Disney Animation's Wartime Era Explained
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- Опубликовано: 15 янв 2019
- After Disney's first few films, he saw himself in the midst of an animation strike, but World War II provided funding as well as new ideas.
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I love these Disney Eras videos. They are super informative and entertaining. I once made a speech about the history of Disney animation and it's fun to review things I learned when putting that together, and learning new things I never knew about.
I don't think I've ever seen any of the movies of the wartime era, and I didn't even know they existed until I made that speech. It's a very fascinating era. I might watch these films someday.
Jenny Raylen Three Caballeros is probably the most well known and easiest to find. I believe you can find it combined with Saludos Amigos on DVD. I’d highly recommend watch the documentary Walt and El Grupo too if you haven’t-Josh
Me too.
I have to say thank. I'm learning more and more of Disney's history in animation.
As someone who has been studying Walt Disney and his company for many years, I love sharing this information and having people like you watching makes it all worth it! -Josh
I’m in the middle of watching every Disney animated film in a row. I finished the Wartime Era around the end of 2018 and while I disliked them at the time I’ve grown a bit more fond in retrospect- probably wouldnt Watch Again but maybe I’d do individual shorts- anyway, these videos are good recaps!! Can’t wait for Silver Age which is my favorite so far
how about the movie of night mare before xmas & frankweeie
The Wartime era was underrated. While I wish these films focused on a single narrative, I really do appreciate the artistic expression and experimentation in a lot of these films. Surprisingly, I remember a few of these from my childhood. Ichabod and Mr. Toad was my favorite. I will have to give these movies a re-watch soon.
IT wasn't a dark time but it struggled
I've always loved these shorts! The Disney Channel used to show a lot of them in the 1980's individually or in compilation shows but I was also lucky enough to get a VHS of Melody Time, which has my all-time favorite cartoon "Johnny Fedora & Alice Blue Bonnet"! I still always stop at the window with the hat display at Hollywood Studios. I'll have to check and see if it's still there!
I loved the wartime shorts and movies as a kid! My parents tended to randomly watch them on RUclips, and I had a collection on DVD featuring Johnny Appleseed, Paul Bunyan, John Henry, and Kasey Jones. I remember this collection incredibly fondly. The stories were charming, and the songs were beautiful. I only didn’t like one thing about the DVD. It had mini games on it, like most children’s movies in the early 2000s. But one of these games was impossible to beat, no matter what option you picked, and that was incredibly frustrating. However, this never tarnished the stories themselves. I loved those, and I always will. :> Johnny Appleseed was my favorite of the four.
Fun and Fancy Free or Ichabod and Mr Toad are definitely the films that are better known from this period. I don't even think Disney fans even know about the others as full features.
I think the same thing and have actually heard people say "that's where that is from?". It's pretty crazy that nearly a decade of Disney movies go unrecognized because they are anthologies rather than one singular story. -Josh
Wow this is really informative, as someone who loves animation and I'm learning the history by myself this is really cool..also I didn't know these shorts were from that era, I know 3 caballeros and wind in the willows and the one Mickey is in, but I haven't heard or seen the other ones. Thank you so much for this info. You got a new subscriber :)
Thank you for subscribing. I'm sure these films will be available on the new Disney+ streaming service soon but you can find many of the shorts on RUclips if you are interested! -Josh
I’ve only ever heard of “Saludos Amigos” and “The Three Caballeros”, but I haven’t seen them. I did see Ichabod’s story after reading The Legend of Sleepy Hollow and I was a bit scared, which happens easily for me 🙈 I have always loved the Johnny Appleseed story though!❤️🍎
You aren't alone. There are a lot of people who haven't seen these movies just because they don't even know what they are about and honestly they aren't really about anything, but that backstory is what makes them significant and the animation and music is fantastic. -Josh
I love The Three Caballeros!!! It’s so fun and I love the characters!!
I 100% agree. It is a super fun film and one of my favorites of all of Disney. -Josh
Network 1901 it’s my favorite too
I liked some of the little shorts like Johnny Appleseed, the one with the blue car, Sleepy Hollow, Casey Jones and his train and possibly Lambert the Sheepish Lion?
Of these, I've only ever watched Ichabod and Mr. Toad, but I do really like it, and even own the VHS. Partly because the Legend of Sleepy Hollow is one of my all time favorite works of literature.
