😮DEVASTATING & UNFORTUNATE PROBLEMS! 2023 NEWMAR SUPERSTAR 4059! BRAND NEW RV!
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- 🚨Devastating and unfortunate RV Inspection findings! Who would believe this 6-month-old 2023 Newmar Superstar 4059 with such low mileage, stored under cover, custom built and painted to this sellers' specifications, would have 3 slide-outs totally misaligned?
😠How could this Newmar Superstar 4059 be coming out of the production line of such a renowned manufacturer and slide through QC at the manufacturing plant?
👉From first glimpse and throughout the day, the structural engineering is left to doubt the state of quality control of this Newmar Superstar 4059 RV.
🛑The 6 months left of warranty might save this seller from avoiding a total loss on this normally beautiful coach and construction. The seller was astounded by our RV Inspection findings as we shared the obvious when he went back to his RV at the end of the day!
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Not sure how there has not been a gigantic class action lawsuit against almost every RV manufacturer that have made units in the last 10 years. These manufacturers need to be held accountable for this garbage.
That's the problem there are no regulations in this industry 😕
I often think the same thing....industry won't change till they take a hit to their pockets, bottom line.
Automakers can put out a near perfect car on a consistent basis, and they start at $25,.000!! RV's are junk now. Could you imagine the auto industry putting stuff like this out????
@@blueoxontherun9188 And that is a big problem, in my opinion. I am sick of hearing about soft-closing cabinets as if it is a big deal. In 2006, Ikea cabinets were soft closing so I don't want to hear about it as innovative and luxurious. Where are the air bags? Where is the crash testing? Where is the seamless fiberglass roofs? Tell me Pierre, we all see these huge warehouses and even RV dealer buildings made from precast concrete panels. They are attched to each other with what looks like a sealant/adhesive. Are the owners of these building resealing each panel every 5 years? I'll stop but could keep going.
@@rbmcobra Many of us remember the quality of autos in the 70's and prior. Nothing fit, and the sqeaks and rattles were unbelievable; you got rid of it between 25 and 30 thousand miles because is was a half way used up, and god forbid you get to 100 thousand, it would be worthless. What changed? Well, first Dr. Demming taught the Japanese how to build a better car based on the idea it costs less to do it correctly the first time than to fix it later, after American manufacturers would not pay him any attention, and second, the human element was removed from much of the manufacturing process. Robots, welding, stamping, painting, etc. Robots and other technology, such as cnc routers, produce consistent work with very low tolerances. How many robots are used for these types of tasks in RVs?
Watching these videos validates why we've never purchased an RV. A good friend of mine ran one of the largest dealers in Vegas as the General Manager. He told me and I quote: "We in the industry call RV "ruined vacations". I'm not kidding. I asked him if he watched the Robin Williams movie "RV". He said "absolutely. What most people don't know is there's more truth to that movie than people realize".
This is good 👍 👏 I'm happy someone had the courage to state the truth about what we hear personally at different dealerships. "They should get over themselves, it's a freakin RV"
Warranty, by manufacturers standards, consist of 1 year with 2 to 3 weeks of usage
Until people get smart & hire folks like you &/or use a common sense eyeball themselves BEFORE they buy, this will NEVER END. Get with it folks. We have to start holding these manufactures' feet to the fire.
We're doing our little part by exposing them. But your right, people need to stand up to them by all means possible because they won't care unless it hits their bottom dollar
you would think this kind of money there would not be issues like this. It is nothing but human factor and taking pride in your work, doing it correctly the first time. It's a shame. And yes, Newmar should be embarrassed.
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your team is great.
Winnebago could care less about quality fit and finish . They are only interested in $$ that Newmar can generate . Pitiful . I wish they would show this video to the line workers and the board of directors .
Wake up call would be good 😮🤙
Winnebago is better than average. We had an older Tiffin Allegro Bus 🎉and I can say that there were some design defects but it was built like a tank. We had some issues with parts wearing out and slides needing adjustment. The roof leaked at the rear cap. But, in general it was nice quality. I do wish I knew about inspections.
