Thanks for the feedback on this video, it's proving very popular! If you have any of your own tips and tricks please feel free to mention them in the comments.
Spot on Tony. I followed a very similar route to get my permissions and now have plenty of land to last me years. References from existing permissions always helps as well. 👍
Great advice and much needed in my case. Thanks. I have found some farmers to be very hostile when approached, just for being politely asked, so a remote requesting is less intimidating for me. If calling, I think being in smart, casual dress helps and showing an interest in local history. Being in the NW, I find the online LCC older MARIO maps help me there. I try to show my NCMD card and leave a double-sided A4 print out with Code of Conduct list on one side and the sample contract form on the other for their consideration (with my name/phone number on) before I call back. If successful, from MARIO, I print an A4 map of the general farm area so they can mark boundaries for me. I hope this is not too obvious but, once secured, keeping a good relationship is important, I feel, and a gift is always appreciated as an initial "Thank You". I have 2 farms over near Blackpool and have been over there today just to deliver them tinned biscuits, bottles of wine, Christmas card, etc, very affordable considering the normal £15 paid for any club mdc rally I attend. I show any decent finds, leave them the scrap metal found (a good incentive for the farmer, free metal removal - a danger to animals and machinery) if wished and text my arrival/departure times.
Totally agree, building a good relationship is key to keeping permission and potentially to the farmer introducing you to others. I do the usual Christmas gift thing, bottle of their preferred tipple delivered in December is always appreciated. Thanks for sharing EP.
Hi after watching your vid last Thursday sent out 20 emails over the weekend within 20 miles of home, after 3 very nice and professional no I'm sorry, today I got 2 permissions and hopefully a huge farm area being confirmed tomorrow over 15k acres.... Will keep me busy thanks for the advice you never know I may get more yet 😊
Thanks Tony Some great tips and advice on this video some you might not of know about or thought of too try I’ll be giving some of them ago from now on thanks again great help
Hopefully I can do the same I’ve got one permission upto now but not found anything on it yet I’ll try some of your suggestions and see what happens thanks again Tony much appreciated and happy I came across your video I’ve subscribed so I’ll have a look through your videos have you any videos on the Legend any tips for settings and other things what detector do you use I’ve got a Legend and also a Garret Apex but using the Legend for now but don’t seem to be finding anything worth posting on the group page mainly scrap had a couple of toasted coins but no silver coins or any Artefacts of any kind it’s so frustrating at the moment I feel like packing up and selling the lot but I’ll stick with it for now and a new permission might be helpful thanks again 👨🏻🦯🤝🤞👍🏼
@@petecurran8347 well done on your first permission, many struggle to even get one... but hopefully you can get some more! I like the Legend, it would be my normal backup if I weren't trying to get the V80 to run properly ;-( I'd also suggest you have a look at the old maps for your permission, see if there's any features that are worth investigating, e.g. old footpaths, wells, bridle ways etc... there's a few videos on my channel on map research too. Good luck
some great advice there. I always say respect there land like it is your own garden. my farmers love having us. because we watch over there sheep and discourage dog walkers to keep there dog on a lead. in a polite way of course. 🙂👍
Yep totally agree, I spotted a horse that had got its hoof stuck in a wire fence, alerted the farmer and then helped get it out... could have been stuck for ages if I hadn't have been there ,
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I'm curious to know how you get to know which fields you have permission for if you don't meet the landowner? When meeting face to face and they can spare you a few minutes, I preprint a Google map area surrounding the farm location and ask if the land could be identified.
Normally I get permission established and then go visit them and either get a copy of their map, or do as you do with a Google map, on the couple of occasions where I've not initially met the landowner then I've emailed them a map of the fields surrounding the farmhouse with each field numbered and asked them which are theirs by the numbers.
@@OneTrundle never got any replies, but now I have over 8k of permissions, so does take some work but you do get some permissions from the most unlikely places
Currently gathering as much information through research as possible before obtaining a detector. I found your video very useful. I’m more likely to send an email than make face to face contact and you’ve given me many options I hadn’t considered. I’ve just joined the NCMD, so that’s my first leap of faith 🤣
@@ianwoodhams6886 hey mate, glad you found the video useful, hopefully it will help you find some land! If you want advice on what detector to get them can be useful to talk to one of the dealers and explain what you are looking for... I always (well almost) use Detecnicks, great service in my esperience... and if you call them and quote 'tcDetects' they give 10% off most items... best of luck with the hobby!
