How To Fix A Honda Powered Mantis Rototiller With A $12 Carburetor
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- How To Fix A Honda Powered Mantis Rototiller With A $12 Carburetor. Dealer was going to charge $120, rip off!! BUYER BEWARE! Here's how to save $100-200 on a NEW CARB. $12 FIX!!
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I have bought a few of these knock off carbs for some of my equipment. They have been working fine for several years.
I have gotten a couple of duds but for the price I put them in the parts bucket and order another one. Just like Steve said I have had to do very little tuning.
Bought a mower with a briggs and stratton engine about 3 years ago on marketplace. Wasnt running. Bought a carb off amazon for £11 with delivery. Watched one if Steve's videos and i was away. Took about half a beer. Been running like a swiss watch ever since. Thanks Steve. 👍🏻
Right on buddy! You're Welcome...
I did the same thing with my Stihl FS45 trimmer and it was somewhere around $15-20 for the carburetor and it worked beautifully! What was even better was the original carburetor was non-adjustable and the replacement had both the high and low adjusting needles!
Awesome!
Great advice. Switched to aftermarket parts years ago. Never regretted it.
Right on
Kind of regret using them but the cost difference makes up for it. Sadly.
Good trick with tasting a different finger!! Only 1 other comment about it.
I purchased a carb for my weedeater. Came with new lines, fuel filter and adjusting wrench. All for about $10. I can replace every few years at that price.
Awesome to see you back to do in fix-it videos. Way to go. My four-year-old daughter and I watch you whenever you do videos like this. Rest of the time I’ll watch them but she has no interest. Lol.
Great video! I had the exact same issue with my Mantis. I actually paid $16 off Amazon (US) for my carburetor, so I must have gotten ripped off! Lol! However, the install went great and my tiller is working just fine now, after a tiny adjustment to the "low" adjustment screw.
Right on buddy! Thank You...
I have used many of the cheapo carbs. they all work fine. BTW I recently repaired my small refrigerator with a $6.50 thermostat.
Unfortunately the US cannot even come close, and I think the OEM is also made in China!
Great fix. I hear the Mantus two stroke tillers are great also. Thanks for another great video.
Needed a fuel shutoff solenoid for my B&S, local dealer was $79.00 for part. Checked online and B&S ran between $70.00 and $100. 00. I figured B&S was outsourcing this so I bought the aftermarket part for $9.95 fit and worked perfect.
Right on
What timing , I just had a guy ask me about that same motor , same symptoms, when he brings it in I got the cure lol 😊 thanks Steve .
Right on Buddy!
Did exactly the same as you did with a Stihl MS250 Chainsaw, Carb Diaphragm Kit was going to be £16.50, and an Amazon replacement Carb was £14 delivered the next day.
No brainer, give it a go and keep the original Carb just in case it all goes tits up.
That was 18 Months ago, and the Stihl is still running like a champion...
Right on
Thanks for the video. Used it to replace the carb on my mantis. Started right up.
You're Welcome...
Good to see that aftermarket replacements work just fine. I tried these knock off carbs on some Equipment and they still work like they should do. No notable difference to the OEM ones. So yeah, definetly worth trying it 👍🏻
Agreed!
I bought a late 70's Snapper snowblower it was running kind of rough after it warmed up. Went on line and the carb rebuild kit was $12 and a new carb was $15. Installed the new carb and its runs great.
Right on
I have a Troy-Built generator, 2005 model. About 3 years ago, it got to where it would hardly run. I don’t remember the brand of carb, but a kit was over $70 and an OEM carb was $120. I bought an aftermarket carb off of Amazon for just over $20. Like you said, identical, quick swap, and it ran perfectly. In fact, it was better than it ever was. It’s whole life, it took three or four pills to start. Now it’s 50/50 whether it starts on first pull, or if it will take a second. It probably won’t last as long as the OEM, but I’ll just replace it again if needed. I’ve got about 5 more changes before the $ are about even. Love your channel. Thanks for helping us all out with info/tips/entertainment!
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One of the checkvalves in the part underneath the purgebulb where the return line is connected is bad. Had the same issue with a hand held makita 4 stroke blower with a Walbro WYL-218 carb.
