These explanations were really great. 1 thing though: It feels like you should have had the Complimentary (2 colors), before moving on with Triadic and Split Complimentary (3 colors) etc... you know... increasing the amount of colors step by step.
@@PerfectionHunter The biggest confusion with colour harmony is in order what is mono chromatic and what is the difference between Triatic and Split Complimentary thus it is is structured this way
Yes, me too, I have also have years of experience in art school and I just sat down and thought about it and then it turns out it was just two simple things to understand colour harmony. So I am very glad we managed to put it across, simply and cohesively - Sunny I am really glad that it came across clear and simple! And I don't know we have to search for some comments... - Cal
Been painting minis for about 26 years, been a tattooist for 15 years, know a fair but about colour theory, and this video was one of the most succinct I’ve ever seen. Definitely helped me out, cheers guys!
I am really glad that, came across we put a lot of work into this one and in-depth colour psychology tried to make them very on point glad to hear this feedback
I think one of the things that makes your videos so great is how applicable they are. As soon as you brought up 60, 30, 10, I started breaking down my own models colors and wondering at alternatives using the harmonies you guys suggested. It even helps a ton with settling on a color for my energy effect, even though they're the most rare effect found in my list.
This is an amazingly well-articulated video. I've been studying art most of my life (Off and On; anyhow) and this has got to be the most concise explanation of color theory I've seen. (Or at least a tangential part of it). This is incredibly well done.
Thank you so much! We try very hard to be precise and to the point and to hear comments like this helps us know we were on the right track to helping people understand the topics they struggle with ~Sunny
dispite being mainly focused to people in the miniature painting hobby this video should legitimately be shown in schools. everything i learned in college about color theory was taught beautifully in this one video
We actually have had school teachers say the same thing to us so we have been considering re-releasing this with redone audio for kids as RUclips is split into two categories for kids and not for kids So your not alone in your thinking
This is one of the best "painting" videos I've seen and it helped me so much! I was losing my mind for months trying to put together a color scheme that was coherent.
Gald to hear it, for our sake was there anything that was confusing that was made understandable so we can try and focus in that and understand how we help?
@WhatareyouPaintingnow it's hard for me to say exactly. I have seen one or two other color theory videos before, but I just found the way you illustrated the different styles on the color wheel and with the linear palettes (along with examples of minis) very clear and easy to understand. You also showed some video mixing paints on a pallette, but I feel like that is largely what I've seen other painters do, and for whatever reason it didn't stick for me. But then, other painters have used the color wheels as well. Perhaps it was just the depth. I hadn't seen some of these variations before, I don't think, and it was helpful to see something beyond the basics, which may seem ironic given that I'm a total beginner, but anything else I've encountered has felt so simplistic that it didn't really answer my questions. I'm not sure if that's helpful, but that's the best I can do late at night. 😊 At any rate, thank you again for the video. I have subscribed to your channel, and I hope to learn more from you.
@@ryanlopezdevinaspre Thank You very much Ryan! I totally understand what you are saying when it comes to some colour theory videos. I think for me, the most important information that I thought some of these videos leave out was the order of colours bit, which is usually the main info that helps someone put together a pleasing pallete because you can have all the right colours and they still wont make sense unless you order them correctly on a piece when you blend them. I hope that part was useful ~Sunny
Our pleasure! We actually re did this video with better audio and a few extra tid bits if you are interested ruclips.net/video/cR6nGvs9RPY/видео.html Thanks for the supportive comment - Cal
Thank you very much the educational ones take a lot of effort we plan to do practical colour psychology next week but then we are going to try and do some lighter videos to get ahead and try and understand where we should go Thank you again for the comment
Probably the most digestible video I've seen on the this topic. (At least in the mini-painting circle!) Clicked for me at the split complementary section!
What was that you think really made it digestible? We are always looking to improve and we try really hard to respect peoples time, we would love to hear what you think
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow Oh shoot, you put me on the spot! I can't speak for others but I personally found the commitment peoples time *exactly* what worked. I often learn best from clear, concisive teaching (Vince Venturella and Kujo Painting come to mind!) and this honestly feels like a 101 intro course. The back and forth banter also feels similar to Midwinter Minis! Makes it easy to follow along. If I were to give any advice you don't already know, it would be in the sound dept! I'm not sure what your studio setup is but some padding for that echo and a mic filter will go a long way. On an extreme budget, thick comforters, towels, rugs and even jackets hung up near the walls or laid on the floor do wonders! Also, audio balancing/mixing! I feel like Sonny's vol could be lowered by 5-10% Hopefully that was helpful and glad I found the channel!
@@bryal7811 So we don't currently have a dedicated recording area... so we are under a tin roof as you can imagine that isn't that helpful... As for Sunny currently we are applying limiters because how we record is right next to one another with a single mic. And with Sunny I have to pick one of two ways a roar or a whisper so I choose roar. I think the mics pretty good quality a blue yeti... But you not the first person to say about the audio that's why we are applying limiters, audio is my department, we have really worked on getting a quiet area so we record at close to midnight now, we are in a semi rural area, and don't live far from a highway and recently the council cut down a whole lot of trees so the road noise now reaches our house and it never used to... So I am trying I promise... But I can do better and I will try, we will try and make a dedicated area but as it stands budget wise we are pretty skinflint I am honoured to be put next to Vince he is an absolute master but he doesn't really care as much about presentation ha ha ha And being compared to MidWinter Minis is a good sign for our growth ha ha That comment was super helpful and I can't promise in the next one because we have already been recording it but hopefully in the near future we will set up a studio if things keep going well... hopefully... Thank you so much for you time
We are really glad to hear it helped you. Can you tell us what was different about this compared to the other videos where you found it difficult? We always strive to make better videos so we are trying to understand what's good about our videos as well as where we can improve
Great video that everybody should watch! :) Just a kind and friendly critique, but I think the mic is being... I forgot the term again, let's just say "overloaded". I recommend putting it a bit further away or keeping an eye on the "levels", so that it doesn't spike above 0db. If not, you will get cutoffs like in your "bye bye!" at the end. Thank you! liked and subbed!
Thanks we have really been working on our audio since these ones, so often Sunny comes in too soft and I have to have the gains up but we are turning the gains down and we are levelling all of our audio and noise gating we are defiantly working on it and your not wrong but we are working on it. Glad you enjoyed this one this is actually a part of a series if you liked this here are the two companion pieces In-Depth Colour Psychology Your Army and You ruclips.net/video/oYHhGFKP-dQ/видео.html Practical Application of Colour Psychology and Theory ruclips.net/video/0qipCbRmTO4/видео.html
You've won my subscription! Wonderful video. I'm trying to learn this subject. Oh, and I absolutely didn't expect to hear Malay word in colour theories. Put a smile on my face. 😊. I will have to paint 'senget' colour scheme from now on 😂
probs to you guys... I've already watched a few videos about color theory, but this finally connected my synampses and it clicked. Thank you, great post. Greetings from Munich and Merry Christmas
Who am I to judge the pronunciation of a foreign language xD German as a non-German probably sounds like I'm working on a brick with a cheese slicer. Your content is great and pronounce the words however you want =D unfortunately my content is only in German, so you won't be able to do much with it =/@@WhatareyouPaintingnow
@@MoOs.Corner Well one of my very good friends is German, actually very long story but he was one of the reasons Sunny wanted to stay here in Australia!
Thank you very much we are thinking of remastering the audio and then doing it up as a "For kids" so literally pretty much the same but literally anyone and kids could access it. Some others have suggested what do you think?
Black and white may not count as colors for scheme purposes, but what's behind using them as a dominant color, such as with White Scars and The Black Legion?
Usually, you want to get across a certain theme instantly, White Scars are meant to be pure with how they are, Black Legion tainted but this is much more a topic for the previous video ruclips.net/video/oYHhGFKP-dQ/видео.html In-depth colour psychology I hope that answers the question?
