We are looking for our first right now. We see vans we like and they are sticking, we've made offers of 10% lower but the owners are not reducing, they just sit for months. I think it'll take a big dealer to go "pop" to get some realism into the market where there are far more motorhomes than buyers right now. Well probably sit it out until winter, watching, along with many others....
I’d be sweating if I had all that stock on what is probably a revolving finance credit loan. The interest must be phenomenal and monthly payments will be eye watering. At a conservative £60k average there’s conservatively £10 m there. I looked at motor homes or converted vans but at £70k + for a decent one, I spent half that on a really nice car and the balance will pay for hotels for many years to come.
Just catching up Rick and Heather. Fascinating to look around - we went around a year ago. Great that Brownhills do the shop discount and the free bacon sandwich! Seems that new vans and motorhomes have exploded (supply improved) but second hand vans (not motorhomes) still like hen’s teeth. Seems like we bought at the price peak 🤦🏻♂️ but we wanted to get out on the road so badly. Crazy, crazy amount of new vans there! Prices may well have to reduce substantially!
Wouldn't be at all surprised that most of them van were ordered at least two years ago when everything was flying out the door. Unfortunately, people are back to flying away on their holidays and selling their used vans, and people not buying new. More dealers will fold
There’s more vans than pre-pandemic times and its great to see the prices coming down, all be it looks like Brownhills hadn’t heard given the stock levels 😂 (good olde supply and demand) great if you’re looking to buy, clearly not good if you’re looking to sell. Great they are giving food and discount! Cant complain about that! Least the CVs are down to 60’s and not 80s now! Loads about now, remember when they were like Rocking horse 💩 New / Used vans coming down in price too. Can’t believe how many vans they have … not good news for 6-12m time though if they don’t shift it. Have a great weekend, all the best, David & Rachel 👍
Wow that’s a lot of stock! Not seen anything like that for years. Surely they’ve got a serious problem on their hands shifting all of that. Great video, enjoyed the tour around
I had a coachbuilt CI 5 berth motorhome 20 years ago. Paid £12500 for when it was 6 years old. That is what made these viable to the average person. The attraction then was a cost effective adventure. Majority of the 3 years I owned mine was spent on my drive or in a muddy field in summer. Trouble is now... They want hotel rates to park in a muddy field for the night. Except for a few die hards this industry is surely dead in the water. I mean 60k...for a basic camper.. its just a van.
Interesting video , I watched a dealers Video taking about the market changes and the large existence of unsold stock, even more so with caravans to the point that this dealer had decided not to order any new vans for 2025 preferring to sell the unsold stock first . What this space I think . Thanks for an interesting video H and M
Bubble has burst 😮, just look at how many dealer's are struggling, Broadlane leisure was the latest to go bust only this week, such a shame as they were great to deal with 😢
Hi Rick and heather a great video as ever and comes to something now the stock is there dealers seem to be having a hard time of it broad lane has gone bust now I wonder if this will cause the prices to go down could be after effects of Covid and supply problems and the artificial demand created as you say hope you are both well Daniel
There’s a lot of unsold stock on dealers forecourts at the minute. Across the country confidence in the economy is at an all time low, inflation is spiralling upwards seemingly unchecked and interest rates are still high. The Conservative government has us paying the highest tax rates ever and labour are staggering into government like a new born giraffe. Prices of motorhomes have rocketed in recent years with £60k buying a budget entry level Van if your lucky, used prices too are bonkers since the pandemic. Mid lockdown in 2020, I sold a 2011 van for the same money I bought it for new. I couldn’t believe my luck as I moved quickly to bolster my stock & shares portfolio which is stashed for the future. If and when prices ease a little I might consider another van, however until sense prevails I’ll keep my pennies invested. Good luck to all buyers!
Great video, maybe Elddis need to hone down on Evolution CV's quantity so much, and focus more on basic quality first. Fit and finish when you own one leaves a bitter taste, workmanship and quality control just not good enough.
Maybe they have taken a load of the stock from Broadlane who have just gone bust . Administrators for Broadlane stated the excess stock was their downfall .
Perhaps pre-ordered stock has now come through. Fiat’s new base vehicle is also available now so maybe buyers are waiting for that. Or, perhaps you are correct and the bottom has fallen out of the market, but can I have first refusal on your Apollo when you change to an ‘A’ class (if I live that long)!🤣
@@RickandHeather for an extra £40 you can stay in a B&B which includes a full English breakfast. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would want to sleep in a vehicle. The annual cost alone is considerable compared to running a car. Fuel costs, annual habitation checks, MOT, annual service, vehicle Insurance, internet, storage fees and £30 plus a day camp site fees.
