Big butthurt going on atm, caused by the 2 premium tanks spoilered for December. Time to discuss the state of Premium Content in Enlisted and how to improve it 🔥🔥 This video is basically 2 videos in one (general premium discussion & the new pre-order tanks), therefore the length. Understanding the first half helps grasping the power level discussion in the second half, so I combined them together 🧐🧐 Forum Post: forum.enlisted.net/en/t/pre-order-firestorm-tanker-squads/154375 UncleBoomerDivision on Twitter: twitter.com/ParaDivisionYT 0:00 Intro 1:11 The Premium Squad Problem(s) 4:28 What Is A Good Premium Squad? 21:14 Saving Enlisted's Premium Squads 30:25 Rocket Pershing & HoRi - How Good Are They Really?
I'm a hardcore Counter Strike player who wanted to play something like a ww shooter fps, and found enlisted on steam last month. I started playing and I'm hooked on it and let me tell you there has been no other game than CS and Souls born games that had me hooked. I haven't spent a penny in the game and don't ever intend to, not gonna buy premium just grind naturally, I have played in total of 35 ish hours in total and on Germany faction I have unlocked most of the things till tier 3, its not that hard to grind, even without paying a penny its a really fun game to play, specially if you are good at fps games, the game mechanics is what matters the most and enlisted has nailed it, the bolt actions feel so satisfying, the mgs are so good to control and so many ways to play the game. I don't even mind having only 3 infantry squads that I get to have each match, it adds to the strategy and what to squads to upgrade.
Oh boy I am so sorry for you. If you spend too much time, Gaijin will consume your soul and you will spend money trust me. You will spend money if you keep playing.
@@brentonherbert7775 i don't understand the reference can you explain? Is it like the weapons/squad difference in premium and regular too great to have only regular squads in high br? I have all tier 3 squad/weapons pushing tier 4, i don't see any issue for now, plus I'm the type of persons who enjoys have worse weapons than enemy and still beating them, and low tier weapons are so good, I was content with just the kar 98 for riflemen but there's grenade launcher variant, cherry on top, i use carcano scope mount i like sniping in this game, and the ppsh 41 + fnab is enough for my assaulters, even against high br i have had no issue, the german pz iv N is great as well. What exactly is it that changes when you play more?
I own several premium squads. Most of them are weak when compared to maxed out tech tree variants of the same squad. Some premium vehicles are very good and fun but most are garbage. Premium APCs are totally worth it.
Only premium squad(s) i ever bought was the guerilla squads recently. Not being able to change their primary is a downside but thankfully their primaries aren't bad and they look cool. Not game changing in any way but kinda cute and fun to have! BUT premium APC squads are probably the best bang for your buck for sure!
They monetise the game like they're on the brink of bankruptcy. If they keep it up, they will be. $50+ for a digital thing they have endless copies of is as smooth brain a move as it gets. For that much I should get the asset for use in my own game. Shear volume of sales will make everybody happy but they think whales will keep them afloat. Where is this business school these people are are learning these things? I like the game, it's made by talented people, but it is what it is.
Some ways to measure tanks is also important: speed, ability to survive in close area , surprise effect, abilty to supress and ability to generate momentum 😅
All this could have been avoided if they would have released the TT unlocks of this next major update up first. Like we all know for sure that the long awaited MG-42 with the 100 round belt and the Super Pershing is coming in this next major update as hinted by some CMs. The marketing in general needs to be improved a lot.
Rocket tanks are just a pinata on tracks, anyone can see and hear them especially on the repawn screen, their hands will unconditionally move to the plane with bombs. You have to use it like a drugged Khorne cultist just rush and kill as many people as possible and die in a single hit, it's the same gameplay type as flamethrower tanks.
yeah i warned about that in my russian prem guide. it makes no sense to nerf this squad with -1, especially since medics already are very underpowered. DF should increase it to 5 soldiers.
@@paradivision1362 Then they would have to model another female Soldier, because currently there are only 4 different ones, which are not finished/completed yet. :D
Yeah, having at least an additional one would be great. I also bought them in this last sale despite Para's advice in his guide. I went ahead and wanted to simp when playing my BR 2 Soviet lineup, anyways 🤷 I don't regret it tho. They're quite fast, probably the speediest infantry unit in the game. Excellent for flanking and causing mayhem. These gals can be sneaky. Give the engineer one to equip the big ammo pouch and you can One-man-army (in this case woman lol) throughout the match.
