Jumala is native word witch they wasn't able to erase from history. Thats one really powerfull word, witch you can only found within, before seeing it in outer creation.
Sounds like a Russian native speaker, who learned Finnish when he was already an adult and never got rid of his Russian accent. Or perhaps he never learned the language to begin with, but is just singing the lyrics without any proficiency in the language. Somebody's probably going to say: "No, this is actual Karelian language!" I seriously doubt that.
I think he's fluent (that's not the only piece of him singing Kalevala that I've heard) but even I can hear that he has an accent :) An attempt to collect clearer samples of Karelian samples can be found here: ruclips.net/video/ywHPqAVylGw/видео.html
There is a chance this guy is "inkerinsuomalainen" i.e. Ingrian Finnish. Most of them can't speak Finnish all that well anymore, and a ton of them living in Finland have Finnish given names and Russian family names. One woman like that used to visit the library I worked at and never said a word, only smiled as she loaned books. Wasn't deaf - she still heard you if your face wasn't visible. I have a feeling she just didn't know Finnish well enough to use it.
You do realize that many if not most of the Finno-Ugric peoples in Russia cannot even speak their ancestral language anymore? Imagine having to learn the language of your own people during your adulthood. Yeah, he was probably raised speaking only Russian, so what? Give him a break. I think it's great that many people are re-learning their language nowadays.
I don't believe that this is genuinely from the Kalevala Epic poem, as this is a Christian song . Using only the Kalevala rhyming pattern. The Kalevala was from the pagan times.
The pronounciation isn't bad, the real issue is that he's singing praises for the christian god and then claiming it's an authentic Kalevala rune song...
Christianity has been binding together with Kalevala runes for a millenia, it's not an issue. Maybe the title could be "a Finnish folk song with kalevala melody" tho. :)
Emil. Karelians are its own ethnic group. We have never been finnish people, yes we belong to a finnic group but finnish and karelians are its own people. Karelians does not belong to a finnish groups. Where did you get the information that karelians are finnish? I have no idea why do you bring up finnish groups like savonians and häme people. When sweden came to Finland to share their beliefs, I think häme people have already become non exist because sweden made them christians and lost their beliefs and culture for maany years. Karelians were this time in the russia, sweden colonized karelia isthmus and made us lutheran christians but the north part of karelia became orthodox christians. So sweden made us separate a bit, after finland gained independence, Finland colonized karelia isthmus and made us speak finnish but yet we spoke in karelian dialects while north karelia never lost its language so they spoke in viena karelian and aunus people spoke in livvi karelian. Only karelia isthmus lost its language when finnish people gave us propaganda and forced us to speak finnish and made us think we are finnish, but we have never been!
@@saarinenj1 Karelian with its many dialects is a very beautiful language. And as you said, Karelian and Finnish people are not the same. I partly understand your view of history, because after the second World War Karelian speakers have been very careful not to publicly speak Karelian. I noticed few years ago near Oulu in Muhos, that there are many people who have knowledge of Karelian language, the language has been transferred also to new generations by those people, who had to leave their homes in areas that Finland lost to Soviet Union. It is a great thing that the tradition continues! Finland is not saint in how it has treated Finnic peoples. There has been understandably big suspicion towards Russian imperialism, but it is shameful that Karelian and Votic people have sometimes been treated as suspicious because of that. On times before second world war, I know that for example in Salmi it was spoken Karelian. In Viipuri it was classified as Finnish South Eastern dialect, it is not Karelian. Saying that it becoming Finnish was forced, maybe in this case it was more like a natural process, in which Western Finnish immigrants had influence to language. Like myself, my own dialect is a mixture of Finnish Western and Eastern dialects. Language changes also without force by contacts. But if there was forcing, it was wrong and we must openly talk about it. It is great that you speak for Karelian tradition and preserve it. The best way on my opinion is to tell about its beauty, on positive side, not being in opposition to Finnish. We are Finnic peoples, and in ideal world we have a big mutual respect. There is always ignorance, but more and more people want to know and see the richness of the culture.
@@saarinenj1 west karelia was also part of sweden for hundreds of years, almost as much as the western parts of finland, karelians are a finnish tribe just like tavastians and finns proper, karelians are one of the 3 original tribes of finland with tavastians and finns proper. eastern karelians are quite different from Finns as they were under russian rule for a long time and have been heavily infuenced by russians, instead of swedes. some of karelia is still today part of finland and they are very much finnish, finns are a people who are made up of many tribes including karelians. also finland has never colonized karelia, that is an idiotic statement, it was finns who fought and died for the freedom of karelia, it was finns who took in east karelian refugees when they were being genocided by soviets. most finns in fact are partly or largely karelian, including myself.
He did a very nice job with the song, despite obviously not being a native FInnish speaker.
Jumala is native word witch they wasn't able to erase from history. Thats one really powerfull word, witch you can only found within, before seeing it in outer creation.
I was actually in sauna wondering whether he was singing about the Christian God or the original "Jumala"
And that's when Grandpa wipped out his kantele and summoned the world into existence!
Indeed, the Gods may bless us all Finno Ugric Tribes and Nations. Thank you for the upload. Greetings goes out from Hungary.
This is really good, pronounciation is not the best but he has got it just right!
Sounds like a Russian native speaker, who learned Finnish when he was already an adult and never got rid of his Russian accent. Or perhaps he never learned the language to begin with, but is just singing the lyrics without any proficiency in the language.
Somebody's probably going to say: "No, this is actual Karelian language!" I seriously doubt that.
