you know, even on the streets, it is said that you never move the body unless there's fire caught all around. If the car is not burning, you shouldn't even move it. Or at least, do it gently.
The marshall that turned the car over in a clumsy manner was not so clever, but just watch how quickly Prof Sid Watkins arrives and gets to work. He was able to save Rubens here but sadly not Roland or Ayrton despite his heroic efforts. The guy is a true legend and perhaps the main reason F1 is thankfully so much safer these days.
In one of the magazines of that era, analysing the fatal weekend of Imola, they blame for the tragic accidents the ban of the electronic aids (energetic suspensions) of the previous year, something that made the cars more difficult to tame in the limit. Only after Imola's changes the cars were again drivelable and could work without sophisticated suspensions...
no my friend . senna did not broke his neck .he had severe head injuries but not a broken neck. as far ratzenberger is concerned ,i totaly agree with you
its not exactly the same, rubens didnt break hard enough, so he carried too much speed in the first corner, so he ran wide and so entered the second corner on the inside. because of the turning curve a f1 car makes at that speed, he ran out too wide in the exit of the second corner, entering the grass and losing controll. senna just broke his steeringrod, and lost complete control, being in a curve, simple physics turning his wheels straight and drive into the wall
Oh shit. The way the marshalls just drops the car back onto the ground. He's neck could have been badly damaged during that. Especially because he looks unconscious, and then he's neck muscles can't help him. That is a scary to watch.
You forget something here...the most important thing: the ANGLE of impact! A tyrewall could have saved Senna because the impact was head on! But in Barichellos case the angle of impact would have made the car bounce of and thus NOT stopping it at that glimpse of a aecond that cause that major G-forces! Very roughly: Small angle like, Barichellos impact you would have a concrete wall! Large to head-on angle: you would deperately need something to absorb some energy!
Barrichello tweeted earlier: It was Sid Watkins that saved my life in Imola 94.great guy to be with,always happy...tks for everything u have done for us drivers.RIP Sad news, which brought me here.
my god, seen the marshall drops the car like that, its no wonder that wknd was such a black day for f1. glad everyone else recognises this too. seen the Senna documentary, highly fascinating and disturbing!
Back then there was no protection ahead of tyre wall, unlike nowadays there are sheets ahead of tyre wall and between every row of tyres. If you compare some crashes to tyre wall in this decade you may see difference.
Um no. This crash with Reubens was on Friday. Saturday was when Roland crashed, and Sunday was Ayrton. He seen Reubens at the medical clinic on track and spoke with Sir Sid Watkins. I don't believe Reubens spent the night in hospital because he was st the track the next day.
wow at 0:46 you can actually see the moment when the doctor puts the neckbrace on the side of the car, the other guy tell him rubens has swallowed his tongue you can instantly see his reaction probably the only person there that seemed to have any comprehension of what to do
Well, the fact is also that the places where Ratzenberger and Senna crash are completely not covered with tires. If the walls were covered with tires they would still be injured, but alive. Unfortunatly we will never find out.
At 0:46 they realize Rubens has swallowed his tongue and they need to perform tracheotomy to restore the breathing. You can see by the body movement how tense this moment was.
This accident is proof that soft tyre barriers is not ALWAYS for the better! In this accdident It's the tyres that "catches" the car and making that super rapid stop, pulling A LOT of harmfull g-forces! A concrete wall would have made the car bounce off, not making such a rapid stop and therefore saving the driver from pulling all those G-forces! How the tyres catches the car can be seen better in some of the other camera angles!
My bleeping God who designed that corner, Homer Simpson? 1. Create curb shaped like ramp 2. Create tire wall just short enough to be able to stop nothing. 3. Stand back and watch the fun.
With Senna, it didn't matter what angle he hit the wall. One of the suspension arms went through his helmet, another throuhg his visor. Also, the right front hit him in the head. A tire wall might have saved him, but that's asking a bit much. The good thing is that now, things are much safer, and the take great care to make sure the driver's are as safe as possible. They'd never drop the car like they did here-it could've killed poor Ruebens!
It's a good thing they stopped using the Imola circuit. It wouldn't be worth all of the ferocious arguments that the sentence "Hey honey, going to Imola this weekend" probably would've caused.
actually it has more to do with the banning of the active suspension.. also this particular accident was admittedly the fault of the driver.. in a later interview he states he entered the chicane too fast..