I use the 105mm tank in BR5 games, its BR3. Even though you dont really want to engage, low turret speed, and slow movement, gets stuck easy, once you find a good spot you can wreak havoc. The HE shell will damage most tanks if you have to engage Great for infantry support taking buildings by shelling windows...If your teammates guard you so much better. I got stuck in a trench with the 105mm and the enemy thought I was dead, because I was stuck, in a good spot and got 50 kills before they got me. The Pershing is good in some situations but I think the key in tanks in general is using cover, but the Jumbo is a good all around tank. I have 1 premium squad that I use a lot and it the Winchester with 4 engineers and a radio. I have 2 other premium squads I have that are pretty worthless.
If darkflow wants to make money, they should sell pre merge squads for gold. Being able to run multiple heavy tanks or being able to bring 3 flamethrower squads or just having a large variety of specialists would be worth it as long as the price is reasonable
They really just need to increase the amount of vehicles each squad uses. Its ridiculous USA players can only pick one high BR tank to run, and Japs only get one high BR airspawn fighter.
I feel that certain squads are strong like paratroopers, rocket tanks, and certain planes othere are just paid cosmetics and guns your stuck with. I just hope not everything is cosmetic and more event squads balance it out
nope, as lowering them will create squads that are just average-good in 95% cases. power creep can only happen if the lowered squad is better than the best item in the new BR, which happens basically never. there are countless examples, but the flakbus and kv2 would be fun gimmicks but still overall worse than the gold standard tanks in BR3, same thing happened when dicker max got lowered and is still barely played as its just worse than panzer 4 j.
The monetization has been soo bad even during the “campaign” era. It’s part of what let to the “almost boycott. RIP to the OG’s who payed $50 for the P-40, Re.2001, and Churchill..or $40 for the Boomerang. Iconic vehicles that were stupidly priced, then made an even worse value post merge, and then they removed them. And don’t get me started on how bad the customization is priced
yeah, thats the big ahistorical thing the game needs for balance. its fine overall, as "realism" would require semi autos to very often get jammed (bolties basically never), so the reduced damage nerf is the optimal solution to keep balance and realism of a downside for SAs compared to bolties
Hot take but every rifle caliber gun should be able to knock a player in 1-2 shots regardless of its a bolt action or semi auto, while pistol caliber guns should do the same in 3-4 shots
@@AHappyCub then just go play the game now ? this is how it is right now. rifles and machine guns killing in 1-2 shots, intermediate rounds killing in 2-3 and pistol caliber weapons in 3-4.
In the past damage was based on caliber (ie springfield, garand and BAR dealt the same amount of damage) to promote the use of bolt action rifles they incresed the damage of the bolties
Only cannon power creeps it, speed is better on calliope, armor doesn't matter both get one shotted anyway, Cali can spam it's 75mm with HE and kill even more ppl than T99 ever could so rush point and spam as many rockets + HE shells as possible and die that's how you play it while T99 will struggle to come there as quickly. They could downtier Calliope to BR3 (and Panzerwerfer 42 to BR2) or upgrade it's cannon to 76mm so at least you could have chance to fight against weaker IV German/JP tanks.
How do ş carry account,(i aö so sorry for spammşng but my ps 4 account had assauşt enginers, 75mm acp,silenced mp 40 squads and rocket engineet squads i eant to carry it so bad)
I think these will be very meh Premiums because the T99 is just an M26 with rocket pods on the turrets, and the prototype Ho Ri has less armor, which APCR already destroys the basic one, this one might just require APCBC. Im still planning on getting them since the Pershing is still the best counter to the Konigstiger and Ho-Ri the US have atm so might as well have a second one.
most of those premium squads are something different but interesting, or the same but with some additions to what we have in tech tree. very few premium squads are p2w, most are fine or little bit underpowered
You could sink $10.000 into the game and you still probably wouldn't have everything. The game is a slot machine. Take world of tanks for example. There are more premium tanks than there are normal tanks. And every time they bring out new ones. They make the ones you already paid for look weak. Best most powerful free Abram's tank you can earn has 535 penetration and around the same damage. If you buy a premium tank you can get one with 900 penetration and around 1000 damage. With more armour too. You cant compete with pay to win players and the old premiums are crap by comparison. No one would pay $30 to $70 for one if it wasn't better
The only premium squad I have is the winchester gdr30 it's actually really under rated u get so many recourses that u can bild 2 at cannoons and a machine gun with one guy I killed 111 kills in one game and if u can spam the guns great too
They should make this game more realistic, if I want to play something gimmicky, I’d play the crap Call of Duty pushes out. I refuse to touch another Call of Duty.