I've literally knocked on countless doors, called up countless land owners and time and time and time and time again it ends with a straight up "no"... Despite being NCMD insured and having a fairly wholesome knowledge on the places I asked at I have NEVER had permission for farmland. I have tried to same with council land but they are much the same. The difference is, the council don't carry shotguns and have guard dogs so the land opposite my house has been the only place for me. Rallies turn me off because I don't want to be surrounded by thirty other people.
All my permissions, 15 to date - c2000 acres, have come from doing the things in this video, that's why I made it, hoping it might help other detectorists out. I've never knocked on a farmers door for all the reasons you mention above, and I don't want to disturb them at work. The three councils local to me don't allow it either, but there's a few that do.
Staffordshire seems a very difficult place to get a permission, Ive not had any luck at all. On one farm, me and my son even offered to help the farmer clear some of his rubbish he had around the yard and lets just say, he was not a polite person. I have no idea if the Staffordshire hoard has raised the profile of the area and there has been an increase in requests in recent times, im not sure. But as we live in the county and im not as young as i once were, travelling too far would be a very rare occurrence. We have now consigned ourselves to beaches once or twice a year. It is what it is, i suppose!
Possibly due to the hoard, but it is difficult everywhere and there's a lot of clubs now too... I have another trawl through online sites and pages every year and try in Jan/Feb, managed to pick two more up this year... but the more emails/enquiries you make the better your chances
Great info! Permissions are so important, and can be intimidating to get! Thanks for the great vid, and for checking out our channel, subbing you back! ATB & HH!
This is my email im sending.......Any good? Good Morning, I would like to find out the chances of being able to metal detect on your land. I am registered with NCMD (National Council for Metal Detecting) and fully insured, I am local to Taunton and trying to find suitable locations close to home. Any finds of significant value will be split with land owner after contacting the local finds liason officer. Also, any waste/rubbish items (random bits of metal or led) will be removed from the field. Holes are dug such that they can be easily replaced and cause no damage to the land itself. Holes are typically no deeper than a few inches. Metal detecting is a passion of mine as I am fascinated by the history that is buried, hopefully you can share this idea. Kind Regards,
Hi there, Here's mine, feel free to use any bits you like. I’m a responsible and mature metal detectorist and I am looking for some new land to detect and I was wondering if you’d be willing to let me investigate and detect on any appropriate land around the Farm and see what history remains to be discovered? In return for your kind permission to detect I would: 1) Compile a research document for you on the area, tithe maps and other old maps, local history and history of any previous finds in the area. 2) Report and show you any and all worthwhile finds and keep you up to date with progress. 3) Work tidily without leaving a mess and I would remove and dispose of any and all junk I find and neatly fill in any and all holes dug. 4) Respect your property, privacy and only detect at times we’ve agreed, on agreed areas. 5) I adhere to the code of conduct as set out by the National Council for Metal Detecting (NCMD) - www.ncmd.co.uk/code-of-conduct/ - of which I’m a member and I also have civil liabilities insurance through membership. I’m at your disposal if you’d like me to supply any further information, including references, and would be happy to discuss anything you’d like to know about me or my detecting. Please feel free to contact me by email, phone, text whatever is easier.
Thanks for the feedback on this video, it's proving very popular! If you have any of your own tips and tricks please feel free to mention them in the comments.
Spot on Tony. I followed a very similar route to get my permissions and now have plenty of land to last me years. References from existing permissions always helps as well. 👍
Tx Adrian, and yep references and recommendations are a great way of gaining extra land.
Just about to buy my first metal detector, at the age of 56. This video was superb! Thank you.
Colin
My pleasure Colin, glad it was useful!
Great advice and much needed in my case. Thanks. I have found some farmers to be very hostile when approached, just for being politely asked, so a remote requesting is less intimidating for me. If calling, I think being in smart, casual dress helps and showing an interest in local history. Being in the NW, I find the online LCC older MARIO maps help me there. I try to show my NCMD card and leave a double-sided A4 print out with Code of Conduct list on one side and the sample contract form on the other for their consideration (with my name/phone number on) before I call back. If successful, from MARIO, I print an A4 map of the general farm area so they can mark boundaries for me.
