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Perhaps I may be able to answer some of your questions. I have been associated with the local historical society here in New England for many years. We have been going over old property maps, some going back to when the Dutch were in the area in the early 1600s; locating, reestablishing, refurbishing and repairing abandoned cemeteries. We have A LOT of old cemeteries here.
So, your idea of what may have been a church foundation is probably correct. Until the 20'th century and still in some rural communities, cemeteries were on the property and usually next to the church. Some of these churches were very small, perhaps 16' to 24' wide by 30' or 40' long. More like a small chapel. by the 20th century more communities were using community cemeteries. Farm families had cemeteries on their property.
the bricks may have been part of the church's fireplace. The thick broken stones could very well have been a thick hearth stone for the fireplace. Church floors were made of wood to conserve heat, except in the south where the termites would eat the wood away.
That eroded ditch going into the river was most likely the drainage for an old outhouse. It's in the same place we find them around here. the 1800s sewer system. They didn't know much about pollution back then and EVERYTHING went into the closest waterway.
However, some rules applied to these old cemeteries, both church and municipal, and this is why you find graves with or without markers, outside of the boundaries. The people who were buried there were: non-members of the church, foreigners (which could include Canadians) or others not living in that community or members of that church, If it was a Protestant church then Catholics would be buried outside. The reverse with a Catholic church. They would also exclude, dance hall girls, traveling salesmen, hookers and slaves(indentured servants with the Dutch) and criminals. Often these were buried stacked on top of each other. People who died of smallpox or other contagious diseases also had a space outside the cemetery. Yes, there were more slaves in the North than in the south. Both black and white slaves. So, many communities had slave cemeteries. Others they didn't know what to do with, were buried outside the community cemetery. You can usually find these burials in town records, except for farm family burial plots.
So NEVER disturb the grave of one of these people on the outside lest you stir up a nasty disease.
Some cemeteries had paved carriage ways so the horses and the hearse wouldn't sink into the ground. Some of the horse drawn hearses weighed as much as a dump truck because of the decorations on them. We still use one on occasion for special requests.
If you find an unmarked grave of a Veteran, no matter what war, contact the local American Legion so they can properly mark and maintain the grave site. This person probably isn't on their records.
Headstones were usually carved by itinerant stone carvers who moved from town to town. The person who did the one which is clear, was carved by a left handed person due to the left slant of the writing. Some of these can be very beautiful, museum quality, bias-relief carvings. Around here, many have been destroyed by well intentioned people trying to clean them and using the WRONG materials because they didn't know what the headstone was made of. Most of ours are made of sandstone or marble, and bleach will dissolve the rock and destroy the headstone, then they scrubbed them with a stiff brush, removing the carvings. Contact the local funeral home to find out what to use on what stones.
Some of the indentations are due to Grave Robbers digging up graves of the wealth to remove jewelry they were buried with. some of the bodies were then discarded. Others are collapsed graves due to wood coffins rotting.
We have a tool which when inserted into a possible grave site picks up methane and lets you know if there is a body in that grave and it hasn't been removed or is an unmarked grave.
Mason jars were very common until the invention of the home deep freeze in the 60s. Everyone canned and used the jars for everything including vases.
Tin was always roofing never siding. It was too expensive to side anything with it. In the northeast they used and still mostly use slate or more modern roofing materials A few people still roof with tin but not many. it's still expensive.
So that's your short history of cemeteries. Hope this gives you a better explanation and understanding of what you are investigating.
This is great. Thanks!
Wow, thank you for all your information about cemeterys. I am reading the blog and came across yours. Very interesting, I learned something tonight, thank you!
Linda J. Nichols,
As one who is researching our family history thank you for all the great information.
Thanks for your information Linda
Jar for vase was my first thought. As well as lunch as there would be mourners that may have had to travel a greater distance than local family and friends.