I just started playing enlisted, 30 hours. Game is pretty cool for F2P ... tho im in br1 still . But i can imagine like every other f2p game like WOT, WT etc...its pay to win but free to mess around with. I wish was an option to play just with friends
Not really a p2w best guns are from the events only two premium guns are great - MG42 Early and Thompson 50 but the 2nd already got power creeped by Conders and especially event Soviet drum Tommies. Most annoying and on paper p2w are Japanese BR4 paratroopers with 20HP gun shield it should be nerfed to 5HP since they can tank 3x dmg than any soldier if they are lucky when you are aiming as usual at the chest.
You can thank me for complaining about Dicker being at BR4 so they finally moved it to BR3 sadly they don't listen to any other of my complains about many of the squads. There are a lot of premiums than need to go down in BR or get tweaked STG45, Panzerwerfer 42, Kiraly, M10, Kireghoff, Achilles, Fedorov MG (got nerfed and power creeped by RD-44 and Maxim), PPSh-2 (not really problem of a gun but the squad since they are medics and with low ammo count and awful unfinished animations), Calliope now could either go down in BR or get upgraded 76mm cannon, MP18.
Been waiting and hoping for months that Enlisted would get SOME historical cosmetics, instead we got zombies, and it turned me off from Enlisted game forever. Too many other competitors with less-monitzation that have some semblance of historical accuracy, without goofball Call of Duty looking junk. A premium subscription should grant a player access to all items in game to earn. Paying anything more than a couple of bucks for some game characters is laughable.
@@prettyokandy230 imo f2p games don’t really work well in general. The only game that gets f2p really is Warframe. They make money because people choose to spend money on the game, not because they have to. Let be honest, if I’m strictly f2p in a game like war thunder, I’ll NEVER finish that game in under 2000 hours if even. IMO the way to make games like wt and enlisted work is to have people do what games have always done. Buy the game. If you want more content, the devs should release it in paid DLC’s or season pass options or whatever
@ what gaijin does is very predatory. Rope people in with f2p, make them lose hope of ever progressing without paying, they either quit or pay the snail and that’s their business model
It's weird how you do not understand what pay to win means at all. "Oh hey these premium engineers can build structures they shouldn't be able to and in doing so give you an immeasurable advantage, but it's not pay to win it's just 'extra utility'." "Oh hey these radiomen have a semi auto sniper, something they should not be able to have at this BR, but because if you're really bad you'll miss all your shots it's not pay to win it's just 'extra utility'." I am deeply curious what you think pay to win means?
@@cntipede1000 I am curious how many are OP? I am not particularly familiar with enlisted, mainly thinking about getting in to it, but I have already seen a suspiciously large amount of people claiming premiums are not OP when the few that I am aware of absolutely are OP. If you are more familiar with premium squads in general how would you say most are balance wise?
@@jimmydesouza4375I'm not as experienced as this guy but it's just to imagine something costing 50 dollars isn't better than something that's free. My experience is playing against these things as I won't spend that much the vehicles are what gets oppressive. The game is fun though but be prepared to probably want to buy battle pass and premium account. Some people claim to be 100 percent free 2 play and if they are my hats off to them I couldn't do it.
@@jimmydesouza4375 many definitions for op squads, but what defines them the most is usually the weapon. Think about low recoil Thompson with 100 rounds & like the examples in the previous comment. Premium engineers are usually not OP, just very good at supporting task
@@akirasean4080 "Premium engineers are usually not OP, just very good at supporting task." No, they're OP by definition. They have a capability, that you have paid for, that they would not otherwise have without any tradeoff (or meaningful tradeoff). It is not a reliable form of pay to win in the same way having a BFG would be, as the advantage you have paid for will not always come up, but it is still pay to win. Situational P2W can in some ways be worse than just "bigger gun" P2W because bigger gun is consistent so can be balanced more, whereas situational pay to win has to be more oppressive when it is working in order to be worth the purchase for potential customers.
