So, what do you think about carbon fiber shafts? People love them and a lot also hate them. Me personally, I like them. Let me know what you think in the comments. Thank you to everyone who watched the video and a special thank you to my subscribers and loyal viewers! It’s you that keeps me going.
My first experience with carbon fiber shaft was terrible but after using a quality shaft the experience was much better the cheaper one had the sound of a golf club and a lot of vibration The quality shaft was a totally different experience and I enjoyed using it . My advice is you get what you pay for.
@@montyhoutchens9217 Yes, eventhough all of these shafts are made of the same material, they all play differenlty. I'd say that it's a wider variation than that of the different wood shafts. Great comment and thanks for watching!
Took a long time but I finally got new felt on my table. I know that’s not the topic of this video but just wanted to share. Also keep up the great work. Love the videos being pumped out more regularly now. I know this isn’t your job but I know I speak for more than myself when I say we truly appreciate these videos
@@PoolAddiction I went with ProLine elite 404. Was half the price of simonis and I read some good reviews. It’s still new obviously but seems to be playing very well. The one thing I will say is it does seem to be a little stretchier than felts I have used in the past so when we installed it it didn’t get as tight as I would of liked but it’s still playing a very good speed. Time will tell the durability of it though
I need to change my cloth soon. I thought about of doing a review of the new predator cloth but it’s so hard to try something else when I like simonis so much.
@@PoolAddiction I hear that. When you have had the best it’s hard to go back from it. I would of went with simonis but I have a kid that’s gonna start trying to shoot a little so didn’t want him scratching up the good stuff lol
Love your content, you always have really in-depth thoughts as well as clear and concise testing as well as production quality keep up the wonderful work! I just ordered a GO Customs jump cue they are amazing!
@@PoolAddiction I will for sure ,but they are on vaccation so I will not get my cue til aug 15th at the latest lol I have tried it before I bought it, It jumps amazing so easy to get the cue ball in the air and good control as well. Keep up the good content!
Whenever you get around to it it would be great if you could do a review of the TIGER Products Fortis carbon fiber shaft. Its comes in 12mm and 12.5mm but I prefer the 12mm. The people need to hear its feedback sound. It’s unlike any other carbon fiber shaft out there in terms of response and playability. Love your videos man, keep it up.
The tip does have a difference when feel and spin but doesn't have a huge (it's minuscule) difference when it comes to how low deflection a shaft is. Dr. Dave has a video testing the theory, ruclips.net/video/nx4r0NSsxqo/видео.html I do want to my own testing sometime to see what results I get and compare them to Dr. Dave. I do agree that the joint doesn't make a difference when it comes to deflection, most of my comments that related to the wood over the plastic joint were more about feel. I didn't mean to infer that the joint types played a role in the deflection testing. Well I do hope you liked the video and thanks for watching!
@@PoolAddiction hey I have the shaft and it has made a significant difference in a lot of categories. I'm happy to chat if you want me to try anything out with it.
great review ... I think it's funny that you say you keep your BeCue Prime M ... I have that too and I think it's much too soft and the hit is also very modest. I think the Go Customs SL 12.0mm is much better as well as the Ignite, which are very similar, stiff, crisp hit, very LD.
Thanks! I love to hear what other's experiences are with these shafts. I know some people live and die by the Revo and others like another like the Go. I did enjoy the Go but I just like the Prime M more and that's me and the way I like to play. You mentioned the crisp hit of the Go, for me it was a little too crisp. I do know what you mean about the Prime M being a modest hit but I don't mind that. The shaft's feedback and feel goes a long way on what I like in a shaft, of course it has to hit right though. A lot of CF shafts have a tink or tonk type noise/feel and in my opinion the Prime M deadens that better. You mentioned the Ignite. I hope to get my hands on one of them this year a do a review, I have heard nothing but great things about them. Like I say with all of my reviews is everyone is a bit different and we all tend to like different things with they way the play and the equipment they play with and I always say find what works for you and stick with it. Thank you for the comment! I love comments like these, it adds a lot to the conversation about a part of the game we love.
