For those wondering, the full kit will cost $20,000..."It will include portals, a big brake kit for the front, a disk brake conversion for the rear, a full float conversion for the rear, and 4340 axle shafts. "
It is a nice kit i aint going to lie. but that's too much money for my blood and im sure as others. for that price. id rather stick with my oem setup with kings or do a long travel setup. and just do a solid axle swap on a old toyota. this is all too fancy for a somwhat modern truck.
@@bige311 if that’s your primary concern don’t go offroad. I can tell you we have run these for almost 2 years with V8’s and 40’s and raced a set at KOH this year with not a single gear failure. Will it happen at some point, sure. Has it happened, nope. But if your thought process is “what if I break that offroad”, you shouldn’t be offroad in the first place. Some of us love to push our vehicles and run trails…but like this product, it’s not for everyone
Yes!! Such a sleeper setup. Perfectly balanced up and down travel in the IFS. Love the full float conversion in the rear. This with 37s will out wheel my long travel + 35s any day in rock crawling. What is the most positive wheel offset I can run? I'd love to have even less scrub radius but wheel selection would be limited.
I was wondering what your thoughts on this setup would be when I watched the build video Stellar Built did on it. In the comments there was discussion on the strength of the alluminum portals vs doing them in steel. I thought the aluminum not only would save a ton of unsprung mass but should be more then capable of handling most abuse. Some believed this suspension was too weak as well but I argued that all the mass is below the springs and the truck would be supporting basically the stock weight so it wouldn't matter (this was before they addded the camper etc).
@@tj_offroad the only other portal out for a Tacoma is the warewolf stuff. We are half the weight and the aluminum we use is significantly stronger than cast iron. We run this same material on trophy trucks and ultra4 rigs. If it can take the punishment from them it’s more than fine for a recreational wheeler
We camped at Hanna Flats Friday night, went to pioneer town Saturday and camped on the south side of the lake up on skyline on Saturday. Next time say hello and get some free swag
Love the portal axles and particularly that they are made in the US of A. Called Quinn this morning and he was gracious enough to answer my many questions. Hoping soon to place an order.
This is a really nice setup! Its expensive but if you think of all the things you no longer have to do to fit 37's, its not bad at all. No longer have to: Cab Mount Relocation - $250 parts plus $400 labor Lift kit - $3-5000 plus install labor Front and rear high clearance bumpers to fit 37's - $3-5000 plus install labor Re-gear - $4000 CV shafts stay in factory angles which saves on wear, as long as they dont break with 37s Tons of alignment issues Fender liner hammering and hacking which drops resale drastically and always looks like crap
To be fair while they don't need to buy a "lift" they still had to purchase the shocks which is most of the cost of a lift. And they should still regear if they are pushing 37s. The stock rear end still takes abuse no matter how the truck is lifted.
Very nice set up! With that being said. On version 2.0 my suggestion would be moving the front wheels forward and inch or so, that way you don't have to cut the front fender and better turning during articulation. One thing we do on prerunner builds to turn big tires when articulating.
You say the 37's clear on bump so what up travel do you have? With 37's what are you doing about the steering components? The ability that people will now think they have, are there plans to do anything with the control arm mounts? What about the added weight as un-sprung mass from the portal and a 37? Do you plan to add a bypass to the equation. Send a set to JD Fabrication and I will wait for their build and opinion.
This isn’t a long travel kit. JD makes one of you want to pair it with the portals. Our goal is a mild fun wheeling/camping rig. I got a dirtking cam kit and upper arm brace kit. This isn’t a desert bombing truck. The added weight from the portal is not an issue for the fox 2.5 to control. I don’t like bypasses for a driver. We get an extra inch of travel out of the fox 2.5. The suspension is balanced unlike a traditional long travel kit which is 80% up and 20% down. This is more like 50/50
Super rad. Wish we saw this at expo. Just curious -- does it seem like there might be need for travel more in the rear? only seeing a few inches of shaft on that Fox 2.5 DSC. Nice work!
