Thank you and God for this video! I was dieing here. I thought the old spring wires was some half attempt at fixing the chime. Thank you so much! Im getting that book!
thank you once again for a first class tutorial on aspects of Ansonia style clocks. I have been at my wits end trying to buy replacement springs and thanks to time4clocks who pointed me once again to your videos. You have started my experience of making the new springs myself for my Ansonia style, very old trains, for the striking clock.
Thank you for this video.... I recently redid an old Seth Thomas weight driven movement as my first clock.... and there was a ridiculous spring on the count lever, I figured it wasn't supposed to be there, but of course it won't strike right without it. The one that was on it though was an old extension spring from something, no way it was original, so this will help me figure out a good way to do it, thank you.
Doing an Waturbury Ogee as my first clock. Got it re-bushed, cleaned, and reassembled. Went to put the strike spring into tension on the post and the original brass spring wire snapped off! 🥺 Now I've got to order the wire to make a new spring. Thanks for the video!
I need to find some brass spring wire .072" diameter to replace 61 pallet springs in a reed organ, Malin Co's web site doesnt even seem to show they have brass wire any more, I havent been able to find the wire. I'm assuming this spring wire needs to be half-hard? from the descriptions on it, it seems hard will be too stiff, I have to make a one loop coil at one end of each 6" long wire, a slight bend at the other end, and a curvature across it's length.
Thanks for the spring tips! The hammer spring on an Ansonia clock I am working on just broke, and I expect to use your advice to wind a new spring for it.
Very nice. I learned a lot from this video. You have a very neat shop. I dislike watching videos where a shop has so much clutter. You just wonder about a guy like that. Is his mind that disorderly as well?
Thanks for the video. I had used .016" brass spring wire on a New Haven time and strike clock, after a year of running fine it started to skip count on the hours & 1/2 hours. I will try .020" gauge with your method. I also found .032 was too strong for the hammer, and will try .025. I put in new mainsprings each .0165" strength, maybe that's why. Could the strike levers be blued and hardened with a torch? Or are they too soft a steel to blue & should I avoid trying to stiffen the levers? I found that the smaller gauge (.016 levers & .020 hammer as well as .014" M/S's) seem to work on the smaller Ansonia movements. Conover's manuals are the best!
Fantastic demo;sliding the spring into the proper place is awesome.Can a broken spring of striking wall clock(Seth Thomas) be welded?will it withstand the tension?
For what it's worth, my current Ansonia clock uses two different diameters of wire for its brass springs. I measured the diameter of the hammer spring at 0.52 mm, which is likely 24 gauge wire, such as timesavers.com/i-8946642-brass-spring-wire-24-gauge.html; meanwhile, I measured the lever spring - a weaker spring - for this clock at 0.40 mm, which is likely 26 gauge wire, such as timesavers.com/i-8946643-brass-spring-wire-26-gauge.html. I imagine that if you put too strong a spring on the hammer, the clock could stop because the spring put too much load on the strike train.If the spring is totally missing, I'd recommend asking your question on NAWCC.org message boards, which I've found to be a gold mine of useful help.
Good vid. Do you know where to get larger dia. brass spring wire? 22 gage is the largest i find, but an old cuckoo from 1860 needs spring wire at least 16 gage or larger. Maybe 12 gage.
No I do not. I am assuming that you need it for the hammer return springs, possible to use a steel wire with a brass finish. When you search try using the name "memory wire"
great video. thank you. i just put together my 1874 Waterbury mantel clock works after replacing about 1/2 dozen bushing. this is my 1st clock repair. all works now were it didn't before. only problem i'm having is on the alarming side where my alarming runs constant without stopping until the MS unwinds down. thoughts anyone?
Most likely it is not catching the locking pin when the locking lever drops into its slot, though it depends on what type of set-up you have. I would refer you to Tascione clock repair course's. Here is a link to one of his animated videos clips. learntimeonline.com/best-clock-repair-videos/count-wheel-strike-animation/ that may help, his courses on clock repair are very good, maybe worth looking into them. Thanks for the question, William
I recently had a similar problem with an Ansonia clock I'm working on: the clock would occasionally - and only occasionally - skip the first stop (deep gap in the count wheel) when striking. For that clock, I found I needed to adjust the position of two different gears in the strike train. John Furcean mentions the position of the warning wheel (the wheel with pins that stop the striking) in his Ansonia reassembly video, ruclips.net/video/UXfww79qi3M/видео.html. Steven Conover's excellent book goes into more detail about the alignment of gears and levers. His book is available at timesavers.com/i-8944875-striking-clock-repair-guide-by-steven-conover.html.
Jean, thanks for the comment...It all depends on your needs...you can wind up a spring 4 different ways depending on how it will mount to the arbor and the direction of force you want. Have a great day.
Thank you and God for this video! I was dieing here. I thought the old spring wires was some half attempt at fixing the chime. Thank you so much! Im getting that book!
thank you once again for a first class tutorial on aspects of Ansonia style clocks. I have been at my wits end trying to buy replacement springs and thanks to time4clocks who pointed me once again to your videos. You have started my experience of making the new springs myself for my Ansonia style, very old trains, for the striking clock.