Had no idea I wanted a Churchill III, until I tried fighting one for the first time the other day. Gave my BR II Germans an intense battle. Only once he drove into a hole and couldn’t get out the other side fast enough. Was I able to get behind him quickly for his weak point. The Churchill is what made the match memorable, challenging and fun. And he was chewing me and my team up for awhile. Till those hero game changing clutch plays are made. That keep me coming back to enlisted, even as f2p. I think it’s more sad that they have paid dlc in the first place. Let alone at crazy price points $$$. It may change your gameplay experience for a match. But it doesn’t break the game. You’re probably bad to begin with anyways. Where’s the ranked playlist or clan match leaderboards? Who cares, no one can hear you cry in game anyways. Complainers are what keeps price high. You cry, cope and credit card away your problem predictably. Instead of adapting your COD brain play style or learning to work with your team. Plus I think enlisted is part old geezer simulation, wwII collectibles digital funko man child demographic. Who has nothing else to waste their money on. But it’s f2p if it gives you hundreds of hours of entertainment, I won’t hold it against you if you throw $40 or $30 a year at it. But don’t waste your money guys. There’s no magic squad to buy. Most are old, lame, bugged, super situational, challenging or a chore to use. Paratroopers are cool, not $50 cool lol.
Churchill III is a weaker kv1 though both in armor and gun calibre meaning yeah he's good against br2 but against br 3 and 4 he won't be too good anymore
@@DrFear-ey5wx thank you for the info, there are so many variables to consider. BR performance or life span is an important one for me. As a low BR player who is attempting to plan a smooth transition to retirement in high BR in the near future lol.
I know it is just skill issues. Ive been playing for just 3 months and dont see any issue going against premium squads when u can just basically mow them down with just your regular tech tree squads. Ofcourse it would only require you with just skills and some braincells but overall its just milking your wallet for the sake of "it is a premium squad so its very stronk" mindset. Premium APC squads are worth it I could see myself buying those instead of other premium squads. I dont see a P2W aspect here but skill issue. Just git gud. The only thing i purchased is the extra slots for my factions so i can have perma 5 squads. I wish they add more purchasable slots without having to buy premium just for extra slots. Didnt come here for the discussion but just to watch paradivisions background gameplay
That's the reason why I left enlisted when it had campaign mode it was ridiculously grindy and I had to restart to play another campaign once they announced the merged i came back and its currently the only game.i play everyday 😂
Love this game after a month in and your videos helped me get up the Marshal before the battle pass reset. I do have one question regarding tanks, is it just a gaijin thing for them to get stuck on every stick or do i need to unlock certain perks? I swear, sometimes its so frustrating i could chuck a baby threw a church window its so infuriating! Anyways thanks for the content!!
well done! the tank physics are just bad and not realistic (yet). tanks getting stuck and not being able to drive over tiny things is bad coding, but should be solved within the next year.
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Big butthurt going on atm, caused by the 2 premium tanks spoilered for December. Time to discuss the state of Premium Content in Enlisted and how to improve it 🔥🔥
This video is basically 2 videos in one (general premium discussion & the new pre-order tanks), therefore the length. Understanding the first half helps grasping the power level discussion in the second half, so I combined them together 🧐🧐
Forum Post: forum.enlisted.net/en/t/pre-order-firestorm-tanker-squads/154375
UncleBoomerDivision on Twitter: twitter.com/ParaDivisionYT
0:00 Intro
1:11 The Premium Squad Problem(s)
4:28 What Is A Good Premium Squad?
21:14 Saving Enlisted's Premium Squads
30:25 Rocket Pershing & HoRi - How Good Are They Really?
Enlisted, formerly known as a ww2 game lost it's roadmap and drove off the cliff again. Vodka anyone?
I'm a hardcore Counter Strike player who wanted to play something like a ww shooter fps, and found enlisted on steam last month. I started playing and I'm hooked on it and let me tell you there has been no other game than CS and Souls born games that had me hooked. I haven't spent a penny in the game and don't ever intend to, not gonna buy premium just grind naturally, I have played in total of 35 ish hours in total and on Germany faction I have unlocked most of the things till tier 3, its not that hard to grind, even without paying a penny its a really fun game to play, specially if you are good at fps games, the game mechanics is what matters the most and enlisted has nailed it, the bolt actions feel so satisfying, the mgs are so good to control and so many ways to play the game. I don't even mind having only 3 infantry squads that I get to have each match, it adds to the strategy and what to squads to upgrade.
