I have heard a few people speak negatively about the look of Loial in the show, he's not big enough, the ears don't twitch, etc, but what I have not heard is a single complaint about the performance, Hammed is nailing it!
Yeah, the performance is awesome, but I hope they refine the look a bit. And I cannot stand the pronunciation of his name. I wish the show would acknowledge that the audio books established how things are spoken.
Yess sir, hammed performance is the reason y looks r not looked into right now. The moment he spoke everyone knew that's loial. He looks different in books, he is 8 feet tall, dropping eyebrows,eyes big as a teacup and longs ears like elves that twitch, that's how all ogiers look, but ig they can't do all for a character and creatures that r not maincast in the show .
Abdul as Valda is gold, his acting as this vile blood-churning villain is perfect. Hammed as Loial is gold, so warm and scholarly and wise and eccentric. Perfect casting.
So happy they went into the detail about Stepin's funeral. I saw and heard so much chatter about how Daniel was acting out the intense emitional "feedback loop" between Lan and Moiraine when, to me, it seemed more like Lan was a conduit for EVERYONE'S pain and grief and that was the reason his renown stoicism broke in such a colossal way. Very gratifying to hear Daniel confirming this was more or less the story behind his acting choice.
I was so happy when I heard ”kulning” during the funeral scene - because that’s what we call it in my local dialect here in Sweden! Never thought I’d hear my home regions ancient herding call in a high budget american TV- show! :D
That funeral scene with the projected grief allowing a stoic Lan to become emotional was such a good way to do it. This was my favourite episode thus far. And the amount of detail astounds me.
That's a nice change. Usually people who have problems with the show are _really_ angry and deeply offended all the way to their core, and they want absolutely everybody to know it!
@Anne Day Yea, the sad and lonely people who want people to interact with them, but can't think of anything smart to say. And they see that people who say bad things about the show get a lot of responses so they think of the nastiest thing they can to get people to reply to them! I suppose the best way to deal with them is to downvote them and don't reply so that they disappear back under their bridge, and then upvote the genuine comments.
Honestly the first 4 books are 80% world building. As long as the plot stays similiar and we work on the world building in a different medium (the books do *not* translate well) I am happy :) )
The point was to show the bond after the Aes Sedai dies. What happens to a warder. Not just that they can kill themselves out of grief but some can find to strength to bond again. Something that will come back later and that was kind of important in the books.
As someone who has not read the books, this is one of my favourite shows at the moment. Hope it doesn't get cancelled because of all the salty naysayers.
It's already renewed through season 3. Hopefully it makes the full 8 they have planned. And yeah, the people that hate it most are its biggest "fans" that can't accept changes in a different medium.
I doubt it will get cancelled. The shows seems to be popular. Then again, wouldn't be the first time a show gets cancelled anyway. I really like the show, but I do have issues with it related to the production and the adaptation. Like things that don't really make sense, or the sacrifice of good book stuff for non-book sidesteps even though we only have eight episodes (I really hope the last two episodes aren't rushed). And it is obvious they are on a limited budget. For instance, I had to laugh a little when Logain's "army" invaded the Aes Sedai camp and then a few dozen men showed up. I have accepted that WoT won't have the same production value as Game of Thrones, but to at least make it look decent throughout, they'll need a lot more money for the VFX, real effects, extras, horses, costumes/armour, set pieces etc.
Emotion roller coaster. Detail oriented at its finest. Excellent. Keep a few of the streets a tad messy and then it will be certified 11/10. CERTIFIED!!!!
Phenomenal job. And extremely well explained for any of the trolling morons who want to comment about the series having nothing in common with the books, despite a laundry list of objective ways it's having the soul of these characters jump off the page.
They could have fixed this stupid look so easily by then having the aes sedai channel and bury them deeper or light the bodies on fire. The overhead shot would have held up with burning graves as well as it did with the white sheets.
You guys have no idea how much I appreciated this episode. It speaks on so many levels if you just stop and think for a moment how grief and depression can affect people. Loved it.
They're lucky they got Hamed for Loial because that's the ONLY thing they got right about the actors look. I'm hoping that if they can recast mat for season 2 then Loial can go get a haircut cos it just looks awful right now.
You are way out of touch with reality if you seriously think anyone besides yourself and a handful of nerds actually want to see a character with eyebrows down to his knees
the more it goes, the more it changes... looks like a parallel World to me.... Lan look too emotional to me.. in that scene, or does he get emotional because of Moraine?