These issues existed way before Winnebago came into the picture.
I love the work y'all do. I'm gonna keep y'all in mind when we get ready to purchase our RV, Keep up the great work
Thanks for chiming in 😉
Reach out anytime...
www.blueoxrvinspection.com
Once again pretty sure the glitz and glamor of buying a new rig would blind the buyers from seeing any of these flauts or problems till, ??? then it becomes a problem. Another excellent video on the reason for a quality inspection team BEFORE you pay....
You got that right ✅️
Have an inspection before you buy! Watched another guy's vid where, immediately after he bought a new Winnebago, he discovered problems w/the unit. The rig spent two months,at a dealership and most of the problems (to include the slide) weren't resolved.
Have an inspection right ??
www.blueoxrvinspection.com
Wow!
You seem to have a terrific gift for uncovering the obvious.
You seem to have nothing else better to do than insulting people....we didn't ask you to watch...
I just love watching you guys you make serious funny but you get the point across. Inspections are a necessary evil. Thanks for another great video and seeing Newmar just like all the rest means no one is infallible.
Neither are we, you're right!
We just try to find a culprit and do the best as we possibly can.
another fantastic video
Thanks 😁 🤙
🇬🇧 Here in the UK, we dont get a whole lot of choice, in 5th wheels from 🇺🇸, but having started watching you guys, l think l can surprise them, and maybe test them at their own game.
I'll be buying next year, and will be staying with you both for the journey between now and then.
( Laurel, your platt at the start of the day, was sensational). 😉
She has some French in her 😉🤣
You know where to reach us when your ready 🤙
great job guys👍
Thank you sir 🙏 ☺️
I enjoy all of your videos, as a Home inspector for 30 years, I've been known as a deal killer. I work for the client, not the seller I have always advise having a home inspection before buying. It doesn't mater if it's new or not, the money you spend is worth every penny weather you buy or not. In the past few years home buyers a not having inspections to buy the home. They are having the same type issues you find during the RV inspections. Once you buy it it's your issues. Always have an inspection for a piece of mind
Thanks for chiming in.🤙 Thank you for your services 🙏 Trying to help one RVer at the time is the name of the game isn't it?
It seems some people like to gamble without a budget 🤣🤣.
We discovered you guys yesterday. My wife and I have been watching your videos. THANK YOU!
In 2016 we started looking at RVs. We looked at everything. We ended up being too scared to buy one. We ended up buying a Built for Us 2019 Fiberglass Casita. A simple, easy-to-fix Camper.
We started looking at Class A's. all the way down to campers. We were terrified of what we found for quality. We had to readjust what we wanted to buy.
I discovered the RV inspector's website and would always paste the information on the forums when people ask about buying a new RV.
Thank you!! We appreciate you!
Good one, Newmar has faded.
Funny bloopers too
I did my own RV inspection on my 2020 Winnebago Horizon 42q. Built in July 2019
42 items, all fixed in Sept 2020 at Forest City. On a 5 day warranty trip.
They did a great job!
Yes....sad to say😮
You shouldn't have to lose 5 days out of your life tho...that's what gets me going 🤬 people have better things to do don't they ??
@@blueoxontherun9188
I agree, but they fixed it all back in Sept 2020 and it’s been great since.
But you lost enjoyment, time off your life, gas and all your direct and indirect expenses out of pocket you shouldn't have to endure....an inspection is wicked cheap don't you think?
@@blueoxontherun9188
I agree, an inspection is cheap compared to the cost of buying a disaster RV.
But, I found all the issues. I wouldn’t let a dealer touch it.
great video
Thanks for chiming in 😁 ❤️
Look! Gonna be blunt & to the point.... i sure love you 2. Y'all make me smile. Love your channel.