Glad you think so! We did an update ruclips.net/video/cR6nGvs9RPY/видео.html with better audio and slightly (very slightly) more information if you are interested. But the audio is ALOT better! - Cal
As you did a great job breaking down fundamentals, I looked for those first, specifically Indpeth color psychology and practical application. I would put theses as the cards at the end of this video. Additionally, I did find that I wanted some more practical applied examples of some of the concepts. Particularly the idea of using saturation in a color harmony, I feel like this video got me 80% of the way to understanding it, but grounding it in a " this was the thought process of why we chose X colors for this model and why we made these ones saturated" As a second note, your strength seems to be taking intermediate concepts by which I mean more complex systems and breaking them down in a really clear way. I am unsure on the viablity (as there are more beginners than experts) but I do know that most mini painting channels aim to appeal to beginners more than advanced users. I think there is a market gap here. Where you can take known and true principles display 2nd or 3rd depth understanding of it, from traditional art, and apply them to mini painting. I say this as ive seen many a mini channel do a color theory video but it almost only ever covers Mono / Complementary/ Tertiary / sometimes Quad and usually ends at that The new thumbnail direction is great, as im sure the numbers back up! It fits the professional "pro artist" vibes that yall give off and stands out well from the other thumbnails on youtube (at least on my feed). I am down to talk more about all of this if you wish! And as always, i jsut have an opinon feel free to ingore it! -Katia @@WhatareyouPaintingnow
I absolutely loved it. Certainly something I was looking for to help me pick schemes. Informative and educational. Yet Istill watched it again in the spirit of "ok, one more time, but slower" ;P
ha ha well our number one thing is TRY and respect people's time, we really try to make it so there is no stuffing about, just all content, no so you know the thing is, we even try cut breaths in the audio. So I am glad that someone saw that and went one more time but slower
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow I really appreciate all that work you do. I am having a great time enjoying your content. I extra-appreciate the "put yourself in someone else's shoes" approach for us newbies, with your voice-of-the-novice inserts, so to speak.
@@DorianSoboltynski Or I might just feel like a novice next to Sunny ha ha but yeah I knew some people might feel that way because I already started to But it is feedback like this that helps make our videos better, knowing what works because few people comment (statistically) and fewer follow up
You do great thing here, explaining the color theory in such a short time. Probably will need few more times to view this to fully understand and memorize, though :)
I really like the green, orange, blue space marine on the intro. It gives me a mandolorian vibe a bit. I'd love to see a little more breakdown on something like this specifically. I am trying to get up the nerve to paint an army more colorful like that, after seeing the chick in the ashoka show who has a blue green orange purple red armor. I feel it's the way the saturation and hue is done to play with the colors is what makes it so appealing.
I don't know about the TV show we aren't using any streaming services 😊 but we are doing a break down on practical application of colour theory in the next video
@@_lewtz yeah we are going to be doing a break down of why Ultramarines seem like good guys and then Red, White and blue having each as the major colours because that is every countries flag ever so, sorry we won't be doing that one
Thank you very much can you tell us what makes it the best? We want to make more videos people love and people, seem to love this one so we want to know what we do right as much what we need to work on
I had that same feeling at one point time... -Sunny I am sorry, we only finished it this week, we are pretty tired we will keep working making great stuff you and others - Cal
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow oh not trying to put preasure on you. it was a really great and informative video! the last few years i had learn so much about painting from youtubers i wish i knew when i startet my warhammer 40k armies
@@LordOfBalIs No pressure at all comments like this, and engaging with people keep us motivated, we are people persons. We love engaging and chatting, and comment like this is light and fun to engage with ☺
I used to use 4 colored harmony without knowing it, and then realized it didn't work for my marines (blood ravens chapter, red main, cream secondary, green for lenses, blue for lenses, plasma and power weapons). The thing is, i used blue color only for some details, but it still took away from the cohesiveness of the overall color scheme. When all 4 colors sre present, it gives a cartoony vibe. So I switched to a more strict color harmony, and played around with saturations to achieve the best contrast (darker red, paler cream, green for visors and lenses, no blue on regular models - yellow instead). I still use blue, but much colder shade and very sparingly - only for exotic materials (plasma and power weapons, pale blue). Even though I still ended up with same four colors, they give a completely different feel. Blue doesn't make them cartoonish, it kind of supposed to break the rules of color harmony due to energy weapons being exotic and foreign to the rest of their equipment. And I painted orks with more strict 3 colored harmony - and they looked kind of meh. Now I get it from this video - 4 color harmony would be more complementary for their esthetic and theme. When I painted Alpha Legion, it seems that I've finally learned my lesson - I used greenish blue anf crimson red (with some desaturated green, but only for stuff like wires - I decided to paint their logos with white). Green is kind of close to green-ish blue to create much contrast, but it makes sense for Chaos dudes to sort of lack the harmony. So overall, I think, that works good for the feel the army makes.
Actually 😛 we have just finished re-recording this video with better audio and additional information with almost the same runtime just yesterday So please stay on for that ☺️ - Cal
Jesus fkn christ. This video rocks!!! I am blasted by your skill to explain this topic in such a inderstandaböe and easy way. Was a pleasure to watch. Did you teach or smth? Its real good.
It's worth mentioning that our perceptions of color are relative. Tricking the eye's perception is almost more important than the actual thing being seen. That also means the exact colors chosen are not as particularly exacting at a chart would imply. *Another tip, consider how you subdue/diminish or emphasize/pop transitions (contrast). Desaturating (light or dark) will lessen the color and therefore lessen the transition. Super saturating will emphasize it. So will contrasting with 'contrast' (light vs dark)* It's been a long time since I took a color theory class, so it was good to get a refresher on the more complicated harmonies. I like models with lots of objects and details, so a double-split or square will be nice to try. I can remember doing an exercise with color value and a grid of intentionally varied colors. The teacher was convinced I made a mistake in an area and going to lower my grade. I had used several colors that tricked the eye by relative temperature. I had done it intentionally, just to play with the effect. I successfully defended my grade when I pulled out my phone and put the camera into black and white mode, proving that my color value was correct, but that i had tricked her eye into perceiving it wrong. Got an A+ instead of a B+.
The issue for us is time, that's why we made that joke at the start about how the colour wheel should look, because when it comes to giving instructions "Absolute Clarity" does not help understand as general rule we have found
Really glad to have helped I hope you something out of our other videos may I recommend ruclips.net/video/oYHhGFKP-dQ/видео.html In-Depth Colour Psychology Your Army and You This is the companion piece to that and then the final part is practical colour psychology application
You are so welcome! We did an update with better audio and few extra bits of information ruclips.net/video/cR6nGvs9RPY/видео.html Thanks for your support - Cal
To be honest it all depends on reception, if these videos (the series In-Depth colour psychogy, understanding colour armies colour harmony and this video), if they do really well we are more likely to do more. If you want to help share them that is the biggest thing that beats the algorithm. What is that you liked about this video in particular?
Really glad you enjoyed if you like that I suggest checking out these two which are its companion pieces In-Depth Colour Psychology Your Army and You ruclips.net/video/oYHhGFKP-dQ/видео.html Practical Application of Colour Psychology and Theory ruclips.net/video/0qipCbRmTO4/видео.html
Very nice video indeed. How much black could be too much black? As a Blood Angel painter, how much black (percentage-wise) is acceptable? An in the case of a Black Armor miniature where black is the predominant color, how would you balance colors in that case?
So like that all-black model at the start you can have an all-black model if you have great highlighting. But I believe that you are making death company if you're talking about black and blood angels. So I would just follow the chapters iconography, but if you want to go beyond that, I think a red helmet would look great
I don’t get the brown Color in tree lord example. What % it should be?Is it accent color or secondary?Space marines usually have some leather parts too, like pouches.
Sunny is currently sleeping and she is the art technical person more than me I will show her this comment when she gets up. But just remember some people completely ignore colour harmonies and that's okay, but it does make it harder when explaining. I hope that helps for now
For the tree lord the dominate colour is the brown colour but think of it in those terms instead of percentages and you will find easier to break them down. In the case of the tree lord, brown is the dominate, and blue, green and red orange are used as accents As for the space marines, the leather pouches are usually small accessories, that would fall under accent. I hope the explanation helps -Sunny
One more question: In 9:00, what are the percentages of each color? I Think blue is 55%, red 25%, and yellow and purple 10+10%, it isn't? Wich are the toned down colours? Can you select the principal toned down orange about 60% and the secondary toned down red or Green as you want?