@@stevenhull5025 we can’t understand why people have kids,or watch football, or have a 50k car to go to work and the shops…. We’re all different, the van is our hobby, our passion and we love it.
@@RickandHeather we have a 30 year old rust bucket we bought for 5,000 pounds 9 years ago. I have an offer on the table as a restoration project. Will be looking for another motorhome at some point but it will have to come in at alot less than these bad boys xx
Listening to a guy on RUclips yesterday. He was saying. to become a dealer. You have to commit to buying so many per yr. Which probably what's happened to Brownhills He was saying some dealers are knocking £6000 off. I would estimate everyone who's bought one over say last 2yrd.. Are goi g to lose out considerably when next wanting to change
motorhomes are stupid prices now, a lot of van lifers and leisure campers are now buying 2nd hand panel vans and converting themselves for literally 2 thirds of the price,in the next 10 years there isn't going to be any well off pensioners either ,most will be retiring later with much smaller pension pots,if you buy one of those expensive ones be prepared to lose a lot of money.
Has the number of retiring none vat registered builders reduced or has the need to sleep whilst carrying plasterboard gone down in vans 😂😂😂 Just our satirical observation Rick ❤
YES , finally THE BUBBLE HAS BURST , said it all along , its a van , OVERPRICED ridiculous prices for a VAN . Believe it or not , there's things called HOTELS , cheaper & hot & cold running water . Probably worth HALF what greedy dealers charge . Save your money people . They will drop in price .
Often thought that, are we all being penny wise and pound foolish buying expensive liesure vehicles for our vacations instead of hotels ? Camp sites are cheaper per night but if you add in £70k for a van, then the camp site isn't the bargain you think it is compared to a hotel. I do both, holidays via jets abroad in the winter, out of season log cabins in Scotland and a caravan, campervan combi at peak times to make each holiday get away, as cheap and good as my money will buy. Either way, it ain't cheap !
Rick. Have you heard that Broadlane leisure have gone bust. As you've mentioned Brownhills have got an enormous stock of vans. Dealers are giving big discounts as market has dropped enormously Hope Brownhills don't go the same way
About time sensible prices prevail!!!
Have to agree though certainly campsites need to start charging less
We are looking for our first right now. We see vans we like and they are sticking, we've made offers of 10% lower but the owners are not reducing, they just sit for months. I think it'll take a big dealer to go "pop" to get some realism into the market where there are far more motorhomes than buyers right now. Well probably sit it out until winter, watching, along with many others....
I hope you find the van you like and get a fair price 🤞
Nice tour. So many vans. Prices must come down soon surely.
Hopefully with everything including sites and day to day stuff too!
Dealers are as you would expect talking the market up but there is so much new and used stock about I just don't believe them. Cheers K.
Yeah I do think people who came from Blackpool and Benidorm are probably going back…. Hopefully 🤣
Great vid - was up there myself about a month ago and astonished at the number of vans lined up!
Crazy amount of stock!
I’d be sweating if I had all that stock on what is probably a revolving finance credit loan. The interest must be phenomenal and monthly payments will be eye watering. At a conservative £60k average there’s conservatively £10 m there. I looked at motor homes or converted vans but at £70k + for a decent one, I spent half that on a really nice car and the balance will pay for hotels for many years to come.
Certainly scary figures parked up…. I’d be twitching too.
Just catching up Rick and Heather.
Fascinating to look around - we went around a year ago. Great that Brownhills do the shop discount and the free bacon sandwich!
Seems that new vans and motorhomes have exploded (supply improved) but second hand vans (not motorhomes) still like hen’s teeth.
Seems like we bought at the price peak 🤦🏻♂️ but we wanted to get out on the road so badly.
Crazy, crazy amount of new vans there!
Prices may well have to reduce substantially!
You’d hope prices generally will drop, life is expensive right now!
I am sitting on my hands waiting for prices to come down from their ridiculous levels
@@stevenhull5025 try a b&b…..
Wouldn't be at all surprised that most of them van were ordered at least two years ago when everything was flying out the door. Unfortunately, people are back to flying away on their holidays and selling their used vans, and people not buying new. More dealers will fold
I agree it’s going to sort out the people with poor credit or bank balance 😳
I enjoyed the tour around. 😊👍👏
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Hi both. WOW! There are a lot of vans there xx❤️❤️❤️
Certainly is! ❤️
There’s more vans than pre-pandemic times and its great to see the prices coming down, all be it looks like Brownhills hadn’t heard given the stock levels 😂 (good olde supply and demand) great if you’re looking to buy, clearly not good if you’re looking to sell. Great they are giving food and discount! Cant complain about that!