I'm a bit late to this video, but I have a question about the numbers at 22:56. Am I reading this correctly that the custom shaft with the wood rings had nearly *half* the deflection of the standard GO shaft? (nearly a fourth on a medium hit!!)? *And* it hits more like wood than a REVO? That seems too good to be true. If those numbers are correct I need to be shipping a donor shaft over to Goran as soon as humanly possible. Bonus question: now that you've owned the shaft for a year (although I'm sure you've been playing with lots of different cues over that time), how is it holding up? Are you still playing with it regularly?
Hi, Nate thanks for the comment. Yes, those are the results that I got. I am not sure why they were that different between the two, GO Customs said there shouldn't be any difference. I tested both of them on the same day. The only difference is the joint. That said, I am human and can't replicate the same exact stoke every time and that has to be factored in but I wouldn't think that would cause that big of a difference. I think they had different tips too but again shouldn't be a huge factor unless you add them all up, I'm not sure. I don't look at the testing until I am editing so I don't see where the ball hits on the rail until then which helps me be unbiased. I don't still play with either of them, I have been playing with the Hsunami for over a year now as my main shaft. They are both good shafts but I don't play much with them anymore. Thanks for watching!
I definitely plan to, hopefully this sometime this year. I have another shaft review I’m working on now. The ignite might be the next shaft review I do after that one. Thanks for the comment and watching!
The only part of the shaft that's wood is the joint area where he used the donor shaft I sent him to transplant the joint ringwork so it would match my cue. The wood only goes in about 1.5 - 2 inches. The rest of the shaft is the way he normally makes it. Every company does something a little different when it comes to what's inside the shaft. They all tend to use some kind hardened foam in various spots of the shaft to give it their low deflection qualities as well as what the company thinks will make a great playing shaft. As a result they do tend have their own unique traits. I would love to cut cross sections into some of these shafts and see how they are made but man that would be expensive! Thanks for watching and the comment!
It’s a pocket lathe stand. It’s basically something that’s thin that I can balance the cue on to get the spot so I can measure the distance from the tip. Thanks for watching and I’m glad you liked the video!
@@bobcallahan5086 The only physical differences are the joint where the custom had the the wood joint and the tips. I don't think the joint makes any difference and the tips should have a minor difference. I believe the human factor, not every stroke is exactly the same, probably has some to do with it. All that being said, the results between the two are close overall. The tip on the standard (Zan Hybrid Max) was a little harder than the customized (Kamui Black Soft).
@@PoolAddiction Thanks again. It's hard to know how much tip hardness had to do with it. If you haven't already seen it, Dave Alciatore's video is the best resource I know: ruclips.net/video/nx4r0NSsxqo/видео.html
@@bobcallahan5086 I have seen his video on tip hardness and it's a really good one and is part of the reason why I think the tip hardness was a very minor reason for the differences. Dr Dave puts out some very good videos from a scientific/mathmatics perspective. If I am in doubt of something I usually look through his videos to help disprove or confirm something I have experienced. Matter of fact I use his pivot test to help show how low delfection a shaft is.
I hit some CF shafts other guys let me put on my cue butt and liked them a lot. I did notice some differences in how the hits felt like cynergy vs revo etc. I didn't know whether the difference had more to do with cue tips than it had to do with the characteristics of the shafts themselves. BTW what were the shipping costs ?
I do believe tips are a factor but each company at says that they use their own technology when it comes to the internals of the CF shaft (type of foam used and exactly where they place it within the shaft). What I’m trying to say is there is a design difference. I had to look back on my bank statements and it looks like I paid $25 over the &399 price so shipping isn’t that bad coming from Europe. Things may be different nowadays. I purchased it back in April of last year. Hope this helps and thanks for watching! CORRECTION- I had a Zan tip put on and that was the extra cost and not shipping. Looks like shipping was free.
Could I get like a 3/4inch ferrule put on a GO customs shaft? Or a full core carbon fiber shaft instead of a filled one like the one you just reviewed?
I would have to say the Revo, Cynergy, and Go Custom are all really close and I would be splitting hairs but I would say the Revo has the slight edge with the Go then the Cynergy right behind. Thanks for the comment and for watching.
I just double checked the website and it displays the USD price for me and it’s $399 which is the same price I paid. When you went to the site it displayed in euros at 399?