Thank you for this video.... I recently redid an old Seth Thomas weight driven movement as my first clock.... and there was a ridiculous spring on the count lever, I figured it wasn't supposed to be there, but of course it won't strike right without it. The one that was on it though was an old extension spring from something, no way it was original, so this will help me figure out a good way to do it, thank you.
Doing an Waturbury Ogee as my first clock. Got it re-bushed, cleaned, and reassembled. Went to put the strike spring into tension on the post and the original brass spring wire snapped off! 🥺 Now I've got to order the wire to make a new spring. Thanks for the video!
I need to find some brass spring wire .072" diameter to replace 61 pallet springs in a reed organ, Malin Co's web site doesnt even seem to show they have brass wire any more, I havent been able to find the wire. I'm assuming this spring wire needs to be half-hard? from the descriptions on it, it seems hard will be too stiff, I have to make a one loop coil at one end of each 6" long wire, a slight bend at the other end, and a curvature across it's length.
AH! I will just chuck up some brass round stock in my mainspring winder. Thanks!
Thanks for sharing. Great idea. I've started watching your uploads and just want to say thanks for taking the time to make them.
Thanks for the spring tips! The hammer spring on an Ansonia clock I am working on just broke, and I expect to use your advice to wind a new spring for it.
Came across your video/tutorial and it was most helpful! Thank you!!!!
Very nice. I learned a lot from this video. You have a very neat shop. I dislike watching videos where a shop has so much clutter. You just wonder about a guy like that. Is his mind that disorderly as well?
Thanks for the video. I had used .016" brass spring wire on a New Haven time and strike clock, after a year of running fine it started to skip count on the hours & 1/2 hours. I will try .020" gauge with your method. I also found .032 was too strong for the hammer, and will try .025. I put in new mainsprings each .0165" strength, maybe that's why. Could the strike levers be blued and hardened with a torch? Or are they too soft a steel to blue & should I avoid trying to stiffen the levers? I found that the smaller gauge (.016 levers & .020 hammer as well as .014" M/S's) seem to work on the smaller Ansonia movements. Conover's manuals are the best!
How do you adjust the final tension?
Fantastic demo;sliding the spring into the proper place is awesome.Can a broken spring of striking wall clock(Seth Thomas) be
welded?will it withstand the tension?
Thankyou for taking time to make this vidio.If the spring is missing how do you know what strength wire to use?
For what it's worth, my current Ansonia clock uses two different diameters of wire for its brass springs. I measured the diameter of the hammer spring at 0.52 mm, which is likely 24 gauge wire, such as timesavers.com/i-8946642-brass-spring-wire-24-gauge.html; meanwhile, I measured the lever spring - a weaker spring - for this clock at 0.40 mm, which is likely 26 gauge wire, such as timesavers.com/i-8946643-brass-spring-wire-26-gauge.html.
I imagine that if you put too strong a spring on the hammer, the clock could stop because the spring put too much load on the strike train.If the spring is totally missing, I'd recommend asking your question on NAWCC.org message boards, which I've found to be a gold mine of useful help.
Great video....this is a job I need to do....thanks so much for posting...!
Good vid. Do you know where to get larger dia. brass spring wire? 22 gage is the largest i find, but an old cuckoo from 1860 needs spring wire at least 16 gage or larger. Maybe 12 gage.
No I do not. I am assuming that you need it for the hammer return springs, possible to use a steel wire with a brass finish. When you search try using the name "memory wire"
thanks
great video. thank you. i just put together my 1874 Waterbury mantel clock works after replacing about 1/2 dozen bushing. this is my 1st clock repair. all works now were it didn't before. only problem i'm having is on the alarming side where my alarming runs constant without stopping until the MS unwinds down. thoughts anyone?
Most likely it is not catching the locking pin when the locking lever drops into its slot, though it depends on what type of set-up you have. I would refer you to Tascione clock repair course's.
Here is a link to one of his animated videos clips.
learntimeonline.com/best-clock-repair-videos/count-wheel-strike-animation/
that may help, his courses on clock repair are very good, maybe worth looking into them. Thanks for the question, William
Looking for the patent and/or designs for the 1874 Waterbury movement if anybody has them, also a good supplier for parts
I recently had a similar problem with an Ansonia clock I'm working on: the clock would occasionally - and only occasionally - skip the first stop (deep gap in the count wheel) when striking. For that clock, I found I needed to adjust the position of two different gears in the strike train.
John Furcean mentions the position of the warning wheel (the wheel with pins that stop the striking) in his Ansonia reassembly video, ruclips.net/video/UXfww79qi3M/видео.html.
Steven Conover's excellent book goes into more detail about the alignment of gears and levers. His book is available at timesavers.com/i-8944875-striking-clock-repair-guide-by-steven-conover.html.
Awesome video, that was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you.
Thank you David, glad it has helped.
It's kind of funny and ironic. I need to make a replacement spring for a waterbury clock.
Thankyou for that info.
How do I determine which direction (over or under) I wind the spring wire onto the arbor?
Jean, thanks for the comment...It all depends on your needs...you can wind up a spring 4 different ways depending on how it will mount to the arbor and the direction of force you want. Have a great day.
Do they sell these spring wire makers?
I mean the main spring of Seth Thomas.
No, I would not....last thing you want is for it to break again...much easier to buy a new mainspring.