Marillion - Forgotten Sons - Old Grey Whistle Test - 1983
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Marillion perform Forgotten Sons from their debut album, Script for a Jester's Tear. Edited repeat from "The Whistle Test Years"
10/5/13 - Fish commented on this video on his facebook feed this week!
I remember this when first broadcast (the whole piece was played). Northern Ireland Troubles. Thank God that dark chapter has gone.
I can't believe I just happened to stumble onto this recording. About 20 years ago (I'd have been around 14/15) this was on TV and I just caught the last few minutes of this performance. I had no idea what the song was called, but I remember sitting there mesmerised by what I saw. I hadn't really heard anything of marillion, but I knew my mother had a tape of theirs, so I had hoped to find this on there. What I got instead was Grendel as the first track and it blew me away! I immediately rewound the tape to listen again, all 17 minutes of it! The rest of the tape was great, but Grendel was unmatched at the time! Fish went on to perform on the 1999 Ayreon album, Into the Electric Castle, and last year they performed the album live with him returning as the highlander. Since it comes out on DVD/Blu Ray shortly, I was inspired to look up some Marillion vids (especially Grendel as it has been years since I heard it) and...this performance shows up on the list. The one that started it all for me. Finally, after 20 years, I've seen the whole thing! I know this is a bloody long post. Sometimes I have a tendency to over explain things. I just thought it was a pretty cool thing. I reckon I'll be getting hold of some albums as I forgot how much I loved this band!
I was born in 78 and fortunately have been bought up on this music by my father and I thank him for that.i really love my death/thrash/grind/prog rock/metal but I still listen to this now along with genesis,rush as this music never ages or gets tired.for me my fave song still has to be SCRIPT,the lyrics combined with fish's emotions and the music is untouched by the garbage out today.
Steve Rothery, most underrated rock guitarist since forever.
👍 Yep! Agreed. He's a Unique guitarist. 🎵=🔑
Astonishing song and performance. Fish-era Marillion were superb.
fish is more than a singer, he was an actor. incorporated the art into the music
and not least a poet!!
Fish is genius! His lyrics, acting and the music is all incredibly moving!
Never the same after fish left marillion,that is when I stopped listening to them just like when Hugh left the stranglers?
never have i heard a band with lyrics even half as good as those of marillion
Absolutely agree with that
Still gives me goose bumps 31 years on ......classic
Fucking BRILLIANT!!! Shame Fish has no voice anymore... He was probably one of the ultimate performers in sounding almost exactly the same whether live or recording!!
I saw "The Web" tour at Guildford Civic Hall on 17th of March 1983, with a group of friends of which only one had heard them before. They were simply brilliant!
I was so impressed with their performance that I bought the programme and vinyl copy of the Script for a Jester's Tear album from the foyer and I still have them today
I remember Fish shooting me with mike stand at Lancaster in 81.......still brings tears to my eyes this music.
I was at the recording and met the band afterwards. Fish was chatty, the others quiet. He said ‘Doing VC TV is f**king murder’ Great to meet him and also Andy Ward the drummer originally with Camel another superb prog band!
after all those years i still enjoy this song from the safety of my living room chair ...
To quote Pendragon's singer ( Nick Barrett ) about Marillion : "their music was a bit like Genesis, but their singer Fish had a "Johnny Rotten" rage in his voice".
Absolutely superb. Makes today's music seem pretty lame. Amazing what the fear of instant annihilation at any moment can do for art.
spot on man xx
What a great vocal performance
Brilliant. Went to a lot of concerts in the 80's, not many I can remember now but saw Marillion at Newcastle Mayfair in 1983 and wow what an experience.
Expression and emotion of singer is absolutly unique and beautyful. The musiciens are very good. Marillion with Fish, classic rock...
PERFECT DISPLAY OF PASSION & POWER
Such an impact on my growth I named my daughter kayleigh, love fish & Steves guitar have the magic touch ❤️
Mark had hair, Fish had hair, Steve had less belly... the good old days.