I hope this is not too obvious but, once secured, keeping a good relationship is important, I feel, and a gift is always appreciated as an initial "Thank You". I have 2 farms over near Blackpool and have been over there today just to deliver them tinned biscuits, bottles of wine, Christmas card, etc, very affordable considering the normal £15 paid for any club mdc rally I attend. I show any decent finds, leave them the scrap metal found (a good incentive for the farmer, free metal removal - a danger to animals and machinery) if wished and text my arrival/departure times.
Totally agree, building a good relationship is key to keeping permission and potentially to the farmer introducing you to others.
I do the usual Christmas gift thing, bottle of their preferred tipple delivered in December is always appreciated.
Thanks for sharing EP.
Hi after watching your vid last Thursday sent out 20 emails over the weekend within 20 miles of home, after 3 very nice and professional no I'm sorry, today I got 2 permissions and hopefully a huge farm area being confirmed tomorrow over 15k acres.... Will keep me busy thanks for the advice you never know I may get more yet 😊
Sorry Garry, only just seen your comment - but that's great news!
Thanks Tony
Some great tips and advice on this video some you might not of know about or thought of too try I’ll be giving some of them ago from now on thanks again great help
Glad you found it useful Pete, I've picked up 4 new permissions this year so far still following the ideas in the vid
Hopefully I can do the same I’ve got one permission upto now but not found anything on it yet I’ll try some of your suggestions and see what happens thanks again Tony much appreciated and happy I came across your video I’ve subscribed so I’ll have a look through your videos have you any videos on the Legend any tips for settings and other things what detector do you use I’ve got a Legend and also a Garret Apex but using the Legend for now but don’t seem to be finding anything worth posting on the group page mainly scrap had a couple of toasted coins but no silver coins or any Artefacts of any kind it’s so frustrating at the moment I feel like packing up and selling the lot but I’ll stick with it for now and a new permission might be helpful thanks again 👨🏻🦯🤝🤞👍🏼
@@petecurran8347 well done on your first permission, many struggle to even get one... but hopefully you can get some more!
I like the Legend, it would be my normal backup if I weren't trying to get the V80 to run properly ;-(
I'd also suggest you have a look at the old maps for your permission, see if there's any features that are worth investigating, e.g. old footpaths, wells, bridle ways etc... there's a few videos on my channel on map research too.
Good luck
Great advice, something I've never tried.. I have gained all my permissions face to face but this clearly works just as good.👍
Glad you liked, just an alternative way for the shyer amongst us ;-)
some great advice there. I always say respect there land like it is your own garden. my farmers love having us. because we watch over there sheep and discourage dog walkers to keep there dog on a lead. in a polite way of course. 🙂👍
Yep totally agree, I spotted a horse that had got its hoof stuck in a wire fence, alerted the farmer and then helped get it out... could have been stuck for ages if I hadn't have been there
,
just wanna let you know. you came 3rd in our 400 sub giveaway competition. you can find our e mai l address in our videos. if you just send your address. 🙂👍
Great advice 👍
Thanks for the sub and glad you liked the vid!
Thank you Tony some great advice and tips given ATB ... Dave
I'm curious to know how you get to know which fields you have permission for if you don't meet the landowner? When meeting face to face and they can spare you a few minutes, I preprint a Google map area surrounding the farm location and ask if the land could be identified.
Normally I get permission established and then go visit them and either get a copy of their map, or do as you do with a Google map, on the couple of occasions where I've not initially met the landowner then I've emailed them a map of the fields surrounding the farmhouse with each field numbered and asked them which are theirs by the numbers.
I have been looking for farms on google maps.How do you find out which farm owns which fields etc?
Fantastic video. Thanks for making things so clear
Glad you liked it, hope it helps.
Awesome tips - thanks for taking the time and effort to share them with us!
Tx Anthony, my pleasue.
I have emailed 4 farm shops close to me up in the north east of the uk, will keep you posted.
Good luck and fingers crossed for you!
How did it go?
@@OneTrundle never got any replies, but now I have over 8k of permissions, so does take some work but you do get some permissions from the most unlikely places
Some very useful info there Mr TC thanks for posting👍
Great advice.. im trying to get permissions for me and my son to start detecting...ive subscribed thanks for this.
Glad you enjoyed the video and hope you manage to find somewhere for you and your son!