In some cases these gravestones at old cemeteries are the only reminder or record that these people ever existed and visiting these graveyards and showing theses gravestones gives the dead honor and reminds us about the importance of preserving these places. Great video
The remnants of the mason jars is probably where people brought flowers for the graves. I've used them instead of a vase myself. They can endure heat and freezing a lot better than a traditional glass vase. I've enjoyed that you've done quite a few cemetery videos lately. I love prowling around old cemeteries. It's peaceful and usually full of history. Thanks for the work you put into bringing us these wonderful videos. Take care and be safe, Matt.
you would find old jars as back in the day not everyone could afford to send flowers by a florist. so they would fill a jar with water and fill it with their own flowers from their gardens or even wildflowers and place them graveside as a sign of respect.
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That infant grave with the bullet hole kills me 😥 how can anyone be so heartless
Jen H Yes, Jen, there is one thing a Mother always prays never happens. That any of her children would be taken before them. That would be it for me. You would have to lock me up. I’d lose my mind. For someone to be so heartless to put bullet holes in it, that is beyond despicable.
I totally agree Jen :'(. x
Can you say felony
Sadly Jen, there are people that heartless. To me that's cowardly. The dead can't defend themselves. But there will come a day when bad people have to answer for their actions.
There are so many people out there that has the devil in their heart and has no feelings for no one not even themselves. They have no souls.
This was a great adventure! A large place, mostly abandon, sad. Love how you search it all out.
Thank God my husband is buried in a Military Cemetery and then when I pass away I will be buried with my husband at the same Military Cemetery. It is guarded and no one can vandalize any part of the cemetery.
Hi I have been looking at a couple of videos and I must say that I have enjoyed myself watching them , I'm a new sub.
Love old cemeteries.... just the history of the people ❤️ great job
Oh wow. Amazing to see actual writing on the markers. Great find!
How about showing more of the stones. Names, dates, instead of bricks etc. Thx.
Hi Matt, I always find it so sad to see all of the fallen and cracked or broken markers just left there to get swallowed by the earth. I wonder if the mason jars were used as vases for flowers for the graves. Amazing how that tree swallowed up that boundary marker. Brilliant video, thank you. x
Those “tree stump markers” are for members of WOODSMEN OF THE WORLD, a fraternal lodge organization begun by an insurance company. Like the Elks, but for insurance salesmen.
Thanks for the info, I'll have to look them up!
539 Productions We have tons of pioneer cemeteries here in Portland and the surrounding area, and I started noticing those markers maybe 20 years or so back. A few actually have carvings on them that explains the whole thing. Hope I got my facts right. Wikipedia seems to agree, for whatever it’s worth!
Rick Drais, I always wondered about that. Thank you for the info.
Hi Matt! I'm a new subscriber I just wanted to say keep doing what you do, historical cemeteries are all but forgotten because of your videos.
Thank you, Vince! I am happy to help preserve them!
Thats place make me feel In absolutely peace. The silence, armony and the big extention of that place... WAO!🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for sharing another cemetery, enjoyed this one😉
Another awesome cemetery ntour! Thnk you for filming what I can no longer do! Makes me feel like I was there!
The jar is probably from flowers that were placed on the grave and forgotten. The metal piece was probably a small fence from when the tree was a sapling.
Back in the old day communities used to have pavillions and do picnics at the cemeteries.
Whatever works best for you, Matt, is fine... great video... It is so sad to see the state some stones are in. A lot of that is just due to time and nature.
Awesome but sad about the graves that got torn up out of the cemetery. Awesome explore thank you for sharing
Another great video Matt, your attention to detail is amazing.
Great video Matt. You're always very respectful. I appreciate that.
After watching these videos I find it very sad that some of these stones have been damaged and no one has repaired them. Seems like a slap in the face to the souls buried there.
You would love some of the grave yards here in the North East. We have the oldest graves in the U.S.A. It wuld be amazing for you to do a road trip up here!!!
This is such a beautiful cemetery, I feel so bad that someone would shoot a gun at a baby’s headstone. It’s so great of you to visit these cemeteries, and honor these people and remember them ❤️
Thirteen graves a amazing location and lots of history and yes those are carriage stones. And a very haunted location. Locals actually upkeep it. There is also a story of a children's school for the blind that used to be out there.. Check out our photos if ya want on Facebook at sassy paranormal
The glass jars most likely were used to be a Vase for flowers that a visitor brought to be left at the grave site, after a hard winter water remain in until it froze and crack apart. Nice tour
Love your cemetery videos, very respectful.
