On the "Top" question, we hunt all over but mainly in Idaho! I hope your brother finds the info useful, nothing like hunting elk in the Rut!!!!!! ElkNut/Paul
@House6409 All depends if you've already located a bull by calling? Bugles are best for location of other elk, cows sounds mixed in with a few timely bugles imitating an "Elk Party" can excite both satellite bulls & herd bulls as well as their harems, this type of method can really bring other elk your way. The use of cow or bull sounds individually all depends on the encounter at hand? ElkNut
Brian, which exact sound did this cow use? Are you referring to the Popping/Nervous Grunt? Was it a nasally mew or whine? Whatever it was it sounded like she was very nervous. It's possible she smelled your dad or where the two of you may have walked around before entering stands! Thanks! ElkNut
@House6409 -- No not at all, selective sounds like certain cow & bull sounds can & are used for locating unseen or un-heard elk! This is called "Location Sounds" Bugling for bulls is a common way & very effective for bulls to give away their location, once located a hunter would move in closer as quickly as possible being stealthy & keeping wind in your favor, you now need a good "setup" using an "elk party" method is deadly on most elk here! It provokes curiosity! ElkNut
@elkmonk I think what you were trying to say is that cows & bulls can make the same sounds? This is correct! The meanings I discuss that any elk makes are correct, I've researched this for 29 years, adjustments are needed for clarification at times but that's about it . Please be more specific with the sounds heard you disagree with! Thanks! You can email me at elknut@elknut.com
A lot of your sounds and explainations are incorrect...you know how to make the sounds but even your sounds between the cows and calves are incorrect; all bulls regardless of size and age can make all the sounds a bull elk make...I agree with you on one thing, By understanding what these calls mean do make your success rate better...
This man is on another level...the best there is. The one or two critics are guys that have "no corn in the crib'. Im hesitant to listen to critics that aren't providing the same or better content.
Keep researching, I have been researching these sounds for 21 years, you have the edge on me because you are older. I have proven my interpretation to work for 14 years and with 5 pope and young bulls of my own. I helped many with their pope and young success. I am not trying to be a jerk but there is a boat that you are missing. Take care
Excellent information, forwarding this to my brother, cause he loves to talk to elk.
Over the week end I called in some cows to my tree stand and the oldest cow smelled my dad and did a call that was long and low like one you did here, but with a horse lips blow at the end of it. I've NEVER heard that before. She went way around us. She came back the next day, but kept her distance. Her frequency was one call every 20-35 seconds for about 6 calls total. I spotted them silent 200 yards away (laying down) and got them to get up and come to about 65 yards before getting busted
Thanks! I appreciate your comments! Elk make many sounds & it's a ton of fun figuring them out! Good Luck in your hunts!
ElkNut/Paul
@elkmonk Congrats on your bulls Sir! For the record, I just listened to the 8.40 clip again, there are no wrong sounds or thoughts there! You may be thinking that the "Lost Cow" sound is also a re-gathering sound bulls & cows both use, this is a correct thought & I do explain this in detail in the various DVDs. We've taken over 150 bulls in the last 20 years on OTC units public land, in the last 8 years since the release of our instructional DVDs over 1000 more have been taken! Thanks!
On the "Top" question, we hunt all over but mainly in Idaho!
I hope your brother finds the info useful, nothing like hunting elk in the Rut!!!!!!
ElkNut/Paul
that was one of the best elk calling vids ive ever seen good jobs guys ill be looking for your dvds...where u guys hunt ?
@House6409
All depends if you've already located a bull by calling? Bugles are best for location of other elk, cows sounds mixed in with a few timely bugles imitating an "Elk Party" can excite both satellite bulls & herd bulls as well as their harems, this type of method can really bring other elk your way. The use of cow or bull sounds individually all depends on the encounter at hand?
ElkNut
Rookie hunter here: Are cow & calf calls beneficial to drawing out a bull or should you stick to the bugle? Thanks for the tips!
Brian, which exact sound did this cow use? Are you referring to the Popping/Nervous Grunt? Was it a nasally mew or whine? Whatever it was it sounded like she was very nervous. It's possible she smelled your dad or where the two of you may have walked around before entering stands! Thanks!
ElkNut
Thanks man i really enjoyed this vid im new to calling and this really helped.
@House6409 -- No not at all, selective sounds like certain cow & bull sounds can & are used for locating unseen or un-heard elk! This is called "Location Sounds" Bugling for bulls is a common way & very effective for bulls to give away their location, once located a hunter would move in closer as quickly as possible being stealthy & keeping wind in your favor, you now need a good "setup" using an "elk party" method is deadly on most elk here! It provokes curiosity! ElkNut
@1ElkNut1 So I should have already encountered elk before using a call?
@elkmonk I think what you were trying to say is that cows & bulls can make the same sounds? This is correct! The meanings I discuss that any elk makes are correct, I've researched this for 29 years, adjustments are needed for clarification at times but that's about it . Please be more specific with the sounds heard you disagree with! Thanks! You can email me at elknut@elknut.com
I hope he picture himself as a large majestic elk!
A lot of your sounds and explainations are incorrect...you know how to make the sounds but even your sounds between the cows and calves are incorrect; all bulls regardless of size and age can make all the sounds a bull elk make...I agree with you on one thing, By understanding what these calls mean do make your success rate better...
decent calling~