Play a little bit more.... You won't like it that much. This is not an FPS game. This is a War Thunder "replacement". You will experience it....
how do you like the faster movement speed? i noticed how painfully slow cs2 feels after having touched enlisted
Oh boy I am so sorry for you.
If you spend too much time, Gaijin will consume your soul and you will spend money trust me. You will spend money if you keep playing.
only 35 hours...?
Ah to be so young and innocent of the pain to come...
@@brentonherbert7775 i don't understand the reference can you explain? Is it like the weapons/squad difference in premium and regular too great to have only regular squads in high br? I have all tier 3 squad/weapons pushing tier 4, i don't see any issue for now, plus I'm the type of persons who enjoys have worse weapons than enemy and still beating them, and low tier weapons are so good, I was content with just the kar 98 for riflemen but there's grenade launcher variant, cherry on top, i use carcano scope mount i like sniping in this game, and the ppsh 41 + fnab is enough for my assaulters, even against high br i have had no issue, the german pz iv N is great as well. What exactly is it that changes when you play more?
I own several premium squads. Most of them are weak when compared to maxed out tech tree variants of the same squad. Some premium vehicles are very good and fun but most are garbage. Premium APCs are totally worth it.
Only premium squad(s) i ever bought was the guerilla squads recently. Not being able to change their primary is a downside but thankfully their primaries aren't bad and they look cool. Not game changing in any way but kinda cute and fun to have!
BUT premium APC squads are probably the best bang for your buck for sure!
They monetise the game like they're on the brink of bankruptcy. If they keep it up, they will be. $50+ for a digital thing they have endless copies of is as smooth brain a move as it gets. For that much I should get the asset for use in my own game. Shear volume of sales will make everybody happy but they think whales will keep them afloat. Where is this business school these people are are learning these things? I like the game, it's made by talented people, but it is what it is.
very well said!
Some ways to measure tanks is also important: speed, ability to survive in close area , surprise effect, abilty to supress and ability to generate momentum 😅
All this could have been avoided if they would have released the TT unlocks of this next major update up first. Like we all know for sure that the long awaited MG-42 with the 100 round belt and the Super Pershing is coming in this next major update as hinted by some CMs. The marketing in general needs to be improved a lot.
yes, good idea.
Yep. Actually this was suggested by a few people on the forum as well as Reddit.
Rocket tanks are just a pinata on tracks, anyone can see and hear them especially on the repawn screen, their hands will unconditionally move to the plane with bombs. You have to use it like a drugged Khorne cultist just rush and kill as many people as possible and die in a single hit, it's the same gameplay type as flamethrower tanks.
In still kicking myself for buying the Russian women medic squad, there is only 4 characters!
yeah i warned about that in my russian prem guide. it makes no sense to nerf this squad with -1, especially since medics already are very underpowered. DF should increase it to 5 soldiers.
@@paradivision1362 Then they would have to model another female Soldier, because currently there are only 4 different ones, which are not finished/completed yet. :D
Yeah, having at least an additional one would be great. I also bought them in this last sale despite Para's advice in his guide. I went ahead and wanted to simp when playing my BR 2 Soviet lineup, anyways 🤷 I don't regret it tho. They're quite fast, probably the speediest infantry unit in the game. Excellent for flanking and causing mayhem. These gals can be sneaky. Give the engineer one to equip the big ammo pouch and you can One-man-army (in this case woman lol) throughout the match.
I love that squad their smg is op and fun to use
gramps' pc was STRUGGLING in that rzhev match
I learned my lesson and play on high graphics with 100 fps cap. gives me a constant 95-100 fps now 😂
Time travelling king Tigers to 1942 Rzhev, time and space collision
I use the 105mm tank in BR5 games, its BR3.
Even though you dont really want to engage, low turret speed, and slow movement, gets stuck easy, once you find a good spot you can wreak havoc.
The HE shell will damage most tanks if you have to engage
Great for infantry support taking buildings by shelling windows...If your teammates guard you so much better.
I got stuck in a trench with the 105mm and the enemy thought I was dead, because I was stuck, in a good spot and got 50 kills before they got me.
The Pershing is good in some situations but I think the key in tanks in general is using cover, but the Jumbo is a good all around tank.