Don't focus on the percentages, that is more a guide. but rather the question should be which colour do I want to make my focus for the mood I am trying to set? once you have that decided it's easy to minimise or enlarge the percentages of the other colours around it. But when you are using more colours in a colour scheme the colours will start to fight each other and it becomes hard to bring focus to the areas you want. So it is also important to desaturate all other colours that you don't want to bring focus to so that your dominant colour pops. I hope that helps ~Sunny
Very good video. I wanted to point out though, that some people get too stiff about stuff like that and are unable to get out of the scheme because "rules says so". I have a friend, who picks literally a triad of colors and tracks % of model coverage, even it it obviously do not fit the theme and atmosphere of the model or what the model actually shows. Half naked barbarian dressed in leathers? Oh yeah, lets paint his leather and boots blue, and his more decorative parts in green. Evil chaos cultists using mostly red color? Obviously, they need to look like a spiderman, because they are in dire need of light blue everywhere. I think it's worth pointing out, because people can get stuck into taking those too literally and too unbendable.
So we do point out that certain things don't fit within a thing like the shades but the biggest problem with this is... We can't cover everything, we did try and point out that most things will fit under it even if people think they don't because colour harmony are just that harmonies. Harmonies work well together and there are lots of ways of making colours work. For us, we try REALLY, really hard to respect people's time. You may notice our videos go a mile a minute because we don't want to be the people where people scream get on with it. So, that means a lot of cutting. It is a good point, our focus was on getting people to watch and understand colour harmony rather than getting people unstuck from bad habits.
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow Hey, thanks for an answer - as I stated before, I really do like the video, it's well made, gives real examples instead of a dry theory and I don't think there is anything missing from it. I wanted to leave the comment about bad habits for people to bump into if they scroll through comments.
I was really happy, that Ultramarines were used as an example for a triad scheme - they are so easily forgotten ^^''. But actually an even better example would have been a 2nd edition Ultramarine. When you go look at it (a short search will get you covered ;) ) the Ultras had a lighter blue hue (real Ultramarine), the shoulder pads had a real light yellow trim (it was changed to golden in the 3rd or 4th edition) and a blood red weapon (which, again, was changed to black in the aforementioned editions). A great (though traditional) triadic color scheme.
Glad it was helpful! We have an updated version with better audio and we believe we go over more if you want that to share with other - Cal ruclips.net/video/cR6nGvs9RPY/видео.html
Do you all have an wisdom related to using multiple harmonies at once? IE: Analogous colors for your highlights, and split complimentary for your shading? Furthering the example: Using Green for my base color, I would highlight the warm side with chartreuse, and the cold side with a slightly blue-er green. Shadows on the warm side would be magenta, while the cold side would be something like indigo.
Using analogous is a great way to shade your models because you already have your shadow midtone and highlights selected so using turquoise/teal for the shadows and chartreuse for highlights is great but if you want to shadow the parts that are highlighted with a colour further away from that colour family it can be confusing where your environment is and how things are being lit. If you want to have different colour families for shadows and highlights you could use indigo to shadow (because it's close to blue) your midtone green and yellow for the highlights (because it's next to green on the wheel) ~Sunny
interesting video, been thinking on a paint scheme for some minis from Conquest but the removal of mould lines is, for whatever reason, really sucking out all motivation out of me this time, now the boxes are just sitting, untouched, because i cannot bring myself to slog through yet more mould lines, anyone got any trick to making the process faster? also yes this comment is just me venting my frustration, really want to paint but also really dont want to remove yet more mould lines
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow a hobby knife + a random assortment of other sharp objects for when a mould line is in a spot the blade cant fully clean without damaging the plastic
@@Error-mn4el My first suggestion would be like checking if their is fuel in the mower. Change your blade see if having a better blade just makes the experience less miserable but my second would be we actually have a video on this called Some something pile of shame ruclips.net/video/EuZvwAqPC2o/видео.html It basically has all the very basic but correct psychological tips to keep you on with big projects its what we used to build over a thousands Dungeons and Lazers tiles so we aren't just talking out our behinds I hope this helps
@ Well when we put it in adobe colour wheel it just says its a neutral grey it suggests the following These are colour numbers #262621 #595951 #0D0D0C #F2F2F2 #8C8C8C
I can see this wheel different from my CMYK wheel, for miniatures is better to use this wheel or the CMYK wheel colour? in my CMYK Red is the complementary of Red, and in your, Red is the complementary of Green.
was wondering as i am new to warhammer painting. I'm building and painting tyranids and was think of use Brown for the flesh (60), a shade of green for the scales (30) and either light blue or green for the accents (10). what color harmony would this fall under and would it work well?
Here is my advice from a long time miniature gamer and ok painter. 1. If you are really concerned paint a test model to see if you like it and show to others. 2. You are painting an army that will be viewed at a distance of 18 inches to 5 feet away. You want a few things in the model to stand out. Try not to get caught up in the details. Except spend some time in the heroes and bigger pieces 3. If you have a painted army … you are doing great! Many players do not 4. What you paint now will be great. Three years from now when your skill is better you will go ‘Ug, I should repaint these guys’. 5. Lastly you are the one who has to put the pieces in the table, take them off when they die and put them away in their case. In the end go with a scheme that makes you happy and gives you pleasure.
Nice vid, but your audio peaks/clips pretty hard. It's very harsh through headphones. Noticed it on other videos too. If you aren't already a compressor is an easy fix
So we are applying a limiter, I have listened through headphones and noticed some our background noises like the fridge in previous ones but I thought we were pretty good just apply a compression to the files? Is that what you are suggesting?
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow Not had to compress any audio myself in a long time but a custom compressor working on peaks/clipping. The into to the "What your Army's Colours say about You?" is a good example of what I mean. Not trying to be mean 😊😊
@@rankcolour8780 oh yeah so that was before we started applying limiters I think everything after that or everything after metallics we started using the limiters, how was this videos sound?
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow What's important is not even limiters. Limiting it at a level doesn't change the harsh frequencies, and you can hear obvious clipping. A compressor more dynamically limits the audio so it doesn't clip so harshly. Also, using an EQ to reduce harsh frequencies is important.
Great content, but I have a few constructive criticisms. 1) You need a better mic. You sound very tinny, which I assume is from the mic. 2) You stated that value is changed by added black or white. A more accurate statement would be that you desaturate by adding white and you devalue by adding black. This is important to color theory because you can restore saturation and value by adding back more base color. 3) For the 60/30/10 rule you touched on this, but didn't really explain it. For space marines the 60 navy blue is a devalued blue, so the 30 color should be desaturated to pair. The same goes for a desaturated 60 you would pair with a devalued 30. You could also do this with warm/cold colors but that might be a bit too complicated for this video. 4) For analogous color harmonies you should accent/compliment with grayscale. This isn't necessary, but it makes for pleasing color schemes and makes the colors pop more. Keep up the great work!
Its not the mic it is the background so we live in the middle of bumble-truck no-where watch our most recent episode and you will hear the difference. We upgraded our recording area Thank you for the feedback
@WhatareyouPaintingnow So we would bring the color towards the warm color of the group, for example if it was a triad of blue and I wanted to make a brighter tone of blue to use as light, I would bring it in the direction of the yellow, is this correct? Thank you for replying! Your videos are much easier to understand
@@PatrickTheArtist715 Glad the videos are helping, yellow was just an example but let's say you are doing a try colour with blue, that would be red, yellow and blue, blue is likely to be your darkest colour, you can vary things up but yeah generally that's how it goes - Cal
Browns are really difficult because they/should be treated closer to greys because they are a compound or composite colour. They contain every colour, the way you get a brown is by mixing different amounts of every colour or by mixing a primary with its opposite secondary, red with green, yellow with purple or blue with orange Sunny is the only with the art technical knowledge so I will show this comment to her but I think there is a reason we stayed away from other than using it as an example for analogous schemes I know a very long answer for a very short question but the answer is I don't know as much how to use it in colour harmonies - Cal
Cal is correct in the above comment about how to get Brown, But I think what will help you decide on how to use Brown in a scheme is to look at it more as "How to treat brown?" Brown can also be seen as a Dark Orange, Dark Red or Dark Purple so depending on the tone of Brown you can treat them as Orange, Red or Purple when designing a scheme with Brown I hope this clarifies things :) ~Sunny
I don't see any red in the tree model at all. Couldn't it just as easily be a split complementary scheme with orange as the dominant colour and blue and green as the secondary/accents?