I remember when I was 13 and got really interested in learning about Disney and World War II. So I started watching these films and a bunch of the propaganda shorts Disney made especially the ones with Donald Duck on RUclips before the website got crazy with copyright. It was a pretty interesting time and learned a lot. And that’s how I became a history nerd I am today.
I have a similar story. I always liked Disney movies and the theme parks, but when I learned more about Disney during WWII through a Walt Disney biography I was all in. To this day my favorite character is still Jose Carioca.
You guys need more subscribers. Great videos.
Mike M That means a ton! We have been gaining subscribers and popularity in general
@@ModernMouse - I cannot wait for the Silver Era video. That being said, I am glad that you do not rush it out, and produce quality video. Keep up the good work.
Why isn't Make Mine Music and Melody Time available on Blu-Ray yet? D:
I am just Plexi Good question. Disney released Three Caballeros and Saludos Amigos as a combo pack. I could see them doing that with those two films as well. You can find many of the shorts on RUclips. I know it’s not the same. -Josh
@@ModernMouse Nah, I'm probably just gonna stream them from Putlockers to see the full thing until they come on Blu-ray. You know that a company is doing something wrong if you want to pay money for their product but can't since they haven't released it so you have to watch them illegally. Sure i could buy them on DVD but i wanna collect Disney movies on Blu-ray since i don't like DVDs in the PAL region (where i live), the reason is that the sound of the movie is pitched up
I am just Plexi I’m in this boat of wanting to own the Blu-Ray too. Unfortunately the general public doesn’t appreciate these films and they’ve forgotten them entirely. -Josh
@@Mickelraven - I know how you feel. I have been wanting a DVD release of the original japanese Iron Chef. Still no such thing, despite a high demand on the internet.
@@ModernMouse - I think it would still sell to hardcore collectors
You guys need so many more subs!
We are working on it! Over the last 3 months we've been really serious about strategy and how we will accomplish our goals. Thanks for joining us for the ride! -Josh
Well done! Learned a lot from this one
st00g3y The wartime era is something I am super passionate about because I feel like it gets a bad wrap but with context it becomes super important. Plus who doesn’t love Jose and Panchito! -Josh
This was very informative, thank you guys
Angel Pérez thanks for watching
Fun Fact the Longest Disney movie is Fantasia at 125 mins and the shortest is Sadlous Amigoes at 42 mins .
But in terms of a single story the Longest is Ralph Breaks the Internet at 119 mins and the shortest used to be Dumbo at 64 mins before Winnie the Pooh 2011 at 63 mins
Fun Fact: I still haven't seen the 2011 Winnie The Pooh. I should get on that.
Victory Through Air Power deserves recognition as well.
The Reluctant Dragon, Victory Through Air Power, Song of the South, and So Dear to My Heart will all get recognition for us in a later video. We wanted to keep this video strictly to what Disney calls their "Animated Classics". Because those films are considered more live action than animation we will definitely be covering them in a future live action video series. -Josh
I LOVE THESE MOVIES!!!!!
Me too and I'm glad I got to do this video because they go unappreciated but there is so much history tied to them. -Josh
I preferred Rankin/Bass's Wind in the Willows to Mr. Toad.
how about the post war time era I think it was the end off war time and movie,s like princes & the frog & the big hero 6
Fun and Fancy Free is SO GOOD
It is good and constantly overlooked
I have yet to see the others in this era, but so far I love Fun and Fancy Free
I have seen all of the wartime era movies and shorts. Highly recommend Disney plus for all your Disney era needs!!!
Now that they are on the streaming service there is no excuse. They are so fun and if you haven't watched the documentary "Walt and El Grupo" it is a great companion to these films. -Josh
So what is the difference between Make MIne music and Melody Time as why didn't the latter become Make mine Music 2?
At that time there weren't any sequel films that used a "2". That actually wouldn't happen until the 1950s. I also think they just wanted to distinguish the two films apart from one another somehow, especially since films were often re-released in theaters. That way you wouldn't wonder if it was the original or the sequel. You just knew from the distinct titles.
Ive seen the 3 Calliaros and Mr. Ichibon but the rest of them I haven't heard of. Also No mention of "Song of the South?"
Song of the south was not a package feature.