Currently gathering as much information through research as possible before obtaining a detector. I found your video very useful. I’m more likely to send an email than make face to face contact and you’ve given me many options I hadn’t considered. I’ve just joined the NCMD, so that’s my first leap of faith 🤣
@@ianwoodhams6886 hey mate, glad you found the video useful, hopefully it will help you find some land! If you want advice on what detector to get them can be useful to talk to one of the dealers and explain what you are looking for... I always (well almost) use Detecnicks, great service in my esperience... and if you call them and quote 'tcDetects' they give 10% off most items... best of luck with the hobby!
I've literally knocked on countless doors, called up countless land owners and time and time and time and time again it ends with a straight up "no"... Despite being NCMD insured and having a fairly wholesome knowledge on the places I asked at I have NEVER had permission for farmland. I have tried to same with council land but they are much the same. The difference is, the council don't carry shotguns and have guard dogs so the land opposite my house has been the only place for me. Rallies turn me off because I don't want to be surrounded by thirty other people.
All my permissions, 15 to date - c2000 acres, have come from doing the things in this video, that's why I made it, hoping it might help other detectorists out. I've never knocked on a farmers door for all the reasons you mention above, and I don't want to disturb them at work. The three councils local to me don't allow it either, but there's a few that do.
Good detailed info Tony. Great tutorial and helpful info
Many thanks you two!
What's your agreement with the farmer , if you find things what do you do with them. Do you keep them or split , good vid mate
Agreement with all of them is 50/50 on anything valuable... occassionally they want something that isn't valuable back and I'm always happy to oblige.
Staffordshire seems a very difficult place to get a permission, Ive not had any luck at all. On one farm, me and my son even offered to help the farmer clear some of his rubbish he had around the yard and lets just say, he was not a polite person. I have no idea if the Staffordshire hoard has raised the profile of the area and there has been an increase in requests in recent times, im not sure. But as we live in the county and im not as young as i once were, travelling too far would be a very rare occurrence. We have now consigned ourselves to beaches once or twice a year. It is what it is, i suppose!
Possibly due to the hoard, but it is difficult everywhere and there's a lot of clubs now too... I have another trawl through online sites and pages every year and try in Jan/Feb, managed to pick two more up this year... but the more emails/enquiries you make the better your chances
Thanks for the information, liked and subscribed.
Good info! Good luck everyone and happy hunting!
Enjoyed the video well
Done on the finds
Glad you enjoyed it
Nothing beats being on the doorstep farmers don’t check Emails they barely check phones
My 15 permissions would suggest otherwise, but each to their own, good luck with yours.
Great info! Permissions are so important, and can be intimidating to get! Thanks for the great vid, and for checking out our channel, subbing you back! ATB & HH!
Many thanks and yep, permissions can be a problem but hopefully this vid will help some people out.
thanks!
Welcome!
This is my email im sending.......Any good?
Good Morning,
I would like to find out the chances of being able to metal detect on your land. I am registered with NCMD (National Council for Metal Detecting) and fully insured, I am local to Taunton and trying to find suitable locations close to home.
Any finds of significant value will be split with land owner after contacting the local finds liason officer. Also, any waste/rubbish items (random bits of metal or led) will be removed from the field.
Holes are dug such that they can be easily replaced and cause no damage to the land itself. Holes are typically no deeper than a few inches.
Metal detecting is a passion of mine as I am fascinated by the history that is buried, hopefully you can share this idea.
Kind Regards,
Hi there,
Here's mine, feel free to use any bits you like.
I’m a responsible and mature metal detectorist and I am looking for some new land to detect and I was wondering if you’d be willing to let me investigate and detect on any appropriate land around the Farm and see what history remains to be discovered?
In return for your kind permission to detect I would:
1) Compile a research document for you on the area, tithe maps and other old maps, local history and history of any previous finds in the area.
2) Report and show you any and all worthwhile finds and keep you up to date with progress.
3) Work tidily without leaving a mess and I would remove and dispose of any and all junk I find and neatly fill in any and all holes dug.
4) Respect your property, privacy and only detect at times we’ve agreed, on agreed areas.
5) I adhere to the code of conduct as set out by the National Council for Metal Detecting (NCMD) - www.ncmd.co.uk/code-of-conduct/ - of which I’m a member and I also have civil liabilities insurance through membership.
I’m at your disposal if you’d like me to supply any further information, including references, and would be happy to discuss anything you’d like to know about me or my detecting.
Please feel free to contact me by email, phone, text whatever is easier.
👊👊💓
I’m going to just ask farmers in person I might give them some money for the privilege