This show is great, not sure if it’s a book adaption but I watched the last 5 episodes like 4 times already. I can’t remember moraines real name but she is a great actor, some flicks she’s in I just don’t watch those genres or types of movies, but even so she is fantastic, especially in this show. ( it is a book adaptation, that’s what I get for commenting before finishing clip 😂)
why did the funeral of Kerene and a whole bunch of other people lack the scope of Stepin's? it looks like one man's death is a huge deal -- and all these other people in the forest just get this really reserved and low-key sen-off.
Because Salli Richardson is a terrible director and Celine Song is a terrible scriptwriter. Both do not care about plot logic because they have no sense of what the characters and audiences think. They just fill in the checkboxes that they are assigned in episode 5, then try to make it look cool on it's on. Please get Wayne Yip to direct everything from now on
Because Stepin died at the White Tower while the others died in the wilderness where there are limited resources? Ironically, there's a comment here making a complaint totally opposite from yours, questioning why they were carrying so many shrouds and glasses (used for Kerene et al's funeral).
@@selina6408 you don't need much to wail, right? when Stepin brought Kerene's ring to melt -- there were only other Warders. the more I think about these scenes the more questions I have. (I have no questions as to the shrouds and glasses -- we've been shown that Aes Sedai travel with comfort, it is not a strecth). I have a real-life example to compare -- Russia is waging war against my country, Ukraine, and when another military dies on the front line, their bodies are carried to their home town and there people in the streets greet the fallen hero, some stand on their knees. isn't Kerene a war hero? doesn't she deserve more postmortem respect than her Warder who took his own life?
I'm glad you took out Caemlyn to waste time on Stepin. You fridged an Aes Sedi, to fridge her warder, to get Lan to yell. Many of your decisions do not make sense to me. If anyone wants an honest review and some better character choices that could have been made check out Shad's Knights Watch Wheel of Time reviews.
They've said multiple times Caemlyn is season 2. They didn't want to cast four long term main characters for like 5 minutes of screen time in this season. And its one less megaset to build for the season which was good for the budget. And Stephin... That... wasn't about the random warder. That was about Lan and Morraine. It was barely even subtext, it was practically text. That subplot demonstrated the warder bond, what happens when they lose it, what it means for someone to accept that bond, talked about if it could be transferred. If its possible to be in love with someone that isn't your Aes Sadai, so it was also about Nynaeve, and Morraine thinking about if she has any right to keep holding onto Lan.. It also addressed trauma in general which is a major thee of the series. It got across exposition and inner monologues that would have taken hours to do without examples, and did it all in a *subplot* in *one* episode. And if you've read the books, you KNOW why that will all be relevant later and why its important to introduce it before it happens. Yeah it was an invented subplot, but it consolidated and explained a ton of material and showcased it in memorable visceral way that just might just pay off later in a number of ways, given there's several later plotlines that development can spill into. Plus, it's a show, not a book, there needs to be plots that actually start and end within an episode occasionally. It can't always just be nonstop ongoing narrative.
@@robbybevard8034 this show is doing a horrible job adapting the book, and we all are witnessing it. Don't try to fool us with some bullshit explanation
@@robbybevard8034 I agree they had to trim stuff out, but instead of focusing on the main events of the books, we have almost two whole episodes of made up content, episode 5 is mainly made of "sad warder being sad". Not even gonna mention the main trio of boys that barely have enough screen time and are nothing like they are in the books.
@@vladskii9779 how dare you pretend to have screen time for the boys when the women are the only one that counts, here? Are you a bad person? Shame on you
Great behind the scenes. Personally I am having fun with the show. I was not a fan of Loial's look though... the performance saved the character for me 'cause the actor NAILED IT! That said... is it just me or does the look of 5.39 with shorter hair and no beard looks WAY BETTER? We can appreciate a lot more the ears and without the beard it just looks way better IMHO.
Loial really great amazingly done! But the funeral stuff and Stepin story was way off. IYI comes to my mind. No doubt these show runners and writers are really smart and intellectual but yet idiots, IYI. They are So intellectualthat, that they made two funerals in one eposiode containing Nordic and Mongolian singing, female and male, but yet idiots to miss the obvious that nobody (most readers and new audiences) cares about that. They could have shown this in a multiple ways but yet they did it in the most boring way possible. Fascinating. I hope the show gets 8 season. The original story is so good that it survives some destroyed episodes etc. I’m biased and will give it a 7/10 so far.