Also nobody likes that film
Song of the South was majority live-action, and the decidedly pro-Confederate live action is the odious part of the film. Disney has had no problem including James Baskett and "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah" in other Disney TV & home video products, but the rest of the film is probably in the same back corner of the Disney Vault as Walt's cryogenically preserved head (at least as SNL once depicted it).
It was a live action film with animation hybrid, so it wasn't a package film at all.
And though I never seen a film, I was at one point getting a film on Facebook among other classic Disney films and when I look at the price, I rather not going to spend my money on it.
So once again I'll never going to see the film. At least I know about the plot of the feature. So the film is rather too inappropriate for modern standards.
I have seen melody and ichobod and Mr toad these films while not great are fun and exciting
At 9:10 in the background while the narrator is talking you can hear dragon ball z character’s charging up their ki and than teleporting!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't hear it. Maybe you hear it in the background music, but I assure you there was no Dragon Ball being played while I was recording. -Josh
I've watched all of the Disney Classics at least once, and my least favorite era is the Wartime Era. Although it isn't bad, the films are just not up to Disney's standards. I like Saludos Amigos, Fun and Fancy Free, and The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad the most out of them, though.
These aren't the greatest films but I do think they have the "Disney charm"! Also thank you for all of the comments across the eras videos. -Josh
@@ModernMouse Yeah, I can see the charm to them, and I definitely agree with that. And no problem!
It's weird, I tend to think of this era as kind of boring and unfamiliar, but then every time I DO see a clip of something I used to watch (Peter and the Wolf, Mickey and the Beanstalk, and Sleepy Hollow), my heart just aches and I'm reminded of all these memories I didn't even know I still had. I think of being 5 and watching these, when we used to live near Disneyland. Guess I'm more fond of this era than I thought.
I think many people don't even know these movies exist and that they were just shorts put out prior to older movies. If you take the time to actually watch these films in their entirety there is a lot to love about them! -Josh
@@ModernMouse yeah I used to think they were just shorts! Just rented the first 3 movies on the list at the library today
The only great one i’ve seen so far ichabod and mister toad
Benny Goodman and The Andrews Sisters♥️💕💕♥️ Oh Walt you out did yourself✨
Honestly those songs are great and because the films aren't really appreciated, nobody remembers them but they are great!
@@ModernMouse why does no one appreciate these films tho?
I love the Three Caballeros!
Steve M me too 💙❤️💚
Me three -Josh
I have seen all of them multiple times.
According to my comments, that makes you a rarity along with me. Welcome to the club!
3:45 they predicted kusco
hahaha
Last package film being melody time? What about fantasia 2000?
"The last package film of that era" is really what I was saying. Fantasia 2000 was definitely a package film and I don't see Disney making another theatrical package film at all as they aren't box office gold like the linear single story films are. -Josh
I love the Wind in the willows 🐸🦡🐁🐴🚂🚗😈
Of this era I like fun and fancy free.
The three Caballeros is my only favourite film from the war time era I never grew up with the others
I have seen them all they were put on Disney's tv show in the 60s
how do you feel about, ,,war time revival era like night mare before xmas 2 co,co pixar movie,
how about for FROZEN I WILL PUT THAT AT,, SILVER AGE REVIVAL ERA,
Here's my personal ranking of the wartime films
1. The Three Caballeros
2. Fun And Fancy Free
3. The Adventures Of Ichabod And Mr. Toad
4. Saludos Amigos
5. Melody Time
6. Make Mine Music.
Out of all the package films, the only ones I truly like are Fun and Fancy Free & The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad. The rest are forgettable and some of my least favorite Disney movies in the Disney animation canon along with Black Cauldron, Home on the Range, and Chicken Little. I use to like The Three Caballeros as a kid, but looking back at it now, The Three Caballeros song is still memorable, but the movie itself doesn't hold up well.
I rewatched Three Caballeros again thanks to Disney+. For me it is memorable but it does feel much more artsy and that takes a certain kind of person to like. I think some of these films would actually do really well if they were uploaded to the new streaming service as shorts rather than the feature length films they were originally presented in. Casey at the Bat, Pecos Bill, etc.... would probably find a new audience. -Josh
Like the legend of sleepy hallow alot
Same here. I think it gets lost in this era but everyone I've ever talked to that has seen it likes it. Nobody remembers where they saw it though. -Josh
@@ModernMouse i saw it on video tape
i can under stead the war,time package film,s were not the best film,s off that ERA but the fan,s today & I love,s them and just look at the era off walt disney film,s & pixar it does FIT IN TOGETHER TWO< AT THAT ERA AS WELL,
how about the one called FANTAISA 2000,
Why do people pretend like song of the south never happened?