I'm doing a tyranid scheme where I have purple and blue as the main colours. I want to have a contrasting base. Some colour wheels say yellow/orange would be the best complementary others say bright green. Now I'm confused, why do they tell me different things?
The best thing to do it bust out a colour wheel tool like adobe colour wheel and put your actual colours on there as a split complimentary and see what it suggests as your third - Cal
Do you mean to desaturate the colours? Preferably when working with any colour scheme doesn't matter if it's mono duo or more it's always good to have toned down colours to help make the dominant colour pop to bring focus to the areas you want people to focus on ~Sunny
As we pointed out colour schemes and colour harmonies are different, lots of colour schemes are colours harmonies but some colour schemes are just that. A colour scheme is a scheme to follow not always a harmony. Does that mean you can't paint howling griffins, no, of course you paint whatever you like. But, some colour schemes will have a lack of colour harmony
so i have a question, how do you find a colour that fits the rest of a model but for a different material? like one of the sisters of silence for example, if you painted them a yellowish/orange (gold) and purple what colour could you paint their fur capes? could you paint them purple or some other colour like that or no because of the material?
Thanks for the great tips! Really learned a bunch, although I must admit the literally finishing each other's sentences bit kinda creeps me out in a weird way.
It's like cooking these are rules to help you make things more cohesive and work for you. You can do different things outside of these but it just makes things more difficult - Cal
It would depend on what's paring it, these rules help make good combinations. So as we said it's often not as simple as red and green. If you could be more specific with your comment I may be able to help more - Cal
@WhatareyouPaintingnow I myself am also a member of this "Australia" operation, this message will now self destruct. There is some nuance, but some sentences are undistinguishable.
Hey, I'm really sorry, but you need to figure out audio. I tuned into this video and my ears nearly got blasted out. Any basic mic and some compression/EQ in the editor software will go a long way.
Dude you are right, watch any of our past videos from the past maybe three months and we have really improved a lot, there were a few issues, recording to loud, being in a Tin shack, this is on our list to re-record because its a very popular and good episode but seriously watch any of our more recent stuff and you will see we have it a lot more figured out, won't say its perfect but A LOT better
It's best to study colours through the traditional colour wheel, even though it is artificial in that we see in RGB, the principles are best applied through the traditional colour wheel
Nice, my brother and I used to go hard into Magic the Gathering, I was more a deck builder than anything else. But I built him one deck Eldrazi Ramp where he went 6-0 in FMNs 80+ FNMs undefeated it was amazing
F.Y.I the volume of this video is crazy high, yes I turned it down but the quality of your audio sounds pushed and spiky. Otherwise keep up the great work, the content was good.
For 20 years now I have not been able to invent a really MY unique scheme for the Tyranid army... With all other miniatures it’s easier: the goal is to break the feeling of “toy plastic/tin soldiers”. So I want to learn how to paint 50 shades of copper, brass and bronze, completely avoiding any grey metal. All other colors will be secondary to the copper shades.
Timestamps
0:34 The basics
1:31 Monochromatic
3:11 What is the difference between Triatic and Split Complimentary
3:52 The 60-30-10 rule
6:11 Split Complementary
7:07 Tetradic
9:24 Square
10:07 Analogous
11:10 Extended Analogous
12:08 Complimentary
12:43 Adjacent Complimentary
13:10 Shades
0:32 MY STORY BEGINS IN THE 12TH CENTURY
These explanations were really great.
1 thing though: It feels like you should have had the Complimentary (2 colors), before moving on with Triadic and Split Complimentary (3 colors) etc... you know... increasing the amount of colors step by step.
@@PerfectionHunter The biggest confusion with colour harmony is in order what is mono chromatic and what is the difference between Triatic and Split Complimentary thus it is is structured this way
Years of art schools and it’s a Warhammer painting video that explains colour theory to me, so clear and simple!
Yes, me too, I have also have years of experience in art school and I just sat down and thought about it and then it turns out it was just two simple things to understand colour harmony. So I am very glad we managed to put it across, simply and cohesively - Sunny
I am really glad that it came across clear and simple! And I don't know we have to search for some comments... - Cal
Dang this is amazing. First 5 minutes and I feel more educated. Thank you
You might need to get a refund
Dude for real, thank God for real teachers
Been painting minis for about 26 years, been a tattooist for 15 years, know a fair but about colour theory, and this video was one of the most succinct I’ve ever seen. Definitely helped me out, cheers guys!
I am really glad that, came across we put a lot of work into this one and in-depth colour psychology tried to make them very on point glad to hear this feedback
I think one of the things that makes your videos so great is how applicable they are. As soon as you brought up 60, 30, 10, I started breaking down my own models colors and wondering at alternatives using the harmonies you guys suggested. It even helps a ton with settling on a color for my energy effect, even though they're the most rare effect found in my list.
I am glad the 60-30-10 rule helped with your understanding. We try really hard to present concepts in an easy to understand way
A really underrated but highly important topic for painting. Thank you for the video
Glad you enjoyed I hope you will check out some of our previous videos ☺
This is an amazingly well-articulated video. I've been studying art most of my life (Off and On; anyhow) and this has got to be the most concise explanation of color theory I've seen. (Or at least a tangential part of it). This is incredibly well done.
Thank you so much! We try very hard to be precise and to the point and to hear comments like this helps us know we were on the right track to helping people understand the topics they struggle with ~Sunny
Loving this series. It will be my go to link to explain colour theory to anyone who asks. Outstanding work guys.
Thanks, we am really glad it is helpful! What makes it yo your new go-to?
dispite being mainly focused to people in the miniature painting hobby this video should legitimately be shown in schools. everything i learned in college about color theory was taught beautifully in this one video
We actually have had school teachers say the same thing to us so we have been considering re-releasing this with redone audio for kids as RUclips is split into two categories for kids and not for kids
So your not alone in your thinking
This is one of the best "painting" videos I've seen and it helped me so much! I was losing my mind for months trying to put together a color scheme that was coherent.
Glad it was helpful! Please check out reading colour if you found this one helpful - Cal
you got my sub when I heard the word "sangiat". love your vids, this is the best one so far.
Ha ha, where you from?
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow i am from Malaysia 🇲🇾 😁.
@@Dunker79 Oh cool I am Australian, Sunny is Singaporian but we have smatterings of other languages we use because of that.
@WhatareyouPaintingnow thats awesome. Love your videos!!!
Absolutely mesmerizing! You guys are brilliant in your ability to make something hard to understand, understandable
Gald to hear it, for our sake was there anything that was confusing that was made understandable so we can try and focus in that and understand how we help?
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow it would be helpful to touch more on the shades
@@roryhatfield6696 Cool we will put that on the list but I am sure that Sunny is just going to say to me it is the order of the colours ha ha ha
This was a VERY useful video for me, as a person with no trap understanding of color theory. Thank you!
We are really glad to hear it was helpful, for us what helped you understand?
@WhatareyouPaintingnow it's hard for me to say exactly. I have seen one or two other color theory videos before, but I just found the way you illustrated the different styles on the color wheel and with the linear palettes (along with examples of minis) very clear and easy to understand. You also showed some video mixing paints on a pallette, but I feel like that is largely what I've seen other painters do, and for whatever reason it didn't stick for me. But then, other painters have used the color wheels as well. Perhaps it was just the depth. I hadn't seen some of these variations before, I don't think, and it was helpful to see something beyond the basics, which may seem ironic given that I'm a total beginner, but anything else I've encountered has felt so simplistic that it didn't really answer my questions. I'm not sure if that's helpful, but that's the best I can do late at night. 😊 At any rate, thank you again for the video. I have subscribed to your channel, and I hope to learn more from you.