The crazy obsessive book readers are salty in these comments lol.. get a life of course not everything can be adapted 100 % what did u think seriously especially with a fantasy series like this one
This adaptation is straight out trash. That's what people are complaining about, not some minor changes, but of course you all can't stand critique and backlash from the book fans, nor can you try to actually listen
@@xxMARIExxxx saying this is trash is good and constructive criticism, so these fuckheads can understand the job they have done is trash. How can I be crearer than this?
Seriously the worst book adaptation I have ever seen. Totally fucked this story up. It's so sad because this is probably one of the GREATEST series I have ever read. They should get rid of the producers, directors, and whoever else is responsible for this travesty.
As someone that read the books in real time as they came out I’m afraid to watch this ! I’m afraid you will ruin it smh ! I’ll have to wait to see how many seasons come out cause if there isn’t at least 12 seasons they aren’t telling the story correctly!
They are talking maybe 8 seasons. I promise you will be really annoyed over some things. You will hate some things down to your toenails. You will love some things. And some things you will just kind of think about. I have to watch each episode twice: once to get over the inevitable aggravation, and once to just watch the episode without surprises. You might like it. You might hate it. What is helping me is to remind myself that Brandon Sanderson knows what they're going to be doing, and approves of all the things except for one thing. I won't say, since it's a spoiler.
Right ? I mean no shade to the actor he’s really really tall but loial isn’t just tall, he can outrun a horse! I guess as with all things in life it must’ve been scrapped to save money and invest it into the cgi for the channeling.
I agree. Its not like that would have increased the budget. I mean they were doing it 20 years ago on Lord of the Rings. They could get the Trollocs the right heigh and look book accurate, but they dropped the ball on Loial's look.
@@tay-dor7147 Trollocs are in scattered occasional scenes. You can afford to do 10 hours of makeup and camera tricks when you only need a handful of shots. Loial is going to be in the main group constantly interacting with them. Start adding size tricks to him and he becomes an extra cost every time he shows up which eventually leads to his getting cut. LotR had an 100 million budget per 2 hours of footage per movie. WoT has an 80 million budget for 8 hours of footage. Just because a film can afford the time and budget to do a thing doesn't mean a show can. Same with full CG characters.
Go back and watch the special features for The Fellowship of the Ring again and remember that those "camera tricks" are so much more than just using the camera. They had to make multiple sizes of every prop and set, that crazy moving rig that let them do tracking shots while keeping Gandalf huge and so much more than just "camera tricks". Those things cost money.
Love the work Hammed did as Loial. Absolutely believe the costuming and design of his look completely dropped the ball. Even if I agree with the budget being a factor, they could have done simple in camera forced perspectives to make Loial at least be the right height. We got book accurate Trollocs but they couldn't be bothered to get a book accurate fan-favorite main character?
Trollocs are in scattered occasional scenes. You can afford to do 10 hours of makeup and camera tricks when you only need a handful of shots. Loial is going to be in the main group constantly interacting with them. Start adding size tricks to him and he becomes an extra cost every time he shows up which eventually leads to his getting cut. And they ARE doing some camera work to make him look bigger, just not 10 feet tall.
@@tay-dor7147 Go back and watch the special features for The Fellowship of the Ring again and remember that those "camera tricks" are so much more than just using the camera. They had to make multiple sizes of every prop and set, that crazy moving rig that let them do tracking shots while keeping Gandalf huge and so much more than just "camera tricks". Those things cost money.
It's a disaster. I hope the series will be cancelled, what's the point of continuing if you can't even keep the story of the books straight, and on top of that, cinematographically it's even worse, VFX leaves something to be desired. Just stop and let other people take care of it.
If it gets cancelled nobody will 'take care of it'. Nobody will touch it again for decades, maybe never, because it failed. If you don't like it fine, but hoping for it to fail is mean-spirited & won't get you anything. So far most people watching it, love it. If you really care for the books, then hope for it to continue to grow so it can evolve into something both you, happy book-readers and the newbees can enjoy.
The episode could have been used to build up Rand's arc more. He's had 0 development or internal conflict this whole season. Which is VERY odd considering he's the main POV character in the first book and... you know... something else as well... Yes, the funerals and Stepin's grief was very touching but it really wasn't all that necessary.
Because they're falling into the same trap as STD (Star Trek) and mistaking melodrama for meaningful character development. Look at how well that's turned out for Michael Burns
Why didn’t u make it longer space with the spoilers… if u look through comment u can immediately see it… dumbest comment on earth. Please redo it many will probably say the same. Thanks for the poorest written spoiler alert ever,..