It’s an OEM replacement shock. If you want to go long travel look at the JD Fabrication rear kit. It’s super nice and pulls 14”. Our goal is not to make a long travel truck. It’s to make a fun camping/wheeling rig around a fairly stock platform
Would it be a good idea to install 1:1 portals on the rear axle only with an IFS setup? For a touring rig I think this could be a nice compromise in equalizing the clearance of the rear axle with the IFS but not ruining scrub radius/ handling so much by messing with the geometry and unsprung weight in the front
I would love to see how they hold up to heavy rock crawling. It’s a great concept but the cost is equivalent to having custom 60’s built. Obviously the lift is worth something too so let’s see how it holds up.
You can’t heavy rock crawl a Tacoma. We run this same gear and bearing package in Jeeps with V8’s and 40’s. We also run the same gear tooth profile just 10% larger and bearing package with 1000HP big blocks in trophy trucks and Ultra4. We fielded 17 vehicles on portals at KOH this year with zero gear issues. The only thing we saw was a broken axle shaft. This is a race tested and proven design.
The new Tacoma is an entirely different platform. With that said, we will have them for the 24 Tacoma before you can get a 24 Tacoma. 😜 Toyota is great to work with
What is maintenance and life span on something like this? Is it as simple as bolt it on and you're good to good, any clue how long it would last before a rebuild?
Change the oil in them every 3,000 miles. They will last you a very long time if you maintain them. We have 30,000 miles on a set with 40’s and everything still looks brand new inside
Question, how does this set up run down the hwy. Can you run 80 mph across the country 10 times to the hammers and Rubicon from back east? This set up with a marlin and rooftop tent and arb in front might the the absolute hottest set up to ever exist.
How reasonable would it be to throw a set of these on an otherwise stock 5th gen 4runner (trail edition w/ rear e locker), and some 35s, just for a mild wheeler with lots of clearance? Should be able to be returned to stock pretty easily
@@TheeDutchRutter technically a 37” tire is 22% larger than the stock tire. The portal is a 22% gear reduction. It puts the gearing back to OE specs with the bigger tire.
@@timgarcia6271 the factory racks are not great…yes I upgraded all the steering components. 20K is a pallet of parts. We have install shops throughout the country, but you can also do it yourself in your garage. Install isn’t hard, just takes time.
@@sergateway they do sell them. Look up Broncbuster. He imports them from China. More that twice the weight, quality is suspect at best, and they don’t replace your factory upright which is a known failure point. Go for it…we dare you. You will save $4,000.
prices?? on youtube?? that is what our website is for. since you asked 20k for a full set front and rears big break kit full float shafts to turn a semi float into a full float as well as everything you need to bolt on and drive. or 10K for just fronts..
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For those wondering, the full kit will cost $20,000..."It will include portals, a big brake kit for the front, a disk brake conversion for the rear, a full float conversion for the rear, and 4340 axle shafts. "
For that much you could pay Sherpas to carry you and all your stuff over all rocks that are 15 inches tall or taller for years lol.
That is a lot of coin to make it over that steep curb at Starbucks : )
It is a nice kit i aint going to lie. but that's too much money for my blood and im sure as others. for that price. id rather stick with my oem setup with kings or do a long travel setup. and just do a solid axle swap on a old toyota. this is all too fancy for a somwhat modern truck.
@@GhettoFabulous670 what if you happen to damage a unit off-roading? You are screwed..
@@bige311 if that’s your primary concern don’t go offroad. I can tell you we have run these for almost 2 years with V8’s and 40’s and raced a set at KOH this year with not a single gear failure. Will it happen at some point, sure. Has it happened, nope. But if your thought process is “what if I break that offroad”, you shouldn’t be offroad in the first place. Some of us love to push our vehicles and run trails…but like this product, it’s not for everyone
Yes!! Such a sleeper setup. Perfectly balanced up and down travel in the IFS. Love the full float conversion in the rear. This with 37s will out wheel my long travel + 35s any day in rock crawling. What is the most positive wheel offset I can run? I'd love to have even less scrub radius but wheel selection would be limited.
