Phil Driscoll played that on his first record back in about '76. I think you can find it at RUclips someplace. Gorgeous hymn! Thanks, as always, for commenting!!
Very nice flugel, and a superb value. With brass instruments, we almost always get what we pay for; buy cheap, and one gets a cheap instument. This Thomann was a great value. And I've found one similar since, Dillon's flugel. If one lives in the US, this may be the way to go... ruclips.net/video/yCyCf9L-WFE/видео.html
I love flugelhorn!! I own one myself, a Yamaha student 2310 Great video by the way, can't wait for more of these type of instrument reviews. Happy trumpeting 🎺
An old pal of mine plays the flugelhorn, he learned his trade with Grimethorpe colliery Band and boy can he play. We would play at the local agricultural show and he would come to join us then he would play his post horn to post horn gallop stood front and centre and and it would resonate down the valley it was amazing the hairs on the back of your neck would be stood on end as he played.
I actually bought one of these a couple of years ago but it arrived broken. Thomann sent a courier to pick it up and refunded me, but they never sent a replacement. That was when I came across my Courtois at a bargain price so I bought it. The Thomann is well liked. A lot get sold but few appear on the used market which must say something about them.
Pretty good intonation but the main thing is how even they feel. The valve block is straight through when the valves are up and it’s designed to feel more open even though it’s a small bore. The bell is big though. It’s wider than a Bach and it won’t fit in any flugel gig bag.
@@GordonHudson Yes; the large bell is one of the attractions (or was, good point about fitting it in a bag...). Thanks for the info, Gordon. :) Continued best wishes, my friend. I'll be most thankful when this virus has quit its attempt at ending humanity. :)
Thank you for the video, Mr Milam. I wouldn't mind buying a flugelhorn just for the fun of it. I have a trumpet and cornet, so it would be nice to have the full set. my cornet is an Olds Ambassador: what do you know about them? Mine looks to be 20-30 years old but still plays well. I prefer the trumpet (I want to buy a Yamaha 6335 soon), but the cornet gives a different experience, which is nice for variation sometimes. God bless. Nathan.
The only cornet I've kept (of all that I've bought) is an Olds Special - which is very similar to an Ambassador. :) Olds was making very fine instruments when the Ambassador and Special were in their lineup. They can be very fine horns! :)
If I was gonna get a flugel to mess around with, and potentially play in a small jazz band with, would this be a good choice? I'm currently a Junior in HS and have been working on tone on trumpet for a while now, and i'm also getting better at improv, so I wanted to get a flugel so I can achieve that rich, buttery tone they're so known for. Is this a good choice, and what is the farthest you would go with this is a band setting?
I think this flugel would work fine for you at this point. If you ever decide to get something nicer, it's a really easy price point to resell too. The most important thing about any flugel (assuming it's a decent model - and this Thomann is certainly decent) is the mouthpiece. I have 7 or 8 flugel mouthpieces, all different makes, and at least one of them will make any flugel work well. I buy used mouthpieces (Ebay, Reverb.com orTrumpetHerald's Marketplace). This is important; the right mouthpiece can make any decent flugel sound better and play more in tune. Here's an option if you live in America... ruclips.net/video/yCyCf9L-WFE/видео.html It's a flugel put out by Dillon, a large brass store in New Jersey. If you're outside of the US, the Thomann may be easier. They both play well. :) Good luck - and keep in touch! :)
@@JonathanMilam1I think i'm gonna pull the trigger on getting this, but I also think i'm gonna buy a good mouthpiece for it, and it's kind of intimidating with all of the different taper sizes, what taper does this flugel have?
I just bought this flugelhorn from Thomann. I am a trumpet player. What would be a good mouth piece for it? I would like to try another one than the one shipped with the instrument, but without spending a lot of money on it. I would very much appreciate your advice on this.
With my Thomann, I did find that different mouthpieces resulted in nicely different tone(s). But... It's very hard to suggest a mouthpiece. I know people that like the deepest, biggest mouthpiece they can get for a flugelhorn. For me, too deep is a challenge to play. I generally go to a middle type mouthpiece; not too deep, but certainly not too shallow. Also - I almost always buy mouthpieces used and I have MANY. :) Curry makes a nice flugel mouthpiece that isn't too expensive; his deep version is still very manageable; I like Curry mouthpieces quite a bit. I use mostly Reeves mouthpieces, and that's what I generally use on flugels now, but I also use Curry. If you have friends that play flugel, take some alcohol swabs along and try out every mouthpiece you can find. Congrats on your purchase - and let us know how everything turns out, what mouthpiece(s) you like, and so on.
