The problem with Jordan Peterson is that he became a man more interested in being right than in speaking truth. It may have been his battle with addiction that sent him there. But there he remains...at present.
Regardless of your opinion on Tate. The question shouldn't be whether or not he is right or wrong, good or bad. The question should be, What is missing in peoples lives and our culture that means that a charcter like Tate has such a following?
I think he speaks to that materially-obsessed part of young men who all want to be driving luxury sports cars and having flings with hot women. The guy might be a jerk but he flaunts a lifestyle that many wish they had.
@@Zodemus On the surface I don't think it's a particularly difficult question to answer. But there are definitely some deep cultural issues relating to it that could be discussed.
JP left a vacuum? Did I get that right? He’s left tons of material, take it & use it. We actually don’t need endless advice, we need implementation of what we already know. Making content is more for the content maker than it is for need, often. Let’s appreciate JP for not indulging in that temptation.
I personally think that Peterson did leave vacuum. The problem with current internet and the flow of informations is that people no longer look at stuff that was uploaded ages ago even if the quality far surpasses the newer content. It's content machine and algorithms. JBP is way healthier for men than Andrew but Andrew is talking to lonely men now even if it's just for his personal benefit.
“Nothing more cringeworthy than a sheeplike Trump or Tate sycophant, who think they’re morally or intellectually superior, posting Thomas Sowell Quotes” -Robin-fuckin’-Hood (1523)
@@omara6292I think Sam means it should be obvious when someone is an a hole according to Sam. Apparently dead kids and thwarting the democratic process don't matter as long as he gets his way.
Still, the best way is to find answers in this chaotic world is to operate with a critical mind. You can take pieces of wisdom from anyone who has done something positive. The message that Andrew Tate is giving was and still given by J.Peterson, David Goggins, Jocko Wilinck, Andy Frisella, Bedros Keullian, Patric Bet David and many more in much better way. We can clearly see that most of the young men who follow Tate's advice are operating from a reaction position rather than rational thinking.
@@sixtyninefromsixtonine I've seen a video of tate saying that if he is arguing wether 2+2 is 4 or 5 and he says its 5 because he can beat the shit out of someone who says is 4 (rightfully so) and then asks who is right. so even though 4 is the answer, the fact that he can beat the pulp out of someone and proclaim he's right by force is no way near of being better at counselling people.
@@AstheaTV i only criticise tate because he could deliver the same message in a totally different way. jordan doesnt condone bullying as way to show your masculinity or intelligence or integrity. you should be capable of force but know when to use it, and when not to use it, not to force an invalid point or fact just because you can enforce it. dictators and mentally unstable people do that. tate is like a broken clock, I've heard valid points but the way he sells his lifestyle, his product or his persona is too... wwe. i earn more and I can kick ass of most people i know. id never use that to belittle or dominate some other person. its just an ugly and toxic way to make yourself respected. before i explored the lore of tate, i liked him pushing back some entitled toxic feminists... but the more i researched the more i lost respect for him. i used the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen from him sure, but ill never respect that from any person. he can kill me and id never say that 4+4=5. if he's right he's right, wether he can kick my ass or not. that mentallity shows exactly the opposite he thinks, just shows weakness and a hurt and vengeful ego. like all tyrants that ruled masses in history.
@@AstheaTV what is your interpretation of that example? Exctly, I understand being provocative when your represent yourself. Media around an athlete, a fighter or some other profession that depends of some kind of public attention for shock value or recognition longevity, is always “good”, I hate it but I understand the why… that’s why I won’t ever defend it.
The pendulum swings back and forth. When everything became offensive being an asshole became attractive to people. When being an asshole gets played out, empathy will come back in style.
I would like to think the pendulum swings on how we value leadership. History tells us otherwise... and they don't endorse empathy in business schools. The courses taught on Power are all about showing Strategic Anger and navigating politics.
I’m 70 years old. Andrew Tate is abrasive in his approach which by itself turns some people off to the point where they can’t hear the message. This is similar to the issue some folks have with Jordan Peterson. However their fundamental message is very true. The role of masculine men in society has been marginalized. There is a pseudo sophistication in our society that doesn’t see the need for strong, tough, aggressive men. That mentality even feeds into this fluid gender identity mythology. Equality, equality, inclusion, open minded, diversity and all the other buzzwords are an attempt to blur the lines of social norms that have existed for thousands of years. Not all of those norms are relevant or constructive but we seem to have thrown out the baby with the bath water. On some issues I’m 100% for being closed minded. An extreme example, or what appears to be extreme today, is the idea that a man can become a woman. Utter nonsense and yet you have supposedly very educated people that can look you straight in the eyes and make this claim. Another not quite as obvious is that racism is a major problem in the U.S. As a “person of color” married to another “person of color” having lived among people of color all my life that is utter nonsense. But you have preachers of the racial divide and a willing media still talking as if it is 1950’s. I lived through the 1950’s, 60’s and 70’s in Harlem. This is NOT your grandfather’s 1950’s. None of my kids, grandkids or great grandkids (white, black and everything in between) gets away with telling me how racism is the major barrier holding them back from achieving their goals in life. Yes, you will still get a sideways look, a roll of the eyes and a racial slur from some but there are no structural racial roadblocks preventing them from graduating from college or advancing in a particular career. Is there an absolutely level playing field? No. I apologize that my last name isn’t Gates, Clinton, Obama or Trump. Being born into a family with a billion dollars or impressive political connections does help. Such is life. But I’m very much concerned about giving the government the power and control so they can attempt to make things fair and equitable. Their attempt usually ends up trampling on the rights of those they are claiming they’re trying to help. In 21st century America if you put in the work you will be rewarded. All the attempts to reap rewards without putting in the work has resulted in a country with failing infrastructure and $33 trillion in debt.
I remember seeing Tate explain why he should have some say in what his girlfriend wears. Basically saying that because he may have to defend her, he now has a stake in her clothing selection. I remember thinking that this is like a Dwight Schrute mentality. It’s not necessarily wrong, it’s just a really adolescent set of priorities. Andrew Tate (and even more so, his brother) just give me this little boy vibe. It’s funny because his whole thing is supposed to be masculinity, but I see a little boy when I look at him and listen to him speak.
The man has a responsibility to protect but has no authority over who he has to protect. One party is held to traditional norms while the other takes a dump on traditions. Make it make sense?
I 100% agree. I'm 52, and a product of a conservative father and compassionate conservative/socially more liberal mom from the 80's. A kind of version of Alex Keaton LMAO. listening to Tate is really like listening to hyper competitive teen whose been mainlining testosterone straight to the brain lmao!
@@oliversmith2129 Ok, first how fuckin' old are you dude? Thinking through dumb highly unlikely scenarios where you get to tell your girlfriend what to wear because ""i might have to kick some guys ass for hitting on you". Sorry man, if you can't see how fucking absurd this logic is, I can't help you young man (and if your actually older then me... uh.. ok .. WOW lmao). How about, this; If she does get hit on by some guy, you be the bigger and smarter guy and learn how to diffuse a situation instead of thinking your only option is to kick someone's ass. The real man knows WHEN to use violence when it's needed, and uses his brain first. Pretty much JBP in a nutshell. Get it? And, just in case you think it, I'm really not trying to be condescending here, just that .. wow dude. You GOTTA be like 18 to 20 something if your still stuck in the "Tate" mindset FR!
I get a different message than that. If a guy doesn't care about a woman, then he won't care very much what her behavior is like. But the opposite is true if he invests time and energy into her
@@tlz124 In general, I agree with your comment, but that doesn’t really matter because it doesn’t deal with the notion that a man has any say in what a woman wears. Whether he “cares” makes no difference. But the “defending her” concept wasn’t my understanding of Tate’s arguments.. they were a direct quote from him, so in the end those are just my thoughts on his comments.. which are the reasoning of a 15 year old.
I must agree with some of your audience when it comes to JP, I don't believe he has abandoned the youngman, I think one challange some have to face is taking that advice and putting it into practice. It's quite temting to keep looking for materials out there that will help you get better, you just have to take the first step and continue to walk even if sometimes it is not at the speed you wished. As for Sam's response to Trump's popularity I think it's more of a reaction to the overly protective mother spirit that's dooming the western world, when you impose a too kind and compassionate extreme people will run the other way. None of these extreme are good for us.
What happened to the fathers in the households. Why dont women respect men anymore. Why did men become weak. Why did the nuclear family collapse. The west is a matriachy at this point.
@@KD400_ hey, those are very good questions. I personally believe it's a missalignment with God, for women to obey and respect man Man has to submit and align with God. For a woman to understand her role and submit to her husband or father or any male authority she has to submit to Jesus. I know these can sound very oppressive words for woman but if you study them in the context of the Bible they actually understand they are not. Family is a church, it's the vital cell of a functioning society and it's Satan's number one target, it has always been. I think since the sexual revolution women believed (not all) that they can no longer take their role (and a big part of it is to keep a man's back) and man(possible because of pride) no longer obey God and try to be Kings where God placed them. Just some of my thoughts on your questions and I am sure I don't have the full answer
@@paulab9310 I'm guessing ur married urself right. U understand this much better than most people. Most people don't believe in God and they are lost. Theres alot of confusion amongst people.
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!* Allah himself testifies that he has a son and he is the son as Christians understand it! Only the Koran writer was too ignorant to know what Son of God means! Allah's word which created everything is Allah himself too! *The Word Allahs which created everything is the Son of God according to Christianity!*
Because he's a joke and produces bullshit content and shouldn't be that famous and important. It's like if Einstein knew all the names of the Kardashian.
Two comments: 1. I don't think that Andrew Tate is filling Jordan Peterson's hole. It;s hard to believe that the viewers of those two are the same. 2. Chris and Sam are clearly doing some "curls for the girls"! You should have arm wrestled instead of just talking!
Tate is simply a symptom a larger problem. With "social" media, many teenagers spend much of their time inside and never develop any meaningful relationships. This creates deep feelings of anger and resentment with many guys thinking they need to be over the top in order to get women and garner respect. It's literally the perfect storm for someone like Tate to capitalize on.
Yes. To me if a guy is too familiar with Andrew Tate it means he has far too much time on his hands. Social media is very damaging to men. It makes them less productive when they need to be working and building something.
You clearly are out of touch if you think young men aren't expected to do over the top things to get women, which makes me wonder about your age and social participation. There's actual studies that talk about women's delusional and high standards for men and on top of that these women aren't bringing much to the table. There is also a vast amount of issues that present so many challenges for men. Tate isn't popular for simple reasons, he is popular because he understands so many of the complexities that young men have to face in order to be active participants in this society.
Social media was also the perfect storm for Sam Harris and the New Atheist movement to convert teenagers to Scientism. Probably why so many people worship Fauci (aka the Hitler of aids) and absolve him of all his “sins”.