I think he's fluent (that's not the only piece of him singing Kalevala that I've heard) but even I can hear that he has an accent :)
An attempt to collect clearer samples of Karelian samples can be found here: ruclips.net/video/ywHPqAVylGw/видео.html
There is a chance this guy is "inkerinsuomalainen" i.e. Ingrian Finnish. Most of them can't speak Finnish all that well anymore, and a ton of them living in Finland have Finnish given names and Russian family names. One woman like that used to visit the library I worked at and never said a word, only smiled as she loaned books. Wasn't deaf - she still heard you if your face wasn't visible. I have a feeling she just didn't know Finnish well enough to use it.
You do realize that many if not most of the Finno-Ugric peoples in Russia cannot even speak their ancestral language anymore? Imagine having to learn the language of your own people during your adulthood. Yeah, he was probably raised speaking only Russian, so what? Give him a break. I think it's great that many people are re-learning their language nowadays.
@@FinnoUgricfolkmusic native Karelian and russian bilingual ?
@@DeltaSilver88 as inkeri he must be very well russian speaking
I don't believe that this is genuinely from the Kalevala Epic poem, as this is a Christian song . Using only the Kalevala rhyming pattern. The Kalevala was from the pagan times.
I for some reason have got a slight feeling this might not be exactly authentic.
Well, the pronunciation is somewhat off.
The pronounciation is off yes but he has got the essence of this song really good! I'm proud of him as a Finnish person.
The pronounciation isn't bad, the real issue is that he's singing praises for the christian god and then claiming it's an authentic Kalevala rune song...
Christianity has been binding together with Kalevala runes for a millenia, it's not an issue. Maybe the title could be "a Finnish folk song with kalevala melody" tho. :)
@@Johannes4233 Christianity has old roots in Karelia. Some say christianity came there somewhere durin 800AD.
This is really magical, such an interesting culture, so magical really
I love your music! Kiitos💓
Very nice.
Dank bEETZ bb luv dadz!
Does the song have a name? Onko biisillä nimeä?
Folk songs are usually named after their first line (song's first line = song's name).
This melody is used for countless lyrics in the Finnish language. I guess it's a very old melody.
Это гусли???
Это Кантеле
@@IvanMoroshka спасибо буду знать
@@IvanMoroshka какая это руна?
А понятно это вообще не из Калевалы
shake that kuukk my bb!
Петь он не умеет
Makes sense he's a Russian. Ruski's took Karelia by force, so Karelian songs like this are officially theirs now...
Nonsense. Educate yourself on culture. Just because someone took over some land, that doesn't make the Folksongs of the land theirs.
@@FinnoUgric Educate yourself on sarcasm. Then get back with me.
The fact that karelians where there before that tho...
Karelians are not finnish.
Wrong
Emil.
Karelians are its own ethnic group. We have never been finnish people, yes we belong to a finnic group but finnish and karelians are its own people. Karelians does not belong to a finnish groups. Where did you get the information that karelians are finnish? I have no idea why do you bring up finnish groups like savonians and häme people. When sweden came to Finland to share their beliefs, I think häme people have already become non exist because sweden made them christians and lost their beliefs and culture for maany years. Karelians were this time in the russia, sweden colonized karelia isthmus and made us lutheran christians but the north part of karelia became orthodox christians. So sweden made us separate a bit, after finland gained independence, Finland colonized karelia isthmus and made us speak finnish but yet we spoke in karelian dialects while north karelia never lost its language so they spoke in viena karelian and aunus people spoke in livvi karelian.
Only karelia isthmus lost its language when finnish people gave us propaganda and forced us to speak finnish and made us think we are finnish, but we have never been!
@@saarinenj1 Karelian with its many dialects is a very beautiful language. And as you said, Karelian and Finnish people are not the same. I partly understand your view of history, because after the second World War Karelian speakers have been very careful not to publicly speak Karelian. I noticed few years ago near Oulu in Muhos, that there are many people who have knowledge of Karelian language, the language has been transferred also to new generations by those people, who had to leave their homes in areas that Finland lost to Soviet Union. It is a great thing that the tradition continues!
Finland is not saint in how it has treated Finnic peoples. There has been understandably big suspicion towards Russian imperialism, but it is shameful that Karelian and Votic people have sometimes been treated as suspicious because of that. On times before second world war, I know that for example in Salmi it was spoken Karelian. In Viipuri it was classified as Finnish South Eastern dialect, it is not Karelian. Saying that it becoming Finnish was forced, maybe in this case it was more like a natural process, in which Western Finnish immigrants had influence to language. Like myself, my own dialect is a mixture of Finnish Western and Eastern dialects. Language changes also without force by contacts. But if there was forcing, it was wrong and we must openly talk about it.
It is great that you speak for Karelian tradition and preserve it. The best way on my opinion is to tell about its beauty, on positive side, not being in opposition to Finnish. We are Finnic peoples, and in ideal world we have a big mutual respect. There is always ignorance, but more and more people want to know and see the richness of the culture.
@@saarinenj1 west karelia was also part of sweden for hundreds of years, almost as much as the western parts of finland, karelians are a finnish tribe just like tavastians and finns proper, karelians are one of the 3 original tribes of finland with tavastians and finns proper. eastern karelians are quite different from Finns as they were under russian rule for a long time and have been heavily infuenced by russians, instead of swedes. some of karelia is still today part of finland and they are very much finnish, finns are a people who are made up of many tribes including karelians. also finland has never colonized karelia, that is an idiotic statement, it was finns who fought and died for the freedom of karelia, it was finns who took in east karelian refugees when they were being genocided by soviets. most finns in fact are partly or largely karelian, including myself.