1 YEAR REVIEW! 2023 GMC Denali 1500 3.0 LZO Duramax
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Mine is just over 51,000 miles already. 100% satisfied with it. Gets amazing fuel economy. Zero problems so far.
I just bought a new 2024 Black Denali. Thanks you for your review, it made me feel comfortable with my purchase.
I've had my '23 SLT with the 3.0 for almost a year now with almost no issues either. Got an Everlasting Comfort seat cushion so solve the seat issue. I'm loving it and plan to keep it until the wheels fall off or I leave this world, whichever comes first.🙂
I just got the 2024 GMC sierra 1500 with the 5.3 v8. I’m happy with it.
I bought a new 2021 Silerado with the 3.0. So 3 years, no issues. Average 24 mpg. Only seems to use DEF when towing. When towing 5k trailer, I average 12 mpg. But has plenty of power to spare
Amazing fuel economy results! Wish I got similar magic on the 6.6L 2500HD. Its like half that mileage empty without tow 😢
Got a 23 LTZ with the LZ0 and absolutely love it and rave about it to people. Have only owned it 3 months but man its a SWEET truck!!
Thoughtful and objective information. I drive a 3.0 Silverado and have experienced the same level of satisfaction.
I can’t decide between the Chevy and GMC
Strange to think y’all have had it for a year! Time flies sometimes!
Awesome review. Thank you for what you do!
Man the interior is so nice. Like a nice high end cabin you feel secure in from all weather and harms way. True Dreamliner.
Same exact experience of my 2022 GMC Denali. I love the truck…
Now how many of you had your Google Assistants go off after he said "Hey Google" @ 4:55? 😂
😂😂😂 Every time for me 24 2500 Denali Ultimate..lol
Wow, i was just reading this comment and yup, it happened. Haha
"Dang". The official non-word of this channel
Very good observations on your truck. The lack of 12v was a bone headed idea. I really love my 22' LT Trail Boss 6.2L . The Diesel is a fantastic option, I just wanted another 6.2L.
My 23 6.2 averages nothing closes to this. All about those smiles per miles baby!!! I think I’m around 16.5 if I manage to get the lead outta my foot somedays LOL both are absolutely amazing engines in my opinion.
If you get the NHT tow package, you get stronger rear springs and shocks as well as 3.73 axles instead of 3.23. Makes towing and hauling much better and helps with soft rear axle. MPG end up being about the same. Seems like nobody knows about it. Just tell dealer you want option "NHT."
Do you have the max tow or nht? If so how do you like it and what you towing
@Kevin-midmichigan I have NHT. It's great towing and feels stronger around town unloaded due to the deep ratio. I get similar MPG to folks with 3.23 on non NHT with my 3.73. The only downside is that it's a little stiffer unloaded due to stiffer springs, but I don't mind it, and it's nothing like a 2500.
@Kevin-midmichigan Most dealers have no idea what NHT is... they think all tow packages are the same. Tell them to look for NHT "RPO". It will show up on the RPO sticker on the truck, and you will get a 13k tow rating on the door sticker if you have it. Test drive and you will feel it's faster off line and a little stiffer unloaded.
@billmonroe7328 how much you towing comfortably
First off, I'm a ford guy, but because I see such incredible fuel economy with these engines, it looks like I will be switching brands when its time to trade
out of my 22 tremor, which has been nothing but trouble since I got it !
I have 5500 miles on my 2023 High Country 3.0 LZ0 and really like it. I traded in my 2020 2500 6.6 Duramax and really liked that also but the ride was rough. I miss the power of the 6.6 but the 3.0 is no slouch. I agree with your likes and dislikes but an addition for me would be the camper mirrors that don't offer auto dimming Great video on a nice looking GMC!!
2023 Denali here with 20k miles. Absolutely love the truck and engine/ transmission combo. Fantastic duo. The 3.0 Duramax and 10 speed has to be one of the best on the market. Hands down.
Miss a sunglasses holder as well as a 12v outlet. Such a strange omission.
Google is awesome. I love that you can kill the door honk setting (as opposed to my Ram). Also love that you can completely shut off all exterior lights. I don’t love the back seat lift catch mechanism. It’s sticks. Seats are ok but not great cushioning. The leg position is excellent and it’s easy to sleep in the passenger seat while traveling. The wind noise is annoying. Ram beats the heck out of GM for a quiet interior. Agree with this review entirely
The lack of 12v outlets is silly on GM's part, considering no more than they would've cost to include. I would think that most people would prefer to have them and not need them, rather than need them and not have them.