Song of the South, despite being made during the Wartime era, isn't considered an animated feature. That movie, as well as The Reluctant Dragon, Victory Through Air Power, and So Dear to my Heart, are all considered live action films despite having animation in them. We will eventually talk about all of these films and do a "Live Action Eras Explained" video so don't worry we aren't just pretending it never happened. -Josh
Network 1901 good to know👍 I’ve never seen it I just saw cartoons on the small clips I have seen so I thought it was more animated than not.
@@ModernMouse That sounds great! Will it also include Bedknobs and Broomsticks, and Mary Poppins? (And maybe Who Framed Roger Rabbit as a postscript?)
Wartime era wasn't a dark time but disney struggled
The company sure acts like it was a dark time nowadays.
@@austinreed7343 sure covid-19 pandemic was the hardest time of the company's history since WWII in the past Century and you see in the aftermath of the war Disney struggle Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry Mickey Mouse's audiences nowadays it's the same the Super Mario Brothers movie was so close to beat up Frozen 2 as the highest grossing animated film of all time stylize animation have came to stay what's Sony pictures animation becoming the first pioneers with Spider-Man into the spider-verse and its sequel this year and the Mitchells versus the machines but then other companies wanted to follow suit with DreamWorks with the bad guys and Puss In boots 2 The Last Wish and Nickelodeon movies with teenage mutant ninja turtles mutant mayhem they were able to Dazzle people even more than what Disney and Pixar in the wonderful world of Disney it's like a mix of the 2000s with wartime era long gone those days when Disney and Pixar took us to Worlds that that felt realistic with emotional stories and characters doing singing and dance numbers now we have entered into a new. Where animated films have become a lot more action-packed and give it a new definition with style
This Is The Formerly Disney 2
how about post war time ERA,
What about it? Do you mean because some of the films came out after the war?
YES HOW ABOUT THE FILM, PRINCESS & THE FROG
@@davidconway1905 these movies came out in the 1940s. Princess and the Frog came out in 2009. There have been a ton of films to come out after World War 2.
So many inane or downright idiotic posts about Disney films... *Thank you* for presenting "just the facts" with maturity, respect and insight. 🙏🌹
All of these are familiar.
One of the things about this era is that many of these films have been broken up and shown in short clips in one way or another. The theme parks even use a lot of the characters and design work from these films, especially Disneyland since it was built in 1955 and all of these films were out and publicly popular by the time the park opened...but rarely to people ever think of a movie like Fun and Fancy Free when they think Disney. Its more of an "oh yeah, they made that" kind of thing instead of a "my favorite movie is...." thing. -Josh
I bought all the Disney classics from Snow White to Zootopia on DVD a few years ago, and that's why these war-time films are also familiar, otherwise possibly not.
I Hope that Jews sing Saludos Amigos when they were on Chile during the second War world. :D
Wow. That is interesting. I think the wartime era is probably the weakest of the Disney eras. None of the movies became famous classics. On top of that they are broken into segements. So they have no plot. I did manage to watch all of them in recent time. When I watched this video, I realized what happening. DIsney was struggling really badly during the war. So he wasn't able to make full length movies. So he put shorts together and makes those into movies. Disney lost the European market due to the war. That lost a lot of money. Then Disney lost a lot of employees due to drafts and strikes. That is a hardship.