I have 1 premium squad that I use a lot and it the Winchester with 4 engineers and a radio.
I have 2 other premium squads I have that are pretty worthless.
Jumbo is terrible can be one taped by a 38mm the Pershing is lovely armour piercing is clutch
If darkflow wants to make money, they should sell pre merge squads for gold. Being able to run multiple heavy tanks or being able to bring 3 flamethrower squads or just having a large variety of specialists would be worth it as long as the price is reasonable
They really just need to increase the amount of vehicles each squad uses. Its ridiculous USA players can only pick one high BR tank to run, and Japs only get one high BR airspawn fighter.
For real
I guess we should add premium tiger tanks and is2 now
I feel that certain squads are strong like paratroopers, rocket tanks, and certain planes othere are just paid cosmetics and guns your stuck with. I just hope not everything is cosmetic and more event squads balance it out
32:48 That made me chuckle too.
The solution of lowering every bad vehicles to br 3 would just create a powercreep situation and it would be terrible for F2P
nope, as lowering them will create squads that are just average-good in 95% cases. power creep can only happen if the lowered squad is better than the best item in the new BR, which happens basically never. there are countless examples, but the flakbus and kv2 would be fun gimmicks but still overall worse than the gold standard tanks in BR3, same thing happened when dicker max got lowered and is still barely played as its just worse than panzer 4 j.
@@paradivision1362Best thing about Dicker Max in low BR is being to use it in Tunisia or Moscow. Specially in their open maps.
The monetization has been soo bad even during the “campaign” era. It’s part of what let to the “almost boycott.
RIP to the OG’s who payed $50 for the P-40, Re.2001, and Churchill..or $40 for the Boomerang.
Iconic vehicles that were stupidly priced, then made an even worse value post merge, and then they removed them.
And don’t get me started on how bad the customization is priced
Churchill is still there but rarely used since it's only pro is their armor but at BR3 Germans have panzerfausts 60 so good luck tanking that.
Semi auto weapons having less damage that bolt action is unrealistic. M1 Garant replaced Springfield because was just straight upgrade.
yeah, thats the big ahistorical thing the game needs for balance. its fine overall, as "realism" would require semi autos to very often get jammed (bolties basically never), so the reduced damage nerf is the optimal solution to keep balance and realism of a downside for SAs compared to bolties
@@paradivision1362 I prefer to have jamming mechanic introduced, and get full damage.
Hot take but every rifle caliber gun should be able to knock a player in 1-2 shots regardless of its a bolt action or semi auto, while pistol caliber guns should do the same in 3-4 shots
@@AHappyCub then just go play the game now ? this is how it is right now. rifles and machine guns killing in 1-2 shots, intermediate rounds killing in 2-3 and pistol caliber weapons in 3-4.
In the past damage was based on caliber (ie springfield, garand and BAR dealt the same amount of damage) to promote the use of bolt action rifles they incresed the damage of the bolties
On the topic of uniforms, the uniform is like half the reason i want the silenced mp40 squad
I don’t like that this power creeps my colliape which is paid for
Only cannon power creeps it, speed is better on calliope, armor doesn't matter both get one shotted anyway, Cali can spam it's 75mm with HE and kill even more ppl than T99 ever could so rush point and spam as many rockets + HE shells as possible and die that's how you play it while T99 will struggle to come there as quickly.
They could downtier Calliope to BR3 (and Panzerwerfer 42 to BR2) or upgrade it's cannon to 76mm so at least you could have chance to fight against weaker IV German/JP tanks.
calliope is BR4, pershings are all BR5 so this tank doesnt interfere with the calliopes power level.
How do ş carry account,(i aö so sorry for spammşng but my ps 4 account had assauşt enginers, 75mm acp,silenced mp 40 squads and rocket engineet squads i eant to carry it so bad)
I don't think you can do it. Sorry man.