Good call on keeping it! It’s a beautiful truck, reliable and has excellent fuel economy. Thanks for the 1yr update 👍
Have a 2020 SLT, really like the truck, almost 75k miles. Has had a coolant pump leak and oil leak fixed under warranty. Brakes rotors warp too easy, may be the stop and go traffic. I average 27.5 mpg with highway and heavy traffic on the commute home.
Seats suck, I added a purple seat cushion and no more issues. I also added the roadmaster suspension. Helped with towing my airstream.
We'll see about the next 75k miles if I would buy another one.
Your video is the best I have seen on the 3.0 Duramax. I have a 2021 Denali and it is the most impressive truck I have ever owned (79 years old and have owned about 10 trucks , all GMCs). Currently it has about 63000 miles on it and it averages 30-35 mpg on the highway and always 25-30 mpg around town. I'm light-footed and a very conservative driver. Due to my own distraction I recently put some DEF in the wrong fill port and was surprised to learn how many others have made the same error. Please convince GMC to put the DEF fill back under the hood or on the other side of the vehicle. I know, I should get a cap or T-shirt with the word "STUPID" on it.
That towing MPG is insane!! I tow a 26' TT that weighs about 6500#. My tow vehicle is a RAM 3500 srw with a HO CTD and the best I get is 10-11 around 70 mph.
Diesel vehicles get better fuel economy period. I don’t know what the current figures are but at one point 51% of new vehicles sold in Europe were diesel because of the high price of fuel. Until this point GM is the only company to do half ton diesel well. Any half ton truck towing a travel trailer should have rear suspension enhancement. Sumo springs or air bags would make towing with that truck much more comfortable. I use Timbren springs on my Tacoma which makes towing much more stable. That’s a very nice truck.
GM has the best towing game in the market for the half ton class. Every truck and every trim come ready to tow, no need to replace the hitch… ahem Ford. The suspension and frame are unrivaled, independent suspension on say a Tundra makes for a better ride but can be challenging when towing. Which is why GM still employs the leaf suspension. GM also adds on-board TSC as an option on most of their trims. My truck came with TSC no extra charge. I’ve towed 7500k with mine… felt like nothing.
I beg to differ. Ford half ton in the 5th gen 3.5 eco boost beats GM half ton gas
Current gen F-150's are the best towing half tons ever built. Ecoboost, 5.0, and 3.5 powerboost all tow like a freight train and are very stable. @@TheAverageJoeBro
@@lanehart6525 never claimed they weren’t great at towing just not from the manufacturer… I personally feel that GM owns the market stock for everything I stated above which Ford does not do without charging 6K (or more) extra in packages. Cheers!
@@TH-bk5hj Ford still doesn't have a handle on the Ecoboost 3.5 issues though. Multiple cam phaser design changes, parts on intergalactic back order, etc.
I would love that truck, great fuel mileage
Man that's a beautiful looking truck❤
I have a 22 trail boss LM2 refresh. 20,000 miles. No complaints. I don’t even mind the seats…
Had a couple trips with a 20’ enclosed trailer and a 3500-4000lb car. Averaged anywhere from 15-17mpg.
I have the 2022 refresh with 20,000 miles on it. ..essentially the same truck. I love the truck. It is a incredibly smooth and comfortable truck. The only difference is I have the 5.3 (with no AFM due to chip shortage) . I would agree with this review. The only slight difference is the review of the seats. The seats are definitely firm. However as a tall person with back issues, the seats are God sent. My 5.3 fuel economy in my opinion is excellent for a V8 gas engine. Up in Canada the fuel cost for diesel is about 15% higher. I think your fuel economy in the long run would warrant the extra cost of the diesel engine. Not sure of the increase cost of engine maintenance though. I would love for you to do a video on options for a beefed up rear suspension options, taking into account the adaptive ride suspension. . Springs ,air bags or Timbrens?. I do not know. Thank you.
Beautiful truck
It’s hard to believe it’s been a year since you got it. I guess time flies when you hit 50 🤣
I love the creativity in your videos.
Gm did something with the seats for 2024, I have an in-law that has 2023 Silverado and the seats in that truck are about as comfortable as a metal folding chair. They are so uncomfortable I counted gm out when upgrading my truck last month, however my local ford dealer decided to play games with me so I went and looked at a 2024 2500 Denali and there is a very noticeable difference in the seats, much more comfortable! Granted they’re still not as soft as what I had in my last ram but the seats are plenty comfortable for me
I've heard that their original seat supplier had issues keeping up with demand so they had to bring in another company. Not sure if it's true but it might be.
