Talking/Talking About Philosophy
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- Опубликовано: 12 фев 2023
- The main discussion begins around 4:30
The first four minutes is explaining why I am talking about this in the first place, which, understandably, will not be of interest to most here.
In this video, I discuss the difference between speaking about philosophy and speaking philosophy. We look at the history of ideas, history of philosophy, and philosophy of history within the context that is typical on this platform.
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But what about historical philosophy and philosophical history? I'm just kidding. I wish we all had more time to film the videos we have planned out, even the ones listed out as hopeful ideas. Is there really any harm in accidentally "misleading" people if it produces thought and discussion? :)
I was actually just thinking this the other day, and it is an incredibly important point. If it generates discussion, it does ultimately shed further light on the subject. I approached the whole subject as though one doesn't look further, which I guess my pessimistic view got in the way. I will have to mention this in another video--thank you for pointing that out!
I usually maintain that if people want to know why I think a certain way in a video, they have to watch the one immediately proceeding it, and the one before that, and the one before that...
That is true, though! I should just use this comment to reply to every one from now on haha
“None filmed or even…. complete really…” summed up my entire booktube journey 😂😂😂 Trees out 😂👏 but seriously, I like the distinction between talking philosophy and talking about philosophy. Two very, very different things… 😎
Thank you so much! And yes, the struggle is very real. More so in the book community as the amount of work outside the platform takes a lot of time. It is best to take one's time and not get too stressed about it. So I am told haha😅
I just recently discovered Brandon's channel and I've been enjoying his videos 🤗 Always good to see and hear from you Pae!!! 🥰
Your comedy skills are absolutely unparalleled on booktube 😂 And I can tell how much it just comes out spontaneously.
I love your take on “philosophy”, and the more I was listening to this, the more I thought you would have a GRAND time with “The master and his emissary”, because it has a ton of philosophy for people who have studied it.
p.s. it especially touches on the limits of philosophical activity, often limited to our left brain, that’s why I found it fascinating
Yes! I very much look forward to reading it! It has yet to come in, but I am hoping I get it this week, and I have a feeling I will be making extensive notes throughout the first and second reading of it!
@@attention5638 I’d love to chat with you about it. Richard and I will do our second video about it in a couple of weeks.
@@tomlabooks3263 I would love to have a chat about it. I have been reading up on it, and I think I will have quite a bit to say. I just checked to see when it should arrive, and luckily enough, either tomorrow or Wednesday!
@@attention5638 I actually found it even therapeutic. Never read such a book before. It should be much more well-known, but because it sits at the intersection of various specialties (neuroscience, philosophy, psychology, sociology) it’s difficult to position.
@@tomlabooks3263 The book came in this morning! Much bigger than I expected, but just read the introduction and it doesn't sound too dense. And judging by the intro, is going to be one that I read multiple time. Very much look forward to getting into it!
“Tree-ing” is my new favorite word-that captures the problem of “talking philosophy” so well. It’s why I have laptops of documents (heh, heh...). I laughed very hard at the “School of Life” jokes and the notion that society has developed efficient ways to shrink attention spans like some kind of science experiment…I also agree that fiction has a way of “binding” a philosophical discussion in interesting ways. Anyway, just wanted to let you know I’m going to try to use the word “tree-ing” in every conversation I can from now on. Pae for President.
I’m going to use “tree-ing” now in everyday language to confuse people. 🥸
Haha, it is a good word! When I start putting out all these series, I am just going to have to jump in and not worry about explaining every detail and the whole history. But! I can still be very detailed on where I got everything that will be discussed. So that is alright haha
@@attention5638 Indeed my friend, and I myself just imagine myself as trying to describe the top of a glacier. No, the top of the glacier isn't the whole of it, but it's also part of the whole. What is described is incomplete, yes but it is not misdirection. All models are wrong, but some can be useful, and all I've ever found on your channel are good, beautiful, and true models.
“Why?”Hahaha! Good sir, I am very glad to see a video like this! I would say that it’s an important introduction on the depths of philosophy (I say this knowing it barely hits anything, but you know what I mean). To those who are considering diving into philosophy, I recommend it and also don’t 😅 In the past year have lost an incredible amount of sleep, and I feel like I’m right where I started (even though that is not technically true, but it always feels like it). It is really great to be able to discuss ideas with others like on The Net, but the studying is often done alone. It is also nice to be able to watch a ten minute video on someone trying to explain what Heidegger means when he says “Be there” and say to myself “oh that’s bs” so I have certainly found good and bad in the last year. I have been humbled more times than I can count, but the journey is the fun part of it all! There are lots of ways that studying has helped me in my life. Though I cannot spend 20 hours a day working on it, the few hours I do get is helpful. 😊
As for fiction, i agree. I always think that is easier to bring philosophical elements about, or ways that fiction can relate to specifics in life, but in a very intrinsic way. It is by no means saying, here’s a concept and that’s totally what Heidegger meant. But I love exploring fiction.