Least the CVs are down to 60’s and not 80s now! Loads about now, remember when they were like Rocking horse 💩
New / Used vans coming down in price too. Can’t believe how many vans they have … not good news for 6-12m time though if they don’t shift it.
Have a great weekend, all the best, David & Rachel 👍
Crazy amount of vans but prices of everything is still way too high!
Wow that’s a lot of stock! Not seen anything like that for years. Surely they’ve got a serious problem on their hands shifting all of that. Great video, enjoyed the tour around
Yeah you’d imagine they need a serious bank balance to hold that amount of stock
I had a coachbuilt CI 5 berth motorhome 20 years ago. Paid £12500 for when it was 6 years old. That is what made these viable to the average person. The attraction then was a cost effective adventure. Majority of the 3 years I owned mine was spent on my drive or in a muddy field in summer. Trouble is now... They want hotel rates to park in a muddy field for the night.
Except for a few die hards this industry is surely dead in the water.
I mean 60k...for a basic camper.. its just a van.
Yep it’s an expensive game these days! My 1st van had gas lights and no hot water!
Interesting video , I watched a dealers Video taking about the market changes and the large existence of unsold stock, even more so with caravans to the point that this dealer had decided not to order any new vans for 2025 preferring to sell the unsold stock first . What this space I think . Thanks for an interesting video H and M
50% price increase in 4 years is WILD
Absolutely yes!
Some dealers have milked customers in recent times.
@user-vv9bq4ed3q business is business…
@@g-sailing4427 exactly the rip off wont last forever.
Wow, all those CVs. Like you, I remember the time when you couldn't get hold of them!. We went from a CV40 to the Swift which we have now. 👍
Yeah only 12 months ago there was nothing about for sale!
I just hope for Brownhills sake that they can shift they can shift them
Hopefully so!
great video i am tempted to have a go now im retired
It’s a marmite hobby but we love it!
Bubble has burst 😮, just look at how many dealer's are struggling, Broadlane leisure was the latest to go bust only this week, such a shame as they were great to deal with 😢
Yes I’m inclined to agree, vans for leisure went to I’m told
I'm with Heather - you have to be particular with what you want in a van.
Very true and a good point 👍
How many EVO;s !!!!! Nice to see dealers getting stock in again 🙂
Yeah but can they sell it?
Hi Rick and heather a great video as ever and comes to something now the stock is there dealers seem to be having a hard time of it broad lane has gone bust now I wonder if this will cause the prices to go down could be after effects of Covid and supply problems and the artificial demand created as you say hope you are both well Daniel
I hope prices start to drop as well as campsites too! But it certainly looks like this could happen with vans, the stock level is huge!
There’s a lot of unsold stock on dealers forecourts at the minute. Across the country confidence in the economy is at an all time low, inflation is spiralling upwards seemingly unchecked and interest rates are still high. The Conservative government has us paying the highest tax rates ever and labour are staggering into government like a new born giraffe. Prices of motorhomes have rocketed in recent years with £60k buying a budget entry level Van if your lucky, used prices too are bonkers since the pandemic. Mid lockdown in 2020, I sold a 2011 van for the same money I bought it for new. I couldn’t believe my luck as I moved quickly to bolster my stock & shares portfolio which is stashed for the future. If and when prices ease a little I might consider another van, however until sense prevails I’ll keep my pennies invested. Good luck to all buyers!
Yep prices are still mad! Glad you’re doing well with it though!
Great video, maybe Elddis need to hone down on Evolution CV's quantity so much, and focus more on basic quality first. Fit and finish when you own one leaves a bitter taste, workmanship and quality control just not good enough.
Yeah we had a few issues early on…
Maybe they have taken a load of the stock from Broadlane who have just gone bust . Administrators for Broadlane stated the excess stock was their downfall .
This was filmed weeks before then
Wonder if Brownhills have bought these or Elddis need to shift stock from their factory compound.
They’re Brownhills Evolution so I’d guess they own them?
How can a company stand that amount of stock with out going under
No idea!
They are my dream to have one of these vehicles but who can truthfully afford them 70 grand wow thats a lot of money
It is a lot!
Read reviews on the dealers before parting with our money!