Nice to see an update from you. And doesn't seem its been a year yet. I got mine not long before you did. I have a 21 with the LM2 and I went from 10k miles on it (got it used) and now I am at 31k. Zero issues and I still love it. Have you thought about the RAS road master active suspension for the soft rear suspension? I plan on it this year.
just get airbags
Beautiful trick
Great review … I have the same truck but with the 5.3l gas engine . I echo your comments about lack of 12 V chargers! My wife’s stand up board needs a 12 V charger to inflate .. as well as my portable air compressor .
Thank you for posting and sharing such a thorough and thoughtful review. I just purchased a 2024 1500 ZR2 Bison with the Duramax 3.0 LZO. Given the owners manual recommends the use of only top-tier diesel and how scarce access to such diesel is not only in my area in California, but also nationally , I am wondering what other Duramax LZO owners use to fuel their trucks.
Sounds good
I've been averaging 30 MPG & my record in 50 mile setting is 44 MPG. These trucks are insanely efficient, love my 2023 Elevation LZ0.
If you get a chevy custom trail boss with the 3.0 duramax, it has the smaller radio and comes with a 12v socket
Very good looking gmc I own few and would not trade them for anything
I have a 20 SLT and have complained about seats since new. Been going to try the memory foam or something but never did. Will try now. Did talk with upholstery shop and was told it would be worse if installed under leather.
Great review. Where you do pay is at the pump. In some states diesel is alot more expensive than gas.
I wish duramax would make a big boy 6 cylinder based off this engine.
I tow all the time and I have not used a 12v plug since I had an old flip phone. If I need beacon lights I have bought battery operated LED beacons and they last for a very very long time on 2 D batteries, I actually have yet to have one run out of batteries and I’ve done at least 1500 miles of wide load hauling or being a pilot vehicle.
GM needs to:
1. Use multi density foam in their seats.
2. Have rear self leveling air suspension. Firestone does offer an additional rear air suspension.
I have nearly 23,000mi on my 3.0 and it's a beast! Lifetime 26.3 mpg last 5 months I've used it 6 days a week in a lot of short trips going up and down an 8 mile stretch, about 400 miles a week getting about 24mpg and 30+ on the highway
Any issues with the short trips? I work about 6 miles from my house and like to go home for lunch so 6 miles 4x per day would be normal. Considering the 3.0 but worry about the short trips on the diesel.
@TundraRunner32 so all they have told me is that you need to at least drive on the highway a few times a week. They didn't specify distance or time.
@@eduardopruneda3557 got it. But no issues yet?
I bought mine 9 months ago and have put 48k miles on it. Over 90% of that is with a 6k lbs trailer behind it. After installing a Roadmaster HD spring, I have no complaints when towing. The interior is not my favorite; the seats are too stiff. You can feel the pain in your rear end after driving for over 3 hours. No drivetrain failures or any maneuver problems. The forward assist warning was defective several times in clear weather; disconnecting the battery fixed that. Parking brakes kept failing to engage in the first 10k miles. I went to the dealer three times to switch out parts, and it runs well now.
Road feeling is nice, actually feels better than my ram with air suspension. The diesel has enough power most of the time.
The biggest disappointment is the automatic parking brake feature. There's no way to disable it, and all my trailers are parked on a slope. It’s horrible to keep accelerating when lining up the trailer 💀💀
Just bought one two weeks ago for road trips.
Awesome review! I’m looking at getting into a newer gmc pickup , 2021 or 2022. Are those 3.0 the same as the new trucks? I’ve always had 5.3 . I can’t believe the fuel mileage on those 3.0
I bought a ‘24 AT-4 in November with LZO 3 liter, it has a heavy duty 110 volt outlet in the bed that runs work tools and a 110 volt outlet in the interior console. GM must have listened!
I’ve had 3 Dodge eco-diesels, they all did pretty good on mileage, my ‘14 was the best. It would do 32 mpg or better at hwy speeds. My 15 had suspension issues and my ‘18 lost the motor under warranty luckily. Overall put around 250k on them total and loved driving them. However my new AT-4 blows them away! I must admit the Dodges seats were more comfy though.
Update we just drove from Boise Idaho to Cheyanne Wyoming today. The AT4 3 liter at 75 miles per hour the whole way, averaged over 28mpg. That’s a lot of up and down hill travel. We had 2 people plus 600 plus pounds of gear. We used to have a Dodge Eco-diesel but the motor went out, luckily under warranty. It was very close mileage wise but the GMC rides much nicer and has better features. Love the steering assist.
I also bought an everlasting comfort seat, it makes all the difference.