The movies I like are the ones about Latin America. They are not technically good movies. None of the wartime fils are. However I like the Latin American movies. They bring a lot of interesting culture. This is the first time that Disney made a movie set someplace that isn't Europe or the United States. That trend continues. In modern times there are Disney movie set in all around the world. My favorite movie of this era is Three Caballeros. It is the only one that I enjoyed both as a kid and as an adult. Donald meets up with his friends, Jose and Panchito. They explore Latin America and have cool songs. My favorite songs are the slow pretty ones. There is the Baia one, the Mexico one and the Zandunga one. Zanduga is the one with dancing blue flowers. After that part there are dancing cactus. That part of the movie gets really wierd and colorful. I know that there are jokes about Disney movies being on acid. That is for wierd stuff like Alice and Wonderland, Fantasia and Dumbo. Now I wonder if Three Caballeros turns into a peyote trip. The penguin part is pretty cool. It is about a penguin moving from Antartica to South America. I realize that it makes a alot of sense in terms of biology. The story subverts the stereotype that penguins live in Antartica. The ocean off the west coast of South America is a very good home for sea life. There is a cool Humboldt Current that carries cool Antarctic water. It also churns up nutrients for sea life to eat. There are actually three related species of penguins living in this area. There is the Magellan penguin, the Humboldt penguin and the Galapagos Penguin. The Galapagos penguin is the only penguin that lives north of the equater. My second favorite wartime movie is Saludos Amigos. I watched it once or twice, and I couldn't get into it. When I watched it recently, I found it a lot more enjoyable and interesting. This movie is more of a behind the scenes documentary than a real movie. So this is one that I only enjoy when I am older. I think both of these movie can be expanded on. Each segments can be expanded into a full blown movie. My favorite Pixar movie is Coco. That is like the parts about Mexico. It is better since it is a full length animated movie with a solid plot. There is great culture and great music. I like the part where it goes into the Day of the Dead holiday. It is very interesting. The Andies Mountains is a cool setting. One can make a full length movie in there. There can be Incas, llamas and condors. I am a fan of Andian music. That cas easily turn into a muciscal. Disney did have a movie like this much later. It is the Emperer's New Groove. I haven't seen that movie is a really long time. I don't remeber it being very good. Maybe it would have worked better if it took itself more seriously and dove deeper into the folklore and culture. There can be other things. One can make a whole movie about Brazil. That would be cool. There can even be a full length western movie about a gaucho on the Pampas. Westerns are old hat. An interesting spin is to have the South American version. Disney going on a diplomatic trip to Latin America is interesting. Maybe that can be done in a movie. I did get a whole new idea. It is a plot to make these movies better. There is a threat of some big empire. Then there is a war. Donald Duck is on the side opposing the mighty empire. So Donald becomes a diplomat. He travels to Latin America to gain support. He befrends two other characters. Jose Carioca is the diplomat of Brazil. Panchito Pistoles is the diplomat of Mexico. They can still have all the fun scenes before. It is just that there is an important diplomatic mission underlying it. It provides a plot. I did think of a compelling reason why Latin America should join the side opposing the empire. The empire is very racist. That is a big part of making it so threatening and so dangerous. Since Latin Americans are not pure white people, they could be victims of racism. The empire could attack Latin America. So it is in Latin America's best interest to fight back. When everybody gets together as a team, they have the best chance of beating the Empire. I am not sure if this to too blatent as a basis on real life. I did think of going the Zootopia route and have discrimination of species be thinly vield rasism. The mighty race is the eagles. There are eagles on both sides of the war. Donald is a duck. Jose is a parrot. Pachito is a chicken. The bad eagles dicriminate against these other kinds of birds. So they should be stopped. That would be cool.
