Awesome post-tonal, dissonant, and accessible harmonic language. Movement one is lyrical, beautiful; the last one is energetic; loved it! Thanks Nini Hampo for another great Symphony!
If we're going to number Tveitt's symphonies, isn't this going to be number 3 (after Prillar (no. 1, 1938) and Solgud (no. 2, 1958 but started and finished before this)?
To be absolutely sure I would have to look things up, but I am fairly sure that neither Prillar nor the "Sun God Symphony" were conceived as symphonies and named as such by Tveitt himself. What has been recorded as a "Sun God Symphony" was just named "Three Pieces from Baldur's Dreams" by Tveitt himself, and I think that even the original order of the movements was different (the slow one coming last, following the course of the action). My guess is that for the BIS recording, the title "Sun God Symphony" was chosen because the symphony is of course a very popular genre. I do like the work a lot, but I think Tveitt was right with not calling it a symphony - it is a sequence of three scenes, a suite in fact, but not a symphony. By contrast, I think that the number 1 for the "Jolakveld" symphony is due to Tveitt himself, as indeed that's the first work which he explicitly wrote as belonging to the symphony genre.
I didn't like the first title here - "Christmas Eve". The work has nothing to do with christianity. The correct norwegian title is "Jolakveld". In the presentation below, however, you are using "Yule Eve" which is the more correct.
Great musical talent and a gift for philosophy and ideas seem to be two separate kinds of intelligence. To be fair to Tveitt all institutions grow senile and turn into travesties; he was against one tyrannical institution in its rural degenerate phase he probably found a daily odium. Hopefully his music will survive. Some o f us benefit by nobody knowing their opinions.
+Nini Hampo Did you read Per Michaelsen's comment? You HAVE to change the title of this music. Geirr Tveitt did not have any religious or Christian interest, but about Yule Eve ( a Pagan celebration, related with Norway's mythology), yes. So please honour him and change the title into the original one.
Found in wikipedia: One of the most delicate and controversial areas of Tveitt's biography is his affiliation with the so-called Neo-Heathenistic movement, which centered around the Norwegian philosopher Hans S. Jacobsen (1901-1980) in the 1930s in Oslo. This is a topic that frequently returns in Norwegian public debate. Jacobsen's main thesis, inspired by the theories of the German theologist Jakob Wilhelm Hauer, was the total refutation of Christianity in favour of a new heathen system based upon Norse mythology and the Edda poetry. The movement rejected Christianity and sought to re-introduce the Norse pre-Christian system of belief - the adoration of Odin, Thor and Balder.
+Dennis Siebert Tveitt's Symphony No.1 subtitled "Christmas" (or "Christmas Eve") has the opus number 183, and is a different work to the Sun God Symphony, which is Op. 81 - three pieces from his "Baldurs Dreams". The Sun God Symphony is also on RUclips.
@@symphonious_rex And then there's Prillar, Op. 8, which is also a symphony (structurally more so than Solgud, I'd say) - to make things particularly confusing. By that reckoning, this is symphony no. 3.
Unique style - nothing to do with Swedish composers or Sibelius. Maybe he used folklore themes like Grieg but "metamorphosing" them ? An interesting "case"...
He was a Norwegian purist, and as such regarded Nature as the Supreme, and thus enveloped his very musically educated voice within what he considered the primal modes of that which might relate as far back in time as the Norse gods. He also very much embraced Hardanger folk culture, whose transcendent sound is very much based on those ancient modes.
A polytonal romanticist who dreadfully missed his calling in that he could have become wealthy and fervently sought after. Hollywood. But he was a nature purist, he might not have gotten along all that well there. But his music surely would have!
A few seconds of the opening solo 'cello's vibrato was the instant turn-off to stop the player before nausea could set in more fully.... less than two seconds, actually.
I take it you're a fan of period instruments and have gotten so accustomed to the lack of vibrato it bothers you when it's used . It was just the opposite with me. When I first got to hear so-called HIP performances , the lack of string vibrato seemed to me like the musical equivalent of flat champagne . I still like string vibrato .
There's a balance to be struck here. Sting vibrato is nice, but also overused. EDIT: I should note that orchestral vibrato is much less annoying than solo vibrato, because it's less obvious. There's something in solo vibrato which just kind of gets in the way of the pitch (it's much worse in voices, tbh), but with large groups of string instruments it sounds rather nice - or at least not any worse.
The composer's self-built home was destroyed in a fire in 1970 - taking most of his folk-music collections and manuscript music with it (the bulk of 300 original works and reams of notated folk music unavailable except through Tveitt's transcriptions). Tveitt was also controversially associated with a pagan philosophy that had its origins in 1930's Germany - which was to replace Christianity with old Norse religion. He was anti-Semitic, and after Norway's occupation by Nazi Germany, the Norwegian government stripped Tveitt of his state pension due to his association with the puppet regime controlled by the Nazis. It was later reinstated in the late 1950's, but the cloud over these issues remains.
I've been listening to a lot of Tveitt's music. Clearly, he was an excellent composer!
Awesome post-tonal, dissonant, and accessible harmonic language. Movement one is lyrical, beautiful; the last one is energetic; loved it! Thanks Nini Hampo for another great Symphony!
C'est un de mes compositeurs préférés depuis quelques années.
Wonderful!
Muy hermosa y nostalgica. Gracias.
Thank you for uploading so much interesting stuff!!!!
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If we're going to number Tveitt's symphonies, isn't this going to be number 3 (after Prillar (no. 1, 1938) and Solgud (no. 2, 1958 but started and finished before this)?
