Cause pressing 1-2-1-2-3 over and over is boring and allows bad players to have their performance inflated, thus making everyone else's experience worse. That and it's not fun to play
@@bonfied43sounds like your self worth is tied to your parses lol. I dont like basic specs but there is nothing wrong with different rotations different kind of players.
@ekmettin I agree that different rotations are important. 100%. I also think people like the game differently. Some super comp, some causal. Nothing wrong with either.
I mean BM was a top 3 dps for like all of season 3 and it’s probably the simplest dps rotation so I think certain classes just have their moment to shine every couple of seasons
Fury is nerf not buff you missed the point , fury was op on m+ last build they nerfed odyns fury and bloodthirst variants. Probably its a huge nerf considering how well it synced with slayer maybe even rip slayer
Balance Druid needs a serious reqork. The eclipse system just sucks, there's no other way to put it. Having to do two casts to get into that and you need to multi-dot before you even get to your fillers is a chore. Even single target its two fillers and two to 3 dots before you even cast a spender, and you will be refreshing those forever. I'd like them to drop ecplise all together... just make it our big cooldown but give us our mastery without it. It's ot that we can't maintain those, its that they are boring and tedious. Instead give us something to proc and respond to, something exciting especially with the loss of Pulsar. At thsi point I am switching to mage if things don't change ... and I have almost 20 years of crit chicken under my belt.
Fury did not get buffed. Fury got a RB and rampage buff as a compensation for the nerfs to bloodthirst and odyn's fury, which were warranted considering that they were doing absurd damage on the beta. Notably, bloodthirst actually got triple nerfed. It's damage was nerfed, a talent got nerfed, and a bug was fixed on that same talent that was causing it to do more damage than intended. The nerfs to bloodthirst add up to being very heavy handed, possibly too heavy handed, as the developers attempt to reel back the countless number of bloodthirst buffs they've given over the course of dragon flight in an effort to get fury to have a reason to incorporate bloodthirst into the rotation alongside raging blow. We'll see just how impactful these nerfs are on our overall damage, as the compensation buffs seem rather soft by comparison.
there are prob no devs for FDK. Looks like most changes to the spec come from class discord suggestions lol... Literally no FDK likes to play breath. They need to delete the whole spec and remake it from 0
You rogues just can't get enough can you? At least one spec of rogue has been on the meta for the last 4 years while many other classes weren't for even 1 season. I think it's time for the rogue class to go down for a while
Both San’layn and Rider have game breaking bugs for example SL giving 147% haste and riders not casting abilities correctly. The tuning should not have occurred for DK until these bugs had been fixed to get a true indication of what the spec is doing!
@@schmooplesthesecond5997 Long build up, you need all your CDs when breath is up, 2 min CD, and if you fail at something or you need to deal with mechanic you lose whole breath coz you can't pause it or anything. There is too much to deal with for not that much more dps compared to Obliteration build.
Arcane wasn't nerfed really (like Izen said), the talent shuffle made things more accessible and missiles dmg went up by a lot (not only the 20% increase but buff and bug fix on the attunement)
for pala ret they need make a change between crusade and devotion talent or just remove crusade from ret pala and put again ret aura simple..plu ther nerf ret got so far
Dude, what are you smoking, removing Crackling energy, chronoshift is good? crackling energy was giving y 20% increased damage for blast, additionally they are nerfing it further by 10 %, minus 30% is good thing for ya? Chronoshift may seems boring for PvE but its absolutely mandatory for PvP, mage def is made from cardboard, need to avoid damage as its essential, its killing nerf dude..... arcane was finally fun to play so Blizz thought: ok, y guys had your fan, time to kill spec.....
bro is tripping, demo locks have used shadow invocation for the passed 2 seasons, and its a good % of your damage too, its also mostly shared fate proccing bombers
Arcane was nerfed in numbers yes but the talent tree changes definitely compensate. In terms of DPS it will probably be the best mage spec in season 1. It will be the raid spec, I don’t know if it will compete with fire in m+ because it lacks the cheat :(
I hope sm that arcane is best mage spec for raid in s1 I had to convinced my whole mythic raid to play arcane instead of fire… And ig it blows up in TWW, im in heaven
Oh I'm pissed at blizzard you can say that again. As a Ret, ALL of our utility you can get from Prot and Holy, but they also can bring Spellwarding or Aura Mastery. Looking at the raid on the video, what a surprise, the only paladin in the group is Holy. wow, great work there blizzard. I would say oh our damage is great, but it never really is, because once other dps classes come online, we are back to middle of the pack in over all. And even our tankiness are practically one more nerf from being back to Pre-rework. If I even stay with Retribution, I'll run devo for my guild, but pugs all your getting is crusader aura, and you'll like it.