14 mpg is what I get with Silverado 5.3 on daily driving 😅
Thanks for the review. What would you estimate the fuel economy to be towing 3-4K with a trailer not as tall as rv? What rear axle ratio? Thanks
I have a 2023 Chevy 1500 LTZ with the 3L. I love the truck. The MPG on HWY is WONDERFUL!
for got it a 3.0 its amazingly quite for a diesel.
I question your mileage numbers from the direct competition. I drive for a large automotive group and brought back a Ram 1500 diesel from Green Bay WI to Toledo Ohio and it averaged 31 miles/gallon for the trip. Slightly lower than your 34 MPG but close. Nice looking truck.
👍!
I pull our camper have the longer wheelbase with the 6'-7" bed. I've towed with the shorter one as well, and there is definitely a difference. I wouldn't want to pull ours with the shorter one. 32' shadow cruiser.
I would love to see some head to head comparisons with the F150 powerboost
I have the same exact truck and the only thing that disappointed me was how much DEF it uses when I tow .
agree, yep seats and lack of 12v plugins and only problem with the google assistant, to get the full benefits, after the free trial expires, you need to subscribe to bare minimum On-star $15.00/month plan 😐
I wish that they would offer this engine in a long-box regular cab. I do not need the rear seat for my use case, but oh well. My concern is that, as a 1500, it will be too squishy. The "firm" seats sound good to me, so I guess I might go check it out.
I am averaging 23/24 on my AT4X, but I drive it like a total Pappy.
Agree, need 12v outlet!
10$ at autozone not a bad deal breaker for a truck with 30 mpg highway
Miss the seat in my 2016 Chevy. I have a 2022 GMC 3500 and would like to know what cushion you found that you like.
the problem that has plagued many small displacement diesel-powered vehicles is their use in frequent, short-haul trips that fail to achieve and sustain optimal engine temperatures leading to problems involving combustion waste build-up and other unexpected maintenance problems.
Wireless charger is in the perfect location and seems to charge the phone fine. Easy to forget phone is in there and leave it behind when exiting vehicle
Currently own a 2016 Denali 5.3 and now looking at a 24 with the diesel. What is your final drive gear ratio?
Your c plug with a c to c plug will charge fast, or your 110 with a fast charger will do it fast but stay c to c plug
Also looking right now with the 3.0L Duramax #1 consideration. Not only the amazing fuel economy but would also be a daily driver which pushes me away from the 2500...as the backup is the wifes Fiat 500. Thanks, but no thanks! Wish Denali offered the Max Tow Package as but available in lesser trims including the SLT I could live with. Switching to Chevy it is available in the High Country trim. That $800 option solved a lot of your issues with heavier rear springs, trailer tuned suspension, rear axel increased to 4100 lb from 3800, more of a towing 3.73 rear axel, but more important, the higher GVWR supports higher combined weight rating 15000 to 19000, conventional to raises the 8000 to 12900, tongue weight 800 to 1290 with load at 1675. Even with a RV similar to the Surveyor, that is almost a nobrainer for towing.
Can you do a video on the foam for the seat you did. I agree the seat are awful.
You are wrong about diesel vehicles getting better fuel economy!! I purchased a 2022 Denali Ultimate 1500 with the diesel. Am pulling a 27 foot Airstream. Comparing to my 2018 Hi Country with the 6.2 gas the diesel defiantly gets much better gas mileage However the diesel gets about 15-20 percent worse mileage pulling the trailer!! Also we travel a number of high mountain passes - Salmo Creston, Anarchist,Roger’s etc. and the truck will not keep up to the posted speed limit- 100 kms. per hour - in a number of stretches- was not a problem with the 6.2.
Love the Ultimate but a 2024 6.2 will be waiting for us in 2 weeks time.
I agree with you on the 12v, should have a minimum of 2. I also hate Gm seats, my titans are better my dad's 2018 Chevy hi country suck. Dislike driving it.
The MPG is insane.
8:50 The seats in GM trucks has always been what’s kept me out of them.
What rear end ratio do you have?Thinking my next one will the 3 liter.
Great Review! Have you tried the sierra/silverado with max towing package? I am thinking of getting one. Thanks!
Just asked basically the same question...did you get the tow max?
@@Kevin-midmichigan yes I got one it's an awesome truck so far. I haven't towed with it yet but will soon.
What seat cushions did you buy?
100% agree on the 12v and USB. Like, seriously. How does any modern truck let alone a top of the line trim on a luxurious truck like this have such low power USB ports and no 12V ports? Everyone has 12V accessories already and phones these days need way more power to charge at any reasonable rate. It's the same deal for their wireless charger. It charges at the same speed as the USB ports. And just craps an error half the time anyways.