I got a chinese carb off Amazon for my old Honda 300 4 wheeler. The new carb cost less than a rebuild kit from the dealer and worked great.
Right on
@@StevesSmallEngineSaloon one of these days could you do a episode on zero turn maintenance, trouble shooting, etc?
I’ve done that many times myself Steve the carb kit cost more then the Amazon carb cost with less work I have 2 that just came in the shop with the same problem old gas left in the unit cheaper to replace the carburetor with a Amazon carb the rebuild the original carbonic. Great video Steve thanks for sharing with all the customers out there.
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Paid $15 USD for a new carb in my Echo tiller. $90 for the OEM version. I am happy to loan my tiller out because I only use it twice a year. The trick, as you surely know, is to run engeered fuel through the system between uses.
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Steve, watched your video on the carburetor and was able to fix my Craftsman tiller that I could not get any oem parts for. Ordered one on Amazon and with the video about cleaning the rusty tank with gravel, got it going for around $25 and I had actually considered scraping it and buying a new one. Just to let you know aquarium gravel works great. Thanks for the video and thanks for the help.
Thank You...and You're Welcome...
Great to see thanks!
I did the same job on a GX25 powered version.
Nice work!
I put a new $9 carb on my Stihl MS180. Works perfectly.
Right on
Thanks for the tip. I will remember to open the fuel cap before popping fuel lines of a carb from now on. I have had good luck with cheap Amazon carbs over the years.
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As easy as those are to change I would have cleaned the original first. Sometimes the aftermarket carbs don't run right. I have ordered them and the bore has been larger than the original and the jets larger and they still would not run off choke. I cleaned the old carb and used the needle and bowl gaskets off the China carb and it ran perfect.
my folks bought a mantis when they originally came out and bought a used honda lookalike for the mantis a few years back, the honda's little more effective than the mantis, but they both do pretty good at sitting for months and then running on demand.
Both great engines with quality carburetors and they're a little more resilient than the rest especially the Honda!
I did the very same with an Earthquake tiller I have. It never wanted to start easy but ran pretty good once I got it started and was that way for a couple of years then last year it wouldn’t start at all. I got the very same carburetor from Amazon slapped it on and now it starts easy and runs even better than before. For 12 bucks I’m happy!
Fixed my neighbors push mower last summer and got the carb, hose, filter, replacement filter housing, etc.. on ebay for a hair over $20 worked just great on the mower. Sometimes OEM is just charging for the name. That OEM might be manufactured by the same company making the non OEM. Found that out when I purchased some generic batteries for an older Ryobi drill. Peeled the Ryobi sticker off the old battery and underneath was the same brand name as the two new batteries. So yeah if it works it works. I have also found that even OEM parts can be just as crappy as some generic parts nothing's ever perfect.
WOW!
Great video Steve!!! Hard to pay the OEM price compared to the knock off….. it works as it should and the cost comparison is ridiculous!!!!
Agreed!
Did the same thing on my Mantis tiller. Perfect
Right on
Great Video..
I did this exactly the same thing 3 years ago to the one I have.. Have had no more problems since..
Works great..
Did this on a few other mowers and blowers and worked great.
Thanks for sharing..
Stay safe and always be kind.
Cheers
You're Welcome...
During the startup I thought Steve was going to show how to turn a rototiller into a wood chipper.
Thanks for another great video! I've learned so many little things from your channel over the years.
My 2 stroke Mantis 7225 has run poorly since I bought it on CL ten years ago. The guy sold it because it ran poorly for him and he was over it. I looked on Amazon and I can get a carb kit for $12.70. For that little money, it is worth replacing the carb to see if that solves my issues versus taking it in.
I have purchase several of these many after receiving found them to be the exact carb as oem and cheaper than a kit.
Right on
Steve!! You certainly saved me money. Just so happens I was given a Honda cultivator a week ago that wouldn't run. Needed a new carb. Ordered the one you have in the description box, followed your instructions in the video and now it runs perfectly. Thank you. Think I'll order a t-shirt from you to help support your fabulous channel.
WOW! Thank You...
Steve,
My experience has been over 80-90% failure rate on cheapo 2stroke carbs and 90%+
success rate with
cheapo 4 stroke
carbs.
great info steve. easy to see why people turn to amazon for their parts
Agreed!