"... we develop behaviour patterns and emotional coping mechanisms to cover up the emptiness, mistakenly believing that the resulting traits represent our true "personality." Indeed, what we call the personality is often a jumble of genuine traits and adopted coping styles that do not reflect our true self at all but the loss of it." (Maté, 2008, p.394) - In The Realm of Hungry Ghosts Men (and women) need to be working on themselves in terms of their personality and personal growth, not just bank account and bed notch count. My take it that Tate is encouraging people to just push down their feelings and rely on coping mechanism (or Freudian defence mechanisms) so they can concentrate on material wealth and having women find you attractive. I don't think that makes for a happy life in the long run. I wish he advocated for facing personal problems (like a man?!) in therapy and going through actual growth rather than growth of the false self.
As a software engineer, the one thing that has been evident to me in my years is most people need something to follow. In my industry, every single person I have ever met or worked with who were genuinely exceptional at what they did, all used a particular skill that was endemic to only "their kind", and that was being able to know when to say "it depends" and knowing what to follow and when. Such terrible software has been built by many people I know that all completely failed to apply experience and critical problem solving skills to build a solution but swore by a bunch of frameworks and principles. My industry - just like society and many other industries - are completely infatuated with frameworks or ideas to follow because they feel like without them people completely descend to chaos. However, the truly exceptional people don't need such frameworks (or at least the ones most use) because they are able to operate without them because they can make those decisions on when to use them and what each give. This somewhat relates to what Sam has been arguing over the years with Religion with Peterson. Sam is the "exceptional" person who doesn't need religion to be a good person or succeed in society. However, as much as he likes to say religion isn't needed, the second you remove it, all of the non exceptional people will crumble into chaos - because some people (most) NEED something to follow as a framework or an order. Whether it be religion, veganism, political leanings, transgenderism or whatever "tribe" that has their things to follow. Tate for me is just another "tribe".
Well said. The trend of less people following traditional religious doctrine has left a void they they have an innate need to fill; today, it’s been filled with the religion of identity and gender ideology. In some ways, atheists should be able to see that they have gotten what they want; and it’s not a better replacement. I’m an atheist but I recognize guidance requires more than just breaking down habits,it always requires a plan to replace them.
You're a bad software engineer. I can tell that you don't understand the things you think you understand. Try working on your conciseness and listen when your superiors tell you what to do.
Well stated, friend. This also explains why it’s virtually impossible to have intelligent debate with religious people: Anything and anyone who questions the framework of their belief system is viewed as a personal attack, so they become emotional or reactive, instead of [being capable of ] holding their beliefs in mind AND still question what’s behind them. Closing irony: it’s far easier to be a blind follower (sheeple) than a critical, high-functioning stoic. -(someone who has lived on both sides of the argument)
He says some true things, and some untrue things. He also gives some good advice and some bad advice. Sam I think is definitely more intelligent and rational than someone like Andrew Tate by a good amount though. Andrew also doesn't see things from a clear rational point of view a lot of the time, but he wrongly thinks he does in various situations. Some of the things Andrew says as fact are just plain wrong as well, and really aren't based off anything, and he uses confirmation bias and motivated reasoning to wrongly support them. They both have their positives and negatives though. Sam gets too attached o his own viewpoints, and doesn't even consider the fact that another viewpoint could even be possible or useful, and while he's correct about the fact that almost all of the conspiracies are just nonsense, there are definitely situations when certain ones should be considered and may even be partially correct in certain instances, but Sam won't even partially admit that, which is why I actually don't think Sam is as rational as he thinks he is.
@lordphontaroy3592 How does that make sense? Sam not a primarily a political commentator just because you don't agree with him on politics which millions of people do agree with Sam on, it doesn't disregard his other work.
@lordphontaroy3592 you said " threw his intellect in trash " when he's being asked questions and he's just giving out his honest opinion breaking it down with logic you can disagree but that doesn't discredit his other work. Before this he did an interview with Jay Shetty where they don't talk about politics at all.
@soulseeker1729 no he's not. He uses snippets from evolutionary psychology and twists them so they align with hos beliefs. He's nit qualified nor does he have any learnt knowledge on the subjects that he talks about.
It’s interesting watching him judge Tate after saying he doesn’t know or hasn’t seem much about him. I just watched the interview on Candace Owens and it was very helpful to make sense of him. He seems smart and very ethically wise 🤔
The real irony is it's people like him that mock any foundation of morality and expects humans can just self regulate.. But still, Tate is an exceptionally horrible human being
He made his fortune using camwhores to scam millions of dollars out of desperate, lonely, depressed men. And then made a video course on how to do exactly that, and sold it. "ethically wise" are you fucking kidding me
Tate has a point when he mentioned that young boys find him cool and that's why they listen to him. Sam is a smart guy and speaks like it. If you view Sam from young boy's perspective, he wil more likely come across as boring. This means that his words will come across as meaningless to those that it's designed to help.
I discovered Sam at around the age of 15/16 and found him very interesting from the get go. If tate was around back then I would've thought exaclty what I think of him 10 years later.. The man doesn't have a single interesting thing to say, its all bravado and ego, and regurgitated self help stuff that's been said over and over again by much smarter and moral people than him. tate's appeal to young boys seems obvious to me, he puts the blame on others, allowing young boys to feel justified in their teenage rage, whether it be because of their lack of success with girls or any other common ailment of that age. Now, for the grown ass men who are actually fans of Tate, there's not much hope, I'm afraid.
@@tomassenadasilva710 His appeal compared to others is simply that he doesn't hold back when stating the obvious, which is apparently what you can't see for some reason. You must be stupid to not realize that, there is no way that Tate gained that much influence without saying some truth, not everything he say is pure garbage like you are trying hard to imply, that is why you can't get why he is listened
Can you exapatiate a bit on what you mean. What i've gotten from Tate's message is quite the opposite. It is to ultimately take responsibility for your outcomes. Whether the outcome is to own a bunch of bugattis or being comfortable with and in control of your reality. @@tomassenadasilva710
I for one would like to see Chris sit down with Andrew Tate. I don’t really care what Sam thinks of Andrew. He doesn’t have the pulse of young men about virtually anything. Chris could hold Andrew’s feet to the fire and ask good questions.
Who cares if Sam has the pulse of young men about anything? Sam doesn't market himself to just young men, his ideas are more general. Tate himself tries to market himself towards specifically weaker young men who he can influence and profit from, which is something he has admitted to before. He makes fun of the people that would actually pay money for his courses. In all fairness to Tate though, he is a reasonably intelligent guy with some good ideas for sure. I think he's' below Sam quite a bit in terms of intelligence and rationality, although Sam has some issues too, but pretty much everyone does.
The best answers come from within, hearing something said by someone else that resonates from within is how we pass on wisdom. Who we choose to listen to is always a reflection of how we feel inside. Thought leaders are placeholders for us not soing our own thinking
@@Lee-bv6iv oh, ok then. Thanks...rando on the internet who just declares things true or not and walks away like he's fucking god. gtoh with these useless "takes" already. smh.
@@loneranger7535 And it took even longer for a non-Trumpster to comment on a Trumpster mentioning how Sam mentioned Trump. C'mon, lets see how long we can play for!
@@loneranger7535I am Hispanic and not republican or democrat BS sides but I don't think trump is the worst president. Sam Harris is hypocrite paid by the Washington post
Despite being Buddhist, I used to refuse Sam Harris because I was hypnotized by Reza Aslan. Now, I love listening to Sam Harris, he has a great loving kindness and wisdom.
This guy regardless of what he thinks about anyone if anyone is pushing bettering yourself take the good from that, nobody is perfect and it’s the combination of good influences that hopefully get people to change for the better and be better people to themselves their families and society.
Nobody is perfect sure but there’s quite a distance between being merely imperfect and very likely being a sex trafficker. Either Tate is a sex trafficker or he’s just lying in all his old videos about his webcam business. I guess he could be lying , but people like Harris and Jordan Peterson despite all their imperfections managed to do self-help without trafficking women or pretending to traffic women to convince impressionable young men that they understand women and can give dating advice.
@@motorhead48067Andrew Tate engages in hyperbole, he can’t breathe without using hyperbole. To say “he’s lying” isn’t entirely accurate. He’s exaggerating, we all do it, he just does it more often. Sometimes you score a goal and say “I’m the best player in the world” or “you could never beat me in a 1 on 1” or some other mildly absurd statement, It’s an irresponsible statement, but in its correct context everyone knows that they don’t mean what would be the regular annotation of the statement. Andrew Tates deliberately alters his speech style on camera to be controversial in this way. Most people don’t know that his longest running career was in marketing, he does it to grab people’s attention. Andrew Tate is only good to listen to if you have critical thinking skills, and ability to recognise nuance
Can you get the apostate prophet on here to talk about the Candace Owens interview with Andrew Tate. He did a ton of research on the case and is very equipped to respond to the lies in that interview
@@samm9318 I don’t know what you are referring to about him lacking integrity. I haven’t seen anything to indicate he is not genuine. He light change his mind, but I have seen him lie
@@samm9318 I’ve not seen that from him. Though I know he can have a darker sense of humor, I’ve never seen him genuinely find joy in the death of innocence. If so, he is wrong to do so. However, I still appreciate the work he put into looking at the documents and evidence surrounding Tate’s arrest and bringing the truth in that case to the light
@@samm9318 I am looking through APs videos, and cannot find what you are talking about. That seems out of character though. (On an unrelated note, the one person who most mocks the pilgrims is Mohammed bin Salman. Hundreds of them die every year and all he does is cover it up. He has turned your holy city into a death trap.)
@@samm9318 people dying in mecca- these people have consented to it we dont care. You are engaging in ad hominems to discredit the messenger cause you dont like the message. So a bad faith argument. You shouldnt be taken seriously
Young men should be looking for insights from their parents, teachers, elders, and honest hard working folks around them. NOT Andrew Tate, not Jordan Peterson or even Chris Harris. I understand the always connected, internet, social media culture we live in, but the reality in the real world is different than what any RUclips channel screams about. Including yours, Chris. All of this is entertainment, not reality. That is the most important insight, that RUclips, and social media is just ENTERTAINMENT!
Hard to learn from parents when parents now rob the children of gender roles that they so badly need, and stopped rasing them properly. For 40+ years (feminism) daddy has been grovelling and simping at mommy's feet, giving her a free pass to act selfishly as a useless, self-serving and extremely redundant modern woman. She has absolutely NOTHING to offer to anyone other than herself, all the meanwhile taking everyone/thing for granted. With other words, daddy fails at playing his gender role and leading by example already at the first hurdle, not even able to act equal to mommy and hold her to account, defining her role and responisbilites, as she still defines his. Mommy thus also fails her gender role just the same, by no longer being feminine, maternal, not wearing the skirts, raising the kids properly, instead pretending to wear the trousers and be the same as a man, which no one ever needed from her, included the children. Boys and girls thus never really grow up. They never learn how to be masculine men and feminine women. Feminized men and masculinized women. A mish-mash of nothing. Men and women unable to appreciate each other, to depend on each other, to connect, unable to GIVE. Giving = responsibility = Love, so long as it is a two-way street. Why do you think there is such a thirst among young men for Tates and Petersons to begin with ?? They're looking for the "daddy-figure" they never sufficiently had. Young men face the consequences of their parents' seflishness and negligence far more than young women do, and at a much younger age, because life kicks them in the balls from the start, whereas women have a free pass and are not held to account. The women still potentially must pay the price as they age and fertility leaves them, broken by the promiscuous carousel and a life treating both themselves and huge numbers of men like garbage. They end up single mothers (in some extreme cases even childless) and forever lonely and unloved. Countless relationships, yes, on and off, but never loved. A lifetime of loneliness and failure. Because they have nothing to give. Narcissism and selfishness is all they have.