I’m not sure if you seen Dr Dave’s video on it but it’s supposed to help determine how low deflection a shaft is, basically the further back the pivot point the more low deflection the shaft is. He uses the side pockets on a 9ft table but my table is 7ft and it’s just not wide enough to do the test using the side pocket comfortably. That’s why I used the corner. I haven’t tried the siege yet but I do know about it. Hope you liked the video!
The rock music in the video ...makes it unmatchable....we like to here the hit of the cue ball , not rock out. We want to here what it feels like to you...not rock out!!!
I always hit sounds in my videos. In this one, I have examples around the 19:20 mark. I know my shoot around in this video has only music but I have changed that in my later videos. I am always looking to improve my videos for everyone. One big reason I use music over the b-roll is partially due to the areas where the video is sped up or slowed down since there's no audio. I also want to keep it entertaining. I plan to keep changing my process if it enhances the review experience for everyone. Thank you for the feedback and thanks for watching!
I have tried the Zan Premium Soft tips on a few shafts and it's a bit too soft for my taste. I have seen some hardness charts out there and they all say that it's the softest tip on the market right now. Right now I am playing with a regular Zan soft tip on my Hsunami shaft and like it. Thanks for watching!
@@jaynosowsky9708 That's a good point I never thought of. It would definatley deaden your shot. I am going to have to consider that on the next tip change. Thanks!
It is affordable compared to some of them. I don't want to spoil the video so watch and see what I think overall, and that's the key overall. Hopefully, you can make the premiere.
*ALL CARBON SHAFTS ARE THE SAME. THEY ARE CARBON HOLLOW TUBES. MADE IN CHINA. THEN ADD A TIP AND AND THREAD INSERT. THERE IS NO WAY TO MAKE THEM DIFFERENT*
So, what do you think about carbon fiber shafts? People love them and a lot also hate them. Me personally, I like them. Let me know what you think in the comments. Thank you to everyone who watched the video and a special thank you to my subscribers and loyal viewers! It’s you that keeps me going.
My first experience with carbon fiber shaft was terrible but after using a quality shaft the experience was much better the cheaper one had the sound of a golf club and a lot of vibration
The quality shaft was a totally different experience and I enjoyed using it . My advice is you get what you pay for.
@@montyhoutchens9217 Yes, eventhough all of these shafts are made of the same material, they all play differenlty. I'd say that it's a wider variation than that of the different wood shafts. Great comment and thanks for watching!
Yet another well done, in depth review! 👏 what's next, Racking Templates?!
I plan to do that sometime.
I've heard good things about Mezz Ignite shafts.
Took a long time but I finally got new felt on my table. I know that’s not the topic of this video but just wanted to share. Also keep up the great work. Love the videos being pumped out more regularly now. I know this isn’t your job but I know I speak for more than myself when I say we truly appreciate these videos
Thanks as always Andrew! What felt did you go with? How does it play?
@@PoolAddiction I went with ProLine elite 404. Was half the price of simonis and I read some good reviews. It’s still new obviously but seems to be playing very well. The one thing I will say is it does seem to be a little stretchier than felts I have used in the past so when we installed it it didn’t get as tight as I would of liked but it’s still playing a very good speed. Time will tell the durability of it though
I need to change my cloth soon. I thought about of doing a review of the new predator cloth but it’s so hard to try something else when I like simonis so much.
@@PoolAddiction I hear that. When you have had the best it’s hard to go back from it. I would of went with simonis but I have a kid that’s gonna start trying to shoot a little so didn’t want him scratching up the good stuff lol
Love your content, you always have really in-depth thoughts as well as clear and concise testing as well as production quality keep up the wonderful work! I just ordered a GO Customs jump cue they are amazing!
Thank you and I’m glad you like the channel. You’ll have to let me know what you think of the jump cue.
@@PoolAddiction I will for sure ,but they are on vaccation so I will not get my cue til aug 15th at the latest lol I have tried it before I bought it, It jumps amazing so easy to get the cue ball in the air and good control as well. Keep up the good content!
Production quality of your videos is incredible!
Thank you so much!
I love my Go Customs cues. I have the playing cue, break cue, jump cue, extension, glove, towel, and chalk 😂
Hey, man! 😊 Nice to see you upped up your game. Your video quality and production is awesome! I am a loyal subscriber. Great job! Very informative. 😉
Thanks, I’m always learning and trying to improve. I feel I still things that can get better. I’m glad you like it!