I think these will be very meh Premiums because the T99 is just an M26 with rocket pods on the turrets, and the prototype Ho Ri has less armor, which APCR already destroys the basic one, this one might just require APCBC. Im still planning on getting them since the Pershing is still the best counter to the Konigstiger and Ho-Ri the US have atm so might as well have a second one.
most of those premium squads are something different but interesting, or the same but with some additions to what we have in tech tree. very few premium squads are p2w, most are fine or little bit underpowered
Nice gameplay here
You could sink $10.000 into the game and you still probably wouldn't have everything. The game is a slot machine. Take world of tanks for example. There are more premium tanks than there are normal tanks. And every time they bring out new ones. They make the ones you already paid for look weak. Best most powerful free Abram's tank you can earn has 535 penetration and around the same damage. If you buy a premium tank you can get one with 900 penetration and around 1000 damage. With more armour too. You cant compete with pay to win players and the old premiums are crap by comparison. No one would pay $30 to $70 for one if it wasn't better
The only premium squad I have is the winchester gdr30 it's actually really under rated u get so many recourses that u can bild 2 at cannoons and a machine gun with one guy I killed 111 kills in one game and if u can spam the guns great too
“Ooga booga I wanna shoot rockets “😂
Would never use fake tank (Ho Ri) or post war tank (Pershing with rockets)
Let alone pay money for those
i preordered as soon as it was available.
I don’t know i bought the premium jumbo during a sale, it doesn’t perform that well, thought it was indestructible, or idk how would u would use it.
it suffers from being paired against king tigers and panthers, which are capable of penetrating it from the front in its weak spot
@@paradivision1362 You can still take Panther out with your APCR but against KT you can only bail out or die
They should make this game more realistic, if I want to play something gimmicky, I’d play the crap Call of Duty pushes out. I refuse to touch another Call of Duty.
I just started playing enlisted, 30 hours. Game is pretty cool for F2P ... tho im in br1 still . But i can imagine like every other f2p game like WOT, WT etc...its pay to win but free to mess around with. I wish was an option to play just with friends
Not really a p2w best guns are from the events only two premium guns are great - MG42 Early and Thompson 50 but the 2nd already got power creeped by Conders and especially event Soviet drum Tommies. Most annoying and on paper p2w are Japanese BR4 paratroopers with 20HP gun shield it should be nerfed to 5HP since they can tank 3x dmg than any soldier if they are lucky when you are aiming as usual at the chest.
You can thank me for complaining about Dicker being at BR4 so they finally moved it to BR3 sadly they don't listen to any other of my complains about many of the squads. There are a lot of premiums than need to go down in BR or get tweaked STG45, Panzerwerfer 42, Kiraly, M10, Kireghoff, Achilles, Fedorov MG (got nerfed and power creeped by RD-44 and Maxim), PPSh-2 (not really problem of a gun but the squad since they are medics and with low ammo count and awful unfinished animations), Calliope now could either go down in BR or get upgraded 76mm cannon, MP18.
Been waiting and hoping for months that Enlisted would get SOME historical cosmetics, instead we got zombies, and it turned me off from Enlisted game forever. Too many other competitors with less-monitzation that have some semblance of historical accuracy, without goofball Call of Duty looking junk.
A premium subscription should grant a player access to all items in game to earn. Paying anything more than a couple of bucks for some game characters is laughable.
Just have F2P queue separately from Premium players
you just removed insentive to buy premium.... if everbody is premium noone is
@ not really cause it’d kinda function like DLC content at that point
No offence but why would a F2P game EVER do that? "If you're not paying you're the product"...
@@prettyokandy230 imo f2p games don’t really work well in general. The only game that gets f2p really is Warframe. They make money because people choose to spend money on the game, not because they have to. Let be honest, if I’m strictly f2p in a game like war thunder, I’ll NEVER finish that game in under 2000 hours if even. IMO the way to make games like wt and enlisted work is to have people do what games have always done. Buy the game. If you want more content, the devs should release it in paid DLC’s or season pass options or whatever
@ what gaijin does is very predatory. Rope people in with f2p, make them lose hope of ever progressing without paying, they either quit or pay the snail and that’s their business model
It's weird how you do not understand what pay to win means at all. "Oh hey these premium engineers can build structures they shouldn't be able to and in doing so give you an immeasurable advantage, but it's not pay to win it's just 'extra utility'." "Oh hey these radiomen have a semi auto sniper, something they should not be able to have at this BR, but because if you're really bad you'll miss all your shots it's not pay to win it's just 'extra utility'."
I am deeply curious what you think pay to win means?
It's just him coping a ton of the squads are overpowered it's not balanced by the fact a few are bad.
@@cntipede1000 I am curious how many are OP? I am not particularly familiar with enlisted, mainly thinking about getting in to it, but I have already seen a suspiciously large amount of people claiming premiums are not OP when the few that I am aware of absolutely are OP.