@@ryanlopezdevinaspre Thank You very much Ryan! I totally understand what you are saying when it comes to some colour theory videos. I think for me, the most important information that I thought some of these videos leave out was the order of colours bit, which is usually the main info that helps someone put together a pleasing pallete because you can have all the right colours and they still wont make sense unless you order them correctly on a piece when you blend them. I hope that part was useful ~Sunny
Great channel and video! Just got into mini painting the past couple months and the technical stuff you two cover is very helpful
Our pleasure! We actually re did this video with better audio and a few extra tid bits if you are interested
ruclips.net/video/cR6nGvs9RPY/видео.html
Thanks for the supportive comment - Cal
ya'll knock it out of the park with the past few vids
please keep up the great work
Thank you very much the educational ones take a lot of effort we plan to do practical colour psychology next week but then we are going to try and do some lighter videos to get ahead and try and understand where we should go
Thank you again for the comment
Probably the most digestible video I've seen on the this topic. (At least in the mini-painting circle!) Clicked for me at the split complementary section!
What was that you think really made it digestible? We are always looking to improve and we try really hard to respect peoples time, we would love to hear what you think
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow Oh shoot, you put me on the spot! I can't speak for others but I personally found the commitment peoples time *exactly* what worked. I often learn best from clear, concisive teaching (Vince Venturella and Kujo Painting come to mind!) and this honestly feels like a 101 intro course. The back and forth banter also feels similar to Midwinter Minis! Makes it easy to follow along.
If I were to give any advice you don't already know, it would be in the sound dept! I'm not sure what your studio setup is but some padding for that echo and a mic filter will go a long way. On an extreme budget, thick comforters, towels, rugs and even jackets hung up near the walls or laid on the floor do wonders! Also, audio balancing/mixing! I feel like Sonny's vol could be lowered by 5-10%
Hopefully that was helpful and glad I found the channel!
@@bryal7811 So we don't currently have a dedicated recording area... so we are under a tin roof as you can imagine that isn't that helpful...
As for Sunny currently we are applying limiters because how we record is right next to one another with a single mic. And with Sunny I have to pick one of two ways a roar or a whisper so I choose roar. I think the mics pretty good quality a blue yeti...
But you not the first person to say about the audio that's why we are applying limiters, audio is my department, we have really worked on getting a quiet area so we record at close to midnight now, we are in a semi rural area, and don't live far from a highway and recently the council cut down a whole lot of trees so the road noise now reaches our house and it never used to... So I am trying I promise... But I can do better and I will try, we will try and make a dedicated area but as it stands budget wise we are pretty skinflint
I am honoured to be put next to Vince he is an absolute master but he doesn't really care as much about presentation ha ha ha
And being compared to MidWinter Minis is a good sign for our growth ha ha
That comment was super helpful and I can't promise in the next one because we have already been recording it but hopefully in the near future we will set up a studio if things keep going well... hopefully...
Thank you so much for you time
Huge fan of this - I feel like I've seen so many colour theory videos and this one really helped explain it to me in a way I can understand. Thanks!!
We are really glad to hear it helped you. Can you tell us what was different about this compared to the other videos where you found it difficult? We always strive to make better videos so we are trying to understand what's good about our videos as well as where we can improve
Great video that everybody should watch! :)
Just a kind and friendly critique, but I think the mic is being... I forgot the term again, let's just say "overloaded".
I recommend putting it a bit further away or keeping an eye on the "levels", so that it doesn't spike above 0db.
If not, you will get cutoffs like in your "bye bye!" at the end.
Thank you! liked and subbed!
Thanks we have really been working on our audio since these ones, so often Sunny comes in too soft and I have to have the gains up but we are turning the gains down and we are levelling all of our audio and noise gating we are defiantly working on it and your not wrong but we are working on it.
Glad you enjoyed this one this is actually a part of a series if you liked this here are the two companion pieces
In-Depth Colour Psychology Your Army and You
ruclips.net/video/oYHhGFKP-dQ/видео.html
Practical Application of Colour Psychology and Theory
ruclips.net/video/0qipCbRmTO4/видео.html
You've won my subscription! Wonderful video. I'm trying to learn this subject.
Oh, and I absolutely didn't expect to hear Malay word in colour theories. Put a smile on my face. 😊. I will have to paint 'senget' colour scheme from now on 😂
I am really glad to hear you enjoyed it
probs to you guys... I've already watched a few videos about color theory, but this finally connected my synampses and it clicked. Thank you, great post. Greetings from Munich and Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas!
And more German watchers woo! Please don't be upset at our pronunciation of German words we are not even remotely native speakers!
Who am I to judge the pronunciation of a foreign language xD German as a non-German probably sounds like I'm working on a brick with a cheese slicer. Your content is great and pronounce the words however you want =D unfortunately my content is only in German, so you won't be able to do much with it =/@@WhatareyouPaintingnow
@@MoOs.Corner Well one of my very good friends is German, actually very long story but he was one of the reasons Sunny wanted to stay here in Australia!
This is a great video. Consice, clear examples, worth saving as a favorite. What a great review when needed as well. Enjoyable as well.
Thank you very much we are thinking of remastering the audio and then doing it up as a "For kids" so literally pretty much the same but literally anyone and kids could access it. Some others have suggested what do you think?
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow go for it! 👍😃
Guys you are legendary! I'm so glad that I've found you. 😍😁
Thanks so much for your kind words anything in particular you've been liking about our content so far? ~Sunny
Black and white may not count as colors for scheme purposes, but what's behind using them as a dominant color, such as with White Scars and The Black Legion?
Usually, you want to get across a certain theme instantly, White Scars are meant to be pure with how they are, Black Legion tainted but this is much more a topic for the previous video
ruclips.net/video/oYHhGFKP-dQ/видео.html
In-depth colour psychology
I hope that answers the question?
Don't forget the black templars
Most comprehensive video on color harmony ❤
Glad you think so! We did an update ruclips.net/video/cR6nGvs9RPY/видео.html with better audio and slightly (very slightly) more information if you are interested. But the audio is ALOT better! - Cal
Love your content, this is the best explanation of color theory I have found as a self taught artist
I am really gald to hear that! If you want to do us a favour and help us, sharing this is more powerful than anything in the algorithm
Dont worry, I have my own channel where I teach game dev! I know the drill, its been shared, liked, and subbed@@WhatareyouPaintingnow
And I have watched more of your videos!
@@goblin380 Thanks! Out of intrest which ones caught your eye?
As you did a great job breaking down fundamentals, I looked for those first, specifically Indpeth color psychology and practical application. I would put theses as the cards at the end of this video.
Additionally, I did find that I wanted some more practical applied examples of some of the concepts. Particularly the idea of using saturation in a color harmony, I feel like this video got me 80% of the way to understanding it, but grounding it in a " this was the thought process of why we chose X colors for this model and why we made these ones saturated"
As a second note, your strength seems to be taking intermediate concepts by which I mean more complex systems and breaking them down in a really clear way. I am unsure on the viablity (as there are more beginners than experts) but I do know that most mini painting channels aim to appeal to beginners more than advanced users. I think there is a market gap here. Where you can take known and true principles display 2nd or 3rd depth understanding of it, from traditional art, and apply them to mini painting.
I say this as ive seen many a mini channel do a color theory video but it almost only ever covers Mono / Complementary/ Tertiary / sometimes Quad and usually ends at that
The new thumbnail direction is great, as im sure the numbers back up! It fits the professional "pro artist" vibes that yall give off and stands out well from the other thumbnails on youtube (at least on my feed).
I am down to talk more about all of this if you wish! And as always, i jsut have an opinon feel free to ingore it!
-Katia
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow
I absolutely loved it. Certainly something I was looking for to help me pick schemes. Informative and educational. Yet Istill watched it again in the spirit of "ok, one more time, but slower" ;P
ha ha well our number one thing is TRY and respect people's time, we really try to make it so there is no stuffing about, just all content, no so you know the thing is, we even try cut breaths in the audio.
So I am glad that someone saw that and went one more time but slower
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow I really appreciate all that work you do. I am having a great time enjoying your content. I extra-appreciate the "put yourself in someone else's shoes" approach for us newbies, with your voice-of-the-novice inserts, so to speak.