Tons of love from
PASADENA, TX...home of URBAN COWBOY!!!!! ❤
Thanks for chiming in Mary 😁
Hey, guys, really enjoy your insight and diligence. Now, a question (or two): When do you discuss the independent inspection you're planning with the dealer? Should that be noted on the Sales Contract (with signatures)? What else should be note in the Sales Contract/Agreement re: the inspection? Should the inspectors recommendation as to a repair the dealer can do and what should go back to the mfgr for repair? etc. As you can tell, I'm a "newbie". Thanks so much.
Y'all Be Safe!
We work for you period...you do not ASK if it's OK to have your team of inspector come in? You TELL them my team will come to inspect on a mutual agreed day. If they don't allow inspectors...Run Forrest, Run...red flag right there.
Then, after their report is sent to their service department, you wil be advise when work is completed, and only then you will finalize your paperwork with them.
Do NEVER get entangled by the famous salesperson line...." don't worry, that will all be taking care of when you come back " 🥴🧐😲
Newmar was known for outstanding quality, particularly their slides with the flush fit. Your inspection speaks to their current state of affairs under Winnebago. Personally, unless I was given the deal of the century and lived next to the repair center, I would walk on this deal. Those slides will not be a quick fix requiring a minor adjustment, and electrical gremlins frighten me as tracking down wiring issues can be very time consuming. Hope you found some good Cajun food!
We did have great food for sure....
Concerning Newmar...I think you might be right on the rabbit hole ...not what we used to expect 😟
@@blueoxontherun9188 Authentic Cajun food is the best! Glad you enjoyed!
I have a 2017, and the slide problems are not new. I have issues with all my slides other than the simple bed slide. Winnebago had nothing to do with it. In one of Andrew Steel's interviews at Newell, they discussed slides. Newell thinks a slide should do one thing; slide in and out. Not in/out and up and down. to achieve a flat floor, the main floor goes up and down to be at the same height as the slide achieving a flat floor. Thus, the slides and floor each only move in one direction. While I am on slides, have you ever seen a Newell or a Prevost with a full wall slide?
the two little girls where the cutest. Please keep up the great work.
Thanks 😊 for your support
Sounds like your clients bought first, then had their inspection. Good to know they have warranty time left.
They sent us there to inspect before buying the unit actually.
Yeah, we own a Tiffin since they sold to Thor they are just slapped together and you get what you get. Almost hate to say it but the best RV we ever owned was a Safari Trek with the slides. Fun little coach huge bathroom and the bed went up into the ceiling giving you all that space.
I love those...having money, that would be my inspection rig 🙂
They better make sure that warranty is transferable! Most aren't. The current owner really needs to take it up there himself if it isnt
learn so much from u guys. keep up the good work!!
Thanks for reaching out!
Nice job pointing this stuff out. (C4BO)
Trying to awake the population of the state of the RV industry
We're in the process of buying a fiver, and you bet I got it inspected! Two of the slides need adjustments, but nothing like in this Newmar. Thankfully, I'm just north of Elkhart and my tech can do the adjustments in his shop. Would have been something that I missed in our multiple trips to see the RV. Inspector even pressure tested all 4 tanks, the water system, he did a full run through.
Absolutely agree that getting an inspection pre-purchase is a HUGE deal.. if nothing else gets some peace of mind from someone who's not emotionally involved with your purchase, and at best, find the smaller stuff that can be easily overlooked before it becomes big stuff!
You said it all!! You chose a good inspector and now you have peace of mind to head out on your journey.😊
Wow... I was going to go from my 2013 Tiffin to a newer"ish" Newmar DP as a step up. However, after your last few Newmar videos I'm second guessing a move up. I think it is safer to keep the problems I have than trade them for new ones. The very sad part about all these bad rigs you inspect is that someone will buy them and not know until it's too late. That rig should go back to Newmar BEFORE it is sold - NOT after! Keep up the great work informing the masses.
I think that's actually what is happening...but your right, if you don't need a change, stick to the one you know the quirks and enjoy. It will still bring you to the same places 😁
Newmar's slogan is "when you know the difference". I know the difference, and if this is the best there is, my grandfather had a saying, you can mix raisins with turds, but you still have turds.