Visually on par with the other episodes, but defies logic which makes me back out of my immersion. Why were they carrying so many clean white shrouds and broken murky brown glasses? And the funeral at the end is cool in concept, but not in execution, because it's not like Lan was an empath and could really absorb everyone's grief. Loial's actor did a good job under the limited scenes he was given. But his character was so cardboard, no background no personality other than the standard Ogier personality. Loial is adventurous and wants to write the book of the dragon reborn. And he should definitely have pointed out the greatest oddity of an Aiel using a sword. Salli Richardson is a terrible director and Celine Song is a terrible scriptwriter. Both do not care about plot logic because they have no sense of what the characters and audiences think. They just fill in the checkboxes that they are assigned in episode 5, then try to make it look cool on it's on. Please get Wayne Yip to direct everything from now on
I really hope those people who were criticising lan crying watch this, atleast they will understand why he was the only one of the warders who was crying.
Best to just ignore those people as they likely watch with pitchfork in hand and never hand any intention of enjoying an adaptation. Sadly, I doubt this will change that. It's baffling how someone could expect a book series with upwards of 4 million words to not have pretty substantial amounts of changes when going to screen.
Having Lan show grief especially in such a dramatic, prolonged, and public fashion is completely antithetical to his character. Daniel Henney even says in this video, and I quote "Lan is someone who doesn't show emotion. So I struggled with that a lot." These actors/actresses arguably know better than most the spirit of the characters they are meant to portray. So if Henney is struggling with the show's writing for his character then it's not far fetched that book fans might feel the same way.
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Say a prayer for the dead, al'Lan Mandragoran, and ride on.
I have heard a few people speak negatively about the look of Loial in the show, he's not big enough, the ears don't twitch, etc, but what I have not heard is a single complaint about the performance, Hammed is nailing it!
It's the hair man, WTH were they thinking. They're lucky the actor is good enough to (literally) let you look past that thing
Yeah, the performance is awesome, but I hope they refine the look a bit. And I cannot stand the pronunciation of his name. I wish the show would acknowledge that the audio books established how things are spoken.
Yess sir, hammed performance is the reason y looks r not looked into right now. The moment he spoke everyone knew that's loial. He looks different in books, he is 8 feet tall, dropping eyebrows,eyes big as a teacup and longs ears like elves that twitch, that's how all ogiers look, but ig they can't do all for a character and creatures that r not maincast in the show .
Trivial complaints from trivial people.
@Anne Day True. I still wish they would say it differently, it's one of those things that yanks me out of the fantasy every time.
I never even heard of this show , Actually I clicked this by accident 😆 but Its love at first sight 🤷🏽♀️now im bout to go binge watch it & catch up 🥴
Abdul as Valda is gold, his acting as this vile blood-churning villain is perfect.
Hammed as Loial is gold, so warm and scholarly and wise and eccentric.
Perfect casting.
Abdul is outstanding as valda, his mannerisms and the way he speaks just has this sinister vibe to it.
These shows hinge on hiw good your baddies are. Let's hope the actors cast as the forsaken are up to the same level as abdul.
Calling someone Abdul makes no sense. His name, his first name, is Abdul Salis. If you absolutely must shorten his name, call him Salis.
Wait. A villain? I truly shouldn't read much of the comments however he seemed sus but didn't expect "villain" type
Valda is disgusting and the way his character makes my blood boil is a testament at how great the actor's performance.
So happy they went into the detail about Stepin's funeral. I saw and heard so much chatter about how Daniel was acting out the intense emitional "feedback loop" between Lan and Moiraine when, to me, it seemed more like Lan was a conduit for EVERYONE'S pain and grief and that was the reason his renown stoicism broke in such a colossal way. Very gratifying to hear Daniel confirming this was more or less the story behind his acting choice.
I was so happy when I heard ”kulning” during the funeral scene - because that’s what we call it in my local dialect here in Sweden! Never thought I’d hear my home regions ancient herding call in a high budget american TV- show! :D
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That funeral scene with the projected grief allowing a stoic Lan to become emotional was such a good way to do it. This was my favourite episode thus far. And the amount of detail astounds me.
Barney Harris saying "Hey" . Gonna miss that man
I hope they tell us why he was recast
Right? I just rewinded that part 3 times cause i'm just happy to see more Barney, i'll miss him in the show. Hope he is ok.
I am really sad that they didn't even have him at the premier. He's just SO good at being Mat.
Love this series to no end:-)!
Loved Loial and can't wait to see more of him! Hammed knocked it out of the park.
Between a more accurate appearance and seeing Loial in more scenes, the choice is obvious... more please!
My fave show right now. So fun. So layered with meaning. Superb acting. Beautiful sets. Love it.