He says something reductionistic, heartless, and ultimately fascistic. The guy in an uncaring world who says you need to be more uncaring is not any type of guide, other than for the cynical enrichment of his own bank balance.
@@zootsoot2006For white people it is, why would we cate about other groups that hate us? You go care for Mtumbu who came here on a dingy with a IQ of 60 im saving up to leave rhis racial jungle
Sam Harris: I haven't met Andrew Tate or took a deep dive into his background or on what he's "guilty" of...but I will assume I am smart enough to judge a book by its cover and be right. It only took the first 10 seconds of this clip to know Sam knows nothing on Andrew Tate besides what others assume to know about him. That was a very non-intellectual approach.
I mean, Andrew Tate sold courses and gloats online in detail on how to manipulate, pimp out women, evade taxes with bitcoin, etc. He makes all his money from pimping across 12 or so properties in Romania. There are at least 80 pages of publicly available evidence outlining all his crimes that he self incriminates himself for. It's not exactly hard to see that Andrew Tate is a monster.
What? He clearly said "deep dive" and you now ignore all of his words which are true. He had watched his videos and knows he is in house arrest which are not light things.
One annoying thing about Trump is is that you can't turn on the television without hearing about the idiot. Him and Biden are both a complete mess at this point in there own ways, and those are likely the two morons we will have to choose for president. After 4 years we might have to choose between 2 80 year old useless men, rather than a younger more capable candidate with some intelligence and ability. Sam may talk too much about Trump, but it's hard to avoid Trump when it comes to the media.
Don't tell me you're comparing Sam Harris and Tate in term of compassion, Harris is much more than a political commentator.. Most of you guys love trump, not knowing how unself aware you guys are yourself.
Thank God this guy just spends his time talking about shit he doesn’t do, rather than take a point of leadership over potential men, which would never follow a Sam H.
Before watching, let me guess. Sam no longer uses rationale thought about Tate and views him as dangerous. He will also somehow tie it to his deranged irrational hate and fear of Trump
It's not irrational. Trump is a lunatic and a crazy person and anyone who doesn't see that is an NPC who is too busy projecting their own insecurities to realize they been conned by a thrice bankrupt reality tv star living on credit. All the signs are there. You just need to accept you were wrong and the world starts making sense again. You can get there.
A pimp with a big platform is dangerous, and he gave a short answer about why. Too self-absorbed and lacking in compassion. He did tie it to Trump, coherently. There are comparisons to be made between two self-absorbed men with great influence.
The problem with Sam is he acts like this really pragmatic, fair custodian of ethics, but he strawmans Tate's views and then ignores the objectively positive aspects of his message. But sam talks with a really calm voice tho so let's just all nod our heads.
You’re 100% correct. Harris talks about ethics and standards, but never shuts up about Trump, who he said he was willing to throw all laws, ethics and standards away just to keep out of office. Harris is morally bankrupt and is the opposite of wise.
My own positive opinion of Tate is less about the materialism and hyper-masculinity - it’s more about the fact he doesn’t cower and has some virtuous positions that he expresses boldly, unapologetically (and rather articulately)
Honestly, it's hard to take Sam seriously. Dude let's tribal political NARRATIVES overwhelm his "rational" mind. Mention Trump, and he goes off into unsubstantiated corporate tag lines and half-truths to justify jumping to conclusions. As I'm finishing typing this, he mentioned Trump. Here we go.
He said we need a "Perfect human being" Someone who has never fail, never make mistake, never been poor... to be our model. If that person exist, I wonder what he will teach us so we could consider him as model, maybe that person will told us how to reborn and live a perfect perfect life from the beginning. Most people will go the news and talk about what a model should be, but they themselves couldn't even thinks about their own opinion from a critical point of view. Do you Want to teach me how to get jacked, show me your body Want to teach me how to succeed , show me your failures Want to teach me how to become better, show me your mistakes. Imagine someone teaching you how to control yourself as man when he himself need a pill to feel whole. 😂
Andrew Tate gives me the creeps. There's something about him that is truly unsettling. I don't understand the appeal whatsoever. Luckily I don't run into many people in my circles who know who he is. But I would be very concerned if a guy I met embraced the standard of masculinity that Andrew Tate promotes.
Andrew Tate promotes a Taliban version of masculinity. In fact he has praised the Taliban on some occasions. Insecure men love this version of masculinity.
I'm 30 years old and agree with most of Tate's ideas. The nonsense that young inexperienced men are the target of his message is ludicrous. He is not perfect and I don't expect him to be but I don't see how we would rather not have him then have him there for men. He advocates more than anything self improvement for men and radical independence. He speaks of heartbroken men who have been left by their wives, purposely teenagers who sit and play video games all day, boys who prioritize women over themselves. Truth is we live in a society that prioritizes women over men and everyone is sick of that because believe or not, men are humans too. And most of these so called "wise" people that are speaking against Tate are people who have never been seen in public making an effort to improve the lives of men in any way. He is here criticizing Tate's ideologies yet withholding his own "wise" ones. He has never for a moment spoken against even the most obviously inequitable treatment of men in society yet he is here with his holier than thou attitude criticizing a man who is making an effort. How then should we listen to him when we don't know a single about his life. When has this man directly stood up for men?! And by which measure should we say that this man is wiser than Tate. I don't see how he can sit here and speak as an oracle of truth when Tate is better than him in every measurable way. I've seen Jordan Peterson criticize Tate as well yet he depressed out of his mind and raised a daughter with a host of mental issue and physical issues and a young divorcee. How are these people talking as something to look up to. Because JP, in my opinion, can learn a thing or two from Tate and I say this as somebody who loves JP. These people are mistaking timidity for wisdom. When this men goes home, he must then answer to his wife, he has a duty to preserve his own relationship and he would do that over your own interest.
Tate is a fraud man. He claims he is manly and lacks all manlihood; disrespects women, blames his faults on conspiracies, etc. Whines all the time about why man are not prioritized as women. Found himself in jail in Romania for making money out of webcam girls he abused. I mean you have to read a little to find much better 'ideologies' than Tate's.
I disagree with Sam Harris but he isn't Sam Seder. Seder is a malicious liar, while Harris simply weighs types of evidence differently than the traditionalists.
@@adamdrouin2295 yeah because this brain dead matrix commentary maps onto any video no matter the content. So brain dead that you can't understand that Trump (mentioned in the video you're commenting on) who was suppose to be a wrecking ball to the establishment was indisputably on the flight logs. Tate who says "I would never kill myself" could not conceive of a human trafficker killing themselves in prison with mountains of evidence hanging over their heads. Epstein wasn't the topic of the video. Speaks volumes you brought him up though herp derp.
More like, the infection created from the bruise (that had a cut) that he sustained without treating it quickly spred throughout his finger for months to the point where the finger could not function and the damage to it was irreparable. The doctor of the patient then recommends the immediate removal of said finger in order to save the patient from further health complications. In a just society, we jail admitted and provable sex traffickers, such as the Tate's and their accomplices. Having some good takes for incels to follow doesn't mean shit. Nobody gives a damn that Hitler loved dogs and was vegetarian, just like how no one cares that he provided some helpful advice (in a sea of shit ones, courtesy of him).
The real question is, why would anyone care about with Sam Harris things anymore? He’s proven himself to be in capable of admitting when he’s wrong. He will bend reality to suit his own opinions. Why does anyone care with someone like that thinks?
Whether or not Tate is the perfect role mode or not. One thing is for sure. They are more focused on bringing down Tate than the agendas and things that are really detrimental to society. If they put the same effort into trying to cancel porn industry or stop other agendas which are affecting young men or even educating young men. I’m sure Thst would be energy better spent.
Sam def has been to that TRT clinic. Hell yea, good for him On a more serious note. “It’s a book. It was clearly written be human beings”. The fact that this is actually not just not obvious, but blasphemous to say to some people is sad and astounding. It’s time to grow up folks. It has run its course and become an anchor on progress and society’s growth
@@HeathCliff95 decent men can decide on their own what they want to be, stop telling what men should be Do you go out on the street telling women to be good women? Weirdo
To Sam's constant dismissal of Christianity, I have to say that I've met many people whose lives have been transformed by the Bible and God. I've yet to meet the same effect to someone who became an atheist.
I'm sure believing in fairies and unicorns radically changes your life. Becoming an atheist isn't as glamorous but listen to the testimonies of many former believers on yt. Realizing you were wrong or misled most of your life can be a liberating experience.
A lot of my friends who became atheists felt an unbearable burden lifted off their shoulders and said it majorly transformed their mental health and happiness for the better.
@@richardmccabe2392Great anecdotal evidence that doesnt help anyone since you made it up Atheists have the highest suicde rates of any group but they were relieved mentally when they learned we are all just bacteria in a pond evolved to this😂 i
@@richardmccabe2392 Yeah, that is why the suicide rate and the highest use of antidepressants are among the atheists. Don't believe me? Check the statistics yourself.
I think the problem is that there's a vast proliferation of opinion - which everyone IS entitled to - which simply isn't worth shit. There's a huge number of people selling intellectual snake oil without conscience because they can, because it's profitable, and because there's no real consequences so, somehow, they become a topic of "discussion". Most people are somewhere on the Alex Jones sliding scale of "journalism" around this. Andrew Tate - POS or victim or both? Everyone chime in or pile on but is Andrew Tate really worth the time or trouble just because we can talk about him?
This isnt ground breaking stuff that hes saying here, but from listening to sam speak in other podcasts, you can tell the guy is VERY intelligent, he pretty much described these topics spot on
There’s a difference between not following his legal case or his content super closely and not understanding the person at all. You don’t have to be a Tate subscriber to know that Tate is selling a very shallow and materialistic version of self help that is based very heavily on dominating others. Do you disagree with anything Harris said? Was he wrong on any of that?
@@motorhead48067 completely wrong, which anyone would understand when they have an understanding of what Tate is actually about by watching long form unedited content. Not mashups on tiktok created to portray a particular bias.