Love it 🤣🤣
Oh my gosh I love you guys. Oh by the way, NIRVC took my nurse duck you left me when they did the PDI 😢 see y’all in Hershey!
Wow, they actually earned it 👏 They must have feared you girl 🤣🤙
This is crazy to find these issues with this cheap coach!!!! It‘s only 3 quarters of a million dollar, what should you expect? For me spending this kind of money, you shouldn’t find any issues but glad you all always inspect every coach and are not bias based on the brand or how much they are. Keep the videos coming!!! C4BO
You're right, we address the unit at hand like it is a different box each time without consideration for the brand or manufacturer.
If I had to get a new RV, it would be one built from 2004-2009. Those were good years, quality wise.
I'll have to agree 🙂
This left me speechless. Didn't the previous owner notice issues with the slides, seals, and leaking shower?
They didn't have time to...the owner was stunned of our findings and I can see he didn't have a clue.
Hi. This is too many problems on an almost new rig. And the electrical problems and wires hanging out loose... Hum... I think it may be hiding some more major problems. Doesn't look good!
Keep up your good work!
Thanks for your encouragements . We appreciate you 🙏
We have a 2022 Newmar Superstar 4059 and don't have any of the issues you highlighted in the video. We had it 3rd party inspected before taking delivery 18 months ago and we were told our coach had the fewest number of "Flag" items of any new coach that he had inspected. Also suggest you check the price you are stating that is coach costs. It's a $500k MSRP and sells for around $400k new.
You are the lucky one. As you know, every RV built is like a piece of art. They are individually built. Line up 10, same make and model, they will all have different issues. You certainly are the lucky one.😊
Your employer sure got their moneys worth when they hired you two. Thanks Don
Thank you, Don!! We appreciate you, reminding people of this! We have the highest respect for our employers!😊
This is so disappointing that this unit is deemed "ready to go". The Superstar is (err...was) one of my favorites. I guess Newmar isn't concerned much with reputation in this market. Only 6 months left on the warranty? From what I've been seeing in the forums and such it will be difficult to get an appointment within that time...
Owner already have an appointment scheduled to make sure his one year warranty items were going to be covered. Smart man!
I am on my way to Newmar for an appointment on 12/4. I made the appointment in FEBRUARY 2023!
My wealthy friends bought a new Newmar from Ft Myers and within one month it was falling apart, they returned it and it sat in service for a year before they got legal counsel and were able to force the dealer to buy back the coach. They bought what they thought was the best and got a real POS...inagine the coaches that arent "the best" they must be collosal failures of pseudo engineering lol great video guys!
Thank you for the comments ☺️
They are definitely doubtful construction ti say the least 🙄 thus why everyone needs an inspection
Newmar 'when you know the difference'.
So sad that Newmar has sunk to this level.
Great video! Have you two ever inspected a brand new Renegade XL or Ikon before? Wondering what your thoughts are on their quality control?
REV group units are typically more consistent in general.
And yes we did Renegades...no Ikon tho !
A bomb that exploded! 🤣 Amazing, $750K and it has the same if not worse issues as much cheaper coaches have.
Exactly...come on, wake up here. People are getting raked legally and there is no accountability from many manufacturers.
Have you ever inspected a Newell? They are made nearby and I have done some telecom work in the factory, but didn't have time to look at the coaches.
For me, a box is a box 🤔
Different systems that varies like the central air or all electric. But overall it's made by human.
Newell is special and they probably wouldn't appreciate having us looking over their built and adding insult to injury...imagine if we found something...ouch !
What a gap in the slide out.
Scary 😨
This is an absolute DISGRACE !!!!!! Consumers should be sick and tired of these RV Manufacturers taken advantage of us. They need to be held accountable for this sub-standard quality. How could this unit pass QA and leave the factory? The answer ......... there is no QA.
Exactly my thought process as well 😅 look at our findings!
750 K for this? No way no how. Still under 6 months of warranty? No way it will take that long to get a small part of the fixed so they can run the warranty out. I've seen that done more than once. PDI my butt you guys are the first to do one.