So very beautiful indeed...the sounds, the tone, the pitch...🙂
It's for the first time I love a show like that, so perfect.
It is different, and I have some critiques….. but I’m enjoying it.
That's a nice change. Usually people who have problems with the show are _really_ angry and deeply offended all the way to their core, and they want absolutely everybody to know it!
@Anne Day Yea, the sad and lonely people who want people to interact with them, but can't think of anything smart to say.
And they see that people who say bad things about the show get a lot of responses so they think of the nastiest thing they can to get people to reply to them!
I suppose the best way to deal with them is to downvote them and don't reply so that they disappear back under their bridge, and then upvote the genuine comments.
Oooh, I hadn't noticed those details about the funerals. I feel they did a really fine job with both
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I enjoy the show but I don’t understand the point of stepin getting so much screen time if there’s only 8 episodes and they are short on time
Honestly the first 4 books are 80% world building. As long as the plot stays similiar and we work on the world building in a different medium (the books do *not* translate well) I am happy :) )
The point was to show the bond after the Aes Sedai dies. What happens to a warder. Not just that they can kill themselves out of grief but some can find to strength to bond again. Something that will come back later and that was kind of important in the books.
@@boli2746 well said. If I was making the show I would have probably skipped the first book lol
@@boli2746 they really aren't
@@nerdturas detail me when they are *not* world building.
As someone who has not read the books, this is one of my favourite shows at the moment. Hope it doesn't get cancelled because of all the salty naysayers.
Salty naysayers is an interesting way to refer to people who just wanted the book story to make it to the show.
@@NOMACD people who say nay to the show because they’re salty that it isn’t like the books. seems pretty accurate just looking at the comments here
It's already renewed through season 3. Hopefully it makes the full 8 they have planned.
And yeah, the people that hate it most are its biggest "fans" that can't accept changes in a different medium.
I doubt it will get cancelled. The shows seems to be popular. Then again, wouldn't be the first time a show gets cancelled anyway. I really like the show, but I do have issues with it related to the production and the adaptation. Like things that don't really make sense, or the sacrifice of good book stuff for non-book sidesteps even though we only have eight episodes (I really hope the last two episodes aren't rushed). And it is obvious they are on a limited budget. For instance, I had to laugh a little when Logain's "army" invaded the Aes Sedai camp and then a few dozen men showed up.
I have accepted that WoT won't have the same production value as Game of Thrones, but to at least make it look decent throughout, they'll need a lot more money for the VFX, real effects, extras, horses, costumes/armour, set pieces etc.
Emotion roller coaster. Detail oriented at its finest. Excellent. Keep a few of the streets a tad messy and then it will be certified 11/10. CERTIFIED!!!!
Phenomenal job. And extremely well explained for any of the trolling morons who want to comment about the series having nothing in common with the books, despite a laundry list of objective ways it's having the soul of these characters jump off the page.
My only real issue is the total change in Nynaeve's background. 'cause she's a little aggro to have been raised by a Wisdom herself.
Can't wait for tomorrow's video to explain the costume design for siuan sanche ......flame of tar valon
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The Ajah colors really popped in the snow. Very cool!
The actors are great but this show really needs a bigger budget pr. episode, and a few more episodes per season.
I planted my tomatos deeper than this graves...
Lol
It was really shallow 😂
They could have fixed this stupid look so easily by then having the aes sedai channel and bury them deeper or light the bodies on fire. The overhead shot would have held up with burning graves as well as it did with the white sheets.
Obsessed with this show!!
You guys have no idea how much I appreciated this episode. It speaks on so many levels if you just stop and think for a moment how grief and depression can affect people. Loved it.
They're lucky they got Hamed for Loial because that's the ONLY thing they got right about the actors look. I'm hoping that if they can recast mat for season 2 then Loial can go get a haircut cos it just looks awful right now.
Seriously? He isn't even close. Looks like a character from The Wiz.
I'm enjoying the series , not what I expected and the multiple heroes is enjoyable, so many characters to invest in.
I was really looking forward to Loial's knee-length eyebrows. Those eyebrows are half his communication. Do better Prime
What sounds neat on the page would look ridiculous in actual live action.
You are way out of touch with reality if you seriously think anyone besides yourself and a handful of nerds actually want to see a character with eyebrows down to his knees
the more it goes, the more it changes... looks like a parallel World to me.... Lan look too emotional to me.. in that scene, or does he get emotional because of Moraine?