With Andy Ward of Camel on drums...!
I didn't even notice at first!.
was just about to ask who it was
“For a second you’ll be famous but labelled posthumous”.... brilliant!
I watched this first time round. Unforgettable, ironically enough.
Fish was absolutely superb. The voice is so unique. Love albums with Fish only.
It was 1983, I saw this compilation show, I think it was New Year's Eve 1983. I was poor, in a crap relationship, in a freezing flat somewhere in the arse end of Northern England. 2 years earlier I had refused my guaranteed place in the Junior Army. Hearing those lyrics, I realised that if I had taken up that vacancy, that night, in another life, I may have been on patrol in Belfast, a scared 18 year old with a loaded gun.
Wow.. This brings back some memories.
Saw Marillion several times and loved em !!
It used to piss me off that all my workmates would brand them as a Genesis clone band, which I always thought was complete bollocks.. nothing like em.. much better lyrics !!
"I got into Marillion at a time when Genesis had become embarrassing." lol yes too right :)
After Peter Grabriel..!
Of course.....☮🙏🏻
Remember watching on OGWT and the effect it had on me. Never had had a song affect me like that.
Brilliant, my favourite band when i was younger. fascinating to see them isolated from their usual crowd energy and still rocking. Just great.
Meaningful song for the time 👍👍👍👍👍
Caught these guys in Glasgow Scotland in 84, and by far, was most memorable. Where are they today?
Marillion is Marillion only with Fish!
Been a LONG time Fish-era Marillion fan and Ive never seen this clip till now...Good Christ, I miss this band.
Great to see Camel's Andy Ward on drums. Unfortunately he is retired for a long time.
I loved his energetic drumming during his period with Camel
What a wonderful song...the lirycs...the musics...all package...
słucham tego od lat i ciągle mi mało. Superkapela bez dwóch zdań.
Gret tune, exellent lyrics, about how apart from family and freinds the soldiers are forgotten about until it comes up on the news.As fish said this songs very pro army but strongly anti war.
Thanks for the Upload ! What a Epic song still rings true today ! Timeless masterpiece !
its so relevant, I'm crying and want to die too. Desert Storm vet.. Broke my mind. sorry, venting.
Hang in their bro
@@adrianaugustus2815 Wow, 8 years since that comment. Been ups and downs, but doing fine these days despite the craziness of the world. Best wishes guy!
Andy Ward drummer monster
The song is as relevant today as ever... sadly...
The best Line from Fish. "Your girl has married your best friend, poisoned him". Truly a Scottish poet.
It's 'poison pen'.
I remember seeing this when broadcast, the way Fish captivated and especially the ending theatrics. Describe his act to another and it sounds tacky, but he pulls it off, takes you with him on that little mime even now when I rewatch it nearly 40 years later, the strength of his lyrics is exceptional, but to match that with captivating performance is simply unfair on other artists
I'm going to see Marillion with a chum in December at Manchester Ritz. Can't wait for the gig,it's a new venue for us. Obviously they won't deliver us this absolute CLASSIC but whatever they choose to play will be sublime to the ears,as it always has been with this stunning ,awesome fantabidabulous band! (Fish vs Hogarth.....for me both brilliant,I can't see what all the fuss is about,Fish left decades ago and was very capably replaced....and so the show goes on as they say).
FOLKS! I WAS THERE!
marco antonio are you serious holy mother
Did you take Cleopatra along with you? Haha sorry...
Lucky bastard!
After Fish left, that was it for me.
Heard this in Maysfield leisure centre Belfast was the encore, no recording i know of exists of it was the best rendition of Forgotten Sons ever
Remember watching this at the time.
Had it on video for ages on the old VHS, great to see a decent copy on here.
Epic version with haunting guitar.
nao se trata apenas da voz.... fish insuperável...
Should be on any shortlist of greatest rock bands. Fish is one of the most charismatic front men ever.
In the late 80s this song was a favourite of British Squaddies...