@@JonathanMilam1 Thank you very much, Jonathan, for your generous advice. I will look at the brands you suggest. Just for fun, I tried my trumpet mouthpiece on it, and the flugelhorn then started to sound almost like a trumpet, which shows that the mouthpiece affects the sound a lot.
Hi! Jonathan, l'd like to know, where i can purchase the thomann fh 600. Did you purchase it on the website? Although, l have a Allora brand trumpet(ATR 450)and the flugelhorn(AAFG 103F). I like to buy one. Walter
Walter, I actually bought mine from a guy locally who was selling it. This one will probably be up for sale before long... I'll put a link here and probably sell it at TrumpetHerald.com in the Marketplace. Thanks for commenting!
You won't find a better value, in my opinion. Mine was a good player. Dillon Music, if you're in the USA, has what is probably a better playing flugel for about $475, but the Thomann is about half that price... Frankly, it's an unbelievably inexpensive flugel. :) Good luck - and please let us know here if you get one! :)
Giuseppe; great question. You can get this from Mark Curry: www.currympc.com/Flugelhorn-Mouthpieces.html His deepest, his FLD (probably stands for 'flugel deep') is a nice piece. The deeper the cup AND the larger the backbore (larger drill) the darker the sound from your flugel will be. BUT it comes with a trade off. I think that the deeper the cup and the larger the backbore the more intonation problems you'll find; but this is my opinion. :) I have mouthpieces by Curry, Reeves, Marcinkiewicz, Kanstul, Benge and a few others. Whenever I get a flugel - I go through all of my mouthpieces to see which enables the easiest intonation. But, all things being equal, a big mouthpiece will give you a darker, prettier sound. Hope this helps! And for a bargain search for used mouthpieces at Ebay, Reverb and TrumpetHerald.com . Good luck - and keep in touch. :)
Great video as always! Do they still sell the Super Chops flugel mps? When I researched it it looks like they are made by Northern Brass. Is that what you have? Thanks!
You know, I"m not sure who made my Superchops mouthpiece. I picked it up at TrumpetHerald.com. I think they have a section there that is dedicated to Jerry Callet, the orginiator of the Superchops stuff. They'd probably know for sure. Recently, I picked up a Bob Reeves flugel piece. It's quite like the Superchops as far as not too deep a cup and not too large a drill - and like the Superchops, it helps some flugels intonation greatly. Hope this helps! :)
Which flugelhorn horn do you think is better between this Thomann and the Dillion flugelhorn both of which you've done reviews on? I am a total beginner and want to learn to play the flugelhorn.
I do think the Dillon played better than the Thomann. Every horn is different, but my Dillon plays much better than it should for its cost. Here's a thread at TrumpetHerald where the Dillon is discussed... www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=161449&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Nice sounding flugelhorn. Does Thomann have their horns fabricated in China or do they have local vendors in the UK? A friend of mine bought one of their large bore trumpets made with a single bell and monel valves. He likes it a lot, for $450.00 it appears he got a lot of horn for the money. For that price I am assuming it must be a Chinese fab job. Hope you’re doing well, Sir. Looking forward to your next post 🎺
Now you know I'm not European. :) When I read your comment, it makes me wonder why I didn't realize this right away. My bad, but thank you for the info. I'll keep it in mind for future comments (and yes; I am blushing). :)
Just what I expected. Another great demo and some fun facts. Love your experience and willingness to share. Great hymn.
Phil Driscoll played that on his first record back in about '76. I think you can find it at RUclips someplace. Gorgeous hymn! Thanks, as always, for commenting!!
I owned Thomann flugelhorn and curry mp and i really loved,put i have to sell for my money issues😐
now THIS is a review. Im sold.
Very nice flugel, and a superb value. With brass instruments, we almost always get what we pay for; buy cheap, and one gets a cheap instument. This Thomann was a great value. And I've found one similar since, Dillon's flugel. If one lives in the US, this may be the way to go... ruclips.net/video/yCyCf9L-WFE/видео.html
Thanks for the video. I have been checking out this flugelhorn on the Thomann website, and I think I will go ahead and make that purchase.
This flugel is SUCH a bargain! There are always used horns at Trumpetherald.com, but Thomann’s price for this flugel is hard to beat.
I love flugelhorn!!
I own one myself, a Yamaha student 2310
Great video by the way, can't wait for more of these type of instrument reviews.
Happy trumpeting 🎺
Thank you! Very kind comments!! :)
An old pal of mine plays the flugelhorn, he learned his trade with Grimethorpe colliery Band and boy can he play. We would play at the local agricultural show and he would come to join us then he would play his post horn to post horn gallop stood front and centre and and it would resonate down the valley it was amazing the hairs on the back of your neck would be stood on end as he played.