This is the first video of yours I've watched. I just stumbled on it by accident. I like how you try to figure out the what was there and why or how it got to be in the condition it's in.. I think the jars are what the families and friends brought flowers in. That's actually kind of a nice cemetery for being so old. Great job with your attention to detail!
Love this area of America, it looks similar to where I live in North Scotland (a bit warmer though 😂).
Well Matt that was another good video, glad to be traveling along to see. ✌
What a great way to spend my break, awesome video and again thanks for caring so much... The jar may have had a plant in it , when you poured it over it appeared to have some sort of roots ? Great video 🤗
The stone was probably a carriage way. Also, sea shells were a chesp paving material even through the 40s. Crush em up and they make a good road. In 120yrs or so, Im sure there was a building or 2. Depending on the owner, there are many reasons to be buried outside cemetary limits, flu epidemic, divorce, suicide, they werent allowed inside the borders. People also used to picnic in cemetaries. The nicest plots of land pre ww2 alot of times. Til the public park idea became common. Awesome find
I would love for you to check out a cemetery near where I live. Seems that no one ever visits and most graves are sinking. Very interesting. Love your videos
One of those is a zinc marker. They hold up really well.
Another great video. Thanks Matt
Thanks Matt. I always love the way you explain. Thank you
Awesome video Matt! You always find the best places to explore! Thanks for sharing!
thanks as always Matt. Good to know when to expect new videos. Amazing how well kept the area is. Is this a flood area?
Another great explore Matt. The headstone that was stacked logs kinda looked like a log house to me. The infant mortality rate used to be so high I'm surprised you didn't find more infant graves. There was a 4 sided stone @12:24 that had the mom listed on one side, might have said Mary Williams and she died June 9, 1897, on the next side it said infant died June 8, 1897. Good job doing detective work and trying to figure things out.
I'm glad spring showed up. Hope it stays this time.
Many members of my family are in old cemeteries in Indiana in the middle of farms. Old dirt roads lead to them. Madison county has a number of them. Some are next to abandoned churches. So sad as I trace my family history. Hope they are not forgotten in the future.
ive got interview for a job as a grave digger/to maintaining the graveyard also ao im glad their someone showing people that we need to respect the graves x
My dad did that for a while as well!
its really good money & apart from that you get to help the family's of passed away friends or family members just by simply looking after the grave yard making it look all nice for when the vist like this one their was grave right next to my grandads with no headstone but my grandad had a new one he had massive angle so i out that one their to show people their is someone buried their and still derisive to have somthing no matter what.
I always get notifications from you.
In the South, cockleshells were often used to cover grave sites, some being entirely covered using the shells like shingles. Sometimes shells are used to outline the grave, or simply left as a token from visitors. Same thing with white stones. I know leaving a white quartz stone was a big tradition in post-roman Britain, and that tradition came over here with the colonists. I still see white stones at graves today, but usually in older cemeteries in rural areas.
Another great video.Thank you Matt
People used to use jars to put fresh flowers into at a grave very interesting.
At about 21"00, you speculated that the square area might've been a foundation of some sort. I suspect it's a family plot. Often, folks ascribed to the philosophy that "we are all equal in life and death" ; therefore. no marker was desired since it would be considered ostentatious. A number of my ancestors are buried in unmarked plots for this reason.
Look like graves. Great video
Exceptional work ,as always .you always put your whole heart into it
It’s very beautiful place but why don’t they ever replace the markers or restore the ones that have fallen kinda makes you wonder but damn the people who use them for target practice.
I live in wv there's a old gaveyard here were all of them are sunk in like that the place is over grown and forgotten
I have to go to the library now and check out a book about gravestone meanings. I know the old markers have what is called “soul effigies.” Those are the ones with a face and wings. There is meaning to the old gravestones, which is why I love old cemeteries. Yes, I am a “grave girl.” The Chinese cemeteries around here are very interesting. One you would find very interesting is this one that is right by a freeway entrance. The markers are illegible, but I think the State maintains it every so often.