If you are more familiar with premium squads in general how would you say most are balance wise?
@@jimmydesouza4375I'm not as experienced as this guy but it's just to imagine something costing 50 dollars isn't better than something that's free. My experience is playing against these things as I won't spend that much the vehicles are what gets oppressive. The game is fun though but be prepared to probably want to buy battle pass and premium account. Some people claim to be 100 percent free 2 play and if they are my hats off to them I couldn't do it.
@@jimmydesouza4375 many definitions for op squads, but what defines them the most is usually the weapon. Think about low recoil Thompson with 100 rounds & like the examples in the previous comment. Premium engineers are usually not OP, just very good at supporting task
@@akirasean4080 "Premium engineers are usually not OP, just very good at supporting task."
No, they're OP by definition. They have a capability, that you have paid for, that they would not otherwise have without any tradeoff (or meaningful tradeoff). It is not a reliable form of pay to win in the same way having a BFG would be, as the advantage you have paid for will not always come up, but it is still pay to win.
Situational P2W can in some ways be worse than just "bigger gun" P2W because bigger gun is consistent so can be balanced more, whereas situational pay to win has to be more oppressive when it is working in order to be worth the purchase for potential customers.
Again there are WW2 games that dont do this type of monetisation and are still succesfull in their respected FPS fields
Had no idea I wanted a Churchill III, until I tried fighting one for the first time the other day. Gave my BR II Germans an intense battle. Only once he drove into a hole and couldn’t get out the other side fast enough. Was I able to get behind him quickly for his weak point.
The Churchill is what made the match memorable, challenging and fun. And he was chewing me and my team up for awhile. Till those hero game changing clutch plays are made. That keep me coming back to enlisted, even as f2p. I think it’s more sad that they have paid dlc in the first place. Let alone at crazy price points $$$. It may change your gameplay experience for a match. But it doesn’t break the game. You’re probably bad to begin with anyways. Where’s the ranked playlist or clan match leaderboards? Who cares, no one can hear you cry in game anyways. Complainers are what keeps price high. You cry, cope and credit card away your problem predictably. Instead of adapting your COD brain play style or learning to work with your team.
Plus I think enlisted is part old geezer simulation, wwII collectibles digital funko man child demographic. Who has nothing else to waste their money on.
But it’s f2p if it gives you hundreds of hours of entertainment, I won’t hold it against you if you throw $40 or $30 a year at it. But don’t waste your money guys. There’s no magic squad to buy. Most are old, lame, bugged, super situational, challenging or a chore to use. Paratroopers are cool, not $50 cool lol.
Churchill III is a weaker kv1 though both in armor and gun calibre meaning yeah he's good against br2 but against br 3 and 4 he won't be too good anymore
Well said 👌
@@DrFear-ey5wx thank you for the info, there are so many variables to consider. BR performance or life span is an important one for me. As a low BR player who is attempting to plan a smooth transition to retirement in high BR in the near future lol.
They need to keep the gold order system...
I know it is just skill issues. Ive been playing for just 3 months and dont see any issue going against premium squads when u can just basically mow them down with just your regular tech tree squads. Ofcourse it would only require you with just skills and some braincells but overall its just milking your wallet for the sake of "it is a premium squad so its very stronk" mindset. Premium APC squads are worth it I could see myself buying those instead of other premium squads. I dont see a P2W aspect here but skill issue. Just git gud. The only thing i purchased is the extra slots for my factions so i can have perma 5 squads. I wish they add more purchasable slots without having to buy premium just for extra slots. Didnt come here for the discussion but just to watch paradivisions background gameplay
Well it’s definitely faster than grinding in warthunder
Explain yourself lol 26:45
That's the reason why I left enlisted when it had campaign mode it was ridiculously grindy and I had to restart to play another campaign once they announced the merged i came back and its currently the only game.i play everyday 😂
Love this game after a month in and your videos helped me get up the Marshal before the battle pass reset. I do have one question regarding tanks, is it just a gaijin thing for them to get stuck on every stick or do i need to unlock certain perks? I swear, sometimes its so frustrating i could chuck a baby threw a church window its so infuriating! Anyways thanks for the content!!
well done! the tank physics are just bad and not realistic (yet). tanks getting stuck and not being able to drive over tiny things is bad coding, but should be solved within the next year.