Use aftermarket carbs all the time, never had any issues, awesome steve.
Right on
"Don't take those fuel lines off until you crack the fuel cap.... Ask me how I know." LMAO, me too Steve, me too, 30 years later I still haven't learned, lol! Cheers from Calgary once again!
Right on
Usually, I just need internal parts, so I buy an Amazon carb for dirt cheap, I try it, and if it doesn't work(30% it doesn't), then I just exchange the internal parts, and I have a good working carb. It's still a lot cheaper than bying a carb kit. Plus, usually the carb is good & you still have spare parts for the carb.
Thanks Steve,
Tastes like good gas? $12.92, how about that, I don't care how long it lasts!
You got that right.
Right on
Honda are the best! Love your channel
Thank you!
Great work Steve & the price differential on that carburetor was insane! 👍👍
Agreed!
Did the Amazon listing say New, Unused Condition (or however Amazon words it)? I'm wondering if maybe that one's been cleaned and rebuilt with a kit. I'm glad it worked for you. I've seen others use an inexpensive one like that with success. That one may be a Chinese clone with every detail duplicated or close enough. It also has the adjustment screw(s) and seems to look identical.
I bought a Briggs OEM carb for my Craftsman tractor mower for $164 because a small part inside the original was lost when a neighbor tried to help me, but we didn't know it. That made the engine bow white smoke like crazy when the throttle speed was increased. Troubleshooting found that the lost part made the full gas tank drain into the oil because I didn't close the fuel line shutoff valve, but I would have found out soon enough anyway. Without that lost part and knowing what it looks like to figure out where it goes back, I wouldn't know which one goes where from a rebuild kit. Briggs is horrible about no exploded views with lines pointing to part placements, so I had no help. I learned this new OEM part is an upgrade listed in the Parts Manual because the original Nikki had issues, so I got an updated carb. There are so many cheap copycat clones out there that I would not trust the ~$20 ones and I didn't know this was an OEM replacement until I had it verified my local small engine repair shop to know that it was a correct replacement, because the butterfly closure is very different. That's why I questioned it, plus some other things are different, but actually better. I learned the hard way that carbs are taken apart and worked on over a benchtop or work table, and that there IS a proper way to take them apart to keep parts from falling out. Lesson learned for all future carb work. The compression was 30 psi low, so I lapped the valves while I was at it. It starts fast and purrs like a kitten now.
Thanks for everything you (and April) do for us, Steve. You're the man!
OEM would be ideal, but these cheap carbs are a no brainer. I have never had a problem with them. Nice work 👍
Thanks 👍
Awesome! Glad to see you putting in the outtakes. Have you got outtakes from over the years of footage still? I'd love to see a compilation
Great video Steve!! I have used Amazon for replacement carbs a couple times and they worked perfectly. I also have gotten some replacement coils ( ignition modules). I only had trouble with the ones I got for my Tecumseh. They "said" it was a replacement for the coil I had. Ended up with 3 coils. Two of them were exactly the same... wrong. didn't fit the mounts. The third one I ended up taking the coil off of the core and put it on my old core... it works... mostly. Once in a while I get a bit of a backfire. The problem is the mounting. The original had one leg of the core longer than the other. All of the new ones had the same length legs on the core and the mounting holes were too close together. The engine is a 12 hp., vertical shaft, made probably in the 90's?
I changed mine out 2 years ago, still working.
Right on
Great video Steve. I've used those before and have had great success with them.
Thank You...
Steve, just this morning I priced the left-hand thread, nyloc nut to hold the cutting blade on my old FS 55 because I mis-placed one.. again. :(
The Stihl shop wanted 7.99 CDN for one!
I came home and ordered a pack of 5 from Spamazon for 9.00! Now I'll have spares and won't feel ripped off.
I've been putting on new carbs on small engines for a few years. Much cheaper than originals and why deal with an old, worn, gummed up one when for $22-ish I can get the carb, fuel filter, air filter and a plug (and sometimes even more in the kit). I have never had to adjust them. Toss them on like you did and done.
I like to buy local when I can but I also like to have enough money for bills and food too. ;)
Strange times we live in.