Sam Harris is so full of himself it's ridiculous. He doesn't even see it himself. He is doing the exact same thing to the people he talks about that he says they are doing to other people.
this is why andrew tate has a following cause he is straight with his words if you ask andrew tate was his opinion of sam harris he would finished in the first 1 minutes is he right no or yes but his simple and thats what most people understand
I agree with Sam in the sense that it is good to understand and acknowledge that any religious text has reen written by a human.. As enlightened as that human might have been they were still human with their own lense of life, their own personal views and biases. I also agree that there is wisdom to be found in all of these teachings however we put ourselves on a slippery slope when we start putting these texts on pedestals or taking them literally.
@@fox1actual Trump is a traitor to American democracy and anyone who still supports him has not been following the plot. The man refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power for months before even a single vote was cast. January 6th was the obvious outcome from this cult leader and his cult following.
@@fox1actualIt says something about your process that that's the way you evaluate opinions & people. One quote. You have someone like Sam, who's exceptionally well spoken, well read, and who has truly dedicated much of his life to becoming a more ethical person, and one line is all it takes to undo that? The world where everyone judges others like that is one where there are no gradients of better and worse answers, little learning is done, and everyone is just waiting to scream at (and lynch, if we look at human history) the next person who fucks up. It's dismal.
I've done my fair share of listening and investigation in to the tate brothers and while i dont agree with everything they have said or do, they arent actually bad in my opinion, people have this ridiculous idea of them because of the clips that get posted with them talking about having certain types of things and without the context and see what they are actually about I really feel they could be the most misunderstood people on the internet right now. I think a large part of the controversiality was engineered in a way to gain views and comments so that people got talking about them, but if you bother to listen to the long form podcasts with them youll quickly realise they aren't bad at all in my opinion.
They’re hateful, shallow criminals and the worst of compilation should be enough to condemn them. Everyone becomes tolerable when you listen to them long enough.
That is EXACTLY how Tate is. A shamelessly toxic and selfish asshole who knows exactly what he's doing and how to manipulate young boys to acting like he does.
Harris, in the first 20 seconds you say that you havent done a deep dive on Tate, yet amazingly you unequivocally support his guilt followed by the claim that there's 'obviously something wrong with him'. Wow, what contrast - and so quickly! Perhaps you performed exactly the amount of research you felt was requisite on this topic? By my estimations, your perspecrive might contain what the cult-dinks in HR pontificate about as, 'unscious bias'?
how is he a good guy whes he litteraly admitted to his loverboy manipulation scheme? Sure hes not as bad as the media makes him, but he aint good either.
None of my mates or acquaintances are contaminated with any of tates advice. Its opened our eyes. We still love guys like jordan peterson etc. But Tate has different messages jordan doesnt talk about. Be high value guy, work on yourself in all areas, have strong boundaries. Tate goes into specifics, down to the principle and action to take around everyone in your life - men and women. Business insights etc. So much more relatable advice. He's also funny as hell and most his shit is just jokes. But there is also some truth to those jokes.
@@musiclassica Yeah I think as soon as people hear something they don’t like or don’t agree with they instantly get emotional and close off their ability to think rationally
and treat women like shit have them work as sex slaves working as webcam sluts take 99% of their earnings and spend it on yourself and your brother, who doesn't want their sons to grow up just like that
The more I listen to Sam Harris, the more I feel he is not that intelligent in certain aspects. Maybe he can dismantle religion brilliantly, but he bends the knee quite easily to the modern religion of "feminism", hence speaking that language. The way he uses the word "assh@le" for Tate sounds like a leftist emotional outburst, instead of some clear nuanced intelligent thought process. It's is quite clear that there is a vacuum in masculinity in the modern world, and anybody with two eyes can see that. As they say, in the world of the blind, the one eyed man is king. There are far better (and dare I say) intellectual ways to criticize Tate.
Simply put: Tate wraps his positive message inside quite a bit of bullshit messages. How many times do I have to hear Tate say "I would never kill myself" before I want to kill myself. Look no further than interviews of the women Tate has dated to understand why he says women are the weaker sex. Sure he says some positive things for men but there are plenty of men doing this already and aren't as clumsy or near sighted about it. Tate is an opportunist and entertaining, FINE! Tate is not saying anything original or profound.
Hello you legends. Watch the full 3+ hour episode with Sam here - ruclips.net/video/carZ3_02-Xg/видео.html
Man this guy is a fricken joke. This guy has serious issues.
20 something thumbs up. people love this content. have him on again.
It was more of what does sam think about dr Peterson than Andrew tate
@@patrino LOOOOL Betamale sheep 🐑
The problem with Jordan Peterson is that he became a man more interested in being right than in speaking truth. It may have been his battle with addiction that sent him there. But there he remains...at present.
Regardless of your opinion on Tate. The question shouldn't be whether or not he is right or wrong, good or bad. The question should be, What is missing in peoples lives and our culture that means that a charcter like Tate has such a following?
Exactly!
You think it requires a deep analysis to answer this question?
You're absolutely right
I think he speaks to that materially-obsessed part of young men who all want to be driving luxury sports cars and having flings with hot women. The guy might be a jerk but he flaunts a lifestyle that many wish they had.
@@Zodemus On the surface I don't think it's a particularly difficult question to answer. But there are definitely some deep cultural issues relating to it that could be discussed.
Cool that you are interviewing him in a James Bond torture room.
Haha yeah they should have some implements lying around.
LMAO I thought the same thing
😂😂Good one!! Looks super uncomfortable the chairs look like they came straight from Casino Royale.
Interesting that that's what you got out of this clip.
It's Sam's basement where he keeps the bodies presumably....
“Intellect is not wisdom.” - Thomas Sowell
Nor is education ❤
“Quoting Thomas Sowell makes you neither intellectually superior nor correct.” -Genghis fuckin’ Khan
@@Kinsman19 “That may be true but Sam has neither the intellect or wisdom.” -Fuckin’ Kahn Noonien Singh
“Get in my Belly!” - Fat Bastard: Austin Powers.
Tate has more life experiences than you.
Its the widespread dismal level of parenting that has teenagers and young men seeking mentors outside of their father.
Any father that has been affected by family court is also an Andrew Tate fan.
Exactly
This comment need to be pinned 💯
This is the correct answer
Which can also prob be traced to poor societal values
JP left a vacuum? Did I get that right?
He’s left tons of material, take it & use it.
We actually don’t need endless advice, we need implementation of what we already know. Making content is more for the content maker than it is for need, often. Let’s appreciate JP for not indulging in that temptation.
Well said
I personally think that Peterson did leave vacuum. The problem with current internet and the flow of informations is that people no longer look at stuff that was uploaded ages ago even if the quality far surpasses the newer content. It's content machine and algorithms. JBP is way healthier for men than Andrew but Andrew is talking to lonely men now even if it's just for his personal benefit.
@@vvvvkkkvvv agreed
perfectly stated
Sam is sad, that JP is faaar more pop and smart than him.. And even better looking...
I really wish Christopher Hitchens was still with us, so we could listen to his views on the state of society.
Hitchens would have a field day on the woke nonsense for sure.
Ditto.
I’m sure most of his views would align with Gad Saad. But Hitchens delivery was absolutely top notch.
@@makatron I can see a video, where he's skeet shooting woke clay pigeons with a huuuge machine gun, so the air is like fog with pink clay dust..
Listen to Dawkins and you’ll know what Hitchens would say
"Nothing more dangerous than the ignorance of the intelligent" Thomas Sowell
This guy is not intelligent. Just a pseudo intellect like most leftist clown s
ironic quote
Perfect explanation
“Nothing more cringeworthy than a sheeplike Trump or Tate sycophant, who think they’re morally or intellectually superior, posting Thomas Sowell Quotes” -Robin-fuckin’-Hood (1523)
@@ferdia748you spelled iconic wrong.
My new favourite quote "it should be more obvious to more people that someone's an asshole" Sooo true
He just a snowflake.
Exactly how I feel when I see plebs worshipping Sam 😂
The irony of this coming from Sam Harris is how he talks about Muslims and their faith.
@@MaseTheMeninist the lamest and also incoherent shit i have read in while
@@omara6292I think Sam means it should be obvious when someone is an a hole according to Sam. Apparently dead kids and thwarting the democratic process don't matter as long as he gets his way.
Still, the best way is to find answers in this chaotic world is to operate with a critical mind. You can take pieces of wisdom from anyone who has done something positive. The message that Andrew Tate is giving was and still given by J.Peterson, David Goggins, Jocko Wilinck, Andy Frisella, Bedros Keullian, Patric Bet David and many more in much better way. We can clearly see that most of the young men who follow Tate's advice are operating from a reaction position rather than rational thinking.
Maybe you haven't been introduced to Joe Biden, lol, but I completely agree.
how did you come to that conclusion, is there a possibility that your analysis is wrong? who decided which is the better way?
@@sixtyninefromsixtonine I've seen a video of tate saying that if he is arguing wether 2+2 is 4 or 5 and he says its 5 because he can beat the shit out of someone who says is 4 (rightfully so) and then asks who is right. so even though 4 is the answer, the fact that he can beat the pulp out of someone and proclaim he's right by force is no way near of being better at counselling people.
@@AstheaTV i only criticise tate because he could deliver the same message in a totally different way. jordan doesnt condone bullying as way to show your masculinity or intelligence or integrity. you should be capable of force but know when to use it, and when not to use it, not to force an invalid point or fact just because you can enforce it. dictators and mentally unstable people do that. tate is like a broken clock, I've heard valid points but the way he sells his lifestyle, his product or his persona is too... wwe. i earn more and I can kick ass of most people i know. id never use that to belittle or dominate some other person. its just an ugly and toxic way to make yourself respected. before i explored the lore of tate, i liked him pushing back some entitled toxic feminists... but the more i researched the more i lost respect for him. i used the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen from him sure, but ill never respect that from any person. he can kill me and id never say that 4+4=5. if he's right he's right, wether he can kick my ass or not. that mentallity shows exactly the opposite he thinks, just shows weakness and a hurt and vengeful ego. like all tyrants that ruled masses in history.
@@AstheaTV what is your interpretation of that example? Exctly, I understand being provocative when your represent yourself. Media around an athlete, a fighter or some other profession that depends of some kind of public attention for shock value or recognition longevity, is always “good”, I hate it but I understand the why… that’s why I won’t ever defend it.
The pendulum swings back and forth. When everything became offensive being an asshole became attractive to people. When being an asshole gets played out, empathy will come back in style.
I wish human break from that cycle and actually come with the balance of both empathy and logic
The reason why everything became offensive to so many is because men have become weak and emasculated
I would like to think the pendulum swings on how we value leadership. History tells us otherwise... and they don't endorse empathy in business schools. The courses taught on Power are all about showing Strategic Anger and navigating politics.