Things will only change if enough people get a true PDI done. Better yet the lenders demand one before lending the money to buy it.
You are so right about hiring two inspectors at one time when they hire you guys and you play to each other's strength and makes for a better inspection.
Mr P don't apologize for being anal! A good inspector should be very anal as they are going give the best inspection. Just my opinion for what it's worth.
You guys are the best and I love to see each one you make. You are making a difference! Keep up the good work. Yes I like the bloopers and kids at the end giving your saying about its a journey. It gives me a laugh as the kids do it.
Many thanks and good tidyings to you both.
We appreciate you Mr Mark 🙏 we are doing are best to save one RVer at the time and learning every day 😀
We are having problem with 2015 tiffin we just bought we found the tiles are breaking to me it seems like it’s not supported properly and it’s sinking which is making the slides not sitting right. Is this possible
Ouch...have it corrected asap please 🙏
What’s with the lunch time thing ?
I’m horrified by the shoddy workmanship of Newmar and have decided that I would not consider buying a new one. I’m hearing the same thing from other manufacturers who appear to have lost their ability to build quality RVS. I’d rather buy an older used model when they took more pride in the vehicles & problems have been sorted.
I just want to add that I would never ever consider buying any RV without having a full independent inspection both prior and after any repairs.
Coming from Europe you have legal support if your a manufacturer or the company would have it’s license revoked. It’s a death trap if it’s not possible to manufacture it to its full working capabilities and the fines can be massive.
Made in America used to stand for quality but those days are over. How sad 😞 when greed is more important than the product 🇺🇸
Totally agree with you on every point. Proudness and greatness is no longer part of this country's ability and direction....it's all about greed! Sad!
Minor…but a pain to wait for Newmarket to address and fix. 3/4Mil I would expect better factory qc.
You'd think so 🤔!
When Winnebago got their sticky little hands on Newmar it was game over for Newmar. Winnebago is to blame. RV inspections are the smartest thing you can do.
Thanks for chiming in 🤙
I’m in the market for a small new or used trailer. You two have scared me to the point that I have purchased a high end FLIR camera and no contact moisture meter which I will use on every trailer I look at. Keep up the great work on exposing the shortfalls of the RV industry. I’m sure they will make an attempt to get you banned from posting your inspection videos.
As you know, we just report the facts. Not there to bash any manufacturer, we just state the facts that we see. Glad to see your protecting yourself by attempting to find issues😊
@@blueoxontherun9188 No doubt that if I was in the market for one of the high dollar rigs you feature in your videos I would have your number on speed dial.
3 minutes into this video and this beautiful coach is a noooooo way/no go. Sorry, but I’m not dropping all the 💰and then heading to Indiana to get bent slides somehow unbent. Your right, the dealer is not going to be able to handle that. Sad 😕
Glad you saw the same thing we did!!
We did not get a RV yet I have been looking for a long time
With all the videos I watch I am wondering if it a good idea to get one or just give up
My dad had a truck camper and a class C in the 70’s and had no problems like today 🤔
Those were the days...you are totally right
At that price there should be a maid and butler plus no cheap looking slides or ugly underneath....that company should revamp their construction and prices....jmo
IMHO as well 🤣 ...I'll take a Bloody Caesar please 🤣🤣
I am having a hard time finding a motor home that exactly fits what I want. We have been looking for about 6 months. Anyone have any suggestions on how to get exactly what I want besides ordering a custom one. I don’t have that kind of money.
Floorplan is key, check all the boxes of what you absolutely want. There isn't 1 motorhome that has everything, but don't settle. You will find it or at least 98% of what you want!
Just curious if you have seen more quality problems with Newmars made after 2019 when Winnebago bought them?
Sadly, we do.
Quality control today is job none!
Ohhhh....love that 😁😊😁🤣
Unbelievable
Something isn't it?
That is really disappointing being a Newmar. You would think it would be solid for the prices!
You'd think so 🤔???
Disappointed with Newmar. Very sad to see their quality go down.