@@DorianSoboltynski Or I might just feel like a novice next to Sunny ha ha but yeah I knew some people might feel that way because I already started to
But it is feedback like this that helps make our videos better, knowing what works because few people comment (statistically) and fewer follow up
You do great thing here, explaining the color theory in such a short time. Probably will need few more times to view this to fully understand and memorize, though :)
Gald we were helpful, if you could return the favour and tell us what helped you with the explanations?
This is absolutely brilliant. Thank you, this is a game changer for my painting.
You're very welcome! 🤗 - Cal
You guys do knockout content. I love these videos for references.
Thank you very much we do put a lot effort in we are really glad to hear it is helpful
Very useful for planning out army schemes. Thank you!
Glad to help - Cal
I really like the green, orange, blue space marine on the intro. It gives me a mandolorian vibe a bit. I'd love to see a little more breakdown on something like this specifically. I am trying to get up the nerve to paint an army more colorful like that, after seeing the chick in the ashoka show who has a blue green orange purple red armor. I feel it's the way the saturation and hue is done to play with the colors is what makes it so appealing.
I don't know about the TV show we aren't using any streaming services 😊 but we are doing a break down on practical application of colour theory in the next video
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow Googling Sabine Wren shows you what I'm talking about, sorta like the multi colored marines in your thumbnails.
@@_lewtz yeah we are going to be doing a break down of why Ultramarines seem like good guys and then Red, White and blue having each as the major colours because that is every countries flag ever so, sorry we won't be doing that one
This is the best color theory video I’ve ever seen. Great job.
Thank you very much can you tell us what makes it the best? We want to make more videos people love and people, seem to love this one so we want to know what we do right as much what we need to work on
Great video! Excellent explanation, probably the best I've seen
Thank you very much, is there anything in particular that helped you a lot?
This is great i needed this like 8 years ago qwq
I had that same feeling at one point time... -Sunny
I am sorry, we only finished it this week, we are pretty tired we will keep working making great stuff you and others - Cal
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow oh not trying to put preasure on you. it was a really great and informative video! the last few years i had learn so much about painting from youtubers i wish i knew when i startet my warhammer 40k armies
@@LordOfBalIs No pressure at all comments like this, and engaging with people keep us motivated, we are people persons. We love engaging and chatting, and comment like this is light and fun to engage with ☺
If in doubt and you're playing 40k, pick the Zorn palette, it's very appropriate
The man's not wrong, Zorn pallet is very 40k - Cal
@WhatareyouPaintingnow it's what John Blanche used in the most iconic artwork, it gives an antique and grunge style to whatever you're painting
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 Yep, we talk about it in one of our shorts - Cal
Thanks ! This is so useful ! The best video on that topic 👍
Glad it was helpful 🙂 this play list may be helpful for you Understanding Colour: ruclips.net/p/PLrsJ0kZicYvmt5W_pwbl1gZKoo4w1Rph0
This video is a hidden gem! Thank you VEEEEEEERY much!!!
Well if you think it's hidden you could always... share it...
Thanks for watching the comment 😊
I used to use 4 colored harmony without knowing it, and then realized it didn't work for my marines (blood ravens chapter, red main, cream secondary, green for lenses, blue for lenses, plasma and power weapons). The thing is, i used blue color only for some details, but it still took away from the cohesiveness of the overall color scheme. When all 4 colors sre present, it gives a cartoony vibe.
So I switched to a more strict color harmony, and played around with saturations to achieve the best contrast (darker red, paler cream, green for visors and lenses, no blue on regular models - yellow instead).
I still use blue, but much colder shade and very sparingly - only for exotic materials (plasma and power weapons, pale blue). Even though I still ended up with same four colors, they give a completely different feel. Blue doesn't make them cartoonish, it kind of supposed to break the rules of color harmony due to energy weapons being exotic and foreign to the rest of their equipment.
And I painted orks with more strict 3 colored harmony - and they looked kind of meh. Now I get it from this video - 4 color harmony would be more complementary for their esthetic and theme.
When I painted Alpha Legion, it seems that I've finally learned my lesson - I used greenish blue anf crimson red (with some desaturated green, but only for stuff like wires - I decided to paint their logos with white). Green is kind of close to green-ish blue to create much contrast, but it makes sense for Chaos dudes to sort of lack the harmony. So overall, I think, that works good for the feel the army makes.
Sounds like you have gotten a lot of painting in!
Did the video help with your understanding?
After years youtubing color theory, I found the holy grail 😂😂 thx for this gem!
Actually 😛 we have just finished re-recording this video with better audio and additional information with almost the same runtime just yesterday
So please stay on for that ☺️ - Cal
This video is incredibly useful for helping me get color theory in relation to mini painting
We are very glad you found it useful and it has helped you - Cal
I have wondered about this exact thing! Thank you so much!
If you like this one please check out the in-depth colour psychology video - Cal
Jesus fkn christ. This video rocks!!! I am blasted by your skill to explain this topic in such a inderstandaböe and easy way.
Was a pleasure to watch. Did you teach or smth? Its real good.
Sunny taught kids and people have told me I am a good teacher, its more about Sunny makes good visuals and we don't waste peoples time
Very nice video! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed!
I always struggled with making colours fit due to my colourblindness. This video helped a lot!
I am really glad it helped you
It's worth mentioning that our perceptions of color are relative. Tricking the eye's perception is almost more important than the actual thing being seen.
That also means the exact colors chosen are not as particularly exacting at a chart would imply.
*Another tip, consider how you subdue/diminish or emphasize/pop transitions (contrast). Desaturating (light or dark) will lessen the color and therefore lessen the transition. Super saturating will emphasize it. So will contrasting with 'contrast' (light vs dark)*
It's been a long time since I took a color theory class, so it was good to get a refresher on the more complicated harmonies. I like models with lots of objects and details, so a double-split or square will be nice to try.
I can remember doing an exercise with color value and a grid of intentionally varied colors. The teacher was convinced I made a mistake in an area and going to lower my grade. I had used several colors that tricked the eye by relative temperature. I had done it intentionally, just to play with the effect. I successfully defended my grade when I pulled out my phone and put the camera into black and white mode, proving that my color value was correct, but that i had tricked her eye into perceiving it wrong. Got an A+ instead of a B+.
The issue for us is time, that's why we made that joke at the start about how the colour wheel should look, because when it comes to giving instructions "Absolute Clarity" does not help understand as general rule we have found
I learned so much from this, thank you!
Really glad to have helped I hope you something out of our other videos may I recommend
ruclips.net/video/oYHhGFKP-dQ/видео.html
In-Depth Colour Psychology Your Army and You
This is the companion piece to that and then the final part is practical colour psychology application
Incredibly helpful video! 👌🏽🫡
Glad it was helpful! - Cal
did i just get a bachelors in art
Ha ha ha, I hope it helps with your understanding
Hands down the best explanation of color theory in gaming
Thanks how much of a turn off was the audio? We are thinking of redoing this video and just updating the audio
It was good! Definitely a complex subject. This is a video I feel could be watched several times and pick up new understandings each time.
My brain just imploded.
I hope that is metaphorical... 😅
Excellent, thanks.
Glad you enjoyed
My brain just melted into a puddle with colour theory
I hope not literally... -Cal
I hope that's a good thing 🧐 - Sunny
Thank you for this video!
You are so welcome! We did an update with better audio and few extra bits of information
ruclips.net/video/cR6nGvs9RPY/видео.html
Thanks for your support - Cal
Never knew any of this always trying to improve my skills thanks guys
Really glad we helped with your quest for improvement!
I dare you guys to look at the color scheme of lego rock raiders
I took a look but I am very confused as to what I am meant to see is there anything in particular?
@@WhatareyouPaintingnowpeople in the lego community just like how its a mess of colors
@@xXNoobKillaXx Oh okay, yeah I looked and I was just very confused...
Can you more of these?
To be honest it all depends on reception, if these videos (the series In-Depth colour psychogy, understanding colour armies colour harmony and this video), if they do really well we are more likely to do more. If you want to help share them that is the biggest thing that beats the algorithm.