@@lullaonyx6427 Why should I play specs that I don't enjoy? I prot paladin for years in TBC and beginning of Wrath. But once I was able to move to Ret, where I wanted to be all along. I haven't looked back. And Holy, when I did play it, it was during the time when Melee Holy was king. They are trying as it seems to send it back to caster, and that isn't paladin in my book. That is Cleric and Priest.
IN EU dungeon finder doesnt work. As an healer i was wating 1,5h to join and it kicked me out form queue (normal) for random hero you cant queue at all.
So why are simpler rotations always bad? Does every spec need to require twitchy fingers and be mega-complicated?
Cause pressing 1-2-1-2-3 over and over is boring and allows bad players to have their performance inflated, thus making everyone else's experience worse.
That and it's not fun to play
@@bonfied43sounds like your self worth is tied to your parses lol. I dont like basic specs but there is nothing wrong with different rotations different kind of players.
@ekmettin I agree that different rotations are important. 100%. I also think people like the game differently. Some super comp, some causal. Nothing wrong with either.
@bonfied43 what i read here is a player who forget about mechanics
I mean BM was a top 3 dps for like all of season 3 and it’s probably the simplest dps rotation so I think certain classes just have their moment to shine every couple of seasons
Why do i feel always a Little Hate against warriors Mister izen?
why did they give hunters more damage
Fury is nerf not buff you missed the point , fury was op on m+ last build they nerfed odyns fury and bloodthirst variants. Probably its a huge nerf considering how well it synced with slayer maybe even rip slayer
But rampage buff
Balance Druid needs a serious reqork. The eclipse system just sucks, there's no other way to put it. Having to do two casts to get into that and you need to multi-dot before you even get to your fillers is a chore. Even single target its two fillers and two to 3 dots before you even cast a spender, and you will be refreshing those forever. I'd like them to drop ecplise all together... just make it our big cooldown but give us our mastery without it. It's ot that we can't maintain those, its that they are boring and tedious. Instead give us something to proc and respond to, something exciting especially with the loss of Pulsar. At thsi point I am switching to mage if things don't change ... and I have almost 20 years of crit chicken under my belt.
As others have pointed out, but it bears repeating, Fury was not buffed, it was nerfed.
Fury did not get buffed. Fury got a RB and rampage buff as a compensation for the nerfs to bloodthirst and odyn's fury, which were warranted considering that they were doing absurd damage on the beta.
Notably, bloodthirst actually got triple nerfed. It's damage was nerfed, a talent got nerfed, and a bug was fixed on that same talent that was causing it to do more damage than intended. The nerfs to bloodthirst add up to being very heavy handed, possibly too heavy handed, as the developers attempt to reel back the countless number of bloodthirst buffs they've given over the course of dragon flight in an effort to get fury to have a reason to incorporate bloodthirst into the rotation alongside raging blow. We'll see just how impactful these nerfs are on our overall damage, as the compensation buffs seem rather soft by comparison.
tbf that 15% odyns fury nerf didnt do much coz OF is still crazy dmg
Shadow invocation has been a staple in AoE for 2 seasons now. def not an ignored talent.
frost dk has to be the most boring class going into tww. maybe one day the devs will actually listen and rework the fucking spec.
there are prob no devs for FDK. Looks like most changes to the spec come from class discord suggestions lol... Literally no FDK likes to play breath. They need to delete the whole spec and remake it from 0
bm hunter is super boring too, its just strong
im going Frost for TWW and i might play Breath too.
Im trying to like it but im thinking survival is more exciting
@@richiepipes8960 yeah I mean the fact they added another build instead of fleshing out or just giving a real rework is crazy.
San’layn is completely ruined for blood. Silly choice. Deathbringer was already way better for blood. The healing nerf on vamp strike just… weird.
Bring back Chronoshift for Arcane Mage.
Warrior is slightly above average = insta nerf
warrior is forever average
Facts
Shattered frost is doing incredible damage. You didnt even take artic assault which is hannds down the best talent frost has...
Tuning? As a rogue I'm not sure what this means!
We just got like 15% aura buffs a week ago or whatever. Don't be schizo.
@@Frawt what aura buff?
You rogues just can't get enough can you?