The other four Disney movies of the era are not as good. I wold consider them to among the worst. Fun and Fancy Free and the Adventures of Icabod and Mr. Toad are a bit better. They only have two stories each, and they are fleshed out a bit better. I did learn from this video. Disney tried to make these stories into full length movies, but the harship of the time prevented him. Icabod and Mr. Toad is the one I enjoyed as a kid. I think both stories have potential to be full length movies. Both are based on books. I never seen Fun and Fancy Free until recently. I did use to watch the Micky and the Beanstalk short in a seperate video. Of the four stories of both movies, none are really that good or enjoyable. I think the best is the Ichabod story. It is pretty cool. I wish that was fleshed out into a full length movie. It would be stronger. I have just noticed something when I recently watched this short. This reminds of Beauty and the Beast. There is similarity of the characters. Belle is like a cross of Ichabod and Katrina. Ichabog is like Belle because both are nerds, and both like to read. Both are protagonists of the stories. Both stories start in the same way. The nerd character walks through the town. They read thier book. Then the gossopy townflok sing a song that mocks them. The songs are catchy. However in a way, it is mean. The nerds didn't do anything wrong. They didn't hurt anybody. They are just walking along, minding thier own buissness. I am a nerd myself. So I can relate. I feel sorry for the nerd characters. Belle is a lot like Katrina too. Both are very beutiful women. All the guys in town find her attractive. Katrina does have lighter hair though. That is like the Beast having light hair in human form. Brom Bones a whole lot like Gaston. They totally look alike. They are both the dumb jocks that are popular in town. The jock bullies the nerd. They also desire the beautiful woman. In the Icabod story, Brom bullies Ickabod and desires Katrina. In Beauty and the Beast, Gaston desires Belle for her beauty. However he also bullies her about her nerdy ways. It is very dysfunctional. Ickabod desires Katrina too. When he daydreams about her, he kisses a feather duster and sneezes. Oh if he likes feather dusters, then he is as bad as Lumire. Then I realize that Icabod looks a lot like Lumier in his human form. The Icabod story is a scary one. Icabod goes off into the forest and finds the monster, which is the headless horsman. Similarly in Beatuy and the Beast, Belle goes into the forest and finds another monster, the Beast. The Beauty and the Beast is the movie that scared me the most as a kid. It is really scary for a Disney movie. It also came out when I was really little. So I got scared more easily. It is funny how similar the characters are. I developed my own thory. Beauty and the Beast is set in Mideval France. The Icabod story is set in Colonial United States. So the Icabod stroy came at a later time. The town is mainly English. However there were some French people that immigrated into the town. There are plenty of French people in Canada. So they could have movied down. So the main character in the Icabod story are decendents of characters in Beauty and the Beast. Katrina is a descendent of Belle and the Beast. Icabod is a descendent of Lumier and the Feather Duster lady. Bro Bones is the descendent of Gaston. Gaston himself is childless, and he dies in the story. So he would have a surving sibling or cousin. They can have children, and Brom Bones is descende from them.
The worst movies in the era are the ones that are broken up really bad. There are a lot of short sequences. The weaker one is Make Mine Music. This may even be the worst Disney movie in the canon. I found a lot of the shorts to be very unplesent. The only one I enjoy is Blue Bayou and Without You. I did used to watch Peter and the Wolf, when I was little. Now I am really disturbed looking back. The wolf didn't do anything wrong. It was just roaming in the woods minding its own business. Then Peter hunts it down for the fun and glory. That is so cruel. Peter is in the wrong. I only recently watched the whale story, and I didn't like it either. The whale didn't do anything wrong, and it just wanted to sing. However it was harpooned. It is just bad. I think of the first two eras, Bambi and Bongo are the two stories that handle the topic of animal cruelty the best. They show how cruel humans can be to animals. It brings the message of animal cruelty being wrong without being too preachy. It just shows animals suffer. That is all that is needed to get the message across. Later on Disney has 101 Dalmations. It tackles animal cruelty in a really brilliant way. One could have made the story using some wild animal that is actually used the for fur. They could show the animal suffering from hunting or from fur farming. However that didn't happened. Instead the animal is beloved family dogs. People are really attactched to thier dogs. So to see dogs suffer in the movie would make a big impact. If one did go for wild animals, I think the best are chinchillas and baby harp seals. They are so cute. If one wants to kill them for fur, they would have no soul. Melody Time is a better movie. It is still mediochre, but it is a bit more enjoyable. My favorite short is the one about samba. I think it should have been in Saludos Amigos or Three Caballeros instead. The ones about American legends are cool. It is a precurser to the Icabod story.
Who drafts these scripts? And, man, the VO “artist” was ROUGH. Very unpleasant cadence and the voice inflection was very choppy and distracting.
Some of these seem a little hagiographic when it comes to Walt Disney himself. I think it’s possible to love Disney while still acknowledging Walt’s shortcomings and moral failures as a human being.
Our Disney Legends series of videos has started to paint Walt in a more realistic tone, looking at his relationships with his employees. I agree that we don't showcase his humanity as much as we showcase his greatness in pop culture, but these Era videos are meant to give a brief rundown instead of a more detailed and nuanced look at Walt and his studio over the years. I'm excited to jump more into those kinds of human stories where he failed or was flawed. I don't see him as a bad guy, but he was at times ruthless and unforgiving, and other times he just made some poor judgements. -Josh
Network 1901 I just recently discovered this channel through the One Marvelous Scene playlist, and am really enjoying it so far. Looking forward to checking out the legends series you mentioned.