Really scary sad lately...hmmm
I think you need to teach these builders how to build quality. So much crap craftsmanship.
Our mission is to save one RVer at the time....IMHO it's about the best we can do.
At least here, we make people aware of what's out there and let them make their own educated decision.
8000KW would be 8Mega watts
🤣 ur right, I exaggerated a lil 🤣
C4BO🎉
Newmar warranty is for original owners only.
That would be ridiculous 🙄
It may be rediculous but true. As the second owner of a Newmar with problems I can tell you that is true as is confirmed on their website as non-transferable. @@blueoxontherun9188
Wow....that tells a lot of the lack of integrity of a manufacturer 🙄🙄 and the confidence of their "build". 🤣 hope everyone that reads this, takes this in consideration when making an offer 😯😳🤨
C4BO!!
Thanks for chiming in!
They are slide out's. Please explain the physics that a slide will not move, settle, and become a problem. Especially when you have a whole kitchen, or additional weight. This is not rocket science folks. Side outs will always be issues with sag, water intrusions and glides.
Made in the US
Yeah right ??
Hey, Pierre , can I get the names of your friends in California ? My wife and I are looking for a Class A , pretty please 😬
Reach out through our site. We'll help you 🙂
www.bueoxrvinspection.com
C4BO
Holey crap I'm the first one
What’s your thoughts on Airstream?
Awesome units...you get your monies worth definitely 👌 you just need to learn the chant and the secret handshake to get in the circle 🤣🤣 I'm just kidding 😂 it's a running joke with some of our customers 😉
If I decide on one I would have you go over it before I would buy it, that goes for new or used!
Your channel and others show the need for an inspection and now I’m a believer.
It didn't take Winnebago long to trash Newmar after buying the manufacturer so it can eliminate the competition in such an evil way. Newmar will probably cease operation soon and Winnebago will deny it was an intentional consolidation of the RV industry.
It's unfortunate that Newmar committed suicide voluntarily.
Watch what happens to Tiffin as well. Since Thor bought them, quality has gone down and consumer dissatisfaction has gone up as Thor does the same thing to Tiffins as Winnebago is doing to Newmar.
I'm afraid of your statements 😕 yet, you might have some of it right
I have different thoughts, I predict Winnebago will stop building DP's, leaving that market to Newmar, and Newmar will stop building gas coaches.
Newmar????? Newmar is quality, which makes me wonder what the seller has done?
I really think he was oblivious to the state of his unit 🙂
Cfbox
Thanks Teri 😊
Wow, disappointing.
Seems that since they were bought out ...the quality & details are way way down 😮
You might have an answer right there....restructuring a company doesn't always go in favor of the customers does it ?🤣
I'm afraid & sad to say & slays me that they want to charge 1.5 million plus for a 2024 king air..a production coach not a Newell or Liberty,Marathon which are all custom hand made coaches
I have problems justifying that as well 🤥🧐
@blueoxontherun9188 understand especially when the average person you ,your husband & 1 know wouldn't spend that much on a house,lot on
wheels..good night and God bless you both
BTW Steve...this is Pierre 🤣 probably 90% of the time I answer on these comments 😅 🤣 just saying 😉
Sloppy……but that’s just me.
these major manufactures make videos of how they do final inspections, how do these units get to the customers in these conditions?
They make videos at what sequence? 2 out of 100? There's no consistency on their builds...sad 🙂
This is massively disappointing!
It's aggravating and seems to become consistent 🙄
C4bo
C4bo yo
Thanks Greg 😊
This is the results of baby boomers retiring....poor management and training practices,people don't plan on doing a poor job...constant process improvement.
Right on! 🙂
I csn't believe how poorly made this is.
It is disheartening the state of this industry and knowingly the top people do not care...let little people buy RV's 🙄
@@blueoxontherun9188 Love your vids. I learn from them thanks.
People are idiots so who cares, they paid 750k for a 200k build and a poor one at that, throw your money off a bridge at least someone can enjoy it,
Right ?
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