At least one spec of rogue has been on the meta for the last 4 years while many other classes weren't for even 1 season. I think it's time for the rogue class to go down for a while
Dont tell me chrono shift being removed is good. Good f'n luck pvping as arcane mage without it.
Both San’layn and Rider have game breaking bugs for example SL giving 147% haste and riders not casting abilities correctly. The tuning should not have occurred for DK until these bugs had been fixed to get a true indication of what the spec is doing!
This 100%
Fuck i hate Breath of Sindragosa with burning passion. I would love to play FDK if not for the fact it will be top talent to pick for first season.
@@Shinio69 all FDK have been saying this for a while and they just double down on it.
i dont understand why people dont like it
@@schmooplesthesecond5997 Long build up, you need all your CDs when breath is up, 2 min CD, and if you fail at something or you need to deal with mechanic you lose whole breath coz you can't pause it or anything. There is too much to deal with for not that much more dps compared to Obliteration build.
u must not arcane mage? Chrono shift loss is big.
“The O.P.ness…” good one 8:08
Arcane wasn't nerfed really (like Izen said), the talent shuffle made things more accessible and missiles dmg went up by a lot (not only the 20% increase but buff and bug fix on the attunement)
Dude, chronoshift was absolute main for PvP, as much as for pve is more less ok but for PvP is killer, massive mobility nerf...
@@bravos2709 maybe they'll still add it as a pvp talent. put a suggestion for them.
Arcane is still way too over tuned
I literally logged off my arcane when i read this yesterday. always catering pve and spitting on pvp players.
losing chrono shift sucks, actually
Did he just skip over "arcane splinter damage reduced by 3%" when he talked about arcane nerfs
Sad there is no changes on rogue 😢
As a main warlock demo player I say that shadow evocation is working as intended with soul harvester
for pala ret they need make a change between crusade and devotion talent or just remove crusade from ret pala and put again ret aura simple..plu ther nerf ret got so far
Implosion Trap has a toolkit that states it exploes. That's simply contradicting!
Dude, what are you smoking, removing Crackling energy, chronoshift is good? crackling energy was giving y 20% increased damage for blast, additionally they are nerfing it further by 10 %, minus 30% is good thing for ya? Chronoshift may seems boring for PvE but its absolutely mandatory for PvP, mage def is made from cardboard, need to avoid damage as its essential, its killing nerf dude..... arcane was finally fun to play so Blizz thought: ok, y guys had your fan, time to kill spec.....
I like the new talent tree but i agree. Chrono shift feels so good, i pick it all the time in pve and pvp
warlocks seem fine no changes needed
Unholy DK nerfs were warranted and so war Arcane but i feel like they will still Pump lmao.
Now it's time to rogue reworks no? 😊
Ele is absolute trash for pvp now. I hate it.
for pve also, ele is at its worst state since classic imo
No fun allowed!
Thank you for your video
bro is tripping, demo locks have used shadow invocation for the passed 2 seasons, and its a good % of your damage too, its also mostly shared fate proccing bombers
Arcane was nerfed in numbers yes but the talent tree changes definitely compensate. In terms of DPS it will probably be the best mage spec in season 1. It will be the raid spec, I don’t know if it will compete with fire in m+ because it lacks the cheat :(
I hope sm that arcane is best mage spec for raid in s1
I had to convinced my whole mythic raid to play arcane instead of fire…
And ig it blows up in TWW, im in heaven
Oh I'm pissed at blizzard you can say that again. As a Ret, ALL of our utility you can get from Prot and Holy, but they also can bring Spellwarding or Aura Mastery. Looking at the raid on the video, what a surprise, the only paladin in the group is Holy. wow, great work there blizzard. I would say oh our damage is great, but it never really is, because once other dps classes come online, we are back to middle of the pack in over all. And even our tankiness are practically one more nerf from being back to Pre-rework.
If I even stay with Retribution, I'll run devo for my guild, but pugs all your getting is crusader aura, and you'll like it.
Ouin ouin . Many class dont got 2 time the same class and diff spe in raid . Stop crying play prot and holy too
@@lullaonyx6427 Why should I play specs that I don't enjoy? I prot paladin for years in TBC and beginning of Wrath. But once I was able to move to Ret, where I wanted to be all along. I haven't looked back.
And Holy, when I did play it, it was during the time when Melee Holy was king. They are trying as it seems to send it back to caster, and that isn't paladin in my book. That is Cleric and Priest.
IN EU dungeon finder doesnt work. As an healer i was wating 1,5h to join and it kicked me out form queue (normal) for random hero you cant queue at all.