I’m 70 years old. Andrew Tate is abrasive in his approach which by itself turns some people off to the point where they can’t hear the message. This is similar to the issue some folks have with Jordan Peterson. However their fundamental message is very true. The role of masculine men in society has been marginalized. There is a pseudo sophistication in our society that doesn’t see the need for strong, tough, aggressive men. That mentality even feeds into this fluid gender identity mythology. Equality, equality, inclusion, open minded, diversity and all the other buzzwords are an attempt to blur the lines of social norms that have existed for thousands of years. Not all of those norms are relevant or constructive but we seem to have thrown out the baby with the bath water. On some issues I’m 100% for being closed minded. An extreme example, or what appears to be extreme today, is the idea that a man can become a woman. Utter nonsense and yet you have supposedly very educated people that can look you straight in the eyes and make this claim. Another not quite as obvious is that racism is a major problem in the U.S. As a “person of color” married to another “person of color” having lived among people of color all my life that is utter nonsense. But you have preachers of the racial divide and a willing media still talking as if it is 1950’s. I lived through the 1950’s, 60’s and 70’s in Harlem. This is NOT your grandfather’s 1950’s. None of my kids, grandkids or great grandkids (white, black and everything in between) gets away with telling me how racism is the major barrier holding them back from achieving their goals in life. Yes, you will still get a sideways look, a roll of the eyes and a racial slur from some but there are no structural racial roadblocks preventing them from graduating from college or advancing in a particular career. Is there an absolutely level playing field? No. I apologize that my last name isn’t Gates, Clinton, Obama or Trump. Being born into a family with a billion dollars or impressive political connections does help. Such is life. But I’m very much concerned about giving the government the power and control so they can attempt to make things fair and equitable. Their attempt usually ends up trampling on the rights of those they are claiming they’re trying to help. In 21st century America if you put in the work you will be rewarded. All the attempts to reap rewards without putting in the work has resulted in a country with failing infrastructure and $33 trillion in debt.
loved this
Very well said, than you for your inspirational writing!
Dad put it best: "nobody owes you anything son"
Thank you for sharing
Clear, concise and logical 💪
I remember seeing Tate explain why he should have some say in what his girlfriend wears. Basically saying that because he may have to defend her, he now has a stake in her clothing selection. I remember thinking that this is like a Dwight Schrute mentality. It’s not necessarily wrong, it’s just a really adolescent set of priorities. Andrew Tate (and even more so, his brother) just give me this little boy vibe. It’s funny because his whole thing is supposed to be masculinity, but I see a little boy when I look at him and listen to him speak.
The man has a responsibility to protect but has no authority over who he has to protect.
One party is held to traditional norms while the other takes a dump on traditions.
Make it make sense?
I 100% agree. I'm 52, and a product of a conservative father and compassionate conservative/socially more liberal mom from the 80's. A kind of version of Alex Keaton LMAO. listening to Tate is really like listening to hyper competitive teen whose been mainlining testosterone straight to the brain lmao!
@@oliversmith2129 Ok, first how fuckin' old are you dude? Thinking through dumb highly unlikely scenarios where you get to tell your girlfriend what to wear because ""i might have to kick some guys ass for hitting on you". Sorry man, if you can't see how fucking absurd this logic is, I can't help you young man (and if your actually older then me... uh.. ok .. WOW lmao). How about, this; If she does get hit on by some guy, you be the bigger and smarter guy and learn how to diffuse a situation instead of thinking your only option is to kick someone's ass. The real man knows WHEN to use violence when it's needed, and uses his brain first. Pretty much JBP in a nutshell. Get it? And, just in case you think it, I'm really not trying to be condescending here, just that .. wow dude. You GOTTA be like 18 to 20 something if your still stuck in the "Tate" mindset FR!
I get a different message than that. If a guy doesn't care about a woman, then he won't care very much what her behavior is like. But the opposite is true if he invests time and energy into her
@@tlz124 In general, I agree with your comment, but that doesn’t really matter because it doesn’t deal with the notion that a man has any say in what a woman wears. Whether he “cares” makes no difference. But the “defending her” concept wasn’t my understanding of Tate’s arguments.. they were a direct quote from him, so in the end those are just my thoughts on his comments.. which are the reasoning of a 15 year old.
I must agree with some of your audience when it comes to JP, I don't believe he has abandoned the youngman, I think one challange some have to face is taking that advice and putting it into practice. It's quite temting to keep looking for materials out there that will help you get better, you just have to take the first step and continue to walk even if sometimes it is not at the speed you wished. As for Sam's response to Trump's popularity I think it's more of a reaction to the overly protective mother spirit that's dooming the western world, when you impose a too kind and compassionate extreme people will run the other way. None of these extreme are good for us.
Right on!
What happened to the fathers in the households. Why dont women respect men anymore. Why did men become weak. Why did the nuclear family collapse. The west is a matriachy at this point.
@@KD400_ hey, those are very good questions. I personally believe it's a missalignment with God, for women to obey and respect man Man has to submit and align with God. For a woman to understand her role and submit to her husband or father or any male authority she has to submit to Jesus. I know these can sound very oppressive words for woman but if you study them in the context of the Bible they actually understand they are not. Family is a church, it's the vital cell of a functioning society and it's Satan's number one target, it has always been. I think since the sexual revolution women believed (not all) that they can no longer take their role (and a big part of it is to keep a man's back) and man(possible because of pride) no longer obey God and try to be Kings where God placed them. Just some of my thoughts on your questions and I am sure I don't have the full answer
@@paulab9310 I'm guessing ur married urself right. U understand this much better than most people. Most people don't believe in God and they are lost. Theres alot of confusion amongst people.
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
Allah himself testifies that he has a son and he is the son as Christians understand it! Only the Koran writer was too ignorant to know what Son of God means! Allah's word which created everything is Allah himself too! *The Word Allahs which created everything is the Son of God according to Christianity!*
Harris even knowing that Andrew Tate exists breaks my heart a little.
shut up nerd
Why?
Because he's a joke and produces bullshit content and shouldn't be that famous and important.
It's like if Einstein knew all the names of the Kardashian.
That's sad as fuck ngl
They are both grifters lol
The production of these podcasts are on a different level Chris.
It are?
Two comments:
1. I don't think that Andrew Tate is filling Jordan Peterson's hole. It;s hard to believe that the viewers of those two are the same.
2. Chris and Sam are clearly doing some "curls for the girls"! You should have arm wrestled instead of just talking!
Tate is simply a symptom a larger problem. With "social" media, many teenagers spend much of their time inside and never develop any meaningful relationships.
This creates deep feelings of anger and resentment with many guys thinking they need to be over the top in order to get women and garner respect.
It's literally the perfect storm for someone like Tate to capitalize on.
Yes. To me if a guy is too familiar with Andrew Tate it means he has far too much time on his hands. Social media is very damaging to men. It makes them less productive when they need to be working and building something.
You clearly are out of touch if you think young men aren't expected to do over the top things to get women, which makes me wonder about your age and social participation. There's actual studies that talk about women's delusional and high standards for men and on top of that these women aren't bringing much to the table. There is also a vast amount of issues that present so many challenges for men.
Tate isn't popular for simple reasons, he is popular because he understands so many of the complexities that young men have to face in order to be active participants in this society.
Social media was also the perfect storm for Sam Harris and the New Atheist movement to convert teenagers to Scientism. Probably why so many people worship Fauci (aka the Hitler of aids) and absolve him of all his “sins”.
it's for men who want women, not A woman. A woman, the kind of woman who won't fall for a bugatti and the kind of woman a man can build a life with.
"... we develop behaviour patterns and emotional coping mechanisms to cover up the emptiness, mistakenly believing that the resulting traits represent our true "personality." Indeed, what we call the personality is often a jumble of genuine traits and adopted coping styles that do not reflect our true self at all but the loss of it." (Maté, 2008, p.394)
- In The Realm of Hungry Ghosts
Men (and women) need to be working on themselves in terms of their personality and personal growth, not just bank account and bed notch count. My take it that Tate is encouraging people to just push down their feelings and rely on coping mechanism (or Freudian defence mechanisms) so they can concentrate on material wealth and having women find you attractive. I don't think that makes for a happy life in the long run. I wish he advocated for facing personal problems (like a man?!) in therapy and going through actual growth rather than growth of the false self.
As a software engineer, the one thing that has been evident to me in my years is most people need something to follow. In my industry, every single person I have ever met or worked with who were genuinely exceptional at what they did, all used a particular skill that was endemic to only "their kind", and that was being able to know when to say "it depends" and knowing what to follow and when. Such terrible software has been built by many people I know that all completely failed to apply experience and critical problem solving skills to build a solution but swore by a bunch of frameworks and principles. My industry - just like society and many other industries - are completely infatuated with frameworks or ideas to follow because they feel like without them people completely descend to chaos. However, the truly exceptional people don't need such frameworks (or at least the ones most use) because they are able to operate without them because they can make those decisions on when to use them and what each give.
This somewhat relates to what Sam has been arguing over the years with Religion with Peterson. Sam is the "exceptional" person who doesn't need religion to be a good person or succeed in society. However, as much as he likes to say religion isn't needed, the second you remove it, all of the non exceptional people will crumble into chaos - because some people (most) NEED something to follow as a framework or an order. Whether it be religion, veganism, political leanings, transgenderism or whatever "tribe" that has their things to follow. Tate for me is just another "tribe".
Well said. The trend of less people following traditional religious doctrine has left a void they they have an innate need to fill; today, it’s been filled with the religion of identity and gender ideology. In some ways, atheists should be able to see that they have gotten what they want; and it’s not a better replacement. I’m an atheist but I recognize guidance requires more than just breaking down habits,it always requires a plan to replace them.
What makes someone a 'good person'
This is exactly what it’s about. Yet none of the Tate/trump fans and sam haters have the cognitive capacity to think this far ahead
You're a bad software engineer. I can tell that you don't understand the things you think you understand. Try working on your conciseness and listen when your superiors tell you what to do.
Well stated, friend. This also explains why it’s virtually impossible to have intelligent debate with religious people:
Anything and anyone who questions the framework of their belief system is viewed as a personal attack, so they become emotional or reactive, instead of [being capable of ] holding their beliefs in mind AND still question what’s behind them.
Closing irony: it’s far easier to be a blind follower (sheeple) than a critical, high-functioning stoic.
-(someone who has lived on both sides of the argument)
“I’ve seen enough of his content” is always the tell. Translation: “I’ve seen a few tik toks from my explore tab and formed an opinion”
A simple process for evaluating opinions is always the tell. Either of irritated dismissiveness, stupidity, ignorance or of dogmatic beliefs.
Well the more I've seen the more that opinion has formed within my head.
@@hannao139 All the clips are out of context Hannah. I am positive if you watched the full context you would agree he argues his points well.
@@hannao139All out of context great job Hannah😂
Sam used to be spot on with issues. Not so much now. Who cares who’s an A-hole? I only care what’s true. And Tate says some true things.