What is that you liked about this video in particular?
this was great, thanks!
Really glad you enjoyed if you like that I suggest checking out these two which are its companion pieces
In-Depth Colour Psychology Your Army and You
ruclips.net/video/oYHhGFKP-dQ/видео.html
Practical Application of Colour Psychology and Theory
ruclips.net/video/0qipCbRmTO4/видео.html
Very nice video indeed. How much black could be too much black? As a Blood Angel painter, how much black (percentage-wise) is acceptable? An in the case of a Black Armor miniature where black is the predominant color, how would you balance colors in that case?
So like that all-black model at the start you can have an all-black model if you have great highlighting. But I believe that you are making death company if you're talking about black and blood angels. So I would just follow the chapters iconography, but if you want to go beyond that, I think a red helmet would look great
I don’t get the brown Color in tree lord example. What % it should be?Is it accent color or secondary?Space marines usually have some leather parts too, like pouches.
Sunny is currently sleeping and she is the art technical person more than me I will show her this comment when she gets up.
But just remember some people completely ignore colour harmonies and that's okay, but it does make it harder when explaining. I hope that helps for now
For the tree lord the dominate colour is the brown colour but think of it in those terms instead of percentages and you will find easier to break them down.
In the case of the tree lord, brown is the dominate, and blue, green and red orange are used as accents
As for the space marines, the leather pouches are usually small accessories, that would fall under accent.
I hope the explanation helps -Sunny
Started painting tau trying for yellow and brown scheme but not sure weather to keep the yellow very clean looking or maybe more battle worn
A choice only you can decide
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow thanks
One more question:
In 9:00, what are the percentages of each color?
I Think blue is 55%, red 25%, and yellow and purple 10+10%, it isn't?
Wich are the toned down colours?
Can you select the principal toned down orange about 60% and the secondary toned down red or Green as you want?
Don't focus on the percentages, that is more a guide.
but rather the question should be which colour do I want to make my focus for the mood I am trying to set? once you have that decided it's easy to minimise or enlarge the percentages of the other colours around it. But when you are using more colours in a colour scheme the colours will start to fight each other and it becomes hard to bring focus to the areas you want.
So it is also important to desaturate all other colours that you don't want to bring focus to so that your dominant colour pops. I hope that helps ~Sunny
Very good video. I wanted to point out though, that some people get too stiff about stuff like that and are unable to get out of the scheme because "rules says so". I have a friend, who picks literally a triad of colors and tracks % of model coverage, even it it obviously do not fit the theme and atmosphere of the model or what the model actually shows. Half naked barbarian dressed in leathers? Oh yeah, lets paint his leather and boots blue, and his more decorative parts in green. Evil chaos cultists using mostly red color? Obviously, they need to look like a spiderman, because they are in dire need of light blue everywhere.
I think it's worth pointing out, because people can get stuck into taking those too literally and too unbendable.
So we do point out that certain things don't fit within a thing like the shades but the biggest problem with this is...
We can't cover everything, we did try and point out that most things will fit under it even if people think they don't because colour harmony are just that harmonies. Harmonies work well together and there are lots of ways of making colours work. For us, we try REALLY, really hard to respect people's time. You may notice our videos go a mile a minute because we don't want to be the people where people scream get on with it. So, that means a lot of cutting. It is a good point, our focus was on getting people to watch and understand colour harmony rather than getting people unstuck from bad habits.
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow Hey, thanks for an answer - as I stated before, I really do like the video, it's well made, gives real examples instead of a dry theory and I don't think there is anything missing from it. I wanted to leave the comment about bad habits for people to bump into if they scroll through comments.
@@dziku2222 100% totally get it, we just want to give proper responses 😊
I was really happy, that Ultramarines were used as an example for a triad scheme - they are so easily forgotten ^^''. But actually an even better example would have been a 2nd edition Ultramarine. When you go look at it (a short search will get you covered ;) ) the Ultras had a lighter blue hue (real Ultramarine), the shoulder pads had a real light yellow trim (it was changed to golden in the 3rd or 4th edition) and a blood red weapon (which, again, was changed to black in the aforementioned editions). A great (though traditional) triadic color scheme.
This was awesome 👏 ❤
Glad you enjoyed
Wow 🤩👍 thanks.
Hope it was helpful 😊
Very well explained.
Glad it was helpful! We have an updated version with better audio and we believe we go over more if you want that to share with other - Cal
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Do you all have an wisdom related to using multiple harmonies at once? IE: Analogous colors for your highlights, and split complimentary for your shading? Furthering the example: Using Green for my base color, I would highlight the warm side with chartreuse, and the cold side with a slightly blue-er green. Shadows on the warm side would be magenta, while the cold side would be something like indigo.
Using analogous is a great way to shade your models because you already have your shadow midtone and highlights selected so using turquoise/teal for the shadows and chartreuse for highlights is great but if you want to shadow the parts that are highlighted with a colour further away from that colour family it can be confusing where your environment is and how things are being lit. If you want to have different colour families for shadows and highlights you could use indigo to shadow (because it's close to blue) your midtone green and yellow for the highlights (because it's next to green on the wheel) ~Sunny
@ Thanks for your insights! I just discovered your FB group and posted the example there.
The disembodied voices are giving me real "Turning a Sphere Inside Out" vibes.
¿Qué?
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow "Turning a Sphere Outside In" RUclips video by Huggbees.
We watched it and now we are even more confused
interesting video, been thinking on a paint scheme for some minis from Conquest but the removal of mould lines is, for whatever reason, really sucking out all motivation out of me this time, now the boxes are just sitting, untouched, because i cannot bring myself to slog through yet more mould lines, anyone got any trick to making the process faster? also yes this comment is just me venting my frustration, really want to paint but also really dont want to remove yet more mould lines
What kind of knife are you using to remove the mould lines?
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow a hobby knife + a random assortment of other sharp objects for when a mould line is in a spot the blade cant fully clean without damaging the plastic
@@Error-mn4el My first suggestion would be like checking if their is fuel in the mower. Change your blade see if having a better blade just makes the experience less miserable but my second would be we actually have a video on this called
Some something pile of shame
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It basically has all the very basic but correct psychological tips to keep you on with big projects its what we used to build over a thousands Dungeons and Lazers tiles so we aren't just talking out our behinds
I hope this helps
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow will give it a watch thanks ^^
@@Error-mn4el Tell me if it helps
What harmonises well with German Fieldgrey as the dominant color? 🤔
Vallejo Model Color German Fieldgrey WWII 70830 Is that one?
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow Yes, thats the one! A slightly greenish mud like color.
@ Well when we put it in adobe colour wheel it just says its a neutral grey it suggests the following
These are colour numbers
#262621
#595951
#0D0D0C
#F2F2F2
#8C8C8C
I can see this wheel different from my CMYK wheel, for miniatures is better to use this wheel or the CMYK wheel colour?
in my CMYK Red is the complementary of Red, and in your, Red is the complementary of Green.
We have a member video on CMYK - Cal
was wondering as i am new to warhammer painting. I'm building and painting tyranids and was think of use Brown for the flesh (60), a shade of green for the scales (30) and either light blue or green for the accents (10). what color harmony would this fall under and would it work well?
Here is my advice from a long time miniature gamer and ok painter. 1. If you are really concerned paint a test model to see if you like it and show to others. 2. You are painting an army that will be viewed at a distance of 18 inches to 5 feet away. You want a few things in the model to stand out. Try not to get caught up in the details. Except spend some time in the heroes and bigger pieces 3. If you have a painted army … you are doing great! Many players do not 4. What you paint now will be great. Three years from now when your skill is better you will go ‘Ug, I should repaint these guys’. 5. Lastly you are the one who has to put the pieces in the table, take them off when they die and put them away in their case. In the end go with a scheme that makes you happy and gives you pleasure.
Nice vid, but your audio peaks/clips pretty hard.
It's very harsh through headphones.
Noticed it on other videos too. If you aren't already a compressor is an easy fix
So we are applying a limiter, I have listened through headphones and noticed some our background noises like the fridge in previous ones but I thought we were pretty good just apply a compression to the files? Is that what you are suggesting?