BTW.. the FS 55 is about 22 years old and still does it's job well.
Love the channel.
Joe, on the opposite coast.
Right on Joe! Thank You...
My snowblower carb was $15, but it's been 3 years and still rocking!
Right on
agreed. But think you could put that OEM carb into your ultrasonic cleaner and get it going? would be curious to know if that worked too
It is always better to keep the original Zama or Walbro carb (2-strokes and for thus machine). Replace the metering diaphragm and clean and 9 out of 10 times it runs perfectly. I use aftermarket carburetors when the original won't run right after cleaning. Have had good success with cheap Chinese carburetors.
I have a Honda probably CHONDA powered craftsman push mower. Amazon Honda branded carb 19 bucks. Unfortunately, I am on my second carb in 3 seasons. Hopefully my switch to nonethanol fuel for all my small engines will resolve the failing carbs. It is common for these carbs to not tolerate old ethanol gas. The mover surges when warm. Cleaning the carb does not work 99.3854% of the time. For 19 bucks, it is worth the time saved knowing the carb will fix the problem beats the odds of removing. cleaning and reinstalling the old carb to not have it work.
the man is a genius
Did the same thing on my Jiffy Ice Auger this winter. Ordered from Amazon a generic carb and 5 minute job to change it out. Started right up and runs like new.
Right on
Thank you Steve, you hit on my exact issue for the second time!! You da man!!!
You're Welcome...and Thank You...
"Tastes like good gas too..." You sir *WIN* the internet today! (Out of curiosity - does the higher octane stuff taste sweeter? How about with ethanol? Lol). GREAT video - HUGE help to me!
Can’t agree with you more, Steve. The Amazon knock-offs work just as well as the OEMs, for 1/5 of the cost! I have given up rebuilding carbs on all of my small engines, from string trimmers to blowers to even my zero-turn. No longer worth the time and effort. For under $20 each, I throw on a new carb every year, and they start up first pull. Amazon is a gift for any of us who work on their own small engines.
Great video and thanks for posting! Mine started but smoking badly then wouldn't start. Took off air filter cover and tried to start and oil was pouring out carb hole. Any thought on where to start for this or is this thing trashed? Thx!
Assuming for a moment your fuel sample, spark test and compression were all fine😊
Gas smells, tastes good? Its a go.
I too have had good luck with Amazon replacement carbs.
I have used a few of these knockoff carbs 6+ years ago and still working fine after the oem one broke after 2 years
When the cheap carb is 1/3 the price of an oem rebuild kit it makes sence just to buy the carb
Agreed!
Gotta clean the tank and replace the fuel lines along with the carb. If it's 4stroke you should change the oil and adjust the valves, actual cost may very.
The new carb that I bought off Amazon actually came with all those required pieces.
Yup OEM Manufacture prices are crazy, OEM Amazon chiwanese you get what you pay for!
Always saving us some money. Thank you
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My mistake was to fiddle with the adjusting screws - tried to set them as on the original one and this screwed up the fuel ratio, so the engine doesn't start, or bogs down or surges like crazy. My mistake. I guess I need to buy another one and to leave the adjustment screws as they are. :) The replacing of the carburetor was easy - just two screws were holding it.
There are actually RUclips videos on adjusting those carburetor screws.
Awesome fun, thanks for sharing 🙂👍☕
Thank you too
Thx for the vids, how often do these need to be changed out
Thanks for the info. Donna's mom has a smaller on that she took to the shop and they got it runing but when I tried to start it it was not getting gas. One or two months after she had it worked on. Put a little gas in carb and it would run. It had set for years before she had it worked on. If the gas line is ok I think for the price I'll just order a carb and put it on myself. Thanks. james out.
Excellent advice Steve and you have to wonder where exactly Honda are sourcing their OEM carbs from and what sort of profit margin they are adding in the process.
Good question!
Steve,I service multiple mantis tillers, i buy the chinese copies 6 at a time, they 99.9% work fine,whether on a mantis or elsewhere on other machines. The only silly problem is when you buy a carb which comes as a kit with grommet, fuel pipe air filter and tank breather, i have found that some of the tank breathers leak fuel so i have to use better quality breathers other than that it begs the question "what is the real difference between OEM and a supposed copy,are they actually from the same factory???.