He says some true things, and some untrue things. He also gives some good advice and some bad advice. Sam I think is definitely more intelligent and rational than someone like Andrew Tate by a good amount though. Andrew also doesn't see things from a clear rational point of view a lot of the time, but he wrongly thinks he does in various situations. Some of the things Andrew says as fact are just plain wrong as well, and really aren't based off anything, and he uses confirmation bias and motivated reasoning to wrongly support them. They both have their positives and negatives though. Sam gets too attached o his own viewpoints, and doesn't even consider the fact that another viewpoint could even be possible or useful, and while he's correct about the fact that almost all of the conspiracies are just nonsense, there are definitely situations when certain ones should be considered and may even be partially correct in certain instances, but Sam won't even partially admit that, which is why I actually don't think Sam is as rational as he thinks he is.
@lordphontaroy3592 How does that make sense? Sam not a primarily a political commentator just because you don't agree with him on politics which millions of people do agree with Sam on, it doesn't disregard his other work.
@lordphontaroy3592 you said " threw his intellect in trash " when he's being asked questions and he's just giving out his honest opinion breaking it down with logic you can disagree but that doesn't discredit his other work. Before this he did an interview with Jay Shetty where they don't talk about politics at all.
@soulseeker1729 no he's not. He uses snippets from evolutionary psychology and twists them so they align with hos beliefs. He's nit qualified nor does he have any learnt knowledge on the subjects that he talks about.
@@mrp9023 He makes a lotta sense on Religion. He isn't great with politics.
It’s interesting watching him judge Tate after saying he doesn’t know or hasn’t seem much about him. I just watched the interview on Candace Owens and it was very helpful to make sense of him. He seems smart and very ethically wise 🤔
The real irony is it's people like him that mock any foundation of morality and expects humans can just self regulate..
But still, Tate is an exceptionally horrible human being
tate is a salesman and good at sounding convincing.
Yeah? Well go watch the things that he’s said about women or about his experiences with trafficking them. You’ll see how “ethical” Tate is then.
He made his fortune using camwhores to scam millions of dollars out of desperate, lonely, depressed men. And then made a video course on how to do exactly that, and sold it. "ethically wise" are you fucking kidding me
@@sirrys ehhem _*puts on glasses_
FAKE. its aaaallll fake! The Matrix! BIDEN! REEEEeeeEEEE
Tate has a point when he mentioned that young boys find him cool and that's why they listen to him. Sam is a smart guy and speaks like it. If you view Sam from young boy's perspective, he wil more likely come across as boring. This means that his words will come across as meaningless to those that it's designed to help.
Sam is also not smart, his takes are mediocre to say the least
And his stance on covid vaccination was damn near Zionistic facism
I discovered Sam at around the age of 15/16 and found him very interesting from the get go. If tate was around back then I would've thought exaclty what I think of him 10 years later.. The man doesn't have a single interesting thing to say, its all bravado and ego, and regurgitated self help stuff that's been said over and over again by much smarter and moral people than him. tate's appeal to young boys seems obvious to me, he puts the blame on others, allowing young boys to feel justified in their teenage rage, whether it be because of their lack of success with girls or any other common ailment of that age. Now, for the grown ass men who are actually fans of Tate, there's not much hope, I'm afraid.
@@tomassenadasilva710 His appeal compared to others is simply that he doesn't hold back when stating the obvious, which is apparently what you can't see for some reason.
You must be stupid to not realize that, there is no way that Tate gained that much influence without saying some truth, not everything he say is pure garbage like you are trying hard to imply, that is why you can't get why he is listened
Sams also a beta energy doesn’t lie why would young men want to follow this weakling
Can you exapatiate a bit on what you mean. What i've gotten from Tate's message is quite the opposite. It is to ultimately take responsibility for your outcomes. Whether the outcome is to own a bunch of bugattis or being comfortable with and in control of your reality. @@tomassenadasilva710
I for one would like to see Chris sit down with Andrew Tate. I don’t really care what Sam thinks of Andrew. He doesn’t have the pulse of young men about virtually anything. Chris could hold Andrew’s feet to the fire and ask good questions.
Who cares if Sam has the pulse of young men about anything? Sam doesn't market himself to just young men, his ideas are more general. Tate himself tries to market himself towards specifically weaker young men who he can influence and profit from, which is something he has admitted to before. He makes fun of the people that would actually pay money for his courses. In all fairness to Tate though, he is a reasonably intelligent guy with some good ideas for sure. I think he's' below Sam quite a bit in terms of intelligence and rationality, although Sam has some issues too, but pretty much everyone does.
Tate is nowhere near the intellect of Sam Harris. And tate targets young men sam harris doesn't.
@@theemperor4901 Based on what? You sound like a mindless fanboy to claims that.
The best answers come from within, hearing something said by someone else that resonates from within is how we pass on wisdom. Who we choose to listen to is always a reflection of how we feel inside. Thought leaders are placeholders for us not soing our own thinking
Initially, this kinda sounds clever and insightful. But it's not, is it. It's just bollocks.
@@Lee-bv6iv me or sam Harris? Lol
@@matthewsilfer2010 Look within, you'll find the answer to your question.
@@Lee-bv6ivWhy is it bollocks? It sounds like a pretty decent angle on why people gravitate to the people (and ideas) that they do.
@@Lee-bv6iv oh, ok then. Thanks...rando on the internet who just declares things true or not and walks away like he's fucking god. gtoh with these useless "takes" already. smh.
He went over 3 minutes in this clip before mentioning Trump. That's great progress from Sam.
Trumpian, trumpy, trump trump
Took sometime more from a Tumpster to comment on Sam mentioning Trump
@@loneranger7535 And it took even longer for a non-Trumpster to comment on a Trumpster mentioning how Sam mentioned Trump. C'mon, lets see how long we can play for!
@@loneranger7535I am Hispanic and not republican or democrat BS sides but I don't think trump is the worst president. Sam Harris is hypocrite paid by the Washington post
Best case scenario nobody ever has to mention Trump ever again in all of human history.
Sam Harris built some muscle.
I was looking if anyone else was going to acknowledge that Sam looks way better than we thought he would.
Right?! He's looking great!
Yes, Sam “Jacked” Harris. First thing I noticed, he takes the concept of Mind, Body and Spirit seriously to get to a new level of excellence.
The only thing I care less than Andrew Tate is other people's opinions of Andrew Tate
I don’t care how much you care about how much people care about Tate.
Good thing there's much else to this clip, then.
Then why are you here?
Only broken and weak men get attracted to him and the likes of him. Loser
Yet you clicked and commented😂
Tate is an icon for the plebs. Hyper macho smooth talking materialistic cliche. Fast food hero.
couldn't have put it better myself 👍
Despite being Buddhist, I used to refuse Sam Harris because I was hypnotized by Reza Aslan. Now, I love listening to Sam Harris, he has a great loving kindness and wisdom.
/s.
fixed it for you
Makes sense, Sam used to study with Buddhist monks and I've always gotten the impression that he cares about people.
Listen to his vaccine facism or his 'i dont care about blatant corruption because its Biden'
@@richardmccabe2392Especially vaccinating them with his Jewish buddies fake vaccine
This guy regardless of what he thinks about anyone if anyone is pushing bettering yourself take the good from that, nobody is perfect and it’s the combination of good influences that hopefully get people to change for the better and be better people to themselves their families and society.
Nobody is perfect sure but there’s quite a distance between being merely imperfect and very likely being a sex trafficker. Either Tate is a sex trafficker or he’s just lying in all his old videos about his webcam business. I guess he could be lying , but people like Harris and Jordan Peterson despite all their imperfections managed to do self-help without trafficking women or pretending to traffic women to convince impressionable young men that they understand women and can give dating advice.
@@motorhead48067 wow, that was very well put😅
That's like insisting diarrhea burritos are healthy and nutritious because someone put a few leaves of lettuce in it
@motorhead48067 do you have irrefutable evidence on the trafficking claim?
@@motorhead48067Andrew Tate engages in hyperbole, he can’t breathe without using hyperbole.
To say “he’s lying” isn’t entirely accurate.
He’s exaggerating, we all do it, he just does it more often.
Sometimes you score a goal and say “I’m the best player in the world” or “you could never beat me in a 1 on 1” or some other mildly absurd statement,
It’s an irresponsible statement, but in its correct context everyone knows that they don’t mean what would be the regular annotation of the statement.
Andrew Tates deliberately alters his speech style on camera to be controversial in this way.
Most people don’t know that his longest running career was in marketing, he does it to grab people’s attention.
Andrew Tate is only good to listen to if you have critical thinking skills, and ability to recognise nuance
Can you get the apostate prophet on here to talk about the Candace Owens interview with Andrew Tate. He did a ton of research on the case and is very equipped to respond to the lies in that interview
@@samm9318 A “beta” with integrity is better than a liar
@@samm9318 I don’t know what you are referring to about him lacking integrity. I haven’t seen anything to indicate he is not genuine. He light change his mind, but I have seen him lie
@@samm9318 I’ve not seen that from him. Though I know he can have a darker sense of humor, I’ve never seen him genuinely find joy in the death of innocence. If so, he is wrong to do so. However, I still appreciate the work he put into looking at the documents and evidence surrounding Tate’s arrest and bringing the truth in that case to the light
@@samm9318 I am looking through APs videos, and cannot find what you are talking about. That seems out of character though. (On an unrelated note, the one person who most mocks the pilgrims is Mohammed bin Salman. Hundreds of them die every year and all he does is cover it up. He has turned your holy city into a death trap.)
@@samm9318 people dying in mecca- these people have consented to it we dont care. You are engaging in ad hominems to discredit the messenger cause you dont like the message. So a bad faith argument. You shouldnt be taken seriously
Young men should be looking for insights from their parents, teachers, elders, and honest hard working folks around them. NOT Andrew Tate, not Jordan Peterson or even Chris Harris. I understand the always connected, internet, social media culture we live in, but the reality in the real world is different than what any RUclips channel screams about. Including yours, Chris. All of this is entertainment, not reality. That is the most important insight, that RUclips, and social media is just ENTERTAINMENT!
Hard to learn from parents when parents now rob the children of gender roles that they so badly need, and stopped rasing them properly. For 40+ years (feminism) daddy has been grovelling and simping at mommy's feet, giving her a free pass to act selfishly as a useless, self-serving and extremely redundant modern woman. She has absolutely NOTHING to offer to anyone other than herself, all the meanwhile taking everyone/thing for granted. With other words, daddy fails at playing his gender role and leading by example already at the first hurdle, not even able to act equal to mommy and hold her to account, defining her role and responisbilites, as she still defines his. Mommy thus also fails her gender role just the same, by no longer being feminine, maternal, not wearing the skirts, raising the kids properly, instead pretending to wear the trousers and be the same as a man, which no one ever needed from her, included the children.
Boys and girls thus never really grow up. They never learn how to be masculine men and feminine women. Feminized men and masculinized women. A mish-mash of nothing. Men and women unable to appreciate each other, to depend on each other, to connect, unable to GIVE. Giving = responsibility = Love, so long as it is a two-way street.