This show is great, not sure if it’s a book adaption but I watched the last 5 episodes like 4 times already. I can’t remember moraines real name but she is a great actor, some flicks she’s in I just don’t watch those genres or types of movies, but even so she is fantastic, especially in this show. ( it is a book adaptation, that’s what I get for commenting before finishing clip 😂)
why did the funeral of Kerene and a whole bunch of other people lack the scope of Stepin's? it looks like one man's death is a huge deal -- and all these other people in the forest just get this really reserved and low-key sen-off.
Because Salli Richardson is a terrible director and Celine Song is a terrible scriptwriter. Both do not care about plot logic because they have no sense of what the characters and audiences think. They just fill in the checkboxes that they are assigned in episode 5, then try to make it look cool on it's on.
Please get Wayne Yip to direct everything from now on
Because Stepin died at the White Tower while the others died in the wilderness where there are limited resources? Ironically, there's a comment here making a complaint totally opposite from yours, questioning why they were carrying so many shrouds and glasses (used for Kerene et al's funeral).
@@selina6408 you don't need much to wail, right? when Stepin brought Kerene's ring to melt -- there were only other Warders. the more I think about these scenes the more questions I have. (I have no questions as to the shrouds and glasses -- we've been shown that Aes Sedai travel with comfort, it is not a strecth). I have a real-life example to compare -- Russia is waging war against my country, Ukraine, and when another military dies on the front line, their bodies are carried to their home town and there people in the streets greet the fallen hero, some stand on their knees. isn't Kerene a war hero? doesn't she deserve more postmortem respect than her Warder who took his own life?
I'm glad you took out Caemlyn to waste time on Stepin. You fridged an Aes Sedi, to fridge her warder, to get Lan to yell. Many of your decisions do not make sense to me. If anyone wants an honest review and some better character choices that could have been made check out Shad's Knights Watch Wheel of Time reviews.
We will still see Caemlyn
They've said multiple times Caemlyn is season 2. They didn't want to cast four long term main characters for like 5 minutes of screen time in this season. And its one less megaset to build for the season which was good for the budget.
And Stephin... That... wasn't about the random warder. That was about Lan and Morraine. It was barely even subtext, it was practically text. That subplot demonstrated the warder bond, what happens when they lose it, what it means for someone to accept that bond, talked about if it could be transferred. If its possible to be in love with someone that isn't your Aes Sadai, so it was also about Nynaeve, and Morraine thinking about if she has any right to keep holding onto Lan.. It also addressed trauma in general which is a major thee of the series. It got across exposition and inner monologues that would have taken hours to do without examples, and did it all in a *subplot* in *one* episode.
And if you've read the books, you KNOW why that will all be relevant later and why its important to introduce it before it happens.
Yeah it was an invented subplot, but it consolidated and explained a ton of material and showcased it in memorable visceral way that just might just pay off later in a number of ways, given there's several later plotlines that development can spill into.
Plus, it's a show, not a book, there needs to be plots that actually start and end within an episode occasionally. It can't always just be nonstop ongoing narrative.
@@robbybevard8034 this show is doing a horrible job adapting the book, and we all are witnessing it. Don't try to fool us with some bullshit explanation
Made me cry all over again
Loved this episode.
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The difference in that pair of tones also shows how they are connected.
Nothing like the books 😐
It's plenty like the books. At a much faster pace. This was never going to be a 20 year 400 episode series.
@@robbybevard8034 I agree they had to trim stuff out, but instead of focusing on the main events of the books, we have almost two whole episodes of made up content, episode 5 is mainly made of "sad warder being sad". Not even gonna mention the main trio of boys that barely have enough screen time and are nothing like they are in the books.
@@vladskii9779 how dare you pretend to have screen time for the boys when the women are the only one that counts, here? Are you a bad person? Shame on you
Bring moments, characters and plot-points from book 1 to screen: 🤬
Introduce, develop and kill off made-up show-only characters: 🤩
105 sheesh
Hammond in full make-up reminds me very much of Worf (who was my favorite).
Great behind the scenes. Personally I am having fun with the show. I was not a fan of Loial's look though... the performance saved the character for me 'cause the actor NAILED IT!
That said... is it just me or does the look of 5.39 with shorter hair and no beard looks WAY BETTER? We can appreciate a lot more the ears and without the beard it just looks way better IMHO.
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Read almost all the books in prison…this is crazy they made a show!!!!
and totally unneeded episode🙁
waste of time 🤬
That is one scary mask..it brings to mind medicine man an deadly warrior..yikes
Thanos thought he was saving people too lol.