Hahaha, the bloopers, that's me every day😂
Me too!
Thanks Steve gonna give it a try
Good luck!
Yup, I hate myself for doing it but I have just bought el-cheap-o spam-amzon carbs to fix three different small engines this year.
Well. Yes I have a battery powered lawnmower.
But also a UNKNOWN brand (too scratched to see anything), unknow engine, proudly gas powered Rototiller
This thing is probably older than me, I'm 44 years young, my grandfather purchased this in ... ... ... 19xx ??? In the 70' ?????
The last time I saw this thing working I was like 5-6 years old.
So. I watched your video, cleaned the thing, unmounted the carb, took it to "Petit Moteurs Enr." (Small engine mechanic in my town :) ) Just like you... 150$ CAD money... ... ... Mmmmm.... What's the model number??? Ok, Thanks, Bye.
So. Amazon, 21$ CAD, tax & shipping included.
THANKS A MILLION my friend. I don't need a Rototiller, but God Damn it's good to hear this Grandfather bought machine revive... My defunct grandfather would be proud... :)
Run like... ... ... a brand new engine.... Things was built tough in those time.... :)
Cool!
Sometimes it really is just that simple.
Even if you buy 3-4 of the Amazon carbs, you would be ahead.
Agreed!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
I come for the beer! LOL!
Have a Honda GX35 on a small canoe motor. I’m in Colorado at 5280+ in elevation. Curious if I could use adjuster screws on carb to adapt to altitude or if I need to re jet it? Have a video on how to re jet these?
I needed a carb for a BS 10hp. BS wanted over $100 for the carb.
Chyna mart had , carb, spark plug, fuel filter, all the gaskets, heat shield as a kit. Oh and air filter for ...$25.
Briggs better do something, cause I hate not buying USA products.😳
Love the bloopers. Good to know our age does creep up on the mind.
Thank You...
I got a new Walbro carb for my Sthil chainsaw for less than a rebuild kit
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I prefer to use OEM parts, but for that price I would go with the aftermarket one. 👍
Right on Bob!
Did same thing with my Mantis, kit came with all gaskets and lines fuel filter for 13.00
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Hello steve.....how are you?.......I'm a huge fan of yours I watched all of your videos......I need your advice on a 2 stroke carburetor.....when changing the metering diaphragm......the tiny hole on the carburetor must be with the tiny hole on the metering diaphagm......but the gasket goes first on the carburetor and then the metering diaphragm goes on top of the gasket.....aren't the gasket going to block the tiny hole on the carburetor?
I've had one dud carb from about 5 or 6 I've bought. Bit of a pain as I've got to wait a while for another one but the saving is immense. Yeah the originals are probably better but I fail to see where!
I fixed 3 of these last year with aftermarket carbs.
Right on
U DA Man ! Great Vid !
Wish I could get a cheap one and repair it, like U did .
Is that a Mantis model #7924 2 stroke tiller ?
I plan renting one from HD, for 0.088 of an acre.
If it bogs or stalls, I need to know whats wrong.
In order to cut down, On the return and time credit, debate(s).
With HD !
Just saying if you wind up replacing these carbs with some frequency will asia take them back to dump them into their land fills ?
That tiller is all a gardner needs just the right size for everything
Agreed!
Beer after the job is done, steve😅
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Loved the ending bloopers
Right on
Welcome back to regular videos! 🤩
More to come!
Gives you some idea of oem profit margin.
Thanks for the video Steve nicely done 12$ WOW. Take care of yourself and family and be Blessed ❤️❤️👍.
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I don't care for China knock-off Carburetors but recently have started using them. The labor and parts are too expensive to make any money repairing a $100 String Trimmer. I've found if I fit a China Carburetor with an OEM Metering Diaphragm and Fuel pump, they last as long as the OEM.
BTW, our Mantis Tiller is still alive. Had to rebuild the Carb and eventually replaced the Carb. Mantis is dated 1/1989.
Hi Steve and /or anyone.Would you routinely loctite (blue) the carb mounting nuts ?
I have a mantis and it runs fine. When I put it to work the tynes stop. What do you think please