The only thing I disagree with you on is having a wireless charger and Google services. A wireless charger that holds a phone well is a very nice thing to have in a vehicle, especially one with wireless Apple Carplay and Android Auto. The vast majority of people are going to use one of those because it is personalized (their own phone) and works amazingly well. It's vastly superior than any built-in system IMO. Heck, anyone with a Android phone already has all the same Google services via Android Auto, so what is the point? You have to pay a monthly fee even to use the Google services in the truck which is another obscenely stupid thing about it. I have heard that you may be able to tether a phone internet connection to the truck and use the built-in Google maps with GPS navigation without the ripoff OnStar subscription, but I'm not sure. But again, why not then just use Android Auto or Apple Carplay?
It always irks me how these companies cut corners just enough that it won't sway people away. I get it, especially in lower trims. They are a company, not a charity. Their goal is to make a profit and that is it. But on higher trims, there is no excuse. It is only because people still buy these trims. I'm sorry, but what exactly about this Denali is worth $15k-$20k more than my Elevation with premium package? The seats? The suspension? I have the 360 camera system, the Bose premium sound system, the bedliner, running boards, rear power window, adaptive cruise control, power moon roof, leather heated seats, heating steering wheel, 3.0L Duramax engine... And yet you get the same trash USB ports, wireless charger and lack of 12V. On a top of the line trim, everything should be top of the line IMO. Why spend so much more money just to still have much the same complaints about the truck? It's not hard to put in aftermarket seats or suspension if you must. But it's not like the lower trims have really bad seats or suspension. Both are just fine.
nice video, how would this compare to the Chevy version?
Pretty much the same truck. I personally like the front of the GMC better.
I just bought a 2024 trail boss with the 3.0L. Fuel economy and power puts my 2021 Tundra 5.7L to shame.
How’s the oil consumption?
Do you think the max tow package (13k) would be feasible for a 10k travel trailer in your opinion or would it just be too much for transmission in the long haul...trips roughly 2k round trip. Thanks
What rear bed cover do you have on your denali
Any oil consumption issues?
2016 silverado high country.
Most positive thing I can say about my truck is the seat comfort. Can drive 10 hours a day four days straight. Like a dream. Rest of the truck is a pos
Any crazy oil useage?
Please send me a link to your steering wheel cover. Love the channel.
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Thanks
What is the manufacturer of the Tannoeau cover?
What bed cover do you have?
You require the newer model!
It comes with max towing package, bringing it to 14000lbs towing
Sounds like you forgot about your noisy rear springs
Anyone know if the Denali Ultimate seats are more comfortable?
My roommate had a high country 3.0 dmx put 70k miles on it. It’s no good! They haven’t figured it out imo
The ford 2.7 in the f-150 can get about this mileage. I’ve had three and even the 6 speed (16’) was close. The 22’ f-150 I have now with the 10speed is right there.
that’s what’s i’m looking to get a 2.7 ecoboost 2022
Well that's easy when you're been towed
@@alextrujillo8528in with you 😂, I use this 2.7 ecoboost to tow my enclosed trailer 7x18 and I was getting 8 mpg, while my 3.0 lz0 duramax was getting 15-16 mpg, another thing is that the 2.7 gave me all kinds of problems you can think 💀, I even use the 3.5 and the 6.2, all fords, bro all of them including the 2.7 leave me stranded 2-3k miles away from home, as soon as I get to Chevy those problems stopped, I don’t want to know anything about fords never in my life
For those suffering from oil consumption check with your dealer re #22-NA-027 glow plug issue causing oil consumption along with DEF
Thought that was for the earlier 3.0 and not the LZ0 3.0??
What where your maintenance costs?
1 oil change. The first one was free.
Does the maintenance such as the diesels filters, diesel price, and DEF negate the savings you get from a diesel motor compared to the gas one?
There's a youtube video about this specific topic. Short answer is it depends on how long you plan on owning the truck. The longer you own the better the payback
@@bradpeterson5108 what’s that video called
@@kyleperry3748 GM 3.0L Diesel LM2 Engine vs 5.3L V8 Gas Engine Fuel Cost Comparison | Is The Diesel Worth It?
@@kyleperry3748 GM 3.0L Diesel LM2 Engine vs 5.3L V8 Gas Engine Fuel Cost Comparison | Is The Diesel Worth It?
@@kyleperry3748 GM 3.0L Diesel LM2 Engine vs 5.3L V8 Gas Engine Fuel Cost Comparison | Is The Diesel Worth It?
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Needs beathed up springs in back or mabe adjustable airbags