Excita Noctua Thanks! I will look it up!
Keep on posting Matt your vids are excellent......
Thanks, Dan!!
A great video..very interesting.
I don't get all notication, I clicked on 'all' but later when I check it's gone down to ' occasional ' notifications.
Thanks for sharing this, I really enjoyed it..
Good video.
hey you should go to the cemetary in Battle Ground north of Lafayette In.
the jars might have had flowers in them at one time. My family is from a small town and used to put fresh flowers in mason jars or washed out food jars
There used to be a driveway...🚙🚗🚕
Love these videos "!
you are at the Batson Cemetery in McNatts, Wells County, Indiana
Oh cool Matt!
I was intriguedby the video of the grave yard but would have really liked to have had to dwell more on some of the markers and writings that were on them
You have a very good eye. Looks like you may have had some training in landscape archaeology. Interesting channel. I too love walking the cemeteries by myself., esp. the early ones. I get a very peaceful and calming effect from it and the places are very pastoral for the most part.
Thank you, Carl!
those look like stones that have broken and care takers have thrown aside...I've seen this before..
Canning jars were used for flowers on graves before plastic
The Bricks look Burnt so possibly a fireplace You should have a Magnet for that stream
The jars would have been containers for fresh flowers,in those days your plastic flowers were not common.
The jars were probably from family's who water plants. My grandmother always had my brother and I fill all the jars at the cemeteries we went to. The buildings were to hold coffins in the winter month when the ground was frozen.
sad place for sure. You should try doing a EVP session in that place maybe theres spirits there.
I hate how utube messess with things and you and all the other smashing video makers do not deserve the notifications going missing and or subs. I had I to re-sub two of my other favorite channels recently. Anyway rant over. 😠😲🙈🙉🙊
Thank you so much for your smashing videos 😍
I wish they would do something to fix it! Thanks for watching!
The damage at the back may have been from a flood. Maybe that is why the stones are all bunched in the corner. And why the building is gone.
"Aphrodite was the Greek goddess of love and fertility her counterpart, the Roman goddess Venus. The myths say she was born from sea foam and then reached the shores of the earth in a sea shell. The shell was regarded by pagans as a source of life. Though the outside of a shell is hard and inanimate, the inside is soft and alive which can be an analogy for a human who passes away. The body’s dead shell is only a covering for the soul that is alive within."
Great video bro !! Always great description of history !!
A lot of people use mason jars as a vase at grave yards.
I thin it my flat geting cut up on your Videos good job
Thanks, George!
those are jars that people have put plants or flowers in
Ty soo much
The bricks could have been used to line graves and could have been pulled up if the river flooded
What was blocked out at 22:35?
the mason jar you found is from the late 1950s - 60s
KOOOOOOOOOOOOOL VIDEO
The shells are what are called muscle shells. Muscles make good fish bait
People would use the canning jars as vases
Hi Matt, there used to be a small building for the coffins to be stored when the soil is frozen to bury in spring. Now in my 61 year's their has been 5 crimes against women in cemeteries in the Usa. Anyway I enjoyed your video and with Memorial Day coming more people will be in cemeteries.
People would put cut flowers in mason jars and leave them on graves.
You walk by so quickly
Looks like a log cabin
Plants or flowers may have been put in those jars and placed on the graves.
I wish you would go a bit slower on the names and dates. It would be nice to see the names that are rarely used anymore.
Why is it that you hardly ever show the writing on the headstones so everyone can read them that's why a lot of us go to old boneyards !
They still have family plots on family land here were you can still be buried there today
People are jerks why would you ever have it in mind to go and break up grave stones! That graveyard is beautiful nice video thank you!
Good deal about videos, I do get notifications.
Glad you haven't gone
I’m ignorant of the correct terms but what’s the difference in a cemetery and a graveyard?
graveyard = next to a church
Are you living in Indiana. Are you from there?
What part of indiana do you live in
I didn't even get a notification bro.... Most of the time I do but sometimes I don't.
What is on your hand?