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow
Not had to compress any audio myself in a long time but a custom compressor working on peaks/clipping.
The into to the "What your Army's Colours say about You?" is a good example of what I mean.
Not trying to be mean 😊😊
@@rankcolour8780 oh yeah so that was before we started applying limiters I think everything after that or everything after metallics we started using the limiters, how was this videos sound?
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow What's important is not even limiters. Limiting it at a level doesn't change the harsh frequencies, and you can hear obvious clipping.
A compressor more dynamically limits the audio so it doesn't clip so harshly. Also, using an EQ to reduce harsh frequencies is important.
Great content, but I have a few constructive criticisms.
1) You need a better mic. You sound very tinny, which I assume is from the mic.
2) You stated that value is changed by added black or white. A more accurate statement would be that you desaturate by adding white and you devalue by adding black. This is important to color theory because you can restore saturation and value by adding back more base color.
3) For the 60/30/10 rule you touched on this, but didn't really explain it. For space marines the 60 navy blue is a devalued blue, so the 30 color should be desaturated to pair. The same goes for a desaturated 60 you would pair with a devalued 30. You could also do this with warm/cold colors but that might be a bit too complicated for this video.
4) For analogous color harmonies you should accent/compliment with grayscale. This isn't necessary, but it makes for pleasing color schemes and makes the colors pop more.
Keep up the great work!
Its not the mic it is the background so we live in the middle of bumble-truck no-where watch our most recent episode and you will hear the difference. We upgraded our recording area
Thank you for the feedback
Question, do we use color harmonies to choose the color tones for light and shadows too?
Yes as general rule you do. You want contrast as much as possible for example it's really hard to have yellow as the dark tone - Cal
@WhatareyouPaintingnow So we would bring the color towards the warm color of the group, for example if it was a triad of blue and I wanted to make a brighter tone of blue to use as light, I would bring it in the direction of the yellow, is this correct? Thank you for replying! Your videos are much easier to understand
@@PatrickTheArtist715 Glad the videos are helping, yellow was just an example but let's say you are doing a try colour with blue, that would be red, yellow and blue, blue is likely to be your darkest colour, you can vary things up but yeah generally that's how it goes - Cal
You mention black white and grays at the end but what about browns?
Browns are really difficult because they/should be treated closer to greys because they are a compound or composite colour.
They contain every colour, the way you get a brown is by mixing different amounts of every colour or by mixing a primary with its opposite secondary, red with green, yellow with purple or blue with orange
Sunny is the only with the art technical knowledge so I will show this comment to her but I think there is a reason we stayed away from other than using it as an example for analogous schemes
I know a very long answer for a very short question but the answer is I don't know as much how to use it in colour harmonies - Cal
Cal is correct in the above comment about how to get Brown, But I think what will help you decide on how to use Brown in a scheme is to look at it more as "How to treat brown?"
Brown can also be seen as a Dark Orange, Dark Red or Dark Purple so depending on the tone of Brown you can treat them as Orange, Red or Purple when designing a scheme with Brown
I hope this clarifies things :)
~Sunny
I don't see any red in the tree model at all. Couldn't it just as easily be a split complementary scheme with orange as the dominant colour and blue and green as the secondary/accents?
I'm doing a tyranid scheme where I have purple and blue as the main colours. I want to have a contrasting base. Some colour wheels say yellow/orange would be the best complementary others say bright green. Now I'm confused, why do they tell me different things?
The best thing to do it bust out a colour wheel tool like adobe colour wheel and put your actual colours on there as a split complimentary and see what it suggests as your third - Cal
In the Square, there should be toned down colours or it's not so important than in the triadic or tetradic?
Do you mean to desaturate the colours? Preferably when working with any colour scheme doesn't matter if it's mono duo or more it's always good to have toned down colours to help make the dominant colour pop to bring focus to the areas you want people to focus on ~Sunny
But what is with color schemes like the Howling Griffon Space Marines. They have 2 dominant colors.
As we pointed out colour schemes and colour harmonies are different, lots of colour schemes are colours harmonies but some colour schemes are just that.
A colour scheme is a scheme to follow not always a harmony. Does that mean you can't paint howling griffins, no, of course you paint whatever you like. But, some colour schemes will have a lack of colour harmony
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow Thanks for clarification
@@dirkgaffron5456 glad to have helped
"Thought stormcast eternal as knockoff space marines"
Nobody thought that, everybody knew that.
so i have a question, how do you find a colour that fits the rest of a model but for a different material?
like one of the sisters of silence for example, if you painted them a yellowish/orange (gold) and purple what colour could you paint their fur capes? could you paint them purple or some other colour like that or no because of the material?
You treat the model as whole, rather than individual parts so don't treat each part as a separate item but a part of the whole. I hope that helps
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow thanks!
@@datcheesecakeboi6745 glad to have helped 😊
Thanks for the great tips! Really learned a bunch, although I must admit the literally finishing each other's sentences bit kinda creeps me out in a weird way.
I promise we mostly aren't children of the corn people... mostly
Tyranid coconut crab
I would like to watch it but the VO is just hard to deal with.
If you mean voice over I am sorry not much we can do - Cal
Is there a possibility to get the slides that you show with the relationships/harmony of the colors? Or where can I find them?
What happens if i break the rule? Like instead of dark green as a complementary i choose light yellow. Does the eye find it repulsive or something?
It's like cooking these are rules to help you make things more cohesive and work for you. You can do different things outside of these but it just makes things more difficult - Cal
It would depend on what's paring it, these rules help make good combinations. So as we said it's often not as simple as red and green. If you could be more specific with your comment I may be able to help more - Cal
I decided to paint the Argent Stars, a dark angels successor chapter they have a red and mainly grey colour scheme
Aussie accent so close to Internet Historian's it trips me out
All of us just a goverment psy op Australia isn't real :P I am joking of course but, you're not the first person to say so - Cal
@WhatareyouPaintingnow I myself am also a member of this "Australia" operation, this message will now self destruct.
There is some nuance, but some sentences are undistinguishable.
f***ing great. thank you
Thank you for censoring, and we are glad to be of service
60-30-10 rule on the spacemarine is more like 90-9-1 if we would quantify the surface areas tbh
Hey, I'm really sorry, but you need to figure out audio. I tuned into this video and my ears nearly got blasted out. Any basic mic and some compression/EQ in the editor software will go a long way.
Dude you are right, watch any of our past videos from the past maybe three months and we have really improved a lot, there were a few issues, recording to loud, being in a Tin shack, this is on our list to re-record because its a very popular and good episode but seriously watch any of our more recent stuff and you will see we have it a lot more figured out, won't say its perfect but A LOT better
How does this apply to RGB color wheel?
It's best to study colours through the traditional colour wheel, even though it is artificial in that we see in RGB, the principles are best applied through the traditional colour wheel
How does this work with dark angels ?
You are going to have to be a little more specific
I'm colorblind
i just paint with what colors on a whim
TY
All G
Show me a colour wheel and I immediately think about MTG... Nice.
Nice, my brother and I used to go hard into Magic the Gathering, I was more a deck builder than anything else. But I built him one deck Eldrazi Ramp where he went 6-0 in FMNs 80+ FNMs undefeated it was amazing
@@WhatareyouPaintingnow That is dope haha loving your channel from what I've seen.
@@deadNdivine12 Thanks is there anything in particular that made you enjoy it? We are always trying to improve
Thing is that most deceptions of Ultramarines is of the second company.
It is the default that we are showing as the example there 😊
Great vid topic, cant listen because of mic peaking
we have been working on that and applied limiters I don't really know what to say
F.Y.I the volume of this video is crazy high, yes I turned it down but the quality of your audio sounds pushed and spiky. Otherwise keep up the great work, the content was good.
Sorry about that, our older videos are the best audio wise but we have it fixed now we may redo this video later
For 20 years now I have not been able to invent a really MY unique scheme for the Tyranid army...
With all other miniatures it’s easier: the goal is to break the feeling of “toy plastic/tin soldiers”. So I want to learn how to paint 50 shades of copper, brass and bronze, completely avoiding any grey metal.
All other colors will be secondary to the copper shades.