Flugel, when played well, is a gorgeous. I don't play it often enough to do justice to them. Still, very fun and so different from a trumpet. :)
I actually bought one of these a couple of years ago but it arrived broken. Thomann sent a courier to pick it up and refunded me, but they never sent a replacement. That was when I came across my Courtois at a bargain price so I bought it. The Thomann is well liked. A lot get sold but few appear on the used market which must say something about them.
I've always wanted one of the Courtois flugels. Good intonation?
Pretty good intonation but the main thing is how even they feel. The valve block is straight through when the valves are up and it’s designed to feel more open even though it’s a small bore. The bell is big though. It’s wider than a Bach and it won’t fit in any flugel gig bag.
@@GordonHudson Yes; the large bell is one of the attractions (or was, good point about fitting it in a bag...). Thanks for the info, Gordon. :) Continued best wishes, my friend. I'll be most thankful when this virus has quit its attempt at ending humanity. :)
@@JonathanMilam1 Me too! Hopefully another 10 weeks will see it pass.
Thank you for the video, Mr Milam. I wouldn't mind buying a flugelhorn just for the fun of it. I have a trumpet and cornet, so it would be nice to have the full set. my cornet is an Olds Ambassador: what do you know about them? Mine looks to be 20-30 years old but still plays well. I prefer the trumpet (I want to buy a Yamaha 6335 soon), but the cornet gives a different experience, which is nice for variation sometimes. God bless. Nathan.
The only cornet I've kept (of all that I've bought) is an Olds Special - which is very similar to an Ambassador. :) Olds was making very fine instruments when the Ambassador and Special were in their lineup. They can be very fine horns! :)
If I was gonna get a flugel to mess around with, and potentially play in a small jazz band with, would this be a good choice? I'm currently a Junior in HS and have been working on tone on trumpet for a while now, and i'm also getting better at improv, so I wanted to get a flugel so I can achieve that rich, buttery tone they're so known for. Is this a good choice, and what is the farthest you would go with this is a band setting?
I think this flugel would work fine for you at this point. If you ever decide to get something nicer, it's a really easy price point to resell too. The most important thing about any flugel (assuming it's a decent model - and this Thomann is certainly decent) is the mouthpiece. I have 7 or 8 flugel mouthpieces, all different makes, and at least one of them will make any flugel work well. I buy used mouthpieces (Ebay, Reverb.com orTrumpetHerald's Marketplace). This is important; the right mouthpiece can make any decent flugel sound better and play more in tune. Here's an option if you live in America...
ruclips.net/video/yCyCf9L-WFE/видео.html It's a flugel put out by Dillon, a large brass store in New Jersey. If you're outside of the US, the Thomann may be easier. They both play well. :) Good luck - and keep in touch! :)
@@JonathanMilam1I think i'm gonna pull the trigger on getting this, but I also think i'm gonna buy a good mouthpiece for it, and it's kind of intimidating with all of the different taper sizes, what taper does this flugel have?
I’m checking out a Bobby Shew Flugalhorn mouth piece . That horn you’re playing is identical to My SOLISTA R RAWLEN
Very interesting! There is a LOT of copying that goes on with mouthpieces and horns, I think.
What kind of shank should I use for the instrument?
This takes a large Morse (I believe it's called). The same shank that the Yamaha flugels take.
hi.I have the same flugelhorn(silver)a very good flugelhorn.Grettings from sweden
Very cool! I purchased mine locally, just a fluke that I saw it in a local Craigslist ad. :)
I just bought this flugelhorn from Thomann. I am a trumpet player. What would be a good mouth piece for it? I would like to try another one than the one shipped with the instrument, but without spending a lot of money on it. I would very much appreciate your advice on this.
With my Thomann, I did find that different mouthpieces resulted in nicely different tone(s). But... It's very hard to suggest a mouthpiece. I know people that like the deepest, biggest mouthpiece they can get for a flugelhorn. For me, too deep is a challenge to play. I generally go to a middle type mouthpiece; not too deep, but certainly not too shallow. Also - I almost always buy mouthpieces used and I have MANY. :) Curry makes a nice flugel mouthpiece that isn't too expensive; his deep version is still very manageable; I like Curry mouthpieces quite a bit. I use mostly Reeves mouthpieces, and that's what I generally use on flugels now, but I also use Curry. If you have friends that play flugel, take some alcohol swabs along and try out every mouthpiece you can find. Congrats on your purchase - and let us know how everything turns out, what mouthpiece(s) you like, and so on.
@@JonathanMilam1 Thank you very much, Jonathan, for your generous advice. I will look at the brands you suggest. Just for fun, I tried my trumpet mouthpiece on it, and the flugelhorn then started to sound almost like a trumpet, which shows that the mouthpiece affects the sound a lot.