You can probably run +50 but the +35 is the best high positive offset/good looking wheel we could find. And the bead grip tech is pretty good stuff
Tinkerer you should do a video on this setup.
@@johnd830 This ^
I was wondering what your thoughts on this setup would be when I watched the build video Stellar Built did on it. In the comments there was discussion on the strength of the alluminum portals vs doing them in steel. I thought the aluminum not only would save a ton of unsprung mass but should be more then capable of handling most abuse. Some believed this suspension was too weak as well but I argued that all the mass is below the springs and the truck would be supporting basically the stock weight so it wouldn't matter (this was before they addded the camper etc).
@@tj_offroad the only other portal out for a Tacoma is the warewolf stuff. We are half the weight and the aluminum we use is significantly stronger than cast iron. We run this same material on trophy trucks and ultra4 rigs. If it can take the punishment from them it’s more than fine for a recreational wheeler
Also, this is an amazing piece of workmanship to create the portal axles
The work done tells itself. This looks like very smart and elegant upgrade for gearheads ⚙.
Pretty sure I just saw this truck at the campsite next to mine in Big Bear yesterday. Looks amazing 🤙🏼
We camped at Hanna Flats Friday night, went to pioneer town Saturday and camped on the south side of the lake up on skyline on Saturday. Next time say hello and get some free swag
Love the portal axles and particularly that they are made in the US of A. Called Quinn this morning and he was gracious enough to answer my many questions. Hoping soon to place an order.
This is a really nice setup! Its expensive but if you think of all the things you no longer have to do to fit 37's, its not bad at all.
No longer have to:
Cab Mount Relocation - $250 parts plus $400 labor
Lift kit - $3-5000 plus install labor
Front and rear high clearance bumpers to fit 37's - $3-5000 plus install labor
Re-gear - $4000
CV shafts stay in factory angles which saves on wear, as long as they dont break with 37s
Tons of alignment issues
Fender liner hammering and hacking which drops resale drastically and always looks like crap
To be fair while they don't need to buy a "lift" they still had to purchase the shocks which is most of the cost of a lift. And they should still regear if they are pushing 37s. The stock rear end still takes abuse no matter how the truck is lifted.
@@estebanrivera8820 The portals are the regear, they change the entire final ratio
they did have to do a cab mount relocation to run 37s. that kit still stick the wheels out way to far even with a +30 offset wheels.
@@BenBinnebose not in the rear
@@two_wheel_feels365yes in the rear lol. They have portals on front and rear.
Very nice set up! With that being said. On version 2.0 my suggestion would be moving the front wheels forward and inch or so, that way you don't have to cut the front fender and better turning during articulation. One thing we do on prerunner builds to turn big tires when articulating.
I agree with you 100% but the shift should happen in the arms, not the portal.
Makes me want a Taco now. Lol. Awesome product.
Just amazing. Love to have this on my Tacoma.
NICE Setup! slick and elegant yet badass
One of the nicest trucks I’ve seen, simple…..
Center tire inflation hubs would be awesome!!
That’s sick the only problem is factory rack and tie rods are not strong enough for 37’s. Ask me how I know 😂
We are in development of a full billet rack. Like our billet rack for the bronco it will have a lifetime warranty
Hows the rough road driving? Is the extra unsprung mass noticeable?
i have 1 question : Do we have to use a high performance steering kit along with bigger tires and portals? Thanks.
Nope. If it works with the factory upright it works with ours
Waiting for these to come out for my Gx460... :)
We will release them next week
I would definitely buy if you made a kit for my ford F350. 👌
Ohhh man. Well done boys😍😍😍😍.. its perfect
You say the 37's clear on bump so what up travel do you have? With 37's what are you doing about the steering components? The ability that people will now think they have, are there plans to do anything with the control arm mounts? What about the added weight as un-sprung mass from the portal and a 37? Do you plan to add a bypass to the equation. Send a set to JD Fabrication and I will wait for their build and opinion.