As always, take care (and take vitamin D 😂) Looking forward to the new content! 😊😊
One last thing. I see what you are saying and yes I agree, but someone did just request me to write a response to Schopenhauer’s “on women” essay today sooooooo kind of really tempted to do that. 😂😂
I was gonna dive into Philosophy and then I met Crispy...so, nope.😵
This whole video was just the extra parts I cut out before getting into Descartes method haha which is why he comes up as the example through all of this 😅 I wasn't intending to put this out until I realized it may be a good introduction. Now I have no choice but to continue goin in this direction Haha. And the few hours you get are worth gold! They all add up, and things open more and more with every week that passes!
And yes! I saw you had a copy of "On the Suffering of the World" which is excerpts taken from Will and Representation. I am going to have to read those sections again, but it will be a good excuse to go back to Schopenhauer. 😎
I created a habit of re-watching your videos every so often. Still learning something new every time. Which I of course forget immediately afterwards. So if your videos collect views even after years of being uploaded...hi, it's me (also in need of more sleep)! 👋
Oh! That is the best thing I have heard all week! I am so glad to know that these videos have not completely gone to the unknown. If there is one person that can take something away from anything I am saying, it was all worth the work! Thank you so much! 😊 (I probably need more sleep as well, but I am not sure if I am ready for that change haha).
I had to click on this one obviously!! So glad I found The great BookTube philosophical problem! Trees out, my friend!! ✌🏻😊💙
Oh yes! I am so glad you liked this! I think you will like the next series I have been working on! And looking forward to more Toni Morrison!😎
It is your treeing tendency that I love. Sometimes you have to trust your viewers of course.
There will be a lot more treeing to come! haha😅
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Pae, whats up man. I was so happy to be catching up on your videos now that I'm back, and was very surprised and delighted by your kind compliment. This was an excellent discussion and hilarious as always.
Brandon! So great to see you, and just saw that you are posting again! I hope that this means that things have come around for the better, and I look forward to seeing the new posts you put out tonight! (And you should not be surprised! You are very self-aware and humble in your discussions, which is always greatly appreciated).
I don't know whether Heidegger was an existentialist or not and don't really care, but he did suggest we visit graveyards from time to time to be aware of our own mortality. As to whether we have a soul or not, I am sitting on the agnostic fence. Good to see you putting something out.
Jim! So good to see you here--it is funny, because just this morning, before posting this video, you popped into mind, and I have been curious on what you have been up to in the reading world--I shall catch up tonight! 😎 And Yes! Heidegger did suggest we should spend more time in Graveyards. The last half of Being and Time certainly explains why haha
Branches out! Lol I like the skull on the desk!
The skull may be haunted haha
@@attention5638 Even better!😉
The movie THE BALLAD OF BUSTER SCRUGGS comes to mind...a lot of hidden philosophy in that movie.😎
I do not believe I have ever heard of that film. Will look up now! haha
It’s Schrödinger‘s Attention Video: The video both does and doesn’t exist as long as it is not uploaded to YT 🐈
Haha Exactly! I will go with that!
These trees really do have a habit of branching out down many a rabbit hole ;P but hey at least you will have quite the extensive video library released... Eventually!
If anyone can cover these topics properly for the world of RUclips, it is you, because you are clearly coming at them from the right place.
Why thank you very much! And I do hope so, though I am bound to make errors here and there, no matter how detailed I get into things. And a huge emphasis on the word "eventually" haha
Haha. Amazing video. Allow me to congratulate your editor! (Feel that congratulations could have come a long time ago in your videos but it’s always so impressive)
“Length isn’t the issue” said with a totally straight face… I bring the low brow to your comments it seems. 😂
James! Always good to hear from you, my friend! You most certainly do not bring the "low brow" to the comment section! You have been here from the very start, and that means the most! 😎
talkin the talk walkin the walk
Hey! Always great to see you here! Though I am still not sure what "yeet" means, those comments are some of my favorites for reasons I am unsure of 😅
@@attention5638 yeet yeet
Yeah, I need more sleep too.
I think most people could use a good nap these days haha
Trees are dangerous...they branch way too much, lol. And this is the problem (or perhaps the good thing) about philosophy. Nothing stands alone and everything is complex and connected. Layers upon layers upon layers. It's why I struggle with philosophy even if I do enjoy it when I read it. It is just a lot because of all those layers, and how philosophers build on other philosophers.
Sorry for the late reply! I came down with a very bad cold 🥶 But, absolutely! That is what I am having so much trouble with explaining. However, I remember you mentioning Descartes in a video (and I will always be down for a read along if you do decide), but I will also be going into great depth with his philosophical body of work over the next few videos--so hopefully I can be of some help! 😊
Self righteous turnips gonna tree out 🙃
Yes, very much so haha