Digging the Powell t-shirt. Well if I get back into pool I'll consider these GO cues.
Thanks, it's what I was into as a kid. Still love the skate culture too. Thanks for watching!
Very little review on the net about McDermott’s Defy shaft. Hope to see one from you.
It's on the list and you're right, there's not any really out there. Thanks for watching!
Whenever you get around to it it would be great if you could do a review of the TIGER Products Fortis carbon fiber shaft. Its comes in 12mm and 12.5mm but I prefer the 12mm. The people need to hear its feedback sound. It’s unlike any other carbon fiber shaft out there in terms of response and playability.
Love your videos man, keep it up.
Thanks for the comment. I saw that you commented on this subject on my Hsunami video so you can see my reply there. As always, thanks for watching!
Stop spamming this Tiger comment on every carbon fiber video... it's very sad...
The tip is the most important part of the cuee, the difference in tips explains the difference in the two shafts better than the joint.
The tip does have a difference when feel and spin but doesn't have a huge (it's minuscule) difference when it comes to how low deflection a shaft is. Dr. Dave has a video testing the theory, ruclips.net/video/nx4r0NSsxqo/видео.html
I do want to my own testing sometime to see what results I get and compare them to Dr. Dave. I do agree that the joint doesn't make a difference when it comes to deflection, most of my comments that related to the wood over the plastic joint were more about feel. I didn't mean to infer that the joint types played a role in the deflection testing. Well I do hope you liked the video and thanks for watching!
@@PoolAddiction I liked it so much I ordered their SNK shaft (10mm tip).
Nice! You have to tell what you think about it.
@@PoolAddiction I'll let you know. I plan to do some similar tests as you have, though I'm not very experienced. Probably a 2/10 at an APA tournament.
@@PoolAddiction hey I have the shaft and it has made a significant difference in a lot of categories. I'm happy to chat if you want me to try anything out with it.
Great review, keep it up!
Thanks!
great review ... I think it's funny that you say you keep your BeCue Prime M ... I have that too and I think it's much too soft and the hit is also very modest. I think the Go Customs SL 12.0mm is much better as well as the Ignite, which are very similar, stiff, crisp hit, very LD.
Thanks! I love to hear what other's experiences are with these shafts. I know some people live and die by the Revo and others like another like the Go. I did enjoy the Go but I just like the Prime M more and that's me and the way I like to play. You mentioned the crisp hit of the Go, for me it was a little too crisp. I do know what you mean about the Prime M being a modest hit but I don't mind that. The shaft's feedback and feel goes a long way on what I like in a shaft, of course it has to hit right though. A lot of CF shafts have a tink or tonk type noise/feel and in my opinion the Prime M deadens that better. You mentioned the Ignite. I hope to get my hands on one of them this year a do a review, I have heard nothing but great things about them. Like I say with all of my reviews is everyone is a bit different and we all tend to like different things with they way the play and the equipment they play with and I always say find what works for you and stick with it. Thank you for the comment! I love comments like these, it adds a lot to the conversation about a part of the game we love.
I'm a bit late to this video, but I have a question about the numbers at 22:56. Am I reading this correctly that the custom shaft with the wood rings had nearly *half* the deflection of the standard GO shaft? (nearly a fourth on a medium hit!!)? *And* it hits more like wood than a REVO? That seems too good to be true. If those numbers are correct I need to be shipping a donor shaft over to Goran as soon as humanly possible.
Bonus question: now that you've owned the shaft for a year (although I'm sure you've been playing with lots of different cues over that time), how is it holding up? Are you still playing with it regularly?
Hi, Nate thanks for the comment. Yes, those are the results that I got. I am not sure why they were that different between the two, GO Customs said there shouldn't be any difference. I tested both of them on the same day. The only difference is the joint. That said, I am human and can't replicate the same exact stoke every time and that has to be factored in but I wouldn't think that would cause that big of a difference. I think they had different tips too but again shouldn't be a huge factor unless you add them all up, I'm not sure. I don't look at the testing until I am editing so I don't see where the ball hits on the rail until then which helps me be unbiased. I don't still play with either of them, I have been playing with the Hsunami for over a year now as my main shaft. They are both good shafts but I don't play much with them anymore. Thanks for watching!