I didn’t know sallie was a director too
Loial really great amazingly done! But the funeral stuff and Stepin story was way off. IYI comes to my mind. No doubt these show runners and writers are really smart and intellectual but yet idiots, IYI. They are So intellectualthat, that they made two funerals in one eposiode containing Nordic and Mongolian singing, female and male, but yet idiots to miss the obvious that nobody (most readers and new audiences) cares about that. They could have shown this in a multiple ways but yet they did it in the most boring way possible. Fascinating. I hope the show gets 8 season. The original story is so good that it survives some destroyed episodes etc. I’m biased and will give it a 7/10 so far.
The crazy obsessive book readers are salty in these comments lol.. get a life of course not everything can be adapted 100 % what did u think seriously especially with a fantasy series like this one
This adaptation is straight out trash. That's what people are complaining about, not some minor changes, but of course you all can't stand critique and backlash from the book fans, nor can you try to actually listen
@@jurgenparkour9337 lmao found a triggered one saying something is trash is in no way constructive criticism.. get a grip
@@xxMARIExxxx saying this is trash is good and constructive criticism, so these fuckheads can understand the job they have done is trash. How can I be crearer than this?
Loial is a fun character
Looks like a character from The Wiz.
Everyone do yourself a favor andnrwad the books...the show is terrible and they're "black washing" white characters lol
Seriously the worst book adaptation I have ever seen. Totally fucked this story up. It's so sad because this is probably one of the GREATEST series I have ever read. They should get rid of the producers, directors, and whoever else is responsible for this travesty.
As someone that read the books in real time as they came out I’m afraid to watch this ! I’m afraid you will ruin it smh ! I’ll have to wait to see how many seasons come out cause if there isn’t at least 12 seasons they aren’t telling the story correctly!
They are talking maybe 8 seasons. I promise you will be really annoyed over some things. You will hate some things down to your toenails. You will love some things. And some things you will just kind of think about. I have to watch each episode twice: once to get over the inevitable aggravation, and once to just watch the episode without surprises. You might like it. You might hate it. What is helping me is to remind myself that Brandon Sanderson knows what they're going to be doing, and approves of all the things except for one thing. I won't say, since it's a spoiler.
I wish this show was better. Here's to hoping it improves.
I love the actor playing Loial I just wish they'd have used forced perspective to get his size right.
Right ? I mean no shade to the actor he’s really really tall but loial isn’t just tall, he can outrun a horse! I guess as with all things in life it must’ve been scrapped to save money and invest it into the cgi for the channeling.
I agree. Its not like that would have increased the budget. I mean they were doing it 20 years ago on Lord of the Rings. They could get the Trollocs the right heigh and look book accurate, but they dropped the ball on Loial's look.
@@tay-dor7147 Trollocs are in scattered occasional scenes. You can afford to do 10 hours of makeup and camera tricks when you only need a handful of shots. Loial is going to be in the main group constantly interacting with them.
Start adding size tricks to him and he becomes an extra cost every time he shows up which eventually leads to his getting cut.
LotR had an 100 million budget per 2 hours of footage per movie. WoT has an 80 million budget for 8 hours of footage. Just because a film can afford the time and budget to do a thing doesn't mean a show can. Same with full CG characters.
That would required actual effort into doing a good job
Go back and watch the special features for The Fellowship of the Ring again and remember that those "camera tricks" are so much more than just using the camera. They had to make multiple sizes of every prop and set, that crazy moving rig that let them do tracking shots while keeping Gandalf huge and so much more than just "camera tricks". Those things cost money.
So are Perrin’s eyes only going to turn golden when he’s fighting or communicating with the wolves, instead of permanently like the books?
Love the work Hammed did as Loial. Absolutely believe the costuming and design of his look completely dropped the ball. Even if I agree with the budget being a factor, they could have done simple in camera forced perspectives to make Loial at least be the right height. We got book accurate Trollocs but they couldn't be bothered to get a book accurate fan-favorite main character?
Trollocs are in scattered occasional scenes. You can afford to do 10 hours of makeup and camera tricks when you only need a handful of shots. Loial is going to be in the main group constantly interacting with them.
Start adding size tricks to him and he becomes an extra cost every time he shows up which eventually leads to his getting cut.
And they ARE doing some camera work to make him look bigger, just not 10 feet tall.
@@robbybevard8034 Think he was in fewer scenes than the Trollocs were. LOL
@@tay-dor7147 Yes... so far. But he's going to be in the majority of the next two episodes and a regular in all the seasons that follow.