Yes; the flugel still
has more ‘spread’ than a trumpet, but mouthpieces make almost unimaginable change in tone.
Hi! Jonathan, l'd like to know, where i can purchase the thomann fh 600. Did you purchase it on the website? Although, l have a Allora brand trumpet(ATR 450)and the flugelhorn(AAFG 103F). I like to buy one. Walter
Walter, I actually bought mine from a guy locally who was selling it. This one will probably be up for sale before long... I'll put a link here and probably sell it at TrumpetHerald.com in the Marketplace. Thanks for commenting!
I'm considering buying this instrument. I'm a trombonist, but a total beginner in trumpet / cornet / flugel.
You won't find a better value, in my opinion. Mine was a good player. Dillon Music, if you're in the USA, has what is probably a better playing flugel for about $475, but the Thomann is about half that price... Frankly, it's an unbelievably inexpensive flugel. :) Good luck - and please let us know here if you get one! :)
Hello, I have the exact same flugelhorn, but I'm looking for a mouthpiece that offers me a warm sound. What do you recommend?
Giuseppe; great question. You can get this from Mark Curry:
www.currympc.com/Flugelhorn-Mouthpieces.html
His deepest, his FLD (probably stands for 'flugel deep') is a nice piece. The deeper the cup AND the larger the backbore (larger drill) the darker the sound from your flugel will be. BUT it comes with a trade off. I think that the deeper the cup and the larger the backbore the more intonation problems you'll find; but this is my opinion. :) I have mouthpieces by Curry, Reeves, Marcinkiewicz, Kanstul, Benge and a few others. Whenever I get a flugel - I go through all of my mouthpieces to see which enables the easiest intonation. But, all things being equal, a big mouthpiece will give you a darker, prettier sound. Hope this helps! And for a bargain search for used mouthpieces at Ebay, Reverb and TrumpetHerald.com . Good luck - and keep in touch. :)
Could you give me your opinion on the Bach 3c mouthpiece for soprano flugelhorn?
Giuseppe, I've never played anything but a regular Bb flugel. :) Make a vid, post it - and I'll enjoy watching it though. :)
@@JonathanMilam1 ruclips.net/video/Upz8-8gvhcI/видео.htmlsi=V_mte-9B-LXRPvb1
Denis Wick 2FL
Great video as always! Do they still sell the Super Chops flugel mps? When I researched it it looks like they are made by Northern Brass. Is that what you have? Thanks!
You know, I"m not sure who made my Superchops mouthpiece. I picked it up at TrumpetHerald.com. I think they have a section there that is dedicated to Jerry Callet, the orginiator of the Superchops stuff. They'd probably know for sure. Recently, I picked up a Bob Reeves flugel piece. It's quite like the Superchops as far as not too deep a cup and not too large a drill - and like the Superchops, it helps some flugels intonation greatly. Hope this helps! :)
Which flugelhorn horn do you think is better between this Thomann and the Dillion flugelhorn both of which you've done reviews on? I am a total beginner and want to learn to play the flugelhorn.
I do think the Dillon played better than the Thomann. Every horn is different, but my Dillon plays much better than it should for its cost. Here's a thread at TrumpetHerald where the Dillon is discussed...
www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=161449&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
never gonna give you up never gonna let you down never gonna run around and desert you
Well said, Rick!!
i bought the gs silver version..is very good...i serch a mouthpiece for a dark sound, i attend a denis wick 2fl...
Super! Thanks for the comment! :)
Denis Wick 2f or 2fl is absolutely fantastic
$300. Cant't beat it!!!
Yes; very, very reasonably priced.
What exactly meant by " intonation"?
Intonation = playing in tune. Many flugels have major problems playing in tune; some have many notes that are ‘off’.
@@JonathanMilam1 thanks, I wasn't sure, but what about tonal quality? Is it a rich full tone?
thanks
You're welcome!
Nice sounding flugelhorn. Does Thomann have their horns fabricated in China or do they have local vendors in the UK? A friend of mine bought one of their large bore trumpets made with a single bell and monel valves. He likes it a lot, for $450.00 it appears he got a lot of horn for the money. For that price I am assuming it must be a Chinese fab job. Hope you’re doing well, Sir. Looking forward to your next post 🎺
Im guessing that it's made in the Orient. This one is SO much like the Yamaha pro horn - but so much less $$. Amazing.
Pronounced TOE-MAWN I believe ;)
Now you know I'm not European. :) When I read your comment, it makes me wonder why I didn't realize this right away. My bad, but thank you for the info. I'll keep it in mind for future comments (and yes; I am blushing). :)