Review ignite shaft and compare it with all of the carbon fiber shaft..👍
I definitely plan to, hopefully this sometime this year. I have another shaft review I’m working on now. The ignite might be the next shaft review I do after that one. Thanks for the comment and watching!
@@PoolAddiction sure will wait for that video
*NO ONE USED A 11.8MM WOOD SHAFT TOO SMALL BUT EVERYONE IS NOW BUYING 11.8 MM. EFREN ALWAYS USED 12MM*
id like to see you do a comparison with the Defy carbon fiber shaft from Mcdermott
I’ve had a few others ask for the Defy as well. I have it on my radar. Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for watching!
Nice custom wood inserted awesome you said played more like wood! Is those carbon fiber shaft hallowed out or a full core carbon fiber shaft?
The only part of the shaft that's wood is the joint area where he used the donor shaft I sent him to transplant the joint ringwork so it would match my cue. The wood only goes in about 1.5 - 2 inches. The rest of the shaft is the way he normally makes it. Every company does something a little different when it comes to what's inside the shaft. They all tend to use some kind hardened foam in various spots of the shaft to give it their low deflection qualities as well as what the company thinks will make a great playing shaft. As a result they do tend have their own unique traits. I would love to cut cross sections into some of these shafts and see how they are made but man that would be expensive! Thanks for watching and the comment!
I like your reviews, including this one. What is the device you are using to test balance? Thanks.
It’s a pocket lathe stand. It’s basically something that’s thin that I can balance the cue on to get the spot so I can measure the distance from the tip. Thanks for watching and I’m glad you liked the video!
@@PoolAddiction Thanks for answering my question. I have another: Why do you think your customized shaft caused lower squirt than the standard one?
@@bobcallahan5086 The only physical differences are the joint where the custom had the the wood joint and the tips. I don't think the joint makes any difference and the tips should have a minor difference. I believe the human factor, not every stroke is exactly the same, probably has some to do with it. All that being said, the results between the two are close overall. The tip on the standard (Zan Hybrid Max) was a little harder than the customized (Kamui Black Soft).
@@PoolAddiction Thanks again. It's hard to know how much tip hardness had to do with it. If you haven't already seen it, Dave Alciatore's video is the best resource I know: ruclips.net/video/nx4r0NSsxqo/видео.html
@@bobcallahan5086 I have seen his video on tip hardness and it's a really good one and is part of the reason why I think the tip hardness was a very minor reason for the differences. Dr Dave puts out some very good videos from a scientific/mathmatics perspective. If I am in doubt of something I usually look through his videos to help disprove or confirm something I have experienced. Matter of fact I use his pivot test to help show how low delfection a shaft is.
I hit some CF shafts other guys let me put on my cue butt and liked them a lot. I did notice some differences in how the hits felt like cynergy vs revo etc. I didn't know whether the difference had more to do with cue tips than it had to do with the characteristics of the shafts themselves.
BTW what were the shipping costs ?
I do believe tips are a factor but each company at says that they use their own technology when it comes to the internals of the CF shaft (type of foam used and exactly where they place it within the shaft). What I’m trying to say is there is a design difference. I had to look back on my bank statements and it looks like I paid $25 over the &399 price so shipping isn’t that bad coming from Europe. Things may be different nowadays. I purchased it back in April of last year. Hope this helps and thanks for watching! CORRECTION- I had a Zan tip put on and that was the extra cost and not shipping. Looks like shipping was free.
Could I get like a 3/4inch ferrule put on a GO customs shaft? Or a full core carbon fiber shaft instead of a filled one like the one you just reviewed?
Goran can make one with a 3/4 ferrule. He does a lot of custom options. As far as the core itself, I believe he only makes them his signature way.
Now the question: Go custom vs Prime m?
The GO is really good but I like the Prime M for me.
Will you consider trying OB’s ld shaft? If so are you going to do a video on it.
Which shaft are you thinking? I have an older ob pro. I might get around to talking about it but it’s been awhile since I played with it.
@@PoolAddiction specifically the one I want to see a review on. Will be the carbon fiber shaft that on has.
nice vid! do you think you can do a review of the cuetec avid shaft?