@@robbybevard8034 Yup Still could d in camera tricks to make him the correct height. Bare minimum they should be able to do.
@@tay-dor7147 Go back and watch the special features for The Fellowship of the Ring again and remember that those "camera tricks" are so much more than just using the camera. They had to make multiple sizes of every prop and set, that crazy moving rig that let them do tracking shots while keeping Gandalf huge and so much more than just "camera tricks". Those things cost money.
Local is amazing,hair looks ridiculous but hey,shows great,I'd give it a 7/10 , what it really need was more episodes to flush out the story
Would have much prefered Lan to stay stoic and not be the screamer.
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It's a disaster. I hope the series will be cancelled, what's the point of continuing if you can't even keep the story of the books straight, and on top of that, cinematographically it's even worse, VFX leaves something to be desired. Just stop and let other people take care of it.
If it gets cancelled nobody will 'take care of it'. Nobody will touch it again for decades, maybe never, because it failed. If you don't like it fine, but hoping for it to fail is mean-spirited & won't get you anything. So far most people watching it, love it. If you really care for the books, then hope for it to continue to grow so it can evolve into something both you, happy book-readers and the newbees can enjoy.
@@angelavm84 Ewe sound great.
@@angelavm84 I hope that's the case, at this point
Loial's wig is great!
I can't tell whether that's sarcasm, but if not, then you're the first. And I think that's genuinely cool. I'm adjusting to it.
@@Rennies-World I genuinely like Loial's wig and wasn't sure it was one.
@@angellover02171 It definitely is. He looks very different. At least he did at the premier in London. Seems like a really nice guy, too.
Funeral, stepin and Kerene: waste of time, inconsequential and boring
The episode could have been used to build up Rand's arc more. He's had 0 development or internal conflict this whole season. Which is VERY odd considering he's the main POV character in the first book and... you know... something else as well...
Yes, the funerals and Stepin's grief was very touching but it really wasn't all that necessary.
Our lad needs development!
Because they're falling into the same trap as STD (Star Trek) and mistaking melodrama for meaningful character development. Look at how well that's turned out for Michael Burns
They don’t want non book readers to know he’s the DR yet
They are two busy obsfucating who the Dragon Reborn is.
Why didn’t u make it longer space with the spoilers… if u look through comment u can immediately see it… dumbest comment on earth. Please redo it many will probably say the same. Thanks for the poorest written spoiler alert ever,..
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Visually on par with the other episodes, but defies logic which makes me back out of my immersion. Why were they carrying so many clean white shrouds and broken murky brown glasses? And the funeral at the end is cool in concept, but not in execution, because it's not like Lan was an empath and could really absorb everyone's grief.
Loial's actor did a good job under the limited scenes he was given. But his character was so cardboard, no background no personality other than the standard Ogier personality. Loial is adventurous and wants to write the book of the dragon reborn. And he should definitely have pointed out the greatest oddity of an Aiel using a sword.
Salli Richardson is a terrible director and Celine Song is a terrible scriptwriter. Both do not care about plot logic because they have no sense of what the characters and audiences think. They just fill in the checkboxes that they are assigned in episode 5, then try to make it look cool on it's on.
Please get Wayne Yip to direct everything from now on
Lan was metaphorically taking on people's grief in a symbolic grieving ritual. He's not literally feeling everyone grief.
I really hope those people who were criticising lan crying watch this, atleast they will understand why he was the only one of the warders who was crying.
Best to just ignore those people as they likely watch with pitchfork in hand and never hand any intention of enjoying an adaptation. Sadly, I doubt this will change that.
It's baffling how someone could expect a book series with upwards of 4 million words to not have pretty substantial amounts of changes when going to screen.
Having Lan show grief especially in such a dramatic, prolonged, and public fashion is completely antithetical to his character. Daniel Henney even says in this video, and I quote "Lan is someone who doesn't show emotion. So I struggled with that a lot." These actors/actresses arguably know better than most the spirit of the characters they are meant to portray. So if Henney is struggling with the show's writing for his character then it's not far fetched that book fans might feel the same way.
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You could of used a bunch of this time explaining whats going on with Elias. And Perrin.. this warder stuff should of been used in later seasons
What song like a kind of ad
It's so bad 😂. Pure incompetence on almost every level.
Already had 1 comment deleted. Guess it hit a little to close to home.
It’s really disappointing
Oof.
A lot of makeup for a terrible adaptation. Go to Audible and listen to the source material because this show is a dumpster fire.
Loial, Eamon, Fain: lovely. Please spend your time and budget on things that matter instead of wasting it on random things like the funeral