To be absolutely sure I would have to look things up, but I am fairly sure that neither Prillar nor the "Sun God Symphony" were conceived as symphonies and named as such by Tveitt himself. What has been recorded as a "Sun God Symphony" was just named "Three Pieces from Baldur's Dreams" by Tveitt himself, and I think that even the original order of the movements was different (the slow one coming last, following the course of the action). My guess is that for the BIS recording, the title "Sun God Symphony" was chosen because the symphony is of course a very popular genre. I do like the work a lot, but I think Tveitt was right with not calling it a symphony - it is a sequence of three scenes, a suite in fact, but not a symphony. By contrast, I think that the number 1 for the "Jolakveld" symphony is due to Tveitt himself, as indeed that's the first work which he explicitly wrote as belonging to the symphony genre.
Lovely!!
youre damn awesome
One runs into trouble separating thought and art in Tveitt's case; but why bother, his music is complete anyway.
thank you!!!
This is great. Is there any way I can get a good quality recording of this? I've been waiting for some new Tveitt material for a long time.
Craig Vogel go see Geirr Tveitt on FB
I didn't like the first title here - "Christmas Eve". The work has nothing to do with christianity. The correct norwegian title is "Jolakveld". In the presentation below, however, you are using "Yule Eve" which is the more correct.
Great musical talent and a gift for philosophy and ideas seem to be two separate kinds of intelligence. To be fair to Tveitt all institutions grow senile and turn into travesties; he was against one tyrannical institution in its rural degenerate phase he probably found a daily odium. Hopefully his music will survive. Some o f us benefit by nobody knowing their opinions.
+Nini Hampo Did you read Per Michaelsen's comment? You HAVE to change the title of this music. Geirr Tveitt did not have any religious or Christian interest, but about Yule Eve ( a Pagan celebration, related with Norway's mythology), yes. So please honour him and change the title into the original one.
I thought I'd changed that, but thanks for the reminder. "Yule Eve" it is.
@@symphonious_rex Thank you very much! It is in the Yule Eve playlist. :))
Found in wikipedia:
One of the most delicate and controversial areas of Tveitt's biography is his affiliation with the so-called Neo-Heathenistic movement, which centered around the Norwegian philosopher Hans S. Jacobsen (1901-1980) in the 1930s in Oslo. This is a topic that frequently returns in Norwegian public debate. Jacobsen's main thesis, inspired by the theories of the German theologist Jakob Wilhelm Hauer, was the total refutation of Christianity in favour of a new heathen system based upon Norse mythology and the Edda poetry. The movement rejected Christianity and sought to re-introduce the Norse pre-Christian system of belief - the adoration of Odin, Thor and Balder.
I thought Tveitt's Symphony No. 1 was Op. 81, entitled "Sun God." But enjoyed this, whatever the number.
+Dennis Siebert Tveitt's Symphony No.1 subtitled "Christmas" (or "Christmas Eve") has the opus number 183, and is a different work to the Sun God Symphony, which is Op. 81 - three pieces from his "Baldurs Dreams". The Sun God Symphony is also on RUclips.
@@symphonious_rex And then there's Prillar, Op. 8, which is also a symphony (structurally more so than Solgud, I'd say) - to make things particularly confusing. By that reckoning, this is symphony no. 3.
Unique style - nothing to do with Swedish composers or Sibelius. Maybe he used folklore themes like Grieg but "metamorphosing" them ? An interesting "case"...
He was a Norwegian purist, and as such regarded Nature as the Supreme, and thus enveloped his very musically educated voice within what he considered the primal modes of that which might relate as far back in time as the Norse gods. He also very much embraced Hardanger folk culture, whose transcendent sound is very much based on those ancient modes.
I LOVE THIS!!! Is there any recordings available on CD?
A lot of music by Tveitt is on CD, but not so for symphony no. 1 "Yule eve".
A polytonal romanticist who dreadfully missed his calling in that he could have become wealthy and fervently sought after. Hollywood. But he was a nature purist, he might not have gotten along all that well there. But his music surely would have!
Does anybody know the name of the painting?
I don't know,but "The Terrible Solitude Of The World's Only Black Polar Bear" strikes me as a possibility.
A few seconds of the opening solo 'cello's vibrato was the instant turn-off to stop the player before nausea could set in more fully.... less than two seconds, actually.
MuseDuCafe You missed out.
+MrSottobanco I missed out on Über-vibrato induced seasickness and consequent vomiting, yeah.
I take it you're a fan of period instruments and have gotten so accustomed to the lack of vibrato it bothers you when it's used . It was just the opposite with me. When I first got to hear so-called HIP performances , the lack of string vibrato seemed to me like the musical equivalent of flat champagne . I still like string vibrato .
There's a balance to be struck here. Sting vibrato is nice, but also overused.
EDIT: I should note that orchestral vibrato is much less annoying than solo vibrato, because it's less obvious. There's something in solo vibrato which just kind of gets in the way of the pitch (it's much worse in voices, tbh), but with large groups of string instruments it sounds rather nice - or at least not any worse.
Snob and a fool.
The composer's self-built home was destroyed in a fire in 1970 - taking
most of his folk-music collections and manuscript music with it (the
bulk of 300 original works and reams of notated folk music unavailable
except through Tveitt's transcriptions). Tveitt was also
controversially associated with a pagan philosophy that had its origins
in 1930's Germany - which was to replace Christianity with old Norse
religion. He was anti-Semitic, and after Norway's occupation by Nazi
Germany, the Norwegian government stripped Tveitt of his state pension
due to his association with the puppet regime controlled by the Nazis.
It was later reinstated in the late 1950's, but the cloud over these
issues remains.