Why do you think there is such a thirst among young men for Tates and Petersons to begin with ?? They're looking for the "daddy-figure" they never sufficiently had. Young men face the consequences of their parents' seflishness and negligence far more than young women do, and at a much younger age, because life kicks them in the balls from the start, whereas women have a free pass and are not held to account. The women still potentially must pay the price as they age and fertility leaves them, broken by the promiscuous carousel and a life treating both themselves and huge numbers of men like garbage. They end up single mothers (in some extreme cases even childless) and forever lonely and unloved. Countless relationships, yes, on and off, but never loved. A lifetime of loneliness and failure. Because they have nothing to give. Narcissism and selfishness is all they have.
Why not? Isn't this what individualism and liberty has brought us down to?
Are you saying we should not have the liberty to choose?
Dummy
Tate speaks youth directly without philosophical complicated words. In every 10 seconds, he says something simple, right and direct.
He says something reductionistic, heartless, and ultimately fascistic. The guy in an uncaring world who says you need to be more uncaring is not any type of guide, other than for the cynical enrichment of his own bank balance.
@@zootsoot2006 I respect your view.
@@zootsoot2006For white people it is, why would we cate about other groups that hate us?
You go care for Mtumbu who came here on a dingy with a IQ of 60 im saving up to leave rhis racial jungle
@@zootsoot2006Sam is the facist here with his martial law type takes
But atleast he respects women😂
……for morons
Sam Harris cant talk for 3 minutes straight without moving on to talk about religion. you would think he'd get bored at some point...
Sam Harris: I haven't met Andrew Tate or took a deep dive into his background or on what he's "guilty" of...but I will assume I am smart enough to judge a book by its cover and be right.
It only took the first 10 seconds of this clip to know Sam knows nothing on Andrew Tate besides what others assume to know about him. That was a very non-intellectual approach.
Sam is dumb
I mean, Andrew Tate sold courses and gloats online in detail on how to manipulate, pimp out women, evade taxes with bitcoin, etc. He makes all his money from pimping across 12 or so properties in Romania. There are at least 80 pages of publicly available evidence outlining all his crimes that he self incriminates himself for. It's not exactly hard to see that Andrew Tate is a monster.
What? He clearly said "deep dive" and you now ignore all of his words which are true. He had watched his videos and knows he is in house arrest which are not light things.
i wonder if sam can go 5 minutes without thinking about trump
No, he is in love with him.
I wonder if you have trouble putting on shoes and not bumping into objects in your home.
@@Arbitrary_Monikerlmao Harris has severe TDS and he’s so blinded by it lol
@@Arbitrary_Moniker i dont have feet so both of those are a problem
One annoying thing about Trump is is that you can't turn on the television without hearing about the idiot. Him and Biden are both a complete mess at this point in there own ways, and those are likely the two morons we will have to choose for president. After 4 years we might have to choose between 2 80 year old useless men, rather than a younger more capable candidate with some intelligence and ability. Sam may talk too much about Trump, but it's hard to avoid Trump when it comes to the media.
Sam Harris calling anyone an A Hole is hilarious. He’s one of the most underrated unself aware people in the intellectual realm.
Don't tell me you're comparing Sam Harris and Tate in term of compassion, Harris is much more than a political commentator.. Most of you guys love trump, not knowing how unself aware you guys are yourself.
That guy doesn’t even exist to me and I’m better off for it.
I got the information I really needed from Andrew Huberman 💫✊
335 days no alcohol 🏆
Every sentence in new row😂 is new trend
"I know you want to be like me, and if you're not good enough to be like me, I'll sleep with your girlfriend." 🤣🤣🤣
That really sounded like something Tate would say lol
I’ve literally never heard Tate ever say this.
@@drewp1974he doesn’t have to say it, that is his actitud. He is not a friend you want around.
@@euripideseusebio5404 haha he doesnt have to say it it seems @drewp1974
@@drewp1974 Not in so many words. I think you missed the point there. That sentence is the epitome of Andrew Tate the person.
Thank God this guy just spends his time talking about shit he doesn’t do, rather than take a point of leadership over potential men, which would never follow a Sam H.
he's got chris hysterical laughter but he's trying to hold it in!😂
all this ass-holery!😅😅😅
Before watching, let me guess. Sam no longer uses rationale thought about Tate and views him as dangerous. He will also somehow tie it to his deranged irrational hate and fear of Trump
He probably wakes up in the middle of the night screaming ‘Trump’ to his wife.
It's not irrational. Trump is a lunatic and a crazy person and anyone who doesn't see that is an NPC who is too busy projecting their own insecurities to realize they been conned by a thrice bankrupt reality tv star living on credit. All the signs are there. You just need to accept you were wrong and the world starts making sense again.
You can get there.
A pimp with a big platform is dangerous, and he gave a short answer about why. Too self-absorbed and lacking in compassion. He did tie it to Trump, coherently. There are comparisons to be made between two self-absorbed men with great influence.
The problem with Sam is he acts like this really pragmatic, fair custodian of ethics, but he strawmans Tate's views and then ignores the objectively positive aspects of his message. But sam talks with a really calm voice tho so let's just all nod our heads.
You’re 100% correct. Harris talks about ethics and standards, but never shuts up about Trump, who he said he was willing to throw all laws, ethics and standards away just to keep out of office. Harris is morally bankrupt and is the opposite of wise.
Everyone has positive aspects of their messages. Look at his character overall.
bro finaly someone sane who expose the stupidity of the sheep followers of andrew tate, it took years just to state the obvious
Lol it’s a bit ironic hearing Sam Harris talk about people being assholes like he’s the beacon of kindness.
As if he hasn't spent much of his life trying to become a more ethical person...
Don't tell me you're comparing Sam harris and Tate in term of compassion.
@@theemperor4901Tate cares about young men Sam cares about the Jewish agenda for the world
My own positive opinion of Tate is less about the materialism and hyper-masculinity - it’s more about the fact he doesn’t cower and has some virtuous positions that he expresses boldly, unapologetically (and rather articulately)
This makes him a perfect blender
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Complaining about Andrew tate, but he himself is not doing anything to help/trying to connect with young men.
Sam Harris is a matrix agent to confuse issues and push for war.
His life went upside down when Tate called ppl like him "dorks".
He's got pretty good shit to listen to on his app Waking Up.
@@deussivenatura5805Vaccinate yourself goys
Sam Harris has a lot of criticism for someone who offers young men absolutely zero advice
Why is Sam Harris so dislikable by me
right?
Honestly, it's hard to take Sam seriously. Dude let's tribal political NARRATIVES overwhelm his "rational" mind. Mention Trump, and he goes off into unsubstantiated corporate tag lines and half-truths to justify jumping to conclusions.
As I'm finishing typing this, he mentioned Trump. Here we go.
He said we need a "Perfect human being" Someone who has never fail, never make mistake, never been poor... to be our model. If that person exist, I wonder what he will teach us so we could consider him as model, maybe that person will told us how to reborn and live a perfect perfect life from the beginning.
Most people will go the news and talk about what a model should be, but they themselves couldn't even thinks about their own opinion from a critical point of view.
Do you Want to teach me how to get jacked, show me your body
Want to teach me how to succeed , show me your failures
Want to teach me how to become better, show me your mistakes.
Imagine someone teaching you how to control yourself as man when he himself need a pill to feel whole. 😂
Nice poem😂
Pretty sure the man you're looking for is Jesus...
Andrew Tate gives me the creeps. There's something about him that is truly unsettling. I don't understand the appeal whatsoever. Luckily I don't run into many people in my circles who know who he is. But I would be very concerned if a guy I met embraced the standard of masculinity that Andrew Tate promotes.
Bco if more people listen to him the less likely they wil be simps and serve women like u. And u find that unsettling no wonder
Andrew Tate promotes a Taliban version of masculinity. In fact he has praised the Taliban on some occasions. Insecure men love this version of masculinity.
I'm 30 years old and agree with most of Tate's ideas. The nonsense that young inexperienced men are the target of his message is ludicrous. He is not perfect and I don't expect him to be but I don't see how we would rather not have him then have him there for men. He advocates more than anything self improvement for men and radical independence. He speaks of heartbroken men who have been left by their wives, purposely teenagers who sit and play video games all day, boys who prioritize women over themselves. Truth is we live in a society that prioritizes women over men and everyone is sick of that because believe or not, men are humans too. And most of these so called "wise" people that are speaking against Tate are people who have never been seen in public making an effort to improve the lives of men in any way. He is here criticizing Tate's ideologies yet withholding his own "wise" ones. He has never for a moment spoken against even the most obviously inequitable treatment of men in society yet he is here with his holier than thou attitude criticizing a man who is making an effort. How then should we listen to him when we don't know a single about his life. When has this man directly stood up for men?!
And by which measure should we say that this man is wiser than Tate. I don't see how he can sit here and speak as an oracle of truth when Tate is better than him in every measurable way. I've seen Jordan Peterson criticize Tate as well yet he depressed out of his mind and raised a daughter with a host of mental issue and physical issues and a young divorcee. How are these people talking as something to look up to. Because JP, in my opinion, can learn a thing or two from Tate and I say this as somebody who loves JP. These people are mistaking timidity for wisdom. When this men goes home, he must then answer to his wife, he has a duty to preserve his own relationship and he would do that over your own interest.
Tate is a fraud man. He claims he is manly and lacks all manlihood; disrespects women, blames his faults on conspiracies, etc. Whines all the time about why man are not prioritized as women. Found himself in jail in Romania for making money out of webcam girls he abused. I mean you have to read a little to find much better 'ideologies' than Tate's.
Andrew would never have the balls to have a formal debate with Sam
formal debate on what?
@MikeDonaldson-eh2ru Harris doesn’t pretend to be a tough fighter. Tate pretends to be intellectual and wise. That’s what.
Sam Harris is just a Sam Seder ... but with a calm demeanor and mellifluous voice.
I disagree with Sam Harris but he isn't Sam Seder. Seder is a malicious liar, while Harris simply weighs types of evidence differently than the traditionalists.
Both of then are dirty Jews so yeah you are correct
I can't express the joy I had listening to this.
You're weird ah.
@@dieselphiend nobody is perfect :)
@@AntonioLopez-ds5so It's just a silly word.
You find joy in this? Harris just waffling away
I am drunk and it is 7am but damn it feels like he is saying some truth. Thank you Chris and Sam
do some push ups
Sam is a brilliant and clear thinker. Chris is a masterful interviewer. Thanks both
Sam is an intellectually dishonest hack.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Everytime i hear Sam talk I believe more and more that his name is on a flight log.
100% Epstein buddy. Sam Harris is a matrix agent pushing for war and torture.
@@dnajournal4321 Yeah because Trump isn't in a photo hugging on Epstein or anything but who believes their own eyes anymore.
@@DireKnackTrump wasn't the topic of conversation. Speaks volumes about you that you brought him up though
@@adamdrouin2295 yeah because this brain dead matrix commentary maps onto any video no matter the content. So brain dead that you can't understand that Trump (mentioned in the video you're commenting on) who was suppose to be a wrecking ball to the establishment was indisputably on the flight logs. Tate who says "I would never kill myself" could not conceive of a human trafficker killing themselves in prison with mountains of evidence hanging over their heads.