This isn’t a long travel kit. JD makes one of you want to pair it with the portals. Our goal is a mild fun wheeling/camping rig. I got a dirtking cam kit and upper arm brace kit. This isn’t a desert bombing truck. The added weight from the portal is not an issue for the fox 2.5 to control. I don’t like bypasses for a driver. We get an extra inch of travel out of the fox 2.5. The suspension is balanced unlike a traditional long travel kit which is 80% up and 20% down. This is more like 50/50
Its on my Christmas list. Hopefully the mrs get the hint.
Super rad. Wish we saw this at expo. Just curious -- does it seem like there might be need for travel more in the rear? only seeing a few inches of shaft on that Fox 2.5 DSC. Nice work!
It’s an OEM replacement shock. If you want to go long travel look at the JD Fabrication rear kit. It’s super nice and pulls 14”. Our goal is not to make a long travel truck. It’s to make a fun camping/wheeling rig around a fairly stock platform
I noticed that too. Maybe only 3” before full bump? It’s probably all the weight in the back because factory unloaded is 4”-5”
Would it be a good idea to install 1:1 portals on the rear axle only with an IFS setup? For a touring rig I think this could be a nice compromise in equalizing the clearance of the rear axle with the IFS but not ruining scrub radius/ handling so much by messing with the geometry and unsprung weight in the front
Curious if there is a shock upgrading recommendation
What kind of mpg hit do the portals cost?
Not noticeable. I averaged 15mpg on 37’s. That was driving up to Big Bear from SD, wheeling, and driving home.
I would love to see how they hold up to heavy rock crawling. It’s a great concept but the cost is equivalent to having custom 60’s built. Obviously the lift is worth something too so let’s see how it holds up.
You can’t heavy rock crawl a Tacoma. We run this same gear and bearing package in Jeeps with V8’s and 40’s. We also run the same gear tooth profile just 10% larger and bearing package with 1000HP big blocks in trophy trucks and Ultra4. We fielded 17 vehicles on portals at KOH this year with zero gear issues. The only thing we saw was a broken axle shaft. This is a race tested and proven design.
@@74weld ya that Tacoma 3.5 engine won’t be making those portals sweat lol
Any idea if this will work on the new 2024 tacoma? Makes me want to buy a taco!
The new Tacoma is an entirely different platform. With that said, we will have them for the 24 Tacoma before you can get a 24 Tacoma. 😜 Toyota is great to work with
@@74weld things that make you go hmmmm 🤔
Oh man one day one day
Do you also make Portals for Tundras? I'd love to be able to fit 40s in my Tundra.
We are developing them now. I’ll have a 24 Tacoma (same upright as 22+ Tundra) at overland expo west in May
What is maintenance and life span on something like this? Is it as simple as bolt it on and you're good to good, any clue how long it would last before a rebuild?
Change the oil in them every 3,000 miles. They will last you a very long time if you maintain them. We have 30,000 miles on a set with 40’s and everything still looks brand new inside
This is really nice.
Will there be one compatable with 95-04 tacomas? I see on your site it only lists them as being compatible back to 05
I want, but I don't want a Toyota. Show the Frontier some love!
Question, how does this set up run down the hwy. Can you run 80 mph across the country 10 times to the hammers and Rubicon from back east? This set up with a marlin and rooftop tent and arb in front might the the absolute hottest set up to ever exist.
Absolutely you can. We daily drive these with no worries
Does the steering rack need to be upgrated from stock????
How reasonable would it be to throw a set of these on an otherwise stock 5th gen 4runner (trail edition w/ rear e locker), and some 35s, just for a mild wheeler with lots of clearance? Should be able to be returned to stock pretty easily
what's the load on the tiny 4 bolts that hold them to the axel housing? it looks super weak.
Unreal! Some day….
Will ever make a kit for the chevy and gmc?
Yes. We are looking at the Chevy Colorado zr2 platform now
Can The Bronco portals fit on a 21’ F150?
Love it
Can those portals fit on a 5th gen 4runner?
Yes. They will bolt right up
whats the cost installed?
37s with factory gearing correct?