Thanks Fish......my poet
Kudos to the cameraman for actually staying on Rothery during the guitar solo and not showing the drummer or Fish, etc like some other videos.
Timeless classic
Incredible performance...and that ending is just....wow
saw him in york last week was immense,what a performer and finished with fugazi awsome night.
there is nothing wrong with the Hogarth era Marillion - BRAVE is an EPIC album!!
But you know it's not the 'real' Marillion as featured in this particular video!
I was at the BBC that evening meeting with a relative who worked there. In the canteen area we bumped into Steve and Pete. As we recognized and approached them (dressed in rock gig supporter gear) they were surprised and asked if we were there to see them perform. However there was a look of disappointment when we explained we were off to see Rush that evening at Wembley!
rush are rush, the best resource against a mental alien invasion also if of body snatchers hehe
ANDY WARD!
really? LOL i didnt recognize him
Andy Ward from the great and only CAMEL
I prefer Mick Pointer.
Great sound. My favourite neo prog band
I live just up the road from Ballykelly. This song still brings a tear to my eye, thinkin of the massacres i witnessed here as a kid.
Modern day Fish is still great - try Feast of consequences and you will weep once again at the lyrics, the sentiment and the delivery.
Cool, why am I just seeing this now? One of the few appearances with Andy Ward. CLASS! Thank you for sharing!!!
Perhaps the most powerful song about the Troubles.
Brilliant .
Just brilliant.
@gareth4493 Those of us who lived through the 70's and 80's in the UK were aware of the weekly bombings and the troubles...
Many people in the forces would check under their car every morning before going to work...
Cracking Live Band, Taking Over Genesis's Mantle when they went Poppy . ; )
Thanks for this video. Wonderful !
That was awesome
Please never let yourself to forget your sons!
Classic! Just watched him live in Warrington he didn't do this one :( but enjoyed the show, class musician
I can only listen to this song alone. Its embarrassing to cry in front of other grown ups.
Marillion are Great Musicians and only influenced by Genesis! These guys are pleasantly original.
OUTSTANDING
@RezzKalozzTV - That's exactly it, the right word to sum-up Fish with Marillion - Magic! They had something there, in those days, and it was magic.
So listen to Van der Graaf Generator. Fish, and Peter Gabriel as well, were giving Peter Hammill as their master.
What a classic ending Ha!
Damn, that is Camel's Andy Ward on drums right?
Correct!
Wooh wooh never mind your squabbles this is heavily edited from the original OGWT. A huge chunk missing!!
The end is just wonderfull. Fish is an artist in every sense, and his voice was amazing on their albums with Marillion.
Long live Marillion, long live Fish.
Come and see Still Marillion in Ruislip London 21st July 2012
Still a totally relevant song
A poet no more said !
Great song with that same driving beat that's found in Pink Floyd's "Sheep". I often call this a Celtic beat, or a slip jig. The young Fish, who often recalls Peter Gabriel, really gets into it.
outstanding!
Brilliant! Raw classic Marillion but someone’s turned the keys down too low ! All though they come back up later ! Fish is on best form ‘n
Best musicians since js Bach
Absolutamente brilhante!
and Rothery yes Sir.
Twice in a thousand years artistry
The best ever
la claque ! il y a 35 ans déjà !!
et je les écoute toujours avec ou sans Fish, ou Fish avec ou sans MArillion ;-)
In 1983 Mick Pionter was the drummer, I know as I got faceless with them as early as Feb 1982
FISH was Marillion.
Alfonso Reyes I think you are wrong.
But Marillion certainly isn't Fish.
That so "sad". This band have so talents, all the musicians. Really.
But yes, with Fish that was really Marillion.
Steve Hogarth isn't a bad singer, he is good.
But he is so différent, all had change.
And Fish is like Plant : nobody can't found a singer for doing something similar.
Srry for my por English, i don't use translator, and i hope it's unsderstable.
Pure genius
succinctly put!
..EL regeton es una moda.. el rock una cultura
My tribute for Marillion - FORGOTTEN SONS (almost a cappella)