Epstein wasn't the topic of the video. Speaks volumes you brought him up though herp derp.
@@DireKnacklol
I see Sam is complaining about a problem he helped to create and continues to whine about Trump
A man pressed his finger onto a bruise and felt a rush of pain, so he cut off his finger. That is what we do when we focus on AT.
More like, the infection created from the bruise (that had a cut) that he sustained without treating it quickly spred throughout his finger for months to the point where the finger could not function and the damage to it was irreparable. The doctor of the patient then recommends the immediate removal of said finger in order to save the patient from further health complications.
In a just society, we jail admitted and provable sex traffickers, such as the Tate's and their accomplices. Having some good takes for incels to follow doesn't mean shit. Nobody gives a damn that Hitler loved dogs and was vegetarian, just like how no one cares that he provided some helpful advice (in a sea of shit ones, courtesy of him).
It's nice that they coordinate 😊
tate's a LEGEND
Here for another awful elistist bad take from Sam. I use to be such a fan..
Sam is critical of everything except himself.
The real question is, why would anyone care about with Sam Harris things anymore? He’s proven himself to be in capable of admitting when he’s wrong. He will bend reality to suit his own opinions. Why does anyone care with someone like that thinks?
Whether or not Tate is the perfect role mode or not.
One thing is for sure.
They are more focused on bringing down Tate than the agendas and things that are really detrimental to society.
If they put the same effort into trying to cancel porn industry or stop other agendas which are affecting young men or even educating young men.
I’m sure Thst would be energy better spent.
Sam def has been to that TRT clinic. Hell yea, good for him
On a more serious note. “It’s a book. It was clearly written be human beings”. The fact that this is actually not just not obvious, but blasphemous to say to some people is sad and astounding. It’s time to grow up folks. It has run its course and become an anchor on progress and society’s growth
saying andrew tate is not ideal is such an understatement lmfao
It would be more accurate to say he portraits everything decent men should avoid becoming
@@HeathCliff95what should decent men do bro??
@@ocho33get in touch with God and then go from there
@@HeathCliff95 decent men can decide on their own what they want to be, stop telling what men should be
Do you go out on the street telling women to be good women?
Weirdo
Try not to be like andrew tate?@@ocho33
To Sam's constant dismissal of Christianity, I have to say that I've met many people whose lives have been transformed by the Bible and God. I've yet to meet the same effect to someone who became an atheist.
I'm sure believing in fairies and unicorns radically changes your life.
Becoming an atheist isn't as glamorous but listen to the testimonies of many former believers on yt. Realizing you were wrong or misled most of your life can be a liberating experience.
A lot of my friends who became atheists felt an unbearable burden lifted off their shoulders and said it majorly transformed their mental health and happiness for the better.
@@markaguilera493And then they kill themselves
Atheists going to Christianity = trad life
Christians going to Atheism = suicide
@@richardmccabe2392Great anecdotal evidence that doesnt help anyone since you made it up
Atheists have the highest suicde rates of any group but they were relieved mentally when they learned we are all just bacteria in a pond evolved to this😂 i
@@richardmccabe2392 Yeah, that is why the suicide rate and the highest use of antidepressants are among the atheists.
Don't believe me? Check the statistics yourself.
I think the problem is that there's a vast proliferation of opinion - which everyone IS entitled to - which simply isn't worth shit. There's a huge number of people selling intellectual snake oil without conscience because they can, because it's profitable, and because there's no real consequences so, somehow, they become a topic of "discussion". Most people are somewhere on the Alex Jones sliding scale of "journalism" around this. Andrew Tate - POS or victim or both? Everyone chime in or pile on but is Andrew Tate really worth the time or trouble just because we can talk about him?
"I don't know anything about the case, whether he's guilty or not..."
Love hearing two guys talk a huge legal case they know nothing about!
He didn't discuss the case tho...
What Tate has admitted on video is more than enough to judge his character.
There are not even talking about the case?
Yeah, he's hella guilty
He’s got major tds though his brain was broken a while back
Unbelievable Chris.. thank you for being a North Star of curiosity for generations that are lost. Love island was sick also!
This isnt ground breaking stuff that hes saying here, but from listening to sam speak in other podcasts, you can tell the guy is VERY intelligent, he pretty much described these topics spot on
‘Haven’t followed his content but I will form an opinion about him on a massive platform’. Pathetic. Then talks about judgement?
There’s a difference between not following his legal case or his content super closely and not understanding the person at all. You don’t have to be a Tate subscriber to know that Tate is selling a very shallow and materialistic version of self help that is based very heavily on dominating others. Do you disagree with anything Harris said? Was he wrong on any of that?
@@motorhead48067 completely wrong, which anyone would understand when they have an understanding of what Tate is actually about by watching long form unedited content. Not mashups on tiktok created to portray a particular bias.
Typical. Sam did not address what Tate says. He only cares about his character.
Character is everything and is often the difference between whether you should even cater to someone's ideas at all.
@@Imthrashsfu totally disagree. I think the opposite is true.
For me Tate is like Trump. Instead of attacking him ask why he is so popular amongst so many.
Sam does radiate some strong presence energy - must be quite impressive
A beta presence
You forgot the "/s"
Are you talking brain waves?
Sam Harris is so full of himself it's ridiculous. He doesn't even see it himself. He is doing the exact same thing to the people he talks about that he says they are doing to other people.
Not really. You just don’t like him because he criticizes your idiotic heroes.
this is why andrew tate has a following cause he is straight with his words if you ask andrew tate was his opinion of sam harris he would finished in the first 1 minutes is he right no or yes but his simple and thats what most people understand
Agree with Sam
Thank you for the aspect ratio👍
Always nice to see a video made for a full screen phone.
I agree with Sam in the sense that it is good to understand and acknowledge that any religious text has reen written by a human.. As enlightened as that human might have been they were still human with their own lense of life, their own personal views and biases. I also agree that there is wisdom to be found in all of these teachings however we put ourselves on a slippery slope when we start putting these texts on pedestals or taking them literally.
I’d rather listen to one of those books than Sam “I prefer dead kids in a basement than Trump” Harris. Sam is also human and a very wrong individual.
@@fox1actual Trump is a traitor to American democracy and anyone who still supports him has not been following the plot. The man refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power for months before even a single vote was cast. January 6th was the obvious outcome from this cult leader and his cult following.
@@fox1actualIt says something about your process that that's the way you evaluate opinions & people. One quote. You have someone like Sam, who's exceptionally well spoken, well read, and who has truly dedicated much of his life to becoming a more ethical person, and one line is all it takes to undo that? The world where everyone judges others like that is one where there are no gradients of better and worse answers, little learning is done, and everyone is just waiting to scream at (and lynch, if we look at human history) the next person who fucks up. It's dismal.
Any? How are you sure about that?
Quran wasn’t written by a human nice try tho
Am I the only one who doesn't like Sam?
Nope. I can't deal with him either 😂
I've done my fair share of listening and investigation in to the tate brothers and while i dont agree with everything they have said or do, they arent actually bad in my opinion, people have this ridiculous idea of them because of the clips that get posted with them talking about having certain types of things and without the context and see what they are actually about I really feel they could be the most misunderstood people on the internet right now. I think a large part of the controversiality was engineered in a way to gain views and comments so that people got talking about them, but if you bother to listen to the long form podcasts with them youll quickly realise they aren't bad at all in my opinion.
They’re hateful, shallow criminals and the worst of compilation should be enough to condemn them. Everyone becomes tolerable when you listen to them long enough.
4:34 He hit the nail on the head.
That is EXACTLY how Tate is. A shamelessly toxic and selfish asshole who knows exactly what he's doing and how to manipulate young boys to acting like he does.
Dr. Harris should debate and then fight Top G...
Ooo 😅 but Harris have no free will I don't think in debate but in fight tate would slaughter this moron
Harris, in the first 20 seconds you say that you havent done a deep dive on Tate, yet amazingly you unequivocally support his guilt followed by the claim that there's 'obviously something wrong with him'. Wow, what contrast - and so quickly! Perhaps you performed exactly the amount of research you felt was requisite on this topic? By my estimations, your perspecrive might contain what the cult-dinks in HR pontificate about as, 'unscious bias'?
Free Top G. Hes such a good guy
how is he a good guy whes he litteraly admitted to his loverboy manipulation scheme? Sure hes not as bad as the media makes him, but he aint good either.
Id love to see Sam and Tate have a conversation.
Since hearing Sam's rhetoric on vaccines, he revealed what a car crash he actually is.. sounds like a deep thinker, but too out of touch..
why is nobody talking about the fact that Sam is jacked?!
Who pissed in this guy’s cereal lol
I would worry about the pork on your prayer mats
I usually just listen to the podcast, now I have to stop doing other stuff just to watch Chris trying to keep himself from laughing out loud.
None of my mates or acquaintances are contaminated with any of tates advice. Its opened our eyes. We still love guys like jordan peterson etc. But Tate has different messages jordan doesnt talk about. Be high value guy, work on yourself in all areas, have strong boundaries. Tate goes into specifics, down to the principle and action to take around everyone in your life - men and women. Business insights etc. So much more relatable advice. He's also funny as hell and most his shit is just jokes. But there is also some truth to those jokes.
Do you say ‘contaminated’ in a negative sense?
I don’t understand that even smart people don’t seem to catch his funny side. Maybe the line is thin and/or people lack humor nowadays.
@@musiclassica Yeah I think as soon as people hear something they don’t like or don’t agree with they instantly get emotional and close off their ability to think rationally
and treat women like shit have them work as sex slaves working as webcam sluts take 99% of their earnings and spend it on yourself and your brother, who doesn't want their sons to grow up just like that
What you said about fluency...well rounded delivery & 'that sounds true'.
How can you logically prove that there is good and bad and furthermore that there is a moral responsibility?
The more I listen to Sam Harris, the more I feel he is not that intelligent in certain aspects. Maybe he can dismantle religion brilliantly, but he bends the knee quite easily to the modern religion of "feminism", hence speaking that language. The way he uses the word "assh@le" for Tate sounds like a leftist emotional outburst, instead of some clear nuanced intelligent thought process. It's is quite clear that there is a vacuum in masculinity in the modern world, and anybody with two eyes can see that. As they say, in the world of the blind, the one eyed man is king. There are far better (and dare I say) intellectual ways to criticize Tate.
Tate his philosophies on society and lifestyle, I like best about him. imo, Tate is strongest in that area.
Simply put: Tate wraps his positive message inside quite a bit of bullshit messages. How many times do I have to hear Tate say "I would never kill myself" before I want to kill myself. Look no further than interviews of the women Tate has dated to understand why he says women are the weaker sex. Sure he says some positive things for men but there are plenty of men doing this already and aren't as clumsy or near sighted about it. Tate is an opportunist and entertaining, FINE! Tate is not saying anything original or profound.