I’m not sure when I might be able to do it but I’ll put it on the list. Thanks for watching!
@@PoolAddiction no worries man, just happy anyone is reviewing pool things on youtube nowadays
Now that a year has passed, what’s your go to carbon fiber shaft? Not sure if you changed your mind, would be useful to know, thanks
I stuck with my Becue Prime as my favorite CF but I mainly play with the Hsunami kielwood now. Still like my CF but the Hsunami is amazing for me.
Please try the Meucci CF if you can get your hands on one.
When I get my hands one I will definitely do it. I hope you liked the video!
Your reviews are the best out there. Keep up the work. I have a 12.4 Revo. Getting used to it. You have to be precise, I like it.
If you had to choose between only 2 shaft. Go customs and revo. What one you picking?
For me, I like the Go over the Revo but my favorite CF shaft is the Becue Engage.
What’s the smoothest or slickest CF you’ve had experience with?
I would have to say the Revo, Cynergy, and Go Custom are all really close and I would be splitting hairs but I would say the Revo has the slight edge with the Go then the Cynergy right behind. Thanks for the comment and for watching.
Do a review on DFE billiard carbon fiber shaft
I plan to sometime soon. I hope liked the video and thanks for watching!
You said the base price is €399 but on their website that is in pounds. So wouldn't the price be higher if converted to USD?
I just double checked the website and it displays the USD price for me and it’s $399 which is the same price I paid. When you went to the site it displayed in euros at 399?
How does the deflection compare to the revo?
All the carbon fiber shafts are very similar. I believe the Revo was slightly better though. Thanks for watching!
Have you tried the Viking siege yet? I want to try the pivot test on it now that I see how you do it.
I’m not sure if you seen Dr Dave’s video on it but it’s supposed to help determine how low deflection a shaft is, basically the further back the pivot point the more low deflection the shaft is. He uses the side pockets on a 9ft table but my table is 7ft and it’s just not wide enough to do the test using the side pocket comfortably. That’s why I used the corner. I haven’t tried the siege yet but I do know about it. Hope you liked the video!
The rock music in the video ...makes it unmatchable....we like to here the hit of the cue ball , not rock out. We want to here what it feels like to you...not rock out!!!
I always hit sounds in my videos. In this one, I have examples around the 19:20 mark. I know my shoot around in this video has only music but I have changed that in my later videos. I am always looking to improve my videos for everyone. One big reason I use music over the b-roll is partially due to the areas where the video is sped up or slowed down since there's no audio. I also want to keep it entertaining. I plan to keep changing my process if it enhances the review experience for everyone. Thank you for the feedback and thanks for watching!
you should try a zan premium tip....I like a soft tip . I think its the best tip in a soft.
I have tried the Zan Premium Soft tips on a few shafts and it's a bit too soft for my taste. I have seen some hardness charts out there and they all say that it's the softest tip on the market right now. Right now I am playing with a regular Zan soft tip on my Hsunami shaft and like it. Thanks for watching!
@@PoolAddiction your correct, they are the softest tips on the market....great for bar box play....I would not suggest them for a 9ft table
@@jaynosowsky9708 That's a good point I never thought of. It would definatley deaden your shot. I am going to have to consider that on the next tip change. Thanks!
Fiiiiiiinally!!!
Are these shafts Go custom SL?
Sorry for the delayed response. Yes, they are the SL shafts.
Wow. I saw someone selling this shaft on ebay and seems like it was cheap. I almost bought I wanted to try primeM more so I stopped.
It is affordable compared to some of them. I don't want to spoil the video so watch and see what I think overall, and that's the key overall. Hopefully, you can make the premiere.
I heard Jacoby is good too. Hope to see your video about that shaft soon
hi.. jacoby black please if possible..
Got it on the list but don’t know when I’ll get to it. Thanks for watching!
I think ultraskins play better than kamui...ultraskins you can get for $8 too..lol kamui is like $24
I haven't tried an Ultraskin yet but I have heard the same thing.
*ALL CARBON SHAFTS ARE THE SAME. THEY ARE CARBON HOLLOW TUBES. MADE IN CHINA. THEN ADD A TIP AND AND THREAD INSERT. THERE IS NO WAY TO MAKE THEM DIFFERENT*