Correct. Your factory 3.91 goes to a 4.77 with the portal
@@74weld 4.77 would be perfect for 33-35”
@@TheeDutchRutter 4.77 is perfect for 37s.
What about folks that’s already geared? Would they need to go back to stock gearing?
@@TheeDutchRutter technically a 37” tire is 22% larger than the stock tire. The portal is a 22% gear reduction. It puts the gearing back to OE specs with the bigger tire.
Can you make portals a 2500 Ram?
Did you have to upgrade the steering? Does $20,000 include installation?
@@timgarcia6271 the factory racks are not great…yes I upgraded all the steering components. 20K is a pallet of parts. We have install shops throughout the country, but you can also do it yourself in your garage. Install isn’t hard, just takes time.
Awesome!! Do you plan to make portals for other Toyota applications? For the FJC?
We have them now! We have several sets going to 4Runner and FJC guys
@@74weldWhat about the 3rd gen 4Runner?
Need these for f150s!!!!
Ive got to ask lol but how many mgs is this rig getting 😅
What’s your guys tire size and brand
can you make portals for a 2005 jeep grand cherokee (wk) 5.7L Limited
Little 40k never killed anyone! Awesome tho.
Will your current portals fit on The 24’ tacoma?
No. The 24 is a totally new platform…but we have one on the way and we are in development
Will this fit hilux
Yes
Can you make portals for the Dana 60?
We have them for 60’s
Does the kit including the upper n lower arms as well ?
No, those will be offered as separate parts
Looking forward to having this exact setup and was wondering where to purchase those exact upper and lower from? Thanks@@74weld
Do you guys just sell the billet uca’s and lca’s?
UCA is available on the site now and LCA will be up soon
5.7 tundra needs portals baddddddd
In the works
Does the truck make it uphill with the 37s and that poor gutless V6?
No. We were not able to drive up a hill so we abandoned the truck and walked home
Small brain comment
@@74weld let me know where you left that badass truck!!
What about towing?
Tacomas aren’t exactly tow pigs, but sure. The portal isn’t going to be your limiting factor
Can this work with RCLT kit？
Yes we make a portal that works with the RCLT
What color 703s are those?
Titanium
Nice🌮
I'm sure its fun for an afternoon but that drop-in canopy looks incredibly impractical, I bet you can't reach hardly anything from the sides.
You mean the GFC camper? Impractical…it’s the most functional practical shell and camper over ever used. Literally my favorite part of the truck.
37s never look this good without a 6+" lift. looks like 35s aha
Those rear shocks look like they have 2”” of uptravel
That's what I was thinking
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Super nice. But at 20k. Not in my life time.
When I win the lottery.....
If only it was affordable! Haha
I'm a wait for Temu to sell portals cause that's too much money
@@sergateway they do sell them. Look up Broncbuster. He imports them from China. More that twice the weight, quality is suspect at best, and they don’t replace your factory upright which is a known failure point. Go for it…we dare you. You will save $4,000.
You said we wanted to keep this build super simple. For the amount of money that is spent on this truck it cannot be called super simple. Come on man
That’s a matter of opinion…it’s simple to us. Shocks, portals, GFC camper, bumpers, winch.
Until said Rocks enter the wheel wells And jam themselves between the rim and calipers 🤔
@74Weld can you help me construct a good excuse to the wife as to why I need this for my Tacoma ?
A price point of 7k you might get a bunch of us but at 20k I’ll just buy a built jeep
That rear wheel setup seriously looks like a weak point on rocky trails 🏁🏁
We raced them at KOH, and the same setup is what we run on Jeeps with 600HP and 40’s. They are tested…
Never trust a company that doesn't post its prices.
prices?? on youtube?? that is what our website is for. since you asked 20k for a full set front and rears big break kit full float shafts to turn a semi float into a full float as well as everything you need to bolt on and drive. or 10K for just fronts..
Will this work with marlin crawlers rock crawler suspension?
No, but we make a portal for the Marlin RCLT kit.
What unit bearing does it use up front ?