We had no issues with Brownhills but I know some people have 👍
The great dealer rip-off has come to an end.
It’s highly likely although supply of base vehicles is still high…
Perhaps pre-ordered stock has now come through. Fiat’s new base vehicle is also available now so maybe buyers are waiting for that. Or, perhaps you are correct and the bottom has fallen out of the market, but can I have first refusal on your Apollo when you change to an ‘A’ class (if I live that long)!🤣
We’re expecting to keep Athena for at least 4 years or so… let’s hope the market starts levelling up a bit and getting back to what we’d call normal 🙏
How much is it to pitch a 40K plus motorhome on a decent site with hook up internet etc nowadays?
£30/40 a night is not uncommon 😳
@@RickandHeather for an extra £40 you can stay in a B&B which includes a full English breakfast. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would want to sleep in a vehicle. The annual cost alone is considerable compared to running a car. Fuel costs, annual habitation checks, MOT, annual service, vehicle Insurance, internet, storage fees and £30 plus a day camp site fees.
@@stevenhull5025 we can’t understand why people have kids,or watch football, or have a 50k car to go to work and the shops…. We’re all different, the van is our hobby, our passion and we love it.
No Brownhills all too new and expensive for our wallets xxx
Some staggering prices about!
@@RickandHeather we have a 30 year old rust bucket we bought for 5,000 pounds 9 years ago. I have an offer on the table as a restoration project. Will be looking for another motorhome at some point but it will have to come in at alot less than these bad boys xx
Good luck 🤞
Listening to a guy on RUclips yesterday. He was saying. to become a dealer. You have to commit to buying so many per yr. Which probably what's happened to Brownhills
He was saying some dealers are knocking £6000 off.
I would estimate everyone who's bought one over say last 2yrd.. Are goi g to lose out considerably when next wanting to change
Highly likely! We’re happy with ours though 👍
motorhomes are stupid prices now, a lot of van lifers and leisure campers are now buying 2nd hand panel vans and converting themselves for literally 2 thirds of the price,in the next 10 years there isn't going to be any well off pensioners either ,most will be retiring later with much smaller pension pots,if you buy one of those expensive ones be prepared to lose a lot of money.
Fair comment can’t argue!
WOW, There must be £ millions £ just sitting there.!!
I’d guess easily yes!
Has the number of retiring none vat registered builders reduced or has the need to sleep whilst carrying plasterboard gone down in vans 😂😂😂 Just our satirical observation Rick ❤
I think people have moved on to more upper class wobble boxes Al! Hope you’re both well!
Crazy stupid prices too.
Definitely yes!
Thank god we ain’t having a cv , common as muck 😂
Ever since that famous RUclips couple sold theirs nobody wants one 🤣
@@RickandHeather 🙄😂
YES , finally THE BUBBLE HAS BURST , said it all along , its a van , OVERPRICED ridiculous prices for a VAN . Believe it or not , there's things called HOTELS , cheaper & hot & cold running water . Probably worth HALF what greedy dealers charge . Save your money people . They will drop in price .
So I’ll put you down as “on the fence”?
Often thought that, are we all being penny wise and pound foolish buying expensive liesure vehicles for our vacations instead of hotels ? Camp sites are cheaper per night but if you add in £70k for a van, then the camp site isn't the bargain you think it is compared to a hotel. I do both, holidays via jets abroad in the winter, out of season log cabins in Scotland and a caravan, campervan combi at peak times to make each holiday get away, as cheap and good as my money will buy. Either way, it ain't cheap !
@stevezodiac491 we do it because we like it and that’s it!
And next overpriced camp site prices will come down.
We hope so!
Crikey to think we had to wait just over 2 years for our CV20 from Brownhills 😱
Yep looks like supply is back to pre pandemic level 👍
There is a lot of stock because they are a complete rip off and people want value for money now!
I saw on their website they were offering £6k off CV’s
Delph bank touring 5 star park
I don’t understand the context of the comment?
@RickandHeather would highly recommend Delph bank touring 5 star park for motorhome owners.
@@StewartGerard-i1m gotcha! thanks
How much 🥹
One hundred million dollars 🤣
Rick. Have you heard that Broadlane leisure have gone bust.
As you've mentioned Brownhills have got an enormous stock of vans.
Dealers are giving big discounts as market has dropped enormously
Hope Brownhills don't go the same way
I hadn’t but I knew vans for leisure had, it’s not sustainable at these prices
great if u like camping in a shoebox
You had a shoebox? (Monty Python reference)