Erm, I know this is an old message, but you are now aware that this was in fact Barrichello right? He did crash at Imola too, and was a lucky man indeed.
WHAT ON EARTH WERE THE MARSHALLS THINKING???? A horrible weekend, when you look at this video it so easily could have been three gone from us :( RIP Ratzenberger and Senna. I would love to see Barrichello get a drive again next year, I want to see him get the 300 starts he said he wanted :)
Again please look at the vids where you see the slow motion from the other angle! The tyrebarrier catches the cars to right whell and pulls in to a complete stop!!!....in like 5 meters...thats means that all of that energy is converted to a lot of harmfull G's! Had it been a hard wall, then - with the small impacts angle - the cars would not go to such a rapid stop, but bounce off! And that what you dont want...a rapid stop cause that = a lot of G's!
Maybe the marshalls thought that he couldn't have survived the crash and were not trained enough. Not, by any means taking up for their bone head actions, but you would thin that after everything that happened in the early years of this type of race, that by 94 they would have learned.
@gthilly1 seen the documentary at IFI in Dublin, its prob out of cinemas now but you could download it or wait a short while for the dvd, highly recommend it! Though sound of amped up F1 cars in a full on theatre was spectacular!
tamburello was ok...flat out...full throttle..yeah it was bumpy but relative easy for modern cars.. problem was, there was no safety run wide area...only wall...which protects a creek runs behind it i think...
Yep! His front wing broke off after Tamburello making him unable to take the Villeneuve corner before Tosa...the speed being 300+...probably 310-320 and with no front wing braking is minimal! Does anyone know - by telemetry - what his factual inpact speed was!
@lanpingpug I know ! There must have been a reason why they flipped his car over like that. Perhaps they thought It could explode in flames and they needed to get it over before that happened.
0:16-0:18: WTF ARE YOU DOING?! Oh and did you see the slipping marshall at the background?...It's not a miracle that two drivers died on that weekend...
@2quick49 Indeed. If Rubens was heavily injured, which was possible in such crash, they could give with this stupid action the last push to his death. Glad he came out of it with only a few teeth less.
Jesus! If he had sustained a spinal injury before they rolled that thing over, you might as well have bought him a wheelchair out right there and then.
Bloody lucky there was a Fence there ! 50 People could have been killed..1955 all over again,I taped that weekend of F1 racing in 1994,,,fuckin so surreal ,I could`t believe what I was seeing !
I think you are badly wrong. In your case Senna should live still nowadays and Barrichello should die during that race. A wall is a wall and is not absorbing anything of the impact. You just drive with 200km/h+ into a piece of concrete. These tires saved Rubinho from more harmfull injuries. Also the drivers are trained and used to G-forces, not that many like with an accident, but that makes it easier for them to survive a crash.
he is very lucky, those marshalls just let the car drop!! they could have atleast doen it gently, what if he sustained spinal damage or something like that???
@sennaf1god94 Oh please. Have you ever been in that situation? Are you a fire marshal? The fire marshal (the guy in the red suit) is doing what he has to do: he must avoid any damage to people caused by fire, he shouldn't even touch the pilot unless in clear and present danger (which is not the case here).
I'm afraid Button has the best chances this year and i hope Rubens can win still some races as he deserves it, but to win the Championship is maybe already to late :-)
I'm posting this on this video because i know that true formula 1 fans would read this. what do you think about the idea of introducing the new medal sistem into the championship. so the driver with most gold medals is the champion? voy a poner esto aqui para que verdaderos fanaticos de la F1 lo lean. que opinan de la idea de introducir un nuevo sistema de medallas en el campeonato para que el piloto con mas medallas de oro sea el campeon?
obviously they turned the car over too get him up incase it sets on fire, look at how many F1 cars have set on fire, especially the Roger Williamson one
I hope they have gotten rid of those redictously high curbs in a simulator I hit a curb design to keep F1 drivers from cutting the chicane an not sure what I hit someone told me later I had a 2007 William's F1 car pointing straight at the moon then it slammed back down flat on its stomach an impact that would have surely maybe broken vertebrae by way of compression fracture worse was I did not even know what happen needless to say I broke the gear box in half or the motor car ran for a couple seconds an quit toast and I I specialize in long tracks first time back in my home country at a track I was proud to be at...what da heck use cones gumbas my god
you know, even on the streets, it is said that you never move the body unless there's fire caught all around. If the car is not burning, you shouldn't even move it. Or at least, do it gently.
The marshall that turned the car over in a clumsy manner was not so clever, but just watch how quickly Prof Sid Watkins arrives and gets to work. He was able to save Rubens here but sadly not Roland or Ayrton despite his heroic efforts. The guy is a true legend and perhaps the main reason F1 is thankfully so much safer these days.
Anyone else find it a bit odd that Senna's name and number was being displayed at the time of this crash?
In one of the magazines of that era, analysing the fatal weekend of Imola, they blame for the tragic accidents the ban of the electronic aids (energetic suspensions) of the previous year, something that made the cars more difficult to tame in the limit. Only after Imola's changes the cars were again drivelable and could work without sophisticated suspensions...
no my friend . senna did not broke his neck .he had severe head injuries but not a broken neck. as far ratzenberger is concerned ,i totaly agree with you
its not exactly the same, rubens didnt break hard enough, so he carried too much speed in the first corner, so he ran wide and so entered the second corner on the inside. because of the turning curve a f1 car makes at that speed, he ran out too wide in the exit of the second corner, entering the grass and losing controll. senna just broke his steeringrod, and lost complete control, being in a curve, simple physics turning his wheels straight and drive into the wall
What the fuck were they doing slamming the car back over like that?Probably fucked his neck up even more.
Oh shit. The way the marshalls just drops the car back onto the ground. He's neck could have been badly damaged during that. Especially because he looks unconscious, and then he's neck muscles can't help him. That is a scary to watch.
Barrichello,Senna,Ratzenberger
Imola is lethal
A start to one of the worst weekends in Formula 1 history, you'd think they'd black flag the race after Ratzenberger.
This video shocks me. The marshalls here could easily have killed Rubens by turning over the car if he had any head injuries. Unbelievable....
You forget something here...the most important thing: the ANGLE of impact!
A tyrewall could have saved Senna because the impact was head on!
But in Barichellos case the angle of impact would have made the car bounce of and thus NOT stopping it at that glimpse of a aecond that cause that major G-forces!
Very roughly: Small angle like, Barichellos impact you would have a concrete wall!
Large to head-on angle: you would deperately need something to absorb some energy!
Barrichello tweeted earlier: It was Sid Watkins that saved my life in Imola 94.great guy to be with,always happy...tks for everything u have done for us drivers.RIP
Sad news, which brought me here.
@pigeonkill he didn't have a traechostomy . he was out of hospital the next day .
Since this crash, I never saw a crashed F1 car being turned around while the driver is not secured by the medical team... It just makes sense
my god, seen the marshall drops the car like that, its no wonder that wknd was such a black day for f1. glad everyone else recognises this too. seen the Senna documentary, highly fascinating and disturbing!
Back then there was no protection ahead of tyre wall, unlike nowadays there are sheets ahead of tyre wall and between every row of tyres. If you compare some crashes to tyre wall in this decade you may see difference.
The commentator also says that in Dutch, that the marshalls were acting stupid when they flipped over the car.
RIP Sid
This crash was Rubens alright. Ayrton went to see him in hospital that night (not knowing he would have a horrific crash himself the very next day)
Um no. This crash with Reubens was on Friday. Saturday was when Roland crashed, and Sunday was Ayrton. He seen Reubens at the medical clinic on track and spoke with Sir Sid Watkins. I don't believe Reubens spent the night in hospital because he was st the track the next day.
wow at 0:46 you can actually see the moment when the doctor puts the neckbrace on the side of the car, the other guy tell him rubens has swallowed his tongue you can instantly see his reaction probably the only person there that seemed to have any comprehension of what to do
Pretty hard to beliver that 2 drivers died there in 2 days, very very sad
those cars are so light... the marshalls turn it upside with such ease
Well, the fact is also that the places where Ratzenberger and Senna crash are completely not covered with tires. If the walls were covered with tires they would still be injured, but alive. Unfortunatly we will never find out.
At 0:46 they realize Rubens has swallowed his tongue and they need to perform tracheotomy to restore the breathing. You can see by the body movement how tense this moment was.
This accident is proof that soft tyre barriers is not ALWAYS for the better!
In this accdident It's the tyres that "catches" the car and making that super rapid stop, pulling A LOT of harmfull g-forces!
A concrete wall would have made the car bounce off, not making such a rapid stop and therefore saving the driver from pulling all those G-forces!
How the tyres catches the car can be seen better in some of the other camera angles!
My bleeping God who designed that corner, Homer Simpson?
1. Create curb shaped like ramp
2. Create tire wall just short enough to be able to stop nothing.
3. Stand back and watch the fun.
In the Senna film they show Senna's face as he watches Rubens' crash. He is absolutely horrified.
Those tires look like they help a bit, this was just a horror weekend ;(
wierd diffuser design - had never noticed before. Only one exhaust?
With Senna, it didn't matter what angle he hit the wall. One of the suspension arms went through his helmet, another throuhg his visor. Also, the right front hit him in the head.
A tire wall might have saved him, but that's asking a bit much. The good thing is that now, things are much safer, and the take great care to make sure the driver's are as safe as possible. They'd never drop the car like they did here-it could've killed poor Ruebens!
It's a good thing they stopped using the Imola circuit. It wouldn't be worth all of the ferocious arguments that the sentence "Hey honey, going to Imola this weekend" probably would've caused.
The commentary is in dutch by the way. What the man is saying is that the marshalls are very stupid by flipping the car over.
Thank god Rubens was ok. Little did we know there was worse to come that weekend...
actually it has more to do with the banning of the active suspension..
also this particular accident was admittedly the fault of the driver.. in a later interview he states he entered the chicane too fast..
Erm, I know this is an old message, but you are now aware that this was in fact Barrichello right? He did crash at Imola too, and was a lucky man indeed.
They did that with Martin Brundle as well.
WHAT ON EARTH WERE THE MARSHALLS THINKING???? A horrible weekend, when you look at this video it so easily could have been three gone from us :( RIP Ratzenberger and Senna. I would love to see Barrichello get a drive again next year, I want to see him get the 300 starts he said he wanted :)
I have uploaded qualifying from Imola 94 if anyone's interested. But it is edited after Roland's crash
@niall1000 were did you see the senna documentary
Again please look at the vids where you see the slow motion from the other angle!
The tyrebarrier catches the cars to right whell and pulls in to a complete stop!!!....in like 5 meters...thats means that all of that energy is converted to a lot of harmfull G's!
Had it been a hard wall, then - with the small impacts angle - the cars would not go to such a rapid stop, but bounce off!
And that what you dont want...a rapid stop cause that = a lot of G's!
Maybe the marshalls thought that he couldn't have survived the crash and were not trained enough. Not, by any means taking up for their bone head actions, but you would thin that after everything that happened in the early years of this type of race, that by 94 they would have learned.
@gthilly1 seen the documentary at IFI in Dublin, its prob out of cinemas now but you could download it or wait a short while for the dvd, highly recommend it! Though sound of amped up F1 cars in a full on theatre was spectacular!
Why is it that every freaking f1 vid i see when someone crashes the marshals take FOREVER to get the driver taken care of?
tamburello was ok...flat out...full throttle..yeah it was bumpy but relative easy for modern cars..
problem was, there was no safety run wide area...only wall...which protects a creek runs behind it i think...
was this just before the final corner?
Yep!
His front wing broke off after Tamburello making him unable to take the Villeneuve corner before Tosa...the speed being 300+...probably 310-320 and with no front wing braking is minimal!
Does anyone know - by telemetry - what his factual inpact speed was!
@lanpingpug I know ! There must have been a reason why they flipped his car over like that. Perhaps they thought It could explode in flames and they needed to get it over before that happened.
Steering column? No!
And what could have happened to Pedro Lamy and J.J Letho? It was a very bad weekend!!
There was something broken at Rolands car, much?
0:16-0:18: WTF ARE YOU DOING?!
Oh and did you see the slipping marshall at the background?...It's not a miracle that two drivers died on that weekend...
0:20 , Rubens almost broken neck. Stupid marshalls.
the saved 1 lost 2 at that weekend
@2quick49
Indeed. If Rubens was heavily injured, which was possible in such crash, they could give with this stupid action the last push to his death. Glad he came out of it with only a few teeth less.
Sennas was soo unlucky there! T
That suspension piece could have gone anywere else...bot no! 15 years these days!
when did f1 start using crew trucks for saftey crews? All the first responders respond on foot.
@2quick49 yup, but it was 1994...Times are so much changed since then and after Senna.
nice job by the safety worker. just flip drop the car back over. wouldnt wanna make sure hes ok or not.
Jesus! If he had sustained a spinal injury before they rolled that thing over, you might as well have bought him a wheelchair out right there and then.
@flipsidedogchop absolutely 100% agree. He saved multiple lives including Rubens and Mika Hakkinen. F1 is a lot safer because of The Prof
@mailmeonline i see,but look how hard they turned over the car,now i know its heavy but they could have had more than 2 marshalls to flip it over.
Bloody lucky there was a Fence there ! 50 People could have been killed..1955 all over again,I taped that weekend of F1 racing in 1994,,,fuckin so surreal ,I could`t believe what I was seeing !
1:48 watch how fast the doctor is working.
@sennaf1god94 if the grass begins to burn there is no chance to get barichello out
yeah, that's what that commentator is saying, too.
I think you are badly wrong. In your case Senna should live still nowadays and Barrichello should die during that race. A wall is a wall and is not absorbing anything of the impact. You just drive with 200km/h+ into a piece of concrete. These tires saved Rubinho from more harmfull injuries. Also the drivers are trained and used to G-forces, not that many like with an accident, but that makes it easier for them to survive a crash.
he is very lucky, those marshalls just let the car drop!! they could have atleast doen it gently, what if he sustained spinal damage or something like that???
@sennaf1god94 Oh please. Have you ever been in that situation? Are you a fire marshal?
The fire marshal (the guy in the red suit) is doing what he has to do: he must avoid any damage to people caused by fire, he shouldn't even touch the pilot unless in clear and present danger (which is not the case here).
I'm afraid Button has the best chances this year and i hope Rubens can win still some races as he deserves it, but to win the Championship is maybe already to late :-)
@bpisports not if he was at the posting fast laps all weekend...
@redbull69cl IF the driver has head/neck injuries, moving him could paralyze him or even kill him
That was almost made 3 driver died in Imola 1994.
great idea flipping the car over like that .
Wie lustig: Erst wird das Auto auf die Räder "geschmissen" das der Kopf von Barrichello wackelt und dann bekommt er eine Halskrause an... Bravo!
I'm afraid noone could save Senna with such an impact. If someone is braindead you can do nothing.
I'm posting this on this video because i know that true formula 1 fans would read this. what do you think about the idea of introducing the new medal sistem into the championship. so the driver with most gold medals is the champion?
voy a poner esto aqui para que verdaderos fanaticos de la F1 lo lean. que opinan de la idea de introducir un nuevo sistema de medallas en el campeonato para que el piloto con mas medallas de oro sea el campeon?
Sid Watkins - F1 legend
@2quick49
Totally agree, what a meathead. Certainly a weekend to forget in F1 History
I don't think the crew from 1994 will listen to you -.-
Does F1 train their officials?
Well, JJ Lehto made also a big crash, so count him in also.
@cosmictywlite That's a good word for it . I remember it well and it was 'surreal' . Just one thing after another.
@dude2106 I agree.
@2quick49 indeed with his head and neck injured they did very stupid move!
yeah i agree did u see his head
obviously they turned the car over too get him up incase it sets on fire, look at how many F1 cars have set on fire, especially the Roger Williamson one
No one even checked on him for about a minute while they were all running around
The same happened immediately following Senna's accident. Lots of people running around, and no one attending to the driver.
@@andysixspeed Marshalls are not medics!!.Proff Sid Watkins and the posse of Doctors were there in seconds and are there at every race weekend!
He could have easliy been killed there, lucky enough he survived.
@AtTheDriveBy Ratzenberger and Senna died that weekend
and the other one on the right with the flag slipped
no wonder he had head dammae it was cuz of when they flipped the car he got nailed
@Bastacat Me?No.Everybody else on RUclips?A few,yes.
@BonakiD24 ...and ratzenberger in qualifying
初めの方でドライバーがコックピットに乗ったままの状態なのにマシンを地面に降ろしてるけど衝撃やばない？
@bpisports lol,nope.
@niall1000 yeh this was true racing not like today
Prof Sid Watkins should be knighted!
I hope they have gotten rid of those redictously high curbs in a simulator I hit a curb design to keep F1 drivers from cutting the chicane an not sure what I hit someone told me later I had a 2007 William's F1 car pointing straight at the moon then it slammed back down flat on its stomach an impact that would have surely maybe broken vertebrae by way of compression fracture worse was I did not even know what happen needless to say I broke the gear box in half or the motor car ran for a couple seconds an quit toast and I I specialize in long tracks first time back in my home country at a track I was proud to be at...what da heck use cones gumbas